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Dodgers 2012 Minor League Countdown: 140 - 131

No, not that Pedro Guerrero!

No, not that Pedro Guerrero!

The next part of my series takes a look at another interesting set of players. We've moved past most of the no-name DSL players, and in this group in particular we are looking at several guys from the US based rookie leagues. All of these players appear to have some upside, but are still along ways off from being legitimate prospects. Hopefully some of them will take big steps forward in 2012.

140. Matthew Laney, LHP (24.1 IP in Arz Rookie Lg in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers in July 2011 as a non drafted free agent
6’4”, 235 lbs, 23.5 years old
2-0, 0.74 ERA, 0.90 WHIP, 2.46 FIP, 8.88 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

Matthew Laney was one of 8 non-drafted free agent pitchers to sign with the Dodgers during 2011. He started his college career at Miami Dade Community College and was selected by the Phillies in the 42nd round of the 2009 draft, but he instead decided to attend Coastal Carolina. Laney spent two years with the Chanticleers and posted decent stats as he had an ERA around 4.25 and struck out a batter per inning, but after his senior year in 2011 he didn’t get drafted. Shortly after he signed with the Dodgers, he said “It was very stressful in wanting to continue my dream to play pro ball. After the draft, there was nothing to lose pretty much, so I signed as a free agent; and I’m going to pitch as well as I can and see if I can continue to play for a couple of years.” Matthew joined the Arizona Dodgers in mid July and became one of their best bullpen arms. Laney actually didn’t allow an earned run until his last appearance of the season, and overall he threw 24.1 frames while allowing just 12 hits. The 6'4" lefty throws in the low 90's and while he was one of the older players in the Arizona Rookie League, his stats are hard to ignore. Given his age and success in 2011, I would guess that Laney will get a chance to play with the Loons in 2012. While non-drafted pitchers don’t usually have much of an impact, maybe he’ll buck the trend and turn out to be a decent find for the Dodgers.

139. Andrew Edge, C (41 games in Pioneer Rookie Lg in 2011)

Drafted by Dodgers 2010, 24th round
6’2”, 230 lbs, 24.25 years old, bats right handed
.253 average, .831 OPS, 8 HR’s, 28 RBI’s, 1 SB
Pre 2011 Rank: 137; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

Andrew Edge was selected by the Dodgers in the 24th round of the 2010 draft out of Jacksonville State, and he was ready to sign right away. Upon getting drafted, he said “I was just hoping to get picked up by anybody. I’m actually happy with the Dodgers. I like the team and hopefully I can work hard and make my way up there. They told me to enjoy it right now. I’m kind of on cloud nine and waiting to see what I need to do.” While at Jacksonville State, the catcher had a very good senior season as he hit .330 with 11 homers and 64 RBI’s. Edge made his professional debut with the Arizona Dodgers, but after a hot start he slumped to end the season. After getting promoted to Ogden in 2011, Edge followed similar path as he was killing the ball through the month of July – hitting .316 with 6 homers and an OPS over 1.000, but he again hit the skids as the season came to a close and ended the year with an average of .253. In addition, he incredibly struck out in almost half of his plate appearances while with the Raptors (48.2%), which lead to an amazing batting average for ball in play of .464. In terms of his defense, Andrew has done a solid job thus far as he’s thrown out 42% of would be base-stealers so far in his professional career and has a decent fielding % of .972. Looking ahead to 2012, it’s going to be tough for Edge to play in a full season league given his terrible contact rate, but he’ll probably get the chance to hold down the backup role with the Loons given his age, power, and defensive abilities.

Follow the jump for #'s 138 - 131

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138. Giordanny Chavez, RHP (47.2 IP in DSL in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers 1/29/09
6’3”, 185 lbs, 20.75 years old
3-4, 3.78 ERA, 1.38 WHIP, 3.56 FIP, 5.48 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: 110; Pre 2010 Rank: 139; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

After a terrible debut in the DSL in 2009 (6.38 ERA in 18.1 innings), Giordanny Chavez had quite a turnaround in 2010 as he recorded a 1.85 ERA over 68 innings. However his peripherals didn’t really compliment his ERA because the Dominican native had a FIP of 3.73 and he only struck out 6.22 per 9 innings, so it’s no surprise that he came back down to earth in 2011. In his 3rd season with the Dominican Dodgers Chavez had a 3.78 ERA and continued to post a low strikeout rate. His did have a decent WHIP, however, and his FIP remained pretty steady at 3.58. In addition, Chavez has a good pitchers’ frame at 6’3” and is still relatively young at 20 years old, so I think he’ll get promoted to the Arizona Rookie League for the 2012 season where he still could turn into a legitimate Dodger prospect.

137. Kevin Taylor, 2B (2 games in Arz Rookie Lg in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2011, 36th round
6’0”, 200 lbs, 20.5 years old, bats left handed
.000 average, .168 OPS, 0 HR’s, 0 RBI’s, 0 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

Kevin Taylor played his college ball at Western Nevada Community College, and was in the same league as Bryce Harper in 2010 when both freshmen were named to the Scenic West Athletic Conference All-Region 18 First Team. While Harper went on to become the #1 pick of the 2010 draft, Taylor decided to stay one more season at Western Nevada and the Dodgers picked Taylor in the 36th round of the 2011 draft. He initially turned down a Dodger offer as Campbellsville University announced that he would attend their school in the fall. At that point, the Campbellsville baseball coach said “We are really excited to sign Kevin…Offensively, Kevin is a pure hitter who can hit with power to all fields and defensively, he could play all nine positions. He can run the bases as well." It turned out that Taylor did sign with the Dodgers at the deadline, but because he inked his deal so late he only played in two games in the Arizona Rookie League last season. In college Kevin hit for a solid average and drove in a lot of runs, but based on his stats he seemed to have more gap power rather than raw power. Overall I think Taylor was a solid late sign for the Dodgers, and it will be interesting to see how he does in 2012. My guess is that because he played two years of college ball – not to mention in a wood bat conference – that he’ll get an opportunity to spend next season with the Raptors in the Pioneer League.

136. Chris Handke, RHP (25.2 IP in Pioneer Rookie Lg in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2009, 41st round
6’11”, 235 lbs, 24 years old
0-1, 6.66 ERA, 1.99 WHIP, 6.36 FIP, 9.47 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: 135; Pre 2010 Rank: 154; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

I’ve written about Chris Handke’s interesting background before, but I figure it’s worth mentioning again. Prior to signing with the Dodgers, the giant pitcher was actually a much better basketball player at Cornell College, averaging 9.8 points per game and setting the single season record for blocks with 45 during the 2008-2009 season. In addition, Handke had a 3.92 GPA while majoring in Biochemistry and Molecular Biology. And by the way, his career pitching stats at Cornell looked like this: 0-1, 10.12 ERA, 25 walks, and 11 strikeouts in 21.1 innings. So needless to say it was a bit of a surprise when he signed with the Dodgers, although he was influenced by the fact that the Dodgers allowed him to finish his degree in the offseason. Handke only got into two games in his professional debut because an injury shut him down, and then in 2010 he threw pretty well over 22.1 innings for the Arizona Dodgers despite being extremely wild. In 2011, Chris was promoted to the Pioneer League where he was supposed to be in Ogden’s rotation, but he continued to struggle with his control so he only made 4 starts before moving to the bullpen. Handke walked 29 in just 25.2 innings and posted a devilish ERA. That being said, he didn’t allow many hits and had a strong strikeout rate so his season wasn’t a complete failure. Overall, tall pitchers are historically late bloomers, but now at 24 years old Handke is running out of time to impress. Give his age he really needs to play in a full season league next year, so his performance in spring training will be extremely important.

135. Pedro Guerrero, 2B/3B/SS (39 games in HiA in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers 7/10/06
6’3”, 185 lbs, 23.25 years old, bats right handed
.274 average, .704 OPS, 0 HR’s, 4 RBI’s, 2 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: 99; Pre 2010 Rank: 92; Pre 2009 Rank: 67

Pedro Guerrero was signed out of the Dominican Republic in 2006 and played two seasons in the Dominican Summer League before making his U.S. debut in 2008. He produced average numbers in the rookie leagues during his first two years in America, and then Guerrero was promoted to LoA for the start of the 2010 season. Unfortunately he struggled so badly with the Loons that he was sent back to extended spring training in May before finishing the year in Ogden. In 2011 Guerrero received a surprise promotion to the Quakes, but he was used very sparingly and was actually taken off the roster several times during the season to make room for other players. When he was on Rancho’s active roster he was used in a utility role as he split his time between shortstop, 2nd base, and 3rd base. At the plate he had a mediocre season, but his sample size was very small and he didn’t show any speed or power. Overall, I had considered Guerrero a fringe prospect in the past, but he's shown very little offensive ability over the last few seasons and he now appears to be more of an organizational player. He’ll probably reprise his role as a Quakes utility infielder in 2012.

134. Yimy Rodriguez, RHP (44.1 IP in Pioneer Rookie Lg in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2010, 27th round
6’2”, 215 lbs, 24.5 years old
3-3, 4.06 ERA, 1.35 WHIP, 3.63 FIP, 8.73 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: 139; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

When Yimy Rodriguez was selected by the Dodgers out of Peru St. College (Nebraska) in the 27th round of the 2010 draft, he became the first player from school to make it to the professional ranks. After the draft, PSC President Dan Hanson said, “This is a great day for Yimy and Peru State College baseball. In addition to making Peru State history, Yimy’s baseball success will undoubtedly inspire legions of young athletes from the area long into the future. I congratulate Yimy on his amazing accomplishment and the Dodgers on a great new recruit.” At Peru, Yimy had a 3.83 ERA as a junior and a 4.52 ERA as a senior. After spending his professional debut in the Arizona Rookie League, Yimy played for the Raptors in 2011 and was the team’s token long reliever. Rodriguez accumulated 44.1 frames in just 16 appearances and posted an ERA of 4.06. His peripherals were slightly better, however, as he struck out almost a batter per inning and had a FIP of 3.63. In terms of his stuff, I read somewhere that Rodriguez does have a strong fastball, but outside of that I’m not sure what his repertoire consists of. At 24 years old Yimy will definitely move to a full season league in 2012, and it will probably be the defining year of his professional career.

133. Bryant Hernandez, SS/2B (5 games in AAA, 58 games in LoA, 19 games in Arz Rookie Lg in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2009, 9th round
5’8”, 170 lbs, 24 years old, bats right handed
.235 average, .658 OPS, 4 HR’s, 29 RBI’s, 6 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: 105; Pre 2010 Rank: 84; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

The Dodgers first noticed Bryant Hernandez when they were scouting his University of Oklahoma teammate J.T. Wise, who ended up getting selected four rounds earlier than Hernandez in the 2009 draft. While Bryant is listed at just 5’8” and 170 pounds, in his junior season at Oklahoma he batted .351, hit 12 HR’s, and tied Wise for the team lead with 62 RBI’s. He was also a finalist for the Brooks Wallace Award, presented to the nation's top shortstop. After the draft, Logan White said that Hernandez “is a kid that had good numbers, could hit in the middle of the night, could play short or second and he's a sure-handed fielder with some pop in his bat.” After a mediocre debut in the Arizona Rookie League in 2009, Bryant split the 2010 season between LoA and HiA but had a terrible time at the plate as he hit a combined .179 with a .524 OPS. In 2011 Hernandez returned to the Midwest League where he was used as a backup middle infielder, but he again struggled mightily and was sent back down to the Arizona Rookie League at the end of July. A strong month in Arizona got him a surprise promotion to AAA for 5 games, but that was more out of necessity for Albuquerque who was short on infielders as their season came to a close. Overall, Hernandez and his .228 career batting average will probably never make it to the big leagues, but he can help the Dodgers as an organizational player over the next few years. In 2012 I predict that Hernandez will spend the year in Rancho Cucamonga where he’ll again serve as a backup middle infielder. Finally, here are a couple videos of Bryant; one of him taking some batting practice, and one of some game action where he hit a walk off single.

