The next part of my series takes a look at another interesting set of players. We've moved past most of the no-name DSL players, and in this group in particular we are looking at several guys from the US based rookie leagues. All of these players appear to have some upside, but are still along ways off from being legitimate prospects. Hopefully some of them will take big steps forward in 2012.
140. Matthew Laney, LHP (24.1 IP in Arz Rookie Lg in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers in July 2011 as a non drafted free agent
6’4”, 235 lbs, 23.5 years old
2-0, 0.74 ERA, 0.90 WHIP, 2.46 FIP, 8.88 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Matthew Laney was one of 8 non-drafted free agent pitchers to sign with the Dodgers during 2011. He started his college career at Miami Dade Community College and was selected by the Phillies in the 42nd round of the 2009 draft, but he instead decided to attend Coastal Carolina. Laney spent two years with the Chanticleers and posted decent stats as he had an ERA around 4.25 and struck out a batter per inning, but after his senior year in 2011 he didn’t get drafted. Shortly after he signed with the Dodgers, he said “It was very stressful in wanting to continue my dream to play pro ball. After the draft, there was nothing to lose pretty much, so I signed as a free agent; and I’m going to pitch as well as I can and see if I can continue to play for a couple of years.” Matthew joined the Arizona Dodgers in mid July and became one of their best bullpen arms. Laney actually didn’t allow an earned run until his last appearance of the season, and overall he threw 24.1 frames while allowing just 12 hits. The 6'4" lefty throws in the low 90's and while he was one of the older players in the Arizona Rookie League, his stats are hard to ignore. Given his age and success in 2011, I would guess that Laney will get a chance to play with the Loons in 2012. While non-drafted pitchers don’t usually have much of an impact, maybe he’ll buck the trend and turn out to be a decent find for the Dodgers.
139. Andrew Edge, C (41 games in Pioneer Rookie Lg in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2010, 24th round
6’2”, 230 lbs, 24.25 years old, bats right handed
.253 average, .831 OPS, 8 HR’s, 28 RBI’s, 1 SB
Pre 2011 Rank: 137; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Andrew Edge was selected by the Dodgers in the 24th round of the 2010 draft out of Jacksonville State, and he was ready to sign right away. Upon getting drafted, he said “I was just hoping to get picked up by anybody. I’m actually happy with the Dodgers. I like the team and hopefully I can work hard and make my way up there. They told me to enjoy it right now. I’m kind of on cloud nine and waiting to see what I need to do.” While at Jacksonville State, the catcher had a very good senior season as he hit .330 with 11 homers and 64 RBI’s. Edge made his professional debut with the Arizona Dodgers, but after a hot start he slumped to end the season. After getting promoted to Ogden in 2011, Edge followed similar path as he was killing the ball through the month of July – hitting .316 with 6 homers and an OPS over 1.000, but he again hit the skids as the season came to a close and ended the year with an average of .253. In addition, he incredibly struck out in almost half of his plate appearances while with the Raptors (48.2%), which lead to an amazing batting average for ball in play of .464. In terms of his defense, Andrew has done a solid job thus far as he’s thrown out 42% of would be base-stealers so far in his professional career and has a decent fielding % of .972. Looking ahead to 2012, it’s going to be tough for Edge to play in a full season league given his terrible contact rate, but he’ll probably get the chance to hold down the backup role with the Loons given his age, power, and defensive abilities.
Follow the jump for #'s 138 - 131

138. Giordanny Chavez, RHP (47.2 IP in DSL in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers 1/29/09
6’3”, 185 lbs, 20.75 years old
3-4, 3.78 ERA, 1.38 WHIP, 3.56 FIP, 5.48 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: 110; Pre 2010 Rank: 139; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
After a terrible debut in the DSL in 2009 (6.38 ERA in 18.1 innings), Giordanny Chavez had quite a turnaround in 2010 as he recorded a 1.85 ERA over 68 innings. However his peripherals didn’t really compliment his ERA because the Dominican native had a FIP of 3.73 and he only struck out 6.22 per 9 innings, so it’s no surprise that he came back down to earth in 2011. In his 3rd season with the Dominican Dodgers Chavez had a 3.78 ERA and continued to post a low strikeout rate. His did have a decent WHIP, however, and his FIP remained pretty steady at 3.58. In addition, Chavez has a good pitchers’ frame at 6’3” and is still relatively young at 20 years old, so I think he’ll get promoted to the Arizona Rookie League for the 2012 season where he still could turn into a legitimate Dodger prospect.