132. Moises Tamarez, RHP (18 IP in DSL in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers in 2009
6’3”, 195 lbs, 20 years old
0-0, 2.00 ERA, 1.00 WHIP, 4.14 FIP, 5.00 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank; 104; Pre 2010 Rank: 87; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

2011 was an odd year for Moises Tamarez. In his 3rd season in the DSL Tamarez posted by far the best ERA of his career, but he was limited to just 18 innings after hurling a combined 75.2 frames over the previous two years. It didn’t appear that his limited use was due to injury, however, since his 8 appearances were spread all throughout the season. Whatever the case, Moises had more than just a solid ERA in 2011 as his batting average against was .185. In fact, he only allowed 1 hit to left handed batters all year long. The one negative about his game, however, is that despite his solid pitching frame Tamarez continues to record very low strikeout numbers and his career K/9 is only 4.6. Overall, Moises is still very young as he won’t turn 20 years old until this upcoming March, but with 3 years and almost 100 innings of experience I believe he’ll get promoted to the Arizona Rookie League in 2012.

131. Bret Montgomery, RHP (4.2 IP in HiA, 90 IP in LoA in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2010, 46th round
6’6”, 250 lbs, 26.5 years old
7-1, 2.66 ERA, 1.08 WHIP, 2.29 FIP, 8.46 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: 143; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

Bret Montgomery is a local boy who was the Dodgers 46th round pick in 2010. He was born in Thousand Oaks, and played his college ball at Cal State Dominguez Hills. During his 3 seasons with the Toros, Montgomery had a cumulative 2.95 ERA in 36 appearances, amassed 191 strikeouts, and threw a no hitter against Cal State LA in February of 2010. After getting drafted, Bret said “I am more relieved than anything that I can keep playing baseball. Overall I am very happy that it is with the Dodgers, after idolizing their players and always watching them as a kid it is a dream come true but it was also great being a Toro for three years and I will definitely keep track of our guys.” Upon signing, Montgomery spent most of his professional debut with the Ogden Raptors, and while his ERA was 4.99, he had a solid strikeout to walk ratio and an excellent FIP of 2.49. Here is some footage of him throwing for Ogden. Montgomery was promoted to Great Lakes in 2011 and had an outstanding season for the Loons. In 90 innings “Monty” posted a 2.60 ERA and led the club with his 1.07 WHIP and 2.09 FIP. He worked mostly in middle relief and was probably the team’s most valuable bullpen arm since he remained in Great Lakes for almost the entire season. At the end of August he did get moved up to HiA where he appeared in two games and allowed just 2 hits over 4.2 innings. Overall, Montgomery is obviously quite old to be playing in class A, but he does have some value given his outstanding control and ability to keep the ball in the park. He throws in the low 90’s and possesses a good slider, and while it is very unlikely that he’ll ever play in the big leagues he should continue to be a solid organizational guy that could make his way all the way up to AAA in the next year or two.

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Good morning TBLA fam
yo Joe

:)

What’s up Tommy!!! How ya feeling?

better than yesterday

Sleeping problems suck

Sorry to hear that…..I had to take a tylenol PM myself last night

thanks, but it's no big thing

Slept fine last night, thankfully

sleeping problems? You need a prescription to weed.

I’ve watched Weeds, it does tend to put you to sleep.

it's like you are every single bro that I went to high school with

amazing.

That brings back memories. They always showed the Cobra guys either parachuting out or coming safely out of the water. A death-free war cartoon if you will.

haha yeah

When I saw Duke get stabbed with a snake on the movie it blew my young mind.

Back when it was ok to make a cartoon about international terrorists.

How naive we were . . .

Well I don’t know about you, but I totally knew that two twins who feel each other’s pain, a guy with a form fitting metal mask that moved with his facial expressions and mouth movements, a snake dude cloned from the DNA of tyranical dead guys (plus they threw Geronimo in there?), a swamp hillbilly who’s skin changes color, and everyone’s standard military issued rifles shooting lasers instead of rounds was a bunch of hooey.

They were the only action figures I ever owned and I was only vaguely aware there was something “military” about them. The swivel-arm grip was a big deal at the time. Also, the female one had a snug suit.

But Sgt. Slaughter was real!

That might’ve been the Jump the Shark moment for the franchise.

His toy came with a friggin’ baton.

Destro was pretty cool. Snake Eyes too. There was also this real big jet.

I had the SR-71 blackbird with the piggy back drone on it. It was badass. They also put out a 7’ long aircraft carrier toy. That was kinda cray cray.

loved GI Joes

Loved going into Toys R US and just seeing a whole isle full of GI Joes. I regret giving mine away.

No way.

This was the “jump the shark” moment.

http://www.yojoe.com/action/86/fridge.shtml

we still make video games about killing russians, nazis, cubans, vietnamese, japanese, w/e. Maybe that’s different since you have to buy the game and know the story ahead of time?

Well now there are game rating systems where it can be indicated that a game is for the older set. Hasbro made the cartoon and marketed the toys to young kids. Was just a different world. Also, as kinbote mentioned, Scarlett had a snug suit. And Lady Jaye was butch. And a friend of mine disassembled a handful of guys into their individual parts, used some model paint, and created his own Jack Burton custom GI Joe figure.

the toy came first, n’est ce pas?

The old school 12" ones yeah, the 80’s smaller figures were a different animal entirely. They made a frickin’ Refrigerator Perry doll.

the six inch “action figure” may be toykind’s biggest contribution to mankind

For sure. Then you get asshole’s like Vince McMahon who put out rubber guys with no articulating joints whatsoever.

gotta have that GI Joe, kung fu grip

Did they patent that? Cause nobody really aped it for their guys.

He-man: G.I. Joe::Activision: Atari

I loved when He Man would use the exact same mold for figures. Slap some smelly felt on Beast Man, presto! New villain!

massive fail

“Intellivision” not “Activision”

I knew what you were talking about.

This is high stakes stuff we’re discussing here.

“Beee Seventeen Boooooooomberrrrr”

yes

thanks for the subject header.

did not realize how big scans of patents are : )

I read patents as panties. Rough morning.

panty raid on TBLA!

95% of wrestling action figures suck

But the old WCW ones from the late 90s and the WWF ones from the early 2000s kick ass. I’ll never forget how much fun I had back then, lol.

Do you know how much unfun a Mouth of the South rubber figure holding a microphone that doesn’t bend at all is?

That sounds awful

The best ones were the stings, goldbergs, and a few other random ones. I had some that were fully able to move and actually do their moves, rather than the last decade of wwf toys that can barely move their legs and shit.

Pedro Guerrero's

position should have been listed as: hitter.

Mammoth of a man!

The worst 3b I’ve ever seen. A Five Tool tool at the position.

The story about how Pedro was thinking, “don’t hit the ball to me, don’t hit the ball to Sax either” is one of my all time favorites. More than any made up or true Rickey Henderson story.

I stood next to him in an elevator once.

He was huge

Watching super star Chris Paul is fun compared to tentative Chris Paul.

Were you at the game?

Great game to watch last night, regardless of rooting interest. 10 lead changes in the fourth quarter alone, and that’s before considering watching how great Paul was in the third quarter alone.

Heat have to be really pissed to lose back to back OT games.

LeBron did not seem to care much based on his quote.

"We defended and gave ourselves a chance to win, and that’s all you can ask for," James said. "So we can be satisfied. I mean, you don’t like to lose, but we’re not going to hang our heads about this one."

Yup its 1 regular season game. No biggie

Ofcourse the Heat dont care lol, thats like game 11 or so of 66…. at this point for Miami, its all about the playoffs. What they do in the playoffs is all that matters.

Honey Badger don’t care, he gets bit by a cobra, just sleeps it off

who eats larva?

That is so nasty

look at him, gettin all stung, honey badger don’t care

these birds are like

Thanks for the treat stupid.

Honey Badger’s like “hey get back here”

Maybe that’s why he couldn’t tackle for crap in the championship game.

Making a habit of playing shitty in the 4th quarter might be something that a team with World Champion aspirations might b concerned with.

They had no excuse to lose last night.

They lost to the Warriors the night before giving up a 17 point second half lead.

Those are things I might be concerned about. Not like they have a history of closing games, might be something they want to work on.

Also, LeBron was 9 for 17 at the free throw line, including 2 for 4 in the final 20 seconds of regulation.

can I get a binky

For baby BronBron?

Remember how Miami struggled last year, lost like 7 in a row or whatever it was, people made fun of them crying or whatever? Then they went to game 7 of the NBA Finals…. Miami is just fine…. I wish they werent, but they are… its all about staying healthy heading into the playoffs. Flip the Switch.

They wish they played in a Game 7

oh, was it game 6? lol

I stopped watching after Lakers got whipped. haha

Why was the MIA coach so pissed?

I had the sound turned down (thanks to Mike Smith), but from what I could tell maybe he thought the refs should’ve called a foul to stop the clock when Paul passed to Jordan? I thought the MIA coach was about to cry.

They were trying to foul and it wasn’t called

always amusing when a coach argues for a foul on their team

I liked Clipper Steve's opinion on that

I’m not clear on exactly why Spoelstra freaked out at the end. It seems as if they were trying to give a foul and he thought the refs should have called it. But (a) I watched the replay a bunch, and there certainly weren’t any blatant fouls and (b) why the histrionics? It’s not as if you were going to win that game anyway Eric. So they call a foul and put Chauncey Billups or Chris Paul on the line in that situation. It’s still game over.

Nah, it was the play before that set him off when Battier clocked Griffin and they did not call the foul. The CLippers got the inbound play and no one wanted to foul the best foul shooter in the NBA.

I thought they did call the Battier foul, it just wasn’t a shooting foul??

They called a foul. Clips weren’t in the bonus yet.

They should have just fouled Chauncey immediately and hoped for the best. They got cute and tried to foul anybody but Chauncey which ended with Deandre Jordan dunking and essentially ending the game.

Right. They weren’t in the bonus so what Phil says doesn’t make sense.

Live basketball without announcers can be confusing. Sorry about that.

Oh, then I was simply confused. It was kind of hectic.

Big game for the Clippers this weekend vs Lakers. Early season bragging rights at least. Who you picking?

Clips will win. They will have the energy and Lakers will be on second of back-to-back.

it’s just Cleveland on Friday :)

Who knows Kobe could go for 50.

Having Evans gobble up every rebound will certainly help, Bynum will need to get Jordon into foul trouble early. Gasol does a good job on Griffin who seems to have real problems with power forwards with length.

That said if Wednesday night Chris Paul shows up, the Clipps win, to many horses if he is on his game.

If Bynum’s offense doesnt show back up by saturday, then yeah Lakers will lose. Why can Bynum barely dunk? instead of boxing classes he needs jumping classes.

You try dragging Walton and Lanier up and down the court for 48 minutes and see if you could dunk.

I dont know if he just isnt atheltic enough, or its a footwork thing… maybe Shaq can train him…. there are just plays it just seems like he should go up with more power and dunk that shit, instead of this finesse crap.

If he doesn’t listen to Kareem, he’s going to rebel against Shaq.

Kareem is a dick, Shaq is cool, I think Shaq would work. But he is having too much fun at TNT right now.

Bynum kills Deandre Jordan historically. Bynum’s breakout game was against DJ. Jordan started because Randolph, Camby and Kaman were all hurt. Ah, the good old days.

Jordan killed Bynum in preseason though haha… guess thats just preseason.

not quite

Bynum averaged 20.5 points, 11.5 rebounds, and 2 blocks in the 2 preseason games, and shot 61.5%

Jordan averaged 10.0 points, 6.5 boards, 3.5 blocks

hmmm, I guess all I can remember from the postseason is that sic ass jam Jordan did, on Bynum I think, or whoever it was… Why cant Bynum dunk like that??? haha

Guess how many people in the NBA have more dunks than Bynum this year

based on the question I’m saying 3

haha fuck it Eric, let me think what I want to think man…. who cares if im wrong haha…. ok who? Jordan, Griffin, and Howard?

Bynum has 14 dunks (in 8 games), tied with Jordan and three others for 9th in the NBA.

JaVale McGee leads with 23.

I thought Jordan retired

No, he was just suspended for gambling

I’m guessing Kaman is not in the top 100 and that some point guards have more dunks then he does.

DJ’s breakout game was also against the Lakers, it just so happened that while he was scoring his 23 on on 11 of 12 (97%), Bynum went for 42.

Right. I remember the slobber fest on CN the next day (trade Kaman immediately!) Nobody realized he gave it all back on the other end.

whatever, I love our Jordan

I’ve come around to liking Jordan.

I said he’d be hard pressed to compete in the 4th quarter during the early schedule. Lakers are playing a tough schedule and he didn’t have four games.

After careful consideration, I pick….the Clippers

madeleine and I are going to a bar to watch the game, if you and Phil or anyone else would like to come. Lakers fans included.

Thanks for the invite. I’m actually going to be out of town, might miss the game altogether.

I'll text you

(if the Lakers are winning)

I’m sure Miami rather not lose, but pissed about losing 2 regular season games? I dont think so…. I bet LeBron, Wade, and Bosh are all laughing about it right now while their smoking a big fat blunt of California’s finest.

Whatever, I’d be pissed in a pickup game if I missed that many free throws and the game went into overtime.

I’m sure Miami will be fine; it is just immensely fun watching them lose because normally teams wait until winning a championship before having their parade.

I agree with that

Unless something has changed, Bret Montgomery relies heavily on his splitter, not a slider. His splitter in college was one of the better pitches in the conference.

Wouldn’t professional instruction count as something that has changed?

from the man himself

http://www.vcstar.com/news/2011/aug/20/montgomerys-relief-is-award-worthy/

maybe he still has his splitter too, he just didn’t mention it

Never

thought I’d see the Ventura County Star sourced on here. Piece of shit newspaper, but I guess it does have its redeeming qualities.

Aren’t they part of the Daily News network? Along with the San Bernardino Sun, et al. I often see articles of DN reporters (for Dodger coverage, for instance) in these other papers as well

Cool. I remember scouting him when he was in college and my scouting report was “good fastball in the high 80s, very good splitter, slider could be good but needs fine tuning”

Man, now Pacqiao’s team saying May 5th date doesnt make economic sense because some 45,000 area in Vegas wont be ready…wtf? I never heard about that..where is this arena and why was it never mentioned before?? .. go fight at the UNLV arena then….stop the excuses!

Boxing is dead; it just doesn’t know it.

Friday Night Fights on ESPN2 are fun

The original line substituted “tennis” for “boxing.”

That’s stupid, you would make it all back in PPV buys. Cinco de Mayo is an enormous night for boxing.

exactly Mike, Arum is getting ridiculous now. I guess he even tried to make a comment the other day that Mayweather already has a deal with Robert Guerrero, so Manny cant fight him. Now today comes out that Guerrero is not a possible opponent for Mayweather…. I say Fuck Bob Arum, he can kiss our asses, and Manny should man up and make this happen. Manny should say I want Mayweather, and only Mayweather, no matter where it is, just make the fight happen. Stop being Arum’s little bitch.

The whole fight doesn’t make economic sense because they can make nearly the same amount of money while fighting much less risky opponents.

Gotta give the fans what they want to see…. and I realize they are in this business to make money, but I would think they also have pride and want to fight and beat the best…. I disagree a little about they make the same… they make alot of money fighting lessor opponents true, but they’d make a good amount more then usual with this fight… but maybe not.

Also im done ordering Pacquiao or Mayweather fight til they fight eachother… actually I may be done altogether with ordering PPV anyways, but I wouldnt pay to see Pacqiao fight Marquez a 4th time, and all the other options are a joke IMO…. I wouldnt pay to see Mayweather beat the shit out of Canelo either, though I know alot of Mexicans will….. The options that are left out there for these guys to fight other then eachother is nil, the options suck, and arent worth paying to watch IMO.

I admit, I will pay to see Mayweather beat the shit out of Canelo.

Vogelsong

Giants signed Ryan Vogelsong going in to his third and last year of arbitration to one of “those” two year deals where the team buys out only the first year (club option for 2nd) of free agency. Here’s hoping the Dodgers don’t do the same with Loney.

He’ll be their #4 starter. The Vogelsong/Harang match-ups will be scintillating.

they are good comps

Last two seasons.

Vogelsong vs Harang
K/9: 6.99 vs 6.60
BB/9: 3.14 vs 3.03
GB/FB: 1.34 vs 0.96 << not a match here though

Dodgers Hand Cardinals a Handke, Sweep NLDS Again

dude is 6’11 235? If he isn’t throwing 94+, he’s doing something wrong. Yeah, like big men shooting free throws, control is something that takes awhile to develop, but their stuff tends to be better. Ala Randy Johnson (i’m not saying all tall guys are Randy Johnson).

No, but in my mind they all should be. Like how could Mark Hendrickson only top out at 90? Those arms should be like bullwhips by nature?

Because Mark Hendrickson sucks.

Yet don’t most tall pitchers not throw very hard. Randy seems to be the exception. The norm seems to be
Chris Young
Hendrickson

A quick look at baseball ref shows only Randy and JR Richard among 15 pitchers > 80 inches who have pitched at least 200 major league innings who I’d consider hard throwers.

Rk Player SO Ht IP
1 Randy Johnson 4875 82 4135.1
2 Jeff Nelson 829 80 784.2
3 Mike Smithson 731 80 1356.1
4 Chris Young 675 82 775.2
5 Mark Hendrickson 666 81 1169.0
6 Jon Rauch 418 82 520.2
7 Chris Volstad 378 80 584.0
8 Jeff Niemann 375 81 506.1
9 Billy Taylor 307 80 324.2
10 Graeme Lloyd 304 80 533.0
11 Kameron Loe 287 80 474.0
12 Lee Guetterman 287 80 658.1
13 Doug Fister 275 80 448.1
14 Kyle Snyder 157 80 237.2
15 Eric Hillman 96 82 232.0

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Jeff Nelson and Jon Rauch threw hard.

If a Jeff Nelson 90 MPH fastball is throwing hard then OK
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1092&position=P

That damn funky delivery coming from the side always makes it seem harder

That data starts in 2002, when Nelson was already 36 years old. He threw 95-96 for the Yankees.

Throwing as hard as he can!

My assumption: more time as kids spent playing basketball instead of baseball.

I like the narrative, even if it’s not based on fact.

My assumption is despite what one may expect by looking at someone physically, there’s no correlation between height and velocity.

Oswalt and Peavy give each other a fist bump

I think Tim hudson is like, 5’11

Lincecum is roughtly the size of Dennis Kucinich

Oswalt falls down and grabs his back, Peavey tears his labrum.

tears his labrum while snapping an ankle

Mark Prior hears the news and falls down the stairs.

but his landing is softened by Clint Barmes’s deer meat

I will always rec any Rockies deer meat reference

suppose there is a level of athleticism that is required for someone that big to be coordinated enough to throw hard.

uhhhh…Jansen? Really? Bueller?

Brackman, even tho hes never really done anything. That guy throws hard

how tall is he?

6’6 possibly 6’7

never had a chance to stay at catcher

certainly counts as tall. Hell I consider anyone 6’4 or taller to be “tall”.

Listed as 6’5" by the Dodgers FWIW

I think one of his baseball cards listed him at 6’3", but he is a mountain in person. I would have guessed about 6’6" or 6’7".

Yeah everything I’ve checked says 6’5

maybe there is a spectrum whereby 6’3-6’6 or so helps with velocity but anything taller makes it difficult to generate leverage in time. Who knows.

I’d think this is true, to much leg, not a good thing.

I stood next to him and hes literally a foot taller than me and im about 5’6ish

My guess is that you are 5’5" then :)

are you built like a brickhouse?

Im actually pretty wide ;)

I’m envisioning short and thick and strong as an ox

This is getting weird

Honestly - how could anyone think Hubie Brown doesn't know every

rule, and everything else about NBA basketball.

Unlike baseball where the mute button is on my friend on National Telecasts, I love listening to Hubie and Shulman. In fact I’m not sure there is a NBA broadcast team I don’t like. Ex coach’s are great, even the ex players are decent, and they always get a solid professional play by play man.

Hubie Brown appears to not know the goaltending rule. He was saying it wasn’t a goaltend because it didn’t look like it was going off the board or through the hoop. But it doesn’t matter if you think it was going to go in or not — it was going down off a shot.
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Should have been a goaltend.
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by fbihop on Jan 11, 2012 10:43 PM PST reply actions

I was watching the Prime Ticket broadcast, but I thought that play was close. Could have gone either way, but I didn’t definitely see the ball going down.

As Mike Smith brought up, fuck it, Lebron travelled and the game should have been over anyway.

maybe it was just his crab dribble

I am a Hubie fan as well

When he was explaining his reasoning for the no goaltending, it was understandable. He’s looking at the replay to first see if it went off the board (automatic goaltending) and yeah, not every ball on its way down is goaltending if the ref doesn’t think it has a chance of going in (nobody calls goaltend when a short shot/pass is caught before but above the rim but had no trajectory possible that would have made it.

As long as you don't have to look at him

He’s starting to go Al Davis on us.

Either he was explaining it really badly or he didn’t know the rule. So either way he screwed up.

He’s no NFL ref. /josie

An NBA color commentator is paid solely for explaining things in a concise fashion, though.

If everyone is referring to that jump hook by Bosh

that was blocked by Jordan late in the game, Hubie could simply have been poorly explaining (by omission) that it was such a line drive of a shot that it wasn’t really going downward by the time DJ blocked it.

The strangest play last nigh was the Wade missed dunk where he hung on the rim and then the ball went in

I thought the rule was not that it has to look like it will go in, but that it looks like it will draw iron.

Gary

Sent you a mail

Why dont you text message him…. im sure you got his number

Domincan questions...

They run a separate spring training in the Dominican Republic for Dodger players there, correct?

Players picked from the Dominican League team to play with the rookie ball team in Arizona, do they go immediately to extended spring training, or just arrive when the rookie season starts?

They have a Dominican Academy of sorts

which is where they hold their own version of a spring training. I’m sure it starts later since the DSL season doesn’t start until the end of May.

For international players that are picked to play in the Arz Rookie League for the upcoming season, I would guess they get to come to the regular spring training at the same time as all the other minor league players who are going to play in US based leagues

Thanks Brandon!

2013 BCS Championship Odds

LSU 7/2
Alabama 5/1
Oklahoma 8/1
Oregon 8/1
USC 8/1
Georgia 12/1
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Stanford 100/1
UC Berkeley 200/1
Arizona 200/1
UCLA 200/1
Wash St 200/1
Utah 200/1
ASU 200/1

Can’t believe you left out Wisconsin

They actually came within three plays of having an undefeated season.

Ball will be balling in 2013

If you saw Wisconsin, you’ve said it all

60/1 odds for them (Gambling odds, NSFW)

Losing a quarterback always hurts

Must be some other sucky baseball prospect who has finally realized he can’t hit a curve ball and is ready for the easier sport:)

Peter Vecsey in the NY Post:

Sources say the Lakers offered Pau Gasol to the T’Wolves for Kevin Love after the league canceled the Chris Paul trade. Wouldn’t you?