137. Kevin Taylor, 2B (2 games in Arz Rookie Lg in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2011, 36th round
6’0”, 200 lbs, 20.5 years old, bats left handed
.000 average, .168 OPS, 0 HR’s, 0 RBI’s, 0 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Kevin Taylor played his college ball at Western Nevada Community College, and was in the same league as Bryce Harper in 2010 when both freshmen were named to the Scenic West Athletic Conference All-Region 18 First Team. While Harper went on to become the #1 pick of the 2010 draft, Taylor decided to stay one more season at Western Nevada and the Dodgers picked Taylor in the 36th round of the 2011 draft. He initially turned down a Dodger offer as Campbellsville University announced that he would attend their school in the fall. At that point, the Campbellsville baseball coach said “We are really excited to sign Kevin…Offensively, Kevin is a pure hitter who can hit with power to all fields and defensively, he could play all nine positions. He can run the bases as well." It turned out that Taylor did sign with the Dodgers at the deadline, but because he inked his deal so late he only played in two games in the Arizona Rookie League last season. In college Kevin hit for a solid average and drove in a lot of runs, but based on his stats he seemed to have more gap power rather than raw power. Overall I think Taylor was a solid late sign for the Dodgers, and it will be interesting to see how he does in 2012. My guess is that because he played two years of college ball – not to mention in a wood bat conference – that he’ll get an opportunity to spend next season with the Raptors in the Pioneer League.
136. Chris Handke, RHP (25.2 IP in Pioneer Rookie Lg in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2009, 41st round
6’11”, 235 lbs, 24 years old
0-1, 6.66 ERA, 1.99 WHIP, 6.36 FIP, 9.47 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: 135; Pre 2010 Rank: 154; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
I’ve written about Chris Handke’s interesting background before, but I figure it’s worth mentioning again. Prior to signing with the Dodgers, the giant pitcher was actually a much better basketball player at Cornell College, averaging 9.8 points per game and setting the single season record for blocks with 45 during the 2008-2009 season. In addition, Handke had a 3.92 GPA while majoring in Biochemistry and Molecular Biology. And by the way, his career pitching stats at Cornell looked like this: 0-1, 10.12 ERA, 25 walks, and 11 strikeouts in 21.1 innings. So needless to say it was a bit of a surprise when he signed with the Dodgers, although he was influenced by the fact that the Dodgers allowed him to finish his degree in the offseason. Handke only got into two games in his professional debut because an injury shut him down, and then in 2010 he threw pretty well over 22.1 innings for the Arizona Dodgers despite being extremely wild. In 2011, Chris was promoted to the Pioneer League where he was supposed to be in Ogden’s rotation, but he continued to struggle with his control so he only made 4 starts before moving to the bullpen. Handke walked 29 in just 25.2 innings and posted a devilish ERA. That being said, he didn’t allow many hits and had a strong strikeout rate so his season wasn’t a complete failure. Overall, tall pitchers are historically late bloomers, but now at 24 years old Handke is running out of time to impress. Give his age he really needs to play in a full season league next year, so his performance in spring training will be extremely important.
135. Pedro Guerrero, 2B/3B/SS (39 games in HiA in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers 7/10/06
6’3”, 185 lbs, 23.25 years old, bats right handed
.274 average, .704 OPS, 0 HR’s, 4 RBI’s, 2 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: 99; Pre 2010 Rank: 92; Pre 2009 Rank: 67
Pedro Guerrero was signed out of the Dominican Republic in 2006 and played two seasons in the Dominican Summer League before making his U.S. debut in 2008. He produced average numbers in the rookie leagues during his first two years in America, and then Guerrero was promoted to LoA for the start of the 2010 season. Unfortunately he struggled so badly with the Loons that he was sent back to extended spring training in May before finishing the year in Ogden. In 2011 Guerrero received a surprise promotion to the Quakes, but he was used very sparingly and was actually taken off the roster several times during the season to make room for other players. When he was on Rancho’s active roster he was used in a utility role as he split his time between shortstop, 2nd base, and 3rd base. At the plate he had a mediocre season, but his sample size was very small and he didn’t show any speed or power. Overall, I had considered Guerrero a fringe prospect in the past, but he's shown very little offensive ability over the last few seasons and he now appears to be more of an organizational player. He’ll probably reprise his role as a Quakes utility infielder in 2012.