No idea if it was one for one or not, but it sounds like it since it never got off the ground.

Hell yes I would have tried to do that, if I were the Lakers.

If the Lakers could someone turn Gasol and something into Love and Rubio, it would not shock me since it is the Lakers. That would be a fun team to watch.

I don’t know much about basketball but isn’t K-Love a beast?

This seems like offering A-Rod for Evan Longoria.

No, more like Zimmerman for Longoria

ha, i was just typing “it’s like David Wright for Sandoval”.

Can we please play “Who is the Kevin Love of MLB?”

Id say votto but he already won mvp.. and maybe Im just making that connection because he’s white.

I’d try to find a player who:
1. Fills up the stat sheet
2. Plays for one of the worse teams in baseball
3. Is still < 25

so, Tim Lincecum.

I was surprised at how well Love shoots the three. Can he play PF/C (both) positions easily?

I’d say PF only

Little undersized for C, though it would be an interesting one since on offense he tends to play away from the basket more than most big men, which may well wreak havoc on the other teams defense (forcing the defending C out of position).

yeah I heard about this awhile ago…. maybe they were hoping Wolves wanted to team Gasol up with Rubio.

I'm guessing the only reason this was discussed

is because there have been reports that the T’Wolves might not want to lock him up long term.

I wonder if Lakers could get Andre Miller from Denver.

Please do this, so I can whatever Laker thread I currently have

so you can what?

cut

not sure there is a player in the NBA I dislike more then Andre Miller. Based on how many teams he’s been bouncing around with since his Cleveland days GM’s must agree.

Not sure how that old POS is an upgrade over Blake.

i think you a word

Feels like every NBA team has 2 or 3 PGs that are better then any 1 PG we have, how can it be hard to get a good PG up in here dammit, fuck.

mlbtraderumors top ten remaining FAs

•Prince Fielder
•Edwin Jackson
•Hiroki Kuroda
•Carlos Pena
•Roy Oswalt
•Javier Vazquez
•Bartolo Colon
•Jeff Francis
•Casey Kotchman
•Johnny Damon
•Honorable mentions – Joe Saunders and Yoenis Cespedes

Still four solid pitchers

As a NL GM I would rather sign Vazquez to a one year deal then EJ to a five year deal.

If Vasquez insists on playing for the East Coast like he usually does is there anywhere left for him to go? Maybe the Nats if they miss out on Prince?

I was thinking the Nat’s.

But why wouldn’t the Marlins simply ante up for him? They are only treading water if they simply replace him with Buehle. The dude was just about the best right handed NL pitcher in the 2nd half last year and has a history of simply being above average in the NL.

Don’t the Marlins already have a full rotation? Johnson, Buerhle, Zambrano, Nolasco. I know I am missing someone.

Anibal. At this point I would have a problem kicking Nolasco out and getting what you can from a team that believes his ERA will ever meet his peripherals.

Wouldn’t.

Thought you were going there.

He’s the anti sleeper. Everyone knows about him so he gets drafted way too early and then sucks.

Yeah, that is probably the right move. Sign Vazquez and trade Nolasco for something.

Your counting on Zambrano?

Your counting on Zambrano?

To fill a back of the rotation spot, sure, why not.

I think a change of scenery will be huge for him.

Plus, even though we don’t know yet, but isn’t the thinking that the Marlins new park is going to play as a pitcher’s park?

How many of them are Boras guys? all of them?

Fielder, Jackson, Pena, Damon for sure

I'd really like to see Vazquez play at least another year

He’s been a favorite of mine for a long, long time.

He can choke on Phil Rivers’ breakfast

highest OPS+ from someone < 25 years old in 2011 was …………………(100 games minimum)

so doesnt have to be a dodger then? well shit that could be anyone…. If Reg doesnt know it, then im going to guess nobody does.

I don’t know anything if I can’t look it up.

Mike Morse (or is he 26?)

’86 Topps, ugliest cards of all time?

Lance Berkman is no spring chicken

How dare you.

I always though 1987 Topps were uglier. I enjoy them for nostalgia though.

The 1986 Topps were quite plain, I’ll give you that.

I liked the wood look. And the colorful ‘Future Stars’ flourish. And I loved the photo they chose for McGwire, just his back in his stance.
I had it in for dark borders, could never keep them from flaking.

I agree, I liked the 87 better than 86

I didn’t like the design in 1988 much, or 1989 for that matter, but since the 1989 set had the World Series winning Dodgers in it I gave it a pass :)

The Bowman reissues can f off. Try to make me buy new pages for my binder.

Not baseball, but the initial Hoops set were ugly as hell. The Skybox original set were really pretty.

Agreed

I hate any card that isn’t standard sized

I remember thinking 89 was very “modern”. Like it was ushering in the new era of cards. Then those 89 Upper Decks came out and I was like whoaa

13 year old me was sure I was gonna retire on my stash of a dozen Griffey Jr. Upper Decks.

That was the biggest prize back then. Way more valuable than real money.

Lance Berkman is no spring chicken

Do they still sell sports cards? I miss collecting cards… is it like 20 bucks a pack now?

Yes.
Depends.

Luke Scott got $6 million guaranteed from Tampa, per Marc Topkin. Scott gets $5 million in 2012, and a $6 million club option in 2013 with a $1 million buyout.

x

Player OPS+ G Year Age PA HR BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS Pos
Pablo Sandoval 153 117 2011 24 466 23 32 63 .315 .357 .552 .909 *5/3D
Alex Avila 143 141 2011 24 551 19 73 131 .295 .389 .506 .895 *2/D5
Mike Stanton 141 150 2011 21 601 34 70 166 .262 .356 .537 .893 *9/8D
Justin Upton 141 159 2011 23 674 31 59 126 .289 .369 .529 .898 *9
Evan Longoria 139 133 2011 25 574 31 80 93 .244 .355 .495 .850 *5/D
Lucas Duda 136 100 2011 25 347 10 33 57 .292 .370 .482 .852 39/7D
Andrew McCutchen 127 158 2011 24 678 23 89 126 .259 .364 .456 .820 *8/D
Carlos Gonzalez 126 127 2011 25 542 26 48 105 .295 .363 .526 .889 798
Billy Butler 125 159 2011 25 673 19 66 95 .291 .361 .461 .822 *D3
Carlos Santana 124 155 2011 25 658 27 97 133 .239 .351 .457 .808 *23/D
Asdrubal Cabrera 119 151 2011 25 667 25 44 119 .273 .332 .460 .792 *6
Jay Bruce 119 157 2011 24 664 32 71 158 .256 .341 .474 .814 *9
Freddie Freeman 118 157 2011 21 635 21 53 142 .282 .346 .448 .795 *3
Eric Hosmer 118 128 2011 21 563 19 34 82 .293 .334 .465 .799 *3
Logan Morrison 116 123 2011 23 525 23 54 99 .247 .330 .468 .797 *7/D3
Peter Bourjos 115 147 2011 24 552 12 32 124 .271 .327 .438 .765 *8
Adam Jones 114 151 2011 25 618 25 29 113 .280 .319 .466 .785 *8/D
Gerardo Parra 113 141 2011 24 493 8 43 82 .292 .357 .427 .784 *79/8
Wilson Ramos 113 113 2011 23 435 15 38 76 .267 .334 .445 .779 *2/D
Mark Trumbo 113 149 2011 25 573 29 25 120 .254 .291 .477 .768 *39/7
Matt Wieters 113 139 2011 25 551 22 48 84 .262 .328 .450 .778 *2/D3
Starlin Castro 111 158 2011 21 715 10 35 96 .307 .341 .432 .773 *6
Dexter Fowler 105 125 2011 25 563 5 68 130 .266 .363 .432 .796 *8
Neil Walker 105 159 2011 25 662 12 54 112 .273 .334 .408 .742 *4
Justin Smoak 104 123 2011 24 489 15 55 105 .234 .323 .396 .719 *3D
Player OPS+ G Year Age PA HR BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS Pos
Cameron Maybin 103 137 2011 24 568 9 44 125 .264 .323 .393 .716 *8
Danny Espinosa 102 158 2011 24 658 21 57 166 .236 .323 .414 .737 *4

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So maybe Alex Avila is really the most valuable young player in baseball? (Yes I know Avila had lower WAR due to negative D values, but still he is a CATCHER)

If he can repeat that succes, sure, but I would not bet on it. Smelled fluke to me.

.366 babip seems high

HEY XEI WHATS HIS X-BABIP

2.834

wtf does that even mean

Anything over .350 is gonna come down unless you’re one of the great contact hitters in the league.

Anything over .370 is better than Rod Carew in his prime.

Here is the

online calculator. Someone feel free to plug in the numbers and report back to the group on their findings. Two page double spaced report would be fine.

I tried a spreadsheet one

and got 2.834. I don’t think thats right

Avila has already been sprinkled with Tommy Lasorda godfather fairy dust. He’s legit

He needs to do that again.

He was nowhere to be found in the postseason.

didn’t he have a busted shoulder?

and bad knees

and his B12 shots stopped helping

is there a way

to get access to fbihops playlist?

1) Drive to Albuquerque
2) Have awesome chili, perhaps a burger too

3) enjoy lower gravity environment

4) buy meth

two comments today pushing drugs

We’re gonna get raided soon

and then we’ll be pushing daisies

damn right

The fuzz ain’t taking me alive. Not going back to prison.

I still like the Onion blurb

“At-At Walker first place cops looked for hidden drugs”

weed isnt a drug… its a plant, a plant that if you just so happen to set on fire, causes side effects.

Opium is also a plant.

what does his name mean anyways? does he work for FBI? or IHOP? been wondering for awhile now…. maybe he is an undercover FBI agent at IHOP… sweet!

he’s a news reporter in ABQ

I should put it on dropbox. First I need to get a dropbox account.

FYI

Mike MOrse is 29

Might be the Casey Blake of this decade.

I NEVER would have guessed he was that old

He was a SS with the Mariners a long time ago.

Strange but true

Danny Tartabull used to play 2b for the Mariners

Jimmy Wynn came up as a SS for the Colt 45’s.

True story

I saw Danny Tartabull on an episode of Seinfeld something like that 5-7 years ago, and I thought he was a made up player just for the show. Then a few years ago when I was searching through stats and saw his name I laughed quite a bit.

That’s why Van Slyke needs a chance!

Loney’s blocking him!

power is so difficult to predict, i’ve come to a “i’ll believe it when i see it” with power prospects. Speed and pitching are much more fun for me at this point.

I don’t really see him as a power prospect. If we’re lucky he’ll be a cheaper right handed Loney

It’s great being the Pirates

it’s kind of strange not wanting us to spend 160-180mil, but not being happy with the constraints of a 120mil payroll either.

I’d be very happy with a 120 Million if I was the one who created it:)

I’d be happy with the 120mil payroll if 22 of it wasn’t going to non-Dodgers.

I was going to say Van Slyke could be our Lucas Duda but facts kept getting in the way.
1. He has yet to play AAA, in 2010 Duda destroyed the International League
2. He’s already 25 so even if he somehow busts out in 2012 at 26 he’s already above the cut
3. He’s right handed, for some reason I can buy into a 26 year old left handed first baseman, but not a 26 year old right handed 1st baseman who has never played above AA ball.

SVS played in AAA

Just not very much

38 plate appearances does not count diddly doo

It’s still not “never”

are you playing the irritating Nolander role today since he’s taking the day off playing video games?

am I being that irritating?

Because I’m not trying to be

I’m pretty sure a 1.000 OPS in the IL translates to like a 1.450 OPS in the PCL.

Duda also started his career 1 for 37 so the odds of the Dodgers giving that guy a chance are near zero.

Yeah, it was an impressive season in 2010.

He’d still be buried if not for the Ike Davis injury

They should give him a parade.

Zippety

Yes, around the Camptown race track.

At this point, I don’t really care about the age that much other than looking back in historical context. Seems like he will get a shot soon and he’s either going to hit or he’s not.

I am with this line of thinking. Age is good for context but I don’t like writing someone off just because they happen to be 25 or 26. It seems like he is pretty close, so let’s see if he pans out.

He’s struggled the first year at every level. I don’t see the Dodgers being patient enough to deal with his struggles. I can’t ignore age, what is the big deal about a 25 year old destroying AA?

Our LFs suck

Do they – why would anyone think Van Slyke has a better future then Jerry Sands?

Left Field Depth Chart:
Juan Rivera
Jerry Sands
Tony Gwynn Junior
Trent Aussie
Alfredo Silverio
Scott Van Slyke
Alex Castle

Or I should say if his upside is cheap cost controlled version of James Loney, that is not going to help the Dodgers win any games unless he’s the 2006/2007/Aug 2011 model.

Why do say that? If SVS could put up Loney-like numbers and Sands could be a decent option in the OF, it would free up considerable resources to spend on a FA. Only problem is next year’s FAs suck.

Guess I’m not much of a believer that a lousy first baseman no matter how cheap can get you a World Championship, though the Rays and Rangers gave it a good shot.

Agree. not without elite rotations and/or offensive position players elsewhere

Well he did destroy it harder than any other 25 year old.

But you regress his BABIP to .350 he’s down to .263/.349/.510 which puts him in the company of Ryan Flaherty, Matt Rizzotti and Earnesto Meija.

What was his LD%?

18 with the caveats of minor league spotters.

No one can BABIP .405.

Actually that’s generous he’s more of a Cody Overbeck, Christian Marrerro, Tyler Kuhn kinda guy.

yeah, the only thing age means is he’ll be 31 when he gets through arbitration years, so we’ll have him for much less time and he won’t be the next great anything

Not sure how age cannot be relevant.

How many good major league hitters repeated A, A+, and AA, and then became productive major league hitters? Sometimes they get stuck at AAA due to blockage but repeating these leagues means one thing, they sucked the first time.

It is apparently not relevant when it fits your narrative :)

always have to consider the narrative

The narrative narrative is gaining traction. Where’s D. Young when you need him?

Weren’t you the same person who was arguing for and compiling lists of all the late bloomers? Or was that meercat?

Yes, late bloomers exist, the Blake’s and Berroa’s have made their mark.

I’m not arguing that Van Slyke cannot put up Loney’s numbers, my point is this team needs more than the having the worst offensive 1st baseman playing for us to compete in the post season.

Well that is probably true but is a total divergence from how this thread started.

True,

Until Scott Van SLyke proves to me he can hit I’m an unbeliever. I don’t like multiple level repeaters before AAA. If he ends up being able to hit left hand pitching at a decent clip I would not be surprised, if he proves capable of hitting right hand major league pitching enough to stay in a lineup on an every day basis I will be shocked beyond belief.

Right, my original comment was we"ll be lucky if he is a cheaper right-handed Loney. I guess he could also play OF and be a utility-type if he can hit at all.

I wish he was left handed like his father.

I wish he was left handed like his father.

I did this when Scott Van Slykes’ biggest fan was around.

In the last 20 years there’s four types of players who can start a big league career at age 26 and be successful

A) Scrappy dudes (Eckstein is the best example here)
B) Japanese players
C) Drug Addicts
D) Dan Uggla

There’s a decent group of dudes that put together a couple good years and dissapared (Termel Sledge, Chris Singleton) but corner guys that don’t even touch the bigs until 26 pan out maybe once a decade.

you forgot the biggest group, catchers

Even then that’s only three guys in the last 20 years (Lo Duca, Ruiz, Damien Miller) unless we’re counting Paul Bako and Matt Treanor.

SVS looks just like Uggla

Besides his age 26 season will be in AAA, isn’t the real question what kind of players start their major league career at age 27:)

Wasn’t last year his age 24 season? He’s 25 going into this year I think

He’s the youngest 25 possible in baseball years.

Good thing age is not relevant

Not really answering your post, but I distinctly remember having these age discussions regarding Dee Gordon last year around this time. Many were saying he was too old for the leagues he played in. Grant it, he still has a ways to go to cement himself, but right now he seems to have worked out.

That would be incorrect, Dee Gordon is and has been at his age level since he was drafted.

He might be thinking Sands?

OK, sorry. I guess the contention was that he would be 24 or so by the time he reached the bigs, which for some reason was too old. Obviously he made it sooner than that.

Morosi tweets

“at the moment” Dodgers are not involved in Fielder sweepstakes. Thank you Jon.

“A source familiar with negotiations says there are no negotiations”

I’ll be honest, I know he is not going to be our 1B on OD, but I am going to be a bit deflated when he actually signs with someone.

Nats/Royals 2014 WS will be awesome!

I’m waiting for Withrow to be too old for his league in 2015 and finally dominate

skippers are a different animal

I predict Withrow will come up by June this year and do really well in the 5th spot in the rotation, and he forces Rubby to the bullpen for the rest of the year
Obviously when Rubby gets back.

Is he going to replace Billingsley?

Harang starts out 10-1 at the break, gets traded to DET with Eovaldi for Castellanos :)

If Harang starts out 10 – 1aren’t we the guys trading our prospects for a post season charge?

nah, we’ll have Lilly and Capuano at 2-8 each

10-1?

We have a great offense :)

Have to account for injuries

Just gotta hope it’s not Kershaw or Billingsley (his big year WILL happen in 2012).

Rubby won’t be back until at least July, and he was slotted to start in the bullpen at that point anyway.

If he starts a game for the Dodgers before Sept it will be a surprise

Shouldn’t we be more excited about Albert Silverio?

Anyway the highlight from the HQ scouting report is the main concern about Van Slyke:

Van Slyke had a nice breakout in ’11. Worked to shorten swing with good results. Moderate plate discipline suggests some ability to hit for average. Not a liability on defense. Potential opening at 1B gives him a window, but will need to seize it quickly. RH/1B only players are a dime a dozen, so power will need to be plus and might fall short.

He can't play the OF at the major league level?

He’s played hundreds of minor league games in the OF. Hard to believe he couldn’t play LF.

I’m sure Edgar Martinez played a lot of 3B in the minors.

The hit tool was strong with that one.

His minor league numbers are not real impressive actually.

I've always been told they DHd him because of injury concerns

Also, Mike Blowers was better defensively. If you figure they wanted their two bats in the lineup, you put the better glove on the field. I think at that point, he just kinda got stuck there.

Hard to picture anyone whose so bad on defense that Mike Blowers is an upgrade.

1996

I wonder if we’d be satisfied if Uribe put up Blowers’ line with us: .265/.341/.394

That .341 looks awfully high :)

OPS+ed 100. I think that was what we were hoping for from Uribe, but weighted a little more to SLUG.

Since when do the Dodgers value power at the 1B position?

Bud Selig was at Camelback Ranch when Dave & I were there

From March 20:

Selig has said he plans to retire after 2012, when his current term expires. But he also said that he would retire after 2009 as well, and Selig’s still here, so it’s understandable that not everyone believes Selig will be gone so soon. “[The owners] don’t believe I will be gone, but I really do believe it,” Selig said.

MLB just announced that Selig has signed an extension through 2014.

He’s sticking around simply to hand his hand picked Dodger owner the World Championship Trophy

I wonder if he feels he has to be around for the restructuring of the divisions/schedules and revised playoffs. Hard to just hand that off.

He probably loves his job, why retire, isn’t this a great gig?

Also, $22 million a year ain’t bad

He’s the Mark Teixeira of commissioners.

Sooner or later, don’t you want to spend a few of the accumulated millions in the time that remains to you? If you’re just earning it to pass it on, maybe not.

Lil Wayne always said, too much money aint enough money.

Lil Wayne also said he has money so old, its growing white hair…. that must be awesome to have money that old!

He also said the feds is watching….N*** what money?

Thats what im saying, he gets over 20 mil a year, use of a private jet, im sure MLB pays for all his hotel stays and food and anything he does right? Yeah I wouldnt retire either

The elbow patches on his jackets don’t pay for themselves!

Probably gets a massive haircut allowance too, which he has obviously pocketed.

A cross between Bill Gates and Smithers.

It pays well too.

By that logic

there will always be something going on that requires the attention of the commisioners office.

The Owners must love him, Selig really turned shit around after the strike.

but seriously, fuck Bud Selig

consider that the value of the Dodgers franchise alone has tripled in 7 years.

Still think Paul Giamatti should be commissioner. Thomas Hayden Church would be in charge of the ostrich races.

Another Big Fat Liar as commissioner makes sense.

Frankie Muniz will not stand for this

How could you tell if he is standing?

“It’s a little early in the morning for that . . .”

1st round of NBA allstar votes have C-Bynum, F- Durant, Griffin, G- Bryant, Paul in the lead…. I assume this would be 1st time ever 2 Lakers and 2 Clippers started in an Allstar game? If it holds up ofcourse….. Too bad this wasnt last year with ASG in LA.

This would be the first time a Clipper (let alone two) started in an all star game

really? man I didnt know that….I guess Danny Manning didnt start then, who have they had in an ASG?

Griffin and Kaman the past two years. Before that, Brand.

Elton Brand, Blake Griffin last year… Was ’Nique an All-Star that one year? Terry Cummings or somebody like that?

Bob Macadoo wasnt an allstar? I see he was an MVP as a Clipper.

Buffalo Braves

haha yeah I just realized that… crazy.

Buffalo Brave, I believe, who became Clippers later.

We’re pushing it now. That’s Buffalo

well, wikipedia still counts it on their LA Clipper page…. we count out Minneapolis titles, so guys can have that.

What you mean “we,” white man?

Entire franchise All-Star list

LA
Blake Griffin 2011
Chris Kaman 2010
Elton Brand 2006
Elton Brand 2002
Danny Manning 1993,1994
Marques Johnson 1986
Norm Nixon 1985

SD
World B. Free 1980

Buffalo
Randy Smith 1976, 1978
Bob McAdoo 1974, 1975, 1976
Bob Kauffman 1971, 1972, 1973

Starters in bold

holy shit, so there really was a guy named World B Free? Was it Artest’s dad? So what Artest did is really nothing original then.

This is the first you’ve heard of World B. Free?

I believe so to be honest… sounds like a NYC street court legend or something. What was his name before that?

Lloyd

A spiritual descendant of Carrie A. Nation.

World B. Lloyd

World B was the shits

Chan Ho Park’s favorite player.

Pretty much

He got his name from his days in Brooklyn, where a friend nicknamed him “World” because of his 44-inch vertical leaps and 360-degree dunks. He was known for taking high-risk shots and playing flamboyantly

-Wikipedia

World B. Free 1980.. seriou..

oh never mind

It’s pretty rare that the Clippers have even had All-Stars selected. Definitely a high point in Clippers stardom.

just saw a couple of Shakin tweets in MLBTR

Brewers offered Fielder a one year deal, but Boras didn’t bite on it. Also McCourt laughed off interest in Prince saying “we’re not gonna talk about that.”

I wouldn’t take a one year deal either but I really wanna see Prince return and cram it up the Cardinals cram holes

I would, other then the injury problem, kind of the best of both worlds.

Brewers with Prince still a good bet to get to World Series

Dodgers next year might have a new owner who wants to make an impact after finishing in last place.

That’s a good thought.

I'd bet Phil the usual

that the Dodgers don’t finish in last place.