134. Yimy Rodriguez, RHP (44.1 IP in Pioneer Rookie Lg in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2010, 27th round
6’2”, 215 lbs, 24.5 years old
3-3, 4.06 ERA, 1.35 WHIP, 3.63 FIP, 8.73 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: 139; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
When Yimy Rodriguez was selected by the Dodgers out of Peru St. College (Nebraska) in the 27th round of the 2010 draft, he became the first player from school to make it to the professional ranks. After the draft, PSC President Dan Hanson said, “This is a great day for Yimy and Peru State College baseball. In addition to making Peru State history, Yimy’s baseball success will undoubtedly inspire legions of young athletes from the area long into the future. I congratulate Yimy on his amazing accomplishment and the Dodgers on a great new recruit.” At Peru, Yimy had a 3.83 ERA as a junior and a 4.52 ERA as a senior. After spending his professional debut in the Arizona Rookie League, Yimy played for the Raptors in 2011 and was the team’s token long reliever. Rodriguez accumulated 44.1 frames in just 16 appearances and posted an ERA of 4.06. His peripherals were slightly better, however, as he struck out almost a batter per inning and had a FIP of 3.63. In terms of his stuff, I read somewhere that Rodriguez does have a strong fastball, but outside of that I’m not sure what his repertoire consists of. At 24 years old Yimy will definitely move to a full season league in 2012, and it will probably be the defining year of his professional career.
133. Bryant Hernandez, SS/2B (5 games in AAA, 58 games in LoA, 19 games in Arz Rookie Lg in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2009, 9th round
5’8”, 170 lbs, 24 years old, bats right handed
.235 average, .658 OPS, 4 HR’s, 29 RBI’s, 6 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: 105; Pre 2010 Rank: 84; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
The Dodgers first noticed Bryant Hernandez when they were scouting his University of Oklahoma teammate J.T. Wise, who ended up getting selected four rounds earlier than Hernandez in the 2009 draft. While Bryant is listed at just 5’8” and 170 pounds, in his junior season at Oklahoma he batted .351, hit 12 HR’s, and tied Wise for the team lead with 62 RBI’s. He was also a finalist for the Brooks Wallace Award, presented to the nation's top shortstop. After the draft, Logan White said that Hernandez “is a kid that had good numbers, could hit in the middle of the night, could play short or second and he's a sure-handed fielder with some pop in his bat.” After a mediocre debut in the Arizona Rookie League in 2009, Bryant split the 2010 season between LoA and HiA but had a terrible time at the plate as he hit a combined .179 with a .524 OPS. In 2011 Hernandez returned to the Midwest League where he was used as a backup middle infielder, but he again struggled mightily and was sent back down to the Arizona Rookie League at the end of July. A strong month in Arizona got him a surprise promotion to AAA for 5 games, but that was more out of necessity for Albuquerque who was short on infielders as their season came to a close. Overall, Hernandez and his .228 career batting average will probably never make it to the big leagues, but he can help the Dodgers as an organizational player over the next few years. In 2012 I predict that Hernandez will spend the year in Rancho Cucamonga where he’ll again serve as a backup middle infielder. Finally, here are a couple videos of Bryant; one of him taking some batting practice, and one of some game action where he hit a walk off single.