You’d have to give me 10 – 1 odds

Love Prince, love his swing and I personally think hes not that bad on defense

Hes had some a couple meh seasons( I would take them 7 days a week) If he has one of the those season.. his value is fucked

Prince is on the every other year plan too. he alternates between a .850 OPS and a 1.000 OPS

are he and Kemp in synch or out of synch? Would it be better to be in synch and have one massive year from the two or out of synch so that at least one is hitting on all cylinders?

they are N*Sync

i’d rather have them all be in sync.

If they’re out of sync we win 84 games a year instead of 81.

If they’re in sync you can an absolutely filthy team every other year.

If they’re *NSYNC, then we might win 98º games.

And come October, we’d all be in O Town.

Does that make Sandusky one of the Backstree Boys?

Unless he gets it 2Ge+her, he’ll be a New Kid on the (Cell) Block.

If they are out of sync, we’ll just be Another Bad Creation.

NL Central

would be amazing if Prince signed with the Brewers. STL, CIN, MIL would be quite a fight for first.

I’m not on the Red bandwagon. Not sure why anyone is. Latos is going to change them for a .500 team to a postseason contender?

Votto doesn’t have the pressure of Alonso breathing down his neck and can finally break out of his shell :)

Latos, Marshall, Madson

One of the best bullpens in MLB now plus Latos kicks a crappy pitcher out of their rotation. Using last years win totals as a baseline is not the way to go. Better to just start from scratch with this years team and use your method of choice to come up with a over/under win number. My sim is at 87+ for them as is.

They really need a shortstop for me to get behind them. That whole left side of the field could be real bad.

Cozart

Hopefully his shoulder is healthy. Fine SS youngster.

Then your sim is broken

Actually 87 seems right, that is still not a postseason record. Cardinals will still win by five games.

yes, Cardinals are 5 or more wins better – depending on health. 87+ is the best 2nd place record in my 2012 seasonal sims in the NL. In reality some team outperforms their true talent level and wins more, but that is unpredictable shit.

I guess the Braun 50 game suspension has something to do with this?

I haven’t heard anything more on that — has anything happened with Braun?

appealing still

Meh. Matt Kemp is more appealing.

’twas a close shave.

Yeah, that is still a big unknown as is who Fielder signs with. My numbers are fluid. I am on revision #16 with all the signings and trades. Dodgers are slowly slipping… now below XX wins.

Man I’m down on the team but I still think they won’t lose 140.

Just eyeballing, i’d put the Nat’s in the wild card hunt if they sign Prince. Course I’d say the same if we signed him, or the Rockies, or the Giants, or the Braves, or the Marlins

I like the get of Marshal, not sold on the rotation, Latos will have to step up big which he could do for me to believe they can compete for the postseason but have to admit I forgot about the Braun suspension.

they were good last season IMO. just a bit of bad luck, maybe some Dusty Baker mixed in

I like the term “cram holes”

"cram it up your cram hole La Fleur"

McCourt is playing coy, a deal must imminent!

There’s a lot of chatter today.

Funny, delias man texted me saying the same thing

Did he blink demurely, look down and drag his heels along the ground?
NBA trivia

name the last Clipper to start an All-Star Game

Nobody

I didn’t say LA Clipper

Columbus Clipper Phil Hughes

He did say

NBA trivia
though

BTW, last = only in this case

If #139 makes it

Eric will be ceaseless with the U2 puns. If only we had a Bono in the system too.

We have a Clayton.

Their rhythm section is kind of generic. Our Clayton is not.

Atlanta’s Rhythm Section is pretty good.

Spooky good.

The Boys from Doraville, I’ll drink (champange) to that.

Reminder

please put subjects with pictures (or massive, take up the whole screen posts)

Not going to post the pics but the Giants are going back to a 1980s road alternate in 2012. Has piping down the center.

Kinda like the Colorado ones (assuming the COLO is on the right and the RADO is on the left and not with the O patch split like it is in the pic). Don’t like just the logo on left breast, especially when it’s the Gnats logo.

Yankees, Tigers?

Never cared for those. The Yankees pinstripes are pretty classic though.

When I was a little kid, I liked the Detroit one. This would be the McLain, Lolich days. The waning of Al Kaline. Willie Horton the baseball player, not the ex-con.

Al Kaline was my Dad’s favorite player growing up

My dad’s favorite kind of battery.

That’s pretty good.

two road greys? That’s just silly

Eric Gordon hurt again
Kaman being Kaman
Aminu proving Michael White right this time
Timberwolves look like they have a the making of a team who won’t be a top five lottery pick

Chris Paul

Thank You

Eric Gordon hurt again
Kaman being Kaman
Aminu proving Michael White right this time
Timberwolves look like they have a the making of a team who won’t be a top five lottery pick

Chris Paul

Thank You David Stern

FTFY

Minnesota in bottom 5 now. tied for 4th worst record… its only been 10 games, cant jump to conclusions…. besides, Paul is the other knee away from being brandon roy.

Is that your expert medical opinion doctor?

it’s not a laker, so he’s doomed.

Is that what he has? Paul had the same surgery to his knee Roy did, except Roy had it in both knees and thats why he is retired? Thats what ive read experts say… ok, not experts, the media

Roy had it multiple times

CP3 will be fine

I still find it funny that when Paul was going to be a Laker it was all Championship talk and no mention of the knee. The day he becomes a Clipper, Josie and world start talking about his knee as though he DID NOT play the whole season last year.

I disagee it was all Championship talk….it was all Championship talk because people assumed Howard would be coming too.

I heard some concern from Laker fans

and I am a DR thank you…. Hello my name is Dr Green Thumb.

You run that “hydroponics” place on Chatsworth?

haha, no, the one next to the fish store right? I always wonder about that place… does it really sell enough equipment to stay open? How many people buy that stuff? but I guess so, thats why its still open.

it’s a front :)

growing weed at home supports many a hydroponic business in the valley

And the Westside. And the OC. I would have added the IE and the High Desert, but there is stiff competition with the “cooking utensil” businesses there.

psst. it’s everywhere.

(and you can put your WEED in there)

They look like a team who will get better as the season progresses. I’m saying that as someone who has not seen them play but anytime you stick in a new PG who has skills I think it takes time to jell.

Aminu is doing well or poorly?

Single digit PER, FTW!

I don’t know what that means. Sounds bad.

It’s a small sample size, but ya, that sucks.

PER is a Hollinger stat, Hollinger doesnt know shit haha…. im jk.

Eating Red Robin for lunch

next step is deciding what burger

royal red robin burger

There’s really no debate.

Should just leave and pick up a couple

of Der Wiernerschinizel Chili Dogs

chili dogs are a buck right now

go for glory

anyone buying $1 chilli dogs pretty much deserves to spend the day on the crapper

Im actually on a diet

been eating nothing but homemade Turkey meatballs, grilled chicken and pounding V8 fruit juices

trying to add weight?

Or just stand upright.

just sounds like a shitton of protein.

it is

but I am actually burning calories and expelling energy.. something I haven’t done in about 8 years

no, I have actually lost 10 pounds since doing it. My blood pressure is completely fucked and im 24, so its now or never.

I like to walk at night but its freezing outside

congrats buddy! Keep up the good work

do you not like vegetables?

not trying to be a dick, sincerely asking

no worries

because you’re right

so that's a no on veggies

protein is good for you, though I’d suggest you mix in some sort of cardio or exercise…and maybe try to force down certain vegetables. they will speed up the process.

I walk at night usually

and stair step/bike in the mourning

I need to find something that I can eat.. is spinach okay? I actually love that stuff

didn't you watch popeye as a kid?

I mean’t cooked sorry

cooked, sure, cooked with cream or something rich in fat, not so much. :)

Salads using spinach are good.

spinach is very high in calcium and protein. It’s like the champion of veggies.

well I’m gonna veg it up then

and iron

don’t forget iron.

FWIW my mom got her blood pressure down 10 points by doing 45 minutes of zumba 3 times a week. not saying you should do zumba, but that the results are going to be there if you just keep going. good luck :)

iron is the one i was looking for, thank you. spinch and mushroom omelettes (egg whites if you want to be super healthy) in the morning are awesome.

I make good eggs, thank god because I wouldn’t eat breakfast other wise.

Mrs Dash is starting to piss me off tho

breakfast is important! yay for breakfast!

you could always just get some kosher salt, some pepper, and some other dried spices and go KABAM

Whether or not the salt is kosher, doesn’t it have the same negative effects regarding hypertension (high blood pressure)?

My blood pressure went from 142/103

to 125/78 in three weeks, simply by cutting out coffee, red meat, and high sodium meals. Then going to smaller portions of the main dish and adding fruits and veggies to each meal. The fruits and veggies I consume now are raisins and bananas with cereal for breakfast (raisin bran), kiwi fruit and navel oranges throughout the day, and a daily salad of baby spinach leaves with cashews, defrosted blueberries, and orange bell peppers (w/raspberry parmesan dressing or bruschetta sauce). Drinking a lot of tangerine juice as well, instead of diet soda.

Spinach, oranges, chicken tikka masala, and cashews are all good sources of potassium, which helps remove excess sodium from your bloodstream.

Nice work

by coffee, do you mean caffeine, or not even decaf coffee?

@mleadman – I cut out all coffee for that three-week period. I’m back to having it a couple times per week, on the days when I need an extra pick me up.

Ah, I didn't pay attention

to the 3 week period.

I’ve cut out booze permanently, and that dropped 25 pound s off me and lowered my BP to normal (not that BP was really high). But I still like my coffee. My next priority is to drink more water and cut way down on fried potatos. I think fries/chips is my biggest weakness at t he moment.

I gave up the coffee habit, but never the alcohol!

I think cleaning up what you drink is one of the best things you can do. I’m completely off soda (used to drink a ton) and drink one cup of decaf coffee for breakfast and one cup of chamomile tea for lunch, otherwise I drink a shit ton of water.

I’m also forcing vegetables down my throat, which I hate, but what can ya do.

I miss soda so hard sometimes

@Michael – I used to hate many green vegetables, until I discovered the wonder of putting delicious salad dressing and parmesan cheese on them. I’ve always loved onions and bell peppers, though.

My salad at lunch today had orange and yellow bell peppers, a few (not too many) croutons, a small amount (like 1/2 t) of sunflower seeds, and a similar amount of sliced almonds. Sometimes I include a small amount of cheese too. Many ways to spice up that salad while keeping it healthy.

I’m making a chicken for the sole purpose of being able to put part of it in a salad.

My chicken salad

involves quite a bit of mayo tho

The Wisconsin Salads

Chicken, tuna and ham

@The Dude Abides – Wow, I didn’t even think of the idea of replying like this when the comments couldn’t break any further. Good idea. Lol.

GO TO WIDE MODE!

I’m not against the side yet.

I was wondering why he was doing it.

I am sipping green tea right now. I do drink diet soda (w/o caffeine) still, like one at lunch, but particularly for people who like caloric drinks, this can be a big deal.

That's one of my questions

is diet, non-caffeine soda ok? I’ve heard any type of soda is really not good for you long-term

Most of the diet sodas have Aspartame, which is (roughly) bleach for your innards, in technical terms.

The fucking aspartame will probably kill me eventually, but at least it is zero calories.

If you got to go down, might as well look good in the process

I stopped drinking any sort of caffeine over a year ago. I’m not sure if it’s actually helping or anything due to all my other health issues, but I like that I don’t need caffeine anymore.

Me too. I like not being addicted to the caffeine anymore. I don’t religiously avoid it – a nice coffee with a rich dessert is a great combination – but no more habit.

When it comes to veggies

I pretty much only eat corn peas/green beans onions and uh potatoes. My wife hates me sometimes.

explains the Shrek thing.

I have learned over time

that corn, peas and potatoes are not vegetables.
Onions probably add little nutritional value.

Green beans are great if you don’t overcook them.

Its ok I also eat a lot of quinoa
Quinoa is a grain too

I am guessing the leafy green things in the supermarket don’t go into your cart.

I’m trying to get G to eat kale. Will let you know how it goes.

This might take a wile ;)

Make a soup

with Kale, I know of several recipes

I put it with some white beans and made a stew, we’ll see how it goes. :)

i’m picking out the kale, cooking a steak, and using the kale to add color to my plate.

the last time you tried to cook a steak you set it on fire

I was using another man’s grill. It was God teaching me a lesson.

I’m fixing a hole where the rain came in
To stop my mind from wondering

oh I know

I was just joking :-p. Does cilantro count as leafy and green lol? I get most of my veggies from salsa.

you know

the culinary kind

I have to ask

culinary kind of what

according to wikipedia

some things are considered fruits by botony but used as vegetables in culinary..ness.

like tomatoes?

yes

and apparently green beans.

When it comes to veggies, I take pills.

My philosophy is to eat what I want within reason and take my chances with my genetics. Just ate a box of nerds, good stuff.

Pretty much, if I don’t live to be 83, but enjoyed everything I ate, I’d consider it a win.

Right. If I have to eat crap like raw eggs and donkey brains to be Jake LaLane(sp?) level healthy then screw it. Being able to eat what you want within reason is part of what makes life enjoyable. Once again, within limits and knowing your genetics. If I balloon up, then yeah I am cutting back… but until then nerds, coke, and a few carrots and I am good.

knowing my genetics

I need to get in the habit of eating clean now so I don’t have to do it in a reactionary fashion after I get diabetes.

Yeah, it is important to know your genetics.

also

I feel much better when I am in shape/not overweight, so there’s that, too. :)

But man, I love food.

I am absolute proof that some of this unfortunately

is hereditary.

with cheddar, and a freckled lemonade, with ranch for the fries.

oh royal has the egg? I always just get the basic cheeseburger and have never ever been disappointed

I love Red Robin

i was kind of surprised when Mad sid she wasn’t a Red Robin fan. I began to question her patriotism.

No wonder you were rooting for Oxford! :)

I’m rooting for Oxford so I can open up a legit mexican food place in London.

The British can’t handle things like “flavor”.

Sorry “flavour”

the most legit indian food i’ve ever had was in dublin. go figure

London is home of great Indian food

Their food scene was really good when I was there. You just have to get past all the “pubs” that are everywhere.

I saw a few Mexican places when I was there but I wasn’t really interested in trying them.

And the few I saw were pretty crowded.

I didn’t get to visit London when I was Over There, but I did go to Scotland, and the food was pretty good.

The huge Indian population in London laughs at you

Exception made for countries you ruled for at least 300 years.

How’s the poutine in the UK?

It requires not only ruling for 300myears, but having a fair proportion of the ruled emigrate to the “home” country. That never happened with the UK and its franco-Canadian population. No poutine (thank God), nor maple syrup either (way bad).

I’m an (Anglo) Montrealer who lied in the UK 20 years. I know whereof I speak.

Yet another chain the Westside eschews. I’ll have to check it out next time I’m in Sherman Oaks.

I’m not sure we have one in the Noaks.

yeah definitely not

West Valley is where you gotta go.

But why do that when you can go to the Counter/Unami burger instead?

Sometimes you want a pound of beef and infinite fries, sometimes you want a good burger.

Oh weird. It listed a Glendale location as neighborhood Sherman Oaks.

I’m a big fan of The Counter. Still been meaning to try Five Guys, which just opened at Fox Hills Mall, so I can have the overpriced burger for myself.

atmosphere

strawberry lemonade
steak fries

atmosphere…if you enjoy seeing what happened when the 1950s got sick and threw up all over a restaurant :)

I do.

Yet, i hate Ruby’s. Terrible food, IMO

it’s this and many other things that make me seriously wonder about our relationship

:D

they always have the really cool american flag made out of baseballs

I’ve always wanted to make one of those for my own house. I HAVE A HOUSE NOW. HOLY SHIT THIS HAS TO HAPPEN.

I enjoyed the realization mid post

I honeslty just hadn't thought about it in awhile

and after going to my cousins place for christmas and seeing how he had Obey shit all over every wall(he does a lot of work for them, knows the artist) I realized my plan to stick random “art” on my walls was not good enough and wanted a personal touch. So yeah, I am excite.

I’ve you’ve got a Cheesecake Factory you have to have a Red Robin.

You’d think that.

Oh wait there’s a Fudruckers there that totally screws up the math.

hahaha

Let’s just say “fuck it” and go to gyu kaku instead

There’s a plan I can get behind.

it’s been long enough since the night of 1000 sake shots, so i think i can hang again

Yeah. We have like 5 Cheesecake Factories and zero Red Robins.

Cheesecake Factory sucks, Red Robin is awesome. You got screwed.

I prefer to gain weight by making the food myself, not by going out for every meal and eating “healthy” at Red Robin

I don’t think anyone is touting Red Robin as “healthy”. If I’m not getting 2500 calories I’m not getting what I wanted

right

but if I want to splurge i’d rather do it at a place like the counter

If we all go to The Counter in MDR when my daughter is working, we’ll get 50% off!

Next Friday!

:(

What’d I forget this time

oh nothing

I just have to work.

Maybe Maddz and I can get Marty too

and go get ramen in the Valley on Monday

Let’s make this happen.

Im seriously tempted going there

and just ordering a Iced Tea and some garlic fries, well done of course

yup, only thing I’ve thought sucked was the german themed burger, the bun was gross

Freckled lemonade?

Must have ginger in it.

strawberry lemonade

Not an egg guy

on burgers? or in general?

Strangely potato chips on burgers, greatly enhances the bite

I like scrambled eggs. Other than that, I’m pretty much down on eggs other than as an ingredient.

I thought I was the only one.

I will not eat a fried egg unless its on some sort of sandwich

Am I the only one who puts mustard on their fried egg sandwich?

I will put mustard on nearly anything and almost everything

Doesn’t Mrs. HJ complain about that?

at times she complains about nearly anything and almost everything

Once of the few uses of mayonnaise is for fried-egg sandwiches.

I'll put mayo

on a hot dog

I do too, on my late night sausage on sourdough special.

The German in me will not allow me to degrade a sausage with mayonnaise.

Okay, mustard and sauerkraut works great also.

you dont like omletes? shit is the bombesest

Those include scrambled eggs. I love them

Eric does always order his Grand Slam

with scrambled eggs

I like the Banzai Burger

It’s between this, mushroom, or bleu cheese.

Like the first two choices, I’m not a bleu cheese fan.

This whole egg thing is unbelievable. A fried egg cooked in bacon grease, OH MY

I’ve been playing with a new (for me) technique where you slow poach eggs by cooking in a large pot of water on very low heat in a very specific temperature range for about 45 minutes. Then you crack the egg and a perfect slow-poached egg comes out. Then I take that and fry it (often in bacon grease). It is pretty much egg perfection

Banzai Burger is where it’s at. Pineapple on a burger, good stuff.

what was the South Park line about Red Robin during the Occupy Episode? I can’t remember

Their western w/e burger is pretty good
my wife is really into their mushroom burger
Last night, I ate in no particular order

oxtail, beef heart, Japanese squash and seared sea bass sashimi

Sometimes, I’m not jealous.

though the sashimi sounds good

ha ha, my hidden thought

Last night I ate two chili dogs and three Oreos filled with chocolate frosting.

I have this image of you untwisting the oreos, scraping the cream off with a nice, putting your own chocolate frosting on there, reapplying okie ends, and destroying the box.

i guess beef heart is next on my list of weird things i’ve eaten from a cow.

It’s shockingly non offensive.

since I’ve done tongue and intestine, I’m thinking heart can’t be that bad

Oxtail is a pretty classic ingredient

Both in Hawaiian, Italian and Filipino (Pilipino) cooking. It really is just another section of the cow that is braised.

If I served you beef heart the way it was cooked last night, you would not know what part of the cow it came from.

The squash is similar to other squashes.

My M-I-L makes an awesome soup with chicken hearts. They’re the highlight.

just dont tell me you’ve sat at a table of people that smash in a live monkeys brain and ate it… FUCK THAT!

i feel like Xeifrank about almost everything

when people start talking about food in here.

I just don’t see the appeal of most things talked about food wise.

There’s this thing called a ‘z’ key

shocking that you would say that

well, I’m not going to stop talking about food just because you don’t find it interesting.

what was the expected response you were looking for?

I wasn't looking for a response, just saying something i was thinking

which is 95% of the reason most people say anything on here.

I wasn't looking for a response, just saying something i was thinking

which is 95% of the reason most people say anything on here.

Its not his fault the counter is repetative

good think Counter 2 fixed that problem.

The Pretzel Bun is a lie

that made me so sad

It's hard to tell what this means, haha

CounteMarket Fresh bun for a month was the Pretzel Bun, and it was such a hit they kept in on the menu for seral months after that, but when we went last week or so it was gone.

and I missed it

bollocks

They wouldn't lie to you at red robin's

Heck, just go for the Shift-A key(s). :)

Then I might miss some tv or movie talk! :)
You need

to download my new SBN app that filters out certain keywords and names. Right now it can only load three filters due to coding difficulties. My three filters currently have “Clippers”, “Star Wars” and “Taco Truck” in them.

hahha

don’t hate

It would be cool if the offered an api

Funny, since you make just about as many Clipper comments as anyone, the only difference is you are trying to punk them.

we should just include the phrase

“taco truck” whenever we are actually talking about the dodgers

Yeah, it was a joke. And with 95% of my jokes, you are the butt of them. :)
Cuz I like you. But only as a bro, ok?

I was wondering about the like part since I was the butt of so many

lmao

that’s awesome

well tell us what food does appeal to you man?

not too much honestly

I think people would just think i’m a little kid with the food i eat, haha.

no risk proposition for you buddy. We already think you’re a little kid because of your drink choices.

well perfect :)

It’s a win-win!

I will say this

though I was eating some different foods at Ivdown’s age, I was not eating the variety of foods I eat now as I am over twice his age.

But someday or someone will get you try new things as time goes on.

When I was 18/19 I wouldn’t go near sushi. Love the stuff now

I was able to use my evil feminine wiles to get G to eat sushi. I’m very pleased

tastes great

just depends if youre gonna be able to swallow it because of the texture. That freaked me out the first couple times.

4 words to save your life

Spicy Tuna Tempura Roll

dude, one word

Yellowtail

dammit

now I want sushi!

Two Words

Tex Wasabis.

I have to go take a shower now.

I went to his Garlic place up in norcal

it wasn’t terrible

At least he’s Italian…I think.

He pronounces his last named correctly.

I dont think Fieri is his real last name.

Guy Ferry. Claims to have changed it to honor his Italian grandfather.

I should get dressed and go continue my day of chores. Ugh.

Previous to this you were doing the chores undressed?

Posting ala natural on TBLA is a time honored tradition

It’s basically a rule.

but hopefully

never on the can

sorry bout that

The Ipad has a dick app making it even easier

Usually it is only my thoughts that are naked.

sometimes

my lunch is

Yea

But its hot to think about Maddz doing it. Thinking about, say, Eric doing it… not so much. :D

yup, up here they have a place that does it with jalapeno, cream cheese, spicy tuna, some other good stuff wrapped in a flour tortilla and deep fried.

You want bizarre texture

try Sea urchin. I love sushi/sashimi but the texture on it is… odd, to say the least.

Very evil

I’ve been put under that spell too, not cool! lol

I had a...bad experience with Sushi over the summer

trying to impress a girl, lol. I’m not sure I’ll ever try sushi again.

did you get it from a supermarket?