132. Moises Tamarez, RHP (18 IP in DSL in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers in 2009
6’3”, 195 lbs, 20 years old
0-0, 2.00 ERA, 1.00 WHIP, 4.14 FIP, 5.00 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank; 104; Pre 2010 Rank: 87; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
2011 was an odd year for Moises Tamarez. In his 3rd season in the DSL Tamarez posted by far the best ERA of his career, but he was limited to just 18 innings after hurling a combined 75.2 frames over the previous two years. It didn’t appear that his limited use was due to injury, however, since his 8 appearances were spread all throughout the season. Whatever the case, Moises had more than just a solid ERA in 2011 as his batting average against was .185. In fact, he only allowed 1 hit to left handed batters all year long. The one negative about his game, however, is that despite his solid pitching frame Tamarez continues to record very low strikeout numbers and his career K/9 is only 4.6. Overall, Moises is still very young as he won’t turn 20 years old until this upcoming March, but with 3 years and almost 100 innings of experience I believe he’ll get promoted to the Arizona Rookie League in 2012.
131. Bret Montgomery, RHP (4.2 IP in HiA, 90 IP in LoA in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2010, 46th round
6’6”, 250 lbs, 26.5 years old
7-1, 2.66 ERA, 1.08 WHIP, 2.29 FIP, 8.46 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: 143; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Bret Montgomery is a local boy who was the Dodgers 46th round pick in 2010. He was born in Thousand Oaks, and played his college ball at Cal State Dominguez Hills. During his 3 seasons with the Toros, Montgomery had a cumulative 2.95 ERA in 36 appearances, amassed 191 strikeouts, and threw a no hitter against Cal State LA in February of 2010. After getting drafted, Bret said “I am more relieved than anything that I can keep playing baseball. Overall I am very happy that it is with the Dodgers, after idolizing their players and always watching them as a kid it is a dream come true but it was also great being a Toro for three years and I will definitely keep track of our guys.” Upon signing, Montgomery spent most of his professional debut with the Ogden Raptors, and while his ERA was 4.99, he had a solid strikeout to walk ratio and an excellent FIP of 2.49. Here is some footage of him throwing for Ogden. Montgomery was promoted to Great Lakes in 2011 and had an outstanding season for the Loons. In 90 innings “Monty” posted a 2.60 ERA and led the club with his 1.07 WHIP and 2.09 FIP. He worked mostly in middle relief and was probably the team’s most valuable bullpen arm since he remained in Great Lakes for almost the entire season. At the end of August he did get moved up to HiA where he appeared in two games and allowed just 2 hits over 4.2 innings. Overall, Montgomery is obviously quite old to be playing in class A, but he does have some value given his outstanding control and ability to keep the ball in the park. He throws in the low 90’s and possesses a good slider, and while it is very unlikely that he’ll ever play in the big leagues he should continue to be a solid organizational guy that could make his way all the way up to AAA in the next year or two.
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Good morning TBLA fam
VeroJoe - January 12, 2012
yo Joe
:)
Tommy Blackjack - January 12, 2012 via iPhone app
What’s up Tommy!!! How ya feeling?
VeroJoe - January 12, 2012
better than yesterday
Sleeping problems suck
Tommy Blackjack - January 12, 2012 via iPhone app
Sorry to hear that…..I had to take a tylenol PM myself last night
VeroJoe - January 12, 2012
thanks, but it's no big thing
Slept fine last night, thankfully
Tommy Blackjack - January 12, 2012 via iPhone app
sleeping problems? You need a prescription to weed.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
lol
Tommy Blackjack - January 12, 2012 via iPhone app
I’ve watched Weeds, it does tend to put you to sleep.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
it's like you are every single bro that I went to high school with
amazing.
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
That brings back memories. They always showed the Cobra guys either parachuting out or coming safely out of the water. A death-free war cartoon if you will.
kinbote - January 12, 2012
haha yeah
When I saw Duke get stabbed with a snake on the movie it blew my young mind.
Tommy Blackjack - January 12, 2012 via iPhone app
Back when it was ok to make a cartoon about international terrorists.
Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache - January 12, 2012
How naive we were . . .
kinbote - January 12, 2012
Well I don’t know about you, but I totally knew that two twins who feel each other’s pain, a guy with a form fitting metal mask that moved with his facial expressions and mouth movements, a snake dude cloned from the DNA of tyranical dead guys (plus they threw Geronimo in there?), a swamp hillbilly who’s skin changes color, and everyone’s standard military issued rifles shooting lasers instead of rounds was a bunch of hooey.
Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache - January 12, 2012
They were the only action figures I ever owned and I was only vaguely aware there was something “military” about them. The swivel-arm grip was a big deal at the time. Also, the female one had a snug suit.
kinbote - January 12, 2012
But Sgt. Slaughter was real!
Nolij - January 12, 2012
That might’ve been the Jump the Shark moment for the franchise.
kinbote - January 12, 2012
His toy came with a friggin’ baton.
Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache - January 12, 2012
Destro was pretty cool. Snake Eyes too. There was also this real big jet.
kinbote - January 12, 2012
I had the SR-71 blackbird with the piggy back drone on it. It was badass. They also put out a 7’ long aircraft carrier toy. That was kinda cray cray.
Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache - January 12, 2012
loved GI Joes
Loved going into Toys R US and just seeing a whole isle full of GI Joes. I regret giving mine away.
Dodgerblue8188 - January 12, 2012
No way.
This was the “jump the shark” moment.
http://www.yojoe.com/action/86/fridge.shtml
Julio Pena - January 12, 2012
we still make video games about killing russians, nazis, cubans, vietnamese, japanese, w/e. Maybe that’s different since you have to buy the game and know the story ahead of time?
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
Well now there are game rating systems where it can be indicated that a game is for the older set. Hasbro made the cartoon and marketed the toys to young kids. Was just a different world. Also, as kinbote mentioned, Scarlett had a snug suit. And Lady Jaye was butch. And a friend of mine disassembled a handful of guys into their individual parts, used some model paint, and created his own Jack Burton custom GI Joe figure.
Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache - January 12, 2012
the toy came first, n’est ce pas?
Josie Becker - January 12, 2012
The old school 12" ones yeah, the 80’s smaller figures were a different animal entirely. They made a frickin’ Refrigerator Perry doll.
Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache - January 12, 2012
the six inch “action figure” may be toykind’s biggest contribution to mankind
Josie Becker - January 12, 2012
TWSS
BFDC - January 12, 2012
For sure. Then you get asshole’s like Vince McMahon who put out rubber guys with no articulating joints whatsoever.
Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache - January 12, 2012
gotta have that GI Joe, kung fu grip
Josie Becker - January 12, 2012
Did they patent that? Cause nobody really aped it for their guys.
Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache - January 12, 2012
He-man: G.I. Joe::Activision: Atari
kinbote - January 12, 2012
I loved when He Man would use the exact same mold for figures. Slap some smelly felt on Beast Man, presto! New villain!
Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache - January 12, 2012
massive fail
“Intellivision” not “Activision”
kinbote - January 12, 2012
I knew what you were talking about.
Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache - January 12, 2012
This is high stakes stuff we’re discussing here.
kinbote - January 12, 2012
“Beee Seventeen Boooooooomberrrrr”
Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache - January 12, 2012
yes
Josie Becker - January 12, 2012
thanks for the subject header.
Xeifrank - January 12, 2012
did not realize how big scans of patents are : )
Josie Becker - January 12, 2012
I read patents as panties. Rough morning.
kinbote - January 12, 2012
panty raid on TBLA!
Josie Becker - January 12, 2012
95% of wrestling action figures suck
But the old WCW ones from the late 90s and the WWF ones from the early 2000s kick ass. I’ll never forget how much fun I had back then, lol.
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
Do you know how much unfun a Mouth of the South rubber figure holding a microphone that doesn’t bend at all is?
Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache - January 12, 2012
That sounds awful
The best ones were the stings, goldbergs, and a few other random ones. I had some that were fully able to move and actually do their moves, rather than the last decade of wwf toys that can barely move their legs and shit.
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
Pedro Guerrero's
position should have been listed as: hitter.
kinbote - January 12, 2012
Mammoth of a man!
VeroJoe - January 12, 2012
The worst 3b I’ve ever seen. A Five Tool tool at the position.
kinbote - January 12, 2012
The story about how Pedro was thinking, “don’t hit the ball to me, don’t hit the ball to Sax either” is one of my all time favorites. More than any made up or true Rickey Henderson story.
Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache - January 12, 2012
I stood next to him in an elevator once.
He was huge
mleadman - January 12, 2012
Watching super star Chris Paul is fun compared to tentative Chris Paul.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Were you at the game?
Tommy Blackjack - January 12, 2012 via iPhone app
Great game to watch last night, regardless of rooting interest. 10 lead changes in the fourth quarter alone, and that’s before considering watching how great Paul was in the third quarter alone.
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
Heat have to be really pissed to lose back to back OT games.
Xeifrank - January 12, 2012
LeBron did not seem to care much based on his quote.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Yup its 1 regular season game. No biggie
BFDC - January 12, 2012
Ofcourse the Heat dont care lol, thats like game 11 or so of 66…. at this point for Miami, its all about the playoffs. What they do in the playoffs is all that matters.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
Honey Badger don’t care, he gets bit by a cobra, just sleeps it off
Josie Becker - January 12, 2012
who eats larva?
That is so nasty
Tommy Blackjack - January 12, 2012 via iPhone app
look at him, gettin all stung, honey badger don’t care
Josie Becker - January 12, 2012
these birds are like
Thanks for the treat stupid.
Honey Badger’s like “hey get back here”
Tommy Blackjack - January 12, 2012 via iPhone app
Maybe that’s why he couldn’t tackle for crap in the championship game.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
Making a habit of playing shitty in the 4th quarter might be something that a team with World Champion aspirations might b concerned with.
They had no excuse to lose last night.
They lost to the Warriors the night before giving up a 17 point second half lead.
Those are things I might be concerned about. Not like they have a history of closing games, might be something they want to work on.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Also, LeBron was 9 for 17 at the free throw line, including 2 for 4 in the final 20 seconds of regulation.
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
can I get a binky
For baby BronBron?
Tommy Blackjack - January 12, 2012 via iPhone app
Remember how Miami struggled last year, lost like 7 in a row or whatever it was, people made fun of them crying or whatever? Then they went to game 7 of the NBA Finals…. Miami is just fine…. I wish they werent, but they are… its all about staying healthy heading into the playoffs. Flip the Switch.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
They wish they played in a Game 7
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
oh, was it game 6? lol
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
I stopped watching after Lakers got whipped. haha
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
Why was the MIA coach so pissed?
I had the sound turned down (thanks to Mike Smith), but from what I could tell maybe he thought the refs should’ve called a foul to stop the clock when Paul passed to Jordan? I thought the MIA coach was about to cry.
Xeifrank - January 12, 2012
They were trying to foul and it wasn’t called
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
always amusing when a coach argues for a foul on their team
Josie Becker - January 12, 2012
I liked Clipper Steve's opinion on that
Michael White - January 12, 2012
Nah, it was the play before that set him off when Battier clocked Griffin and they did not call the foul. The CLippers got the inbound play and no one wanted to foul the best foul shooter in the NBA.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
I thought they did call the Battier foul, it just wasn’t a shooting foul??
Xeifrank - January 12, 2012
They called a foul. Clips weren’t in the bonus yet.
They should have just fouled Chauncey immediately and hoped for the best. They got cute and tried to foul anybody but Chauncey which ended with Deandre Jordan dunking and essentially ending the game.
Michael White - January 12, 2012
Right. They weren’t in the bonus so what Phil says doesn’t make sense.
Xeifrank - January 12, 2012
Live basketball without announcers can be confusing. Sorry about that.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Oh, then I was simply confused. It was kind of hectic.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Big game for the Clippers this weekend vs Lakers. Early season bragging rights at least. Who you picking?
Xeifrank - January 12, 2012
Clips will win. They will have the energy and Lakers will be on second of back-to-back.
BFDC - January 12, 2012
it’s just Cleveland on Friday :)
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
Who knows Kobe could go for 50.
Having Evans gobble up every rebound will certainly help, Bynum will need to get Jordon into foul trouble early. Gasol does a good job on Griffin who seems to have real problems with power forwards with length.
That said if Wednesday night Chris Paul shows up, the Clipps win, to many horses if he is on his game.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
If Bynum’s offense doesnt show back up by saturday, then yeah Lakers will lose. Why can Bynum barely dunk? instead of boxing classes he needs jumping classes.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
You try dragging Walton and Lanier up and down the court for 48 minutes and see if you could dunk.
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
I speak jive!
kinbote - January 12, 2012
I dont know if he just isnt atheltic enough, or its a footwork thing… maybe Shaq can train him…. there are just plays it just seems like he should go up with more power and dunk that shit, instead of this finesse crap.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
If he doesn’t listen to Kareem, he’s going to rebel against Shaq.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
Kareem is a dick, Shaq is cool, I think Shaq would work. But he is having too much fun at TNT right now.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
Bynum kills Deandre Jordan historically. Bynum’s breakout game was against DJ. Jordan started because Randolph, Camby and Kaman were all hurt. Ah, the good old days.
Michael White - January 12, 2012
Jordan killed Bynum in preseason though haha… guess thats just preseason.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
not quite
Bynum averaged 20.5 points, 11.5 rebounds, and 2 blocks in the 2 preseason games, and shot 61.5%
Jordan averaged 10.0 points, 6.5 boards, 3.5 blocks
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
hmmm, I guess all I can remember from the postseason is that sic ass jam Jordan did, on Bynum I think, or whoever it was… Why cant Bynum dunk like that??? haha
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
Guess how many people in the NBA have more dunks than Bynum this year
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
based on the question I’m saying 3
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
haha fuck it Eric, let me think what I want to think man…. who cares if im wrong haha…. ok who? Jordan, Griffin, and Howard?
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
Bynum has 14 dunks (in 8 games), tied with Jordan and three others for 9th in the NBA.
JaVale McGee leads with 23.
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
I thought Jordan retired
Josie Becker - January 12, 2012
No, he was just suspended for gambling
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
I’m guessing Kaman is not in the top 100 and that some point guards have more dunks then he does.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
DJ’s breakout game was also against the Lakers, it just so happened that while he was scoring his 23 on on 11 of 12 (97%), Bynum went for 42.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Right. I remember the slobber fest on CN the next day (trade Kaman immediately!) Nobody realized he gave it all back on the other end.
Michael White - January 12, 2012
whatever, I love our Jordan
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
I’ve come around to liking Jordan.
Michael White - January 12, 2012
I said he’d be hard pressed to compete in the 4th quarter during the early schedule. Lakers are playing a tough schedule and he didn’t have four games.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
After careful consideration, I pick….the Clippers
Michael White - January 12, 2012
madeleine and I are going to a bar to watch the game, if you and Phil or anyone else would like to come. Lakers fans included.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
Thanks for the invite. I’m actually going to be out of town, might miss the game altogether.
Michael White - January 12, 2012
I'll text you
(if the Lakers are winning)
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
I appreciate that
Michael White - January 12, 2012
I’m sure Miami rather not lose, but pissed about losing 2 regular season games? I dont think so…. I bet LeBron, Wade, and Bosh are all laughing about it right now while their smoking a big fat blunt of California’s finest.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
Whatever, I’d be pissed in a pickup game if I missed that many free throws and the game went into overtime.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
You shoot free throws in pick up games? :)
Michael White - January 12, 2012
ha ha
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
He calls guys for carrying the ball too.
Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache - January 12, 2012
pickup basketball
fun as long as you don’t end up having to guard the sweaty shirtless hairy guy.
Xeifrank - January 12, 2012
Yeah, my best friend had a nickname of the bear because of his hair. God I hated guarding him.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Along Came Phil
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
I’m as hairless as an old fuck could be.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
I’m sure Miami will be fine; it is just immensely fun watching them lose because normally teams wait until winning a championship before having their parade.
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
I agree with that
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
Unless something has changed, Bret Montgomery relies heavily on his splitter, not a slider. His splitter in college was one of the better pitches in the conference.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
Wouldn’t professional instruction count as something that has changed?
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
from the man himself
http://www.vcstar.com/news/2011/aug/20/montgomerys-relief-is-award-worthy/
maybe he still has his splitter too, he just didn’t mention it
Brandon Lennox - January 12, 2012
Never
thought I’d see the Ventura County Star sourced on here. Piece of shit newspaper, but I guess it does have its redeeming qualities.
Xeifrank - January 12, 2012
Aren’t they part of the Daily News network? Along with the San Bernardino Sun, et al. I often see articles of DN reporters (for Dodger coverage, for instance) in these other papers as well
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
Cool. I remember scouting him when he was in college and my scouting report was “good fastball in the high 80s, very good splitter, slider could be good but needs fine tuning”
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
Man, now Pacqiao’s team saying May 5th date doesnt make economic sense because some 45,000 area in Vegas wont be ready…wtf? I never heard about that..where is this arena and why was it never mentioned before?? .. go fight at the UNLV arena then….stop the excuses!
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
Boxing is dead; it just doesn’t know it.
kinbote - January 12, 2012
Friday Night Fights on ESPN2 are fun
Josie Becker - January 12, 2012
The original line substituted “tennis” for “boxing.”
kinbote - January 12, 2012
That’s stupid, you would make it all back in PPV buys. Cinco de Mayo is an enormous night for boxing.
Michael White - January 12, 2012
exactly Mike, Arum is getting ridiculous now. I guess he even tried to make a comment the other day that Mayweather already has a deal with Robert Guerrero, so Manny cant fight him. Now today comes out that Guerrero is not a possible opponent for Mayweather…. I say Fuck Bob Arum, he can kiss our asses, and Manny should man up and make this happen. Manny should say I want Mayweather, and only Mayweather, no matter where it is, just make the fight happen. Stop being Arum’s little bitch.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
The whole fight doesn’t make economic sense because they can make nearly the same amount of money while fighting much less risky opponents.
Just Jake - January 12, 2012
Gotta give the fans what they want to see…. and I realize they are in this business to make money, but I would think they also have pride and want to fight and beat the best…. I disagree a little about they make the same… they make alot of money fighting lessor opponents true, but they’d make a good amount more then usual with this fight… but maybe not.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
Also im done ordering Pacquiao or Mayweather fight til they fight eachother… actually I may be done altogether with ordering PPV anyways, but I wouldnt pay to see Pacqiao fight Marquez a 4th time, and all the other options are a joke IMO…. I wouldnt pay to see Mayweather beat the shit out of Canelo either, though I know alot of Mexicans will….. The options that are left out there for these guys to fight other then eachother is nil, the options suck, and arent worth paying to watch IMO.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
I admit, I will pay to see Mayweather beat the shit out of Canelo.
Michael White - January 12, 2012
Vogelsong
Giants signed Ryan Vogelsong going in to his third and last year of arbitration to one of “those” two year deals where the team buys out only the first year (club option for 2nd) of free agency. Here’s hoping the Dodgers don’t do the same with Loney.
Xeifrank - January 12, 2012
He’ll be their #4 starter. The Vogelsong/Harang match-ups will be scintillating.
kinbote - January 12, 2012
they are good comps
Last two seasons.
Vogelsong vs Harang
K/9: 6.99 vs 6.60
BB/9: 3.14 vs 3.03
GB/FB: 1.34 vs 0.96 << not a match here though
Xeifrank - January 12, 2012
Dodgers Hand Cardinals a Handke, Sweep NLDS Again
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
dude is 6’11 235? If he isn’t throwing 94+, he’s doing something wrong. Yeah, like big men shooting free throws, control is something that takes awhile to develop, but their stuff tends to be better. Ala Randy Johnson (i’m not saying all tall guys are Randy Johnson).
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
No, but in my mind they all should be. Like how could Mark Hendrickson only top out at 90? Those arms should be like bullwhips by nature?
Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache - January 12, 2012
Because Mark Hendrickson sucks.
kinbote - January 12, 2012
TIMBER!
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
Yet don’t most tall pitchers not throw very hard. Randy seems to be the exception. The norm seems to be
Chris Young
Hendrickson
A quick look at baseball ref shows only Randy and JR Richard among 15 pitchers > 80 inches who have pitched at least 200 major league innings who I’d consider hard throwers.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
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Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Jeff Nelson and Jon Rauch threw hard.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
If a Jeff Nelson 90 MPH fastball is throwing hard then OK
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1092&position=P
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
That damn funky delivery coming from the side always makes it seem harder
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
That data starts in 2002, when Nelson was already 36 years old. He threw 95-96 for the Yankees.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
Yep