Sushi place in Hollywood by the Hollywood Bowl

nice place actually. My fish with soy sauce was great

I had a...bad experience with Sushi over the summer

trying to impress a girl, lol. I’m not sure I’ll ever try sushi again.

I wouldn’t even try sushi until this passed year

The 4 or 5 times I've tried

usually end in me almost vomiting

this was my same result just about

deep fried and work your way towards other stuff

dam you are trippin if you dont like sushi…. there is a very good reason there is a sushi place on every corner.

AMERICA

fuck yeah!!

I’d kill a hobo for some sushi.

I have not eaten sushi. I am not going to eat sushi unless i’m on a boat with Thor Heyerdahl

I will never eat pickled fish

I will eat it all, once. And most things time after time after time.

I didn't post that to say you shouldn't talk about whatever you want

I just find it personally funny people can get so into food talk :)

My dad has been telling me for years I will start eating more than my small “diet” i’ve got going now. Lets hope he’s right and stuff starts tasting better to me, if not i’m screwed, lol.

from a relationship standpoint it’s really hard to date someone who has a restricted diet. this goes to people who only eat pizza or potatoes and people who are vegan when the other person is not.

i’m convinced part of the reason my bff’s relationship failed was that she was vegan and made it somewhat difficult for her boyfriend.

Your SO will get tired of going to the same four places and having to make sure everything you order is completely cleared of anything that isn’t brown or neon orange not that I am bitter about this or anything

I can definitely get that

Which is why I’m 1000% more willing to try new things when it comes to a girl than someone I know telling me to try something.

that’s just being a male, homie.

haha…thats not always a good thing.

Is thinking about what it is before you eat it the problem? I had that problem with Menudo, among other things…. but I got over it and tried it… its really good.

Thinking for me is the biggest problem for just about anything

It took me a bit to psych myself up to even try the first bite.

That is how Clyde started robbing banks

don't be shocked when you see the news story :P

As they carry you away, you’ll be overheard yelling about trying to get out of the friend zone.

I had to rec this, hahaha

and how Gillooly started ordering hits on knees.

Food talk

has been a big staple of the TBLA chat diet for a long long time. One day I will make a top 50 list of off topic TBLA chat subjects. We can debate it for a few weeks.

I hope sci fi shows are in the top 5!

Talking about making lists that nobody actually makes would have to be on that list.

I shouldn’t be surprised that a dude who likes AMFs doesn’t have a refined palette for food. ;-)

bowling alley food sucks
you don't know what you are missing with AMFs :)

Yes, yes I do. I was young once, you know.

dude

you drank your AMFs in a wooden cup

At least his was wooden, mine was stone

Must have been hell to distill the booze when you hadn’t captured fire yet.

That is truly the cup of a carpenter.

Take all the papers and the trash
Jon Heyman
#redsox and vicente padilla are moving toward a deal

The headline is just something that was going on in my head as I typed this.

something something spending cash

“or you don’t get no”

Guess the Red Sox figure why not

take a shot in the leg dark.

Over/Under on number of Yankees he pegs this year?

Texiera 19 times.

Don’t talk back

So Vicente is gunning for Boston huh?

BACKDROP DRIVER!

he ok?

It’s Gronk, he’s a beast. Fine.

Translation

There isn’t enough up there to damage.

He is, got right up

/lawnchair’d

that actually is quite hard to watch

I minimized :)

Holy shit

I saw Brock Lesnar do that to A-train once and I thought he broke his neck

@Dodgers:

Congrats to Clayton Kershaw on being recognized as the 2011 Los Angeles ‘Sportsman of the Year’ by the Los Angeles Sports Council

Modern day Lou Gehrig?

Clear another space on the mantel, CK.

read that as Mantei and wondered what ever happened to Matt.

legit 100mph as i recall

Fangraphs says 94. /phil

Anyone who is a fan of line play should read this

awesome breakdown of the bengals d line vs the texans o line from last weekend

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/word-muth/2012/word-muth-outside-adjustments

Only thing I want to know about Texans: Will they sign Mario to a big deal or save the cash and stick with Barwin?

Barwin isn't going anywhere

Mario might replace Reed next year though. Personally I would like them to move Mario to DE, move Watt to NT, and keep reed at LB. That would be an unstoppable front 7.

One way or another Mario will be there next year, but they need to resign Schuab too. Money might be tight.

man, I love your Barwin theory.

well Barwin and Mario where set to be the two starting OLB

and where till Mario went down(with 6 sacks through less then six games IIRC). I still think Mario if healthy is the most talented player on our defense.

should have drafted Reggie Bush :)

That’s what I’m getting at. I’ve already heard rumblings they might not want to spend the $$ on Mario and Barwin and Reed are under contract right? Watt is not big enough or the type of player for a NT in the 3-4.

We run a 1 game scheme

Theres a reason Ratliffe has had success at NT for Wade before, we don’t run the traditional 2 gap 3-4. Shit we are playing Shaun Cody on the nose right now, Watt or Antonio Smith could do it better then him in their sleep. I think its more likely they flip or cut Antonio Smith and move Mario to DE then let him walk.

You guys struck gold drafting Mario instead of Reggie

I remember thinking what a swing and a miss back then. lol

I was always liked the pick

but I believe in building the line first

This might stray into political/inappropriate for TBLA

but I need to share this article (which i got from Jon Weisman on facebook, thanks jon!) because of this paragraph, which I wholeheartedly agree with:

And an aside, Taylor: Nobody wants to boycott Girl Scout cookies because everybody loves Girl Scout cookies. God, they are so good. If it wasn’t for the consequences of a slow metabolism, I would buy sixty boxes and eat them all in one sitting, alternating between frozen thin mints, frozen Tagalongs (with that peanut butter crack center that make the whole thing like a PB Max and FUCK I NEED ONE NOW), and those coconutty Samoas with the caramel underneath and DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT A HEALTHY RELATIONSHIP I HAVE WITH YOUR PRODUCT?

Don’t Fuck With My Thin Mints, You Evil, Transgender-Averse Girl Scout

I buy lots of Girl Scout cookies from parents. I give them all away except for the Thin Mints. As he said, frozen thin mints are danger Will Robinson danger

serious? everyone here is a fan of the thin mints? my mom buys that shit and those shortbread ones… the wackest ones you can get…. Tagalongs and samoas are by far the best… then comes peanut better, that is a pretty plain cookie, but still above mints and those shortbread whatever they are called. What other kinds do they have?

Thin Mints are all I need. All-abouts and Tagalongs are good too, though.

I’m not sure what other kinds they have. I usually just buy a few boxes of Thin Mints and toss them in the freezer. Mmmmm

im just not a big fan of mixing chocolate and mint…. its weird to me…. if I want fresh breath ill take a mint, or gum, if I want to each chocolate im eating it with way better shit then mind… like peanuts, peanut butter, almonds, caramel… those cripsy things… but not mind…. not a big fan of peppermint mocha either…

sorry, mint*, not mind.

I like mint in chocolate, not so much in cookies.

I love shortbread cookies. But the GS ones are simply OK. One of my wife’s co-workers, who is British, gave us a tin of homemade cookies at Xmas that included shortbread ones. Man were those things good.

LOTS AND LOTS of butter. Mmm butter.

Butter. FUCK YEAH!

I’m not big on the Thin Mints. They’re ok, but mint is just not what does it for me in a cookie. Like you, I like the Tagalongs.

thank you david… yeah I agree.

I knew someday we’d agree on something! ;-)

Our neighborhood Girl Scouts

sold nuts instead of cookies this year. Being disappointed, I only bought one box of cashews for $7. I don’t even like them, but my wife and daughter will eventually eat them.

I've never understood

the appeal of Girl Scout Cookies

Thank heaven for little girls

Now back to this one

Oof, sorta beat me to it.

Frozen Thin Mints go great with Sushi

Nolander does.

I thought we buried that joke

It should be used judiciously. This seemed like the once-or-twice-a-year moment to use it.

I'm just thinking of the halloween episode of the league now

Love that show

gonna have to buy the most recent season on amazon digital

don’t want to wait a year for season 3 to hit dvd

Can I do that with Breaking Bad season 4? Same thing, I don’t want to wait a year to see it on netflix instant.

30 bucks for season 4 in hd

which actually isn’t a bad deal http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005D646RE/ref=atv_dp_season_select?ie=UTF8&redirect=true

for reference 13 episodes of the league in hd is going to run 37

man thats hard to stomach

Awesome. Thanks! BTW, I just got a PS3, is there a way to purchase and watch this on the gaming device? If you know.

hm

360 it would be easier, with the ps3 I think you would have to hope they add the content to the PSN and buy it there(but then not be able to watch it anywhere else). You could try an app like tvversity on your pc to transcode it from your computer to your ps3

Thanks. I’ll give it a shot. Fair warning, I might be bothering you later if I can’t figure it out.

oh noes

I love that the 360 has media center built in just for this reason. It makes it so easy to manage all this digital crud

might not be able to do it

I fuggin hate DRM so much. It just makes this so painful for people.

Random

I just realized [during lunch today] that Mayor Carcetti from The Wire is played by the same actor as “Littlefinger” in Game of Thrones. Rewatching GoT and enjoying it even more the second time around.

I’m surprised you didn’t catch that immediatelly. Of all the guys on the wire, I thought Carcetti had the most obvious accent that he was trying to hide.

I was definitely surprised by String’s and McNulty

I thought Dominick West

Blew his accent almost once per episode

Ive never heard of a transgender so young before.

Things more likely than Dodgers signing Prince Fielder

1. Me marrying a supermodel
2. Me being elected President
3. The Timberwolves winning the NBA title
4. TBLA going a day without talking about burgers
5. Ted Lilly winning the 2012 NL Cy Young Award

not going to do the math

but I’d guess you are wrong on maybe all accounts

I secretly wish we do this just because I secretly wish we do this.

I hope he marries a supermodel or at least milks the cow for free

On the list of pitchers similar to Ted Lilly through age 35, Mike Scott and Pat Hentgen both won Cy Youngs and Esteban Loaiza and Jason Schmidt came in second. Granted not in their age-36 seasons, but still…

Who was the oldest Cy Young award winner?

Ever

Randy Johnson?

Don’t know was just looking at this list
http://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/mvp_cya.shtml

Clemens , R Johnson

Warren Spahn was quite the pitcher after 30

Jamie Moyer will be in 2022

My guess is Clemens

Clemens was 42 in 2004 and Perry was 40 in 1978.

Randy I'm sure

When Sandy Koufax won 26 games in 1965 and struck out 382, he also picked up 2 saves.

Will Capang match those numbers?

Crazy things happen with nine man pitching staffs.

I’m guessing Eric is working on a Clayton Kershaw LA Sportsman of the Year story. Thus proving this is a Dodger Town since he beat out that soccer guy who won a championship while we won the hearts of the city.

/probably not

Quick

Post the We Win image

So McCourt didn't actually say

“NO, WE ARE NOT GOING TO SIGN PRINCE FIELDER”

Right?

He did not say those words

He was all, " LMFAO."

He must be hanging out with 4down.

Then he chugged a Mike’s Hard Lemonade.

Until Prince signs with someone else, I’m going to say the Dodgers are in more than “not”

Until Penelope Cruz gets married, I am going to say that I am in more than “not”

Play the percentages

there are many men who can say that, but only 30 teams have a shot!

according to wikipedia she is married to Javier Bardem..whom ever that is, so sorry, but you’re fucking out, he’s fuckin in.

No Country for uschris.

Best haircut ever, uchris.

The fact that I am married makes me more out than “not”.

Party Rock Anthem will replace Don’t Stop Believin’.

You're just sad you can't use whatever lol, haha, lmao you want

I’m not afraid to look the way I do :P*

*hot damn I love smilies too! :)

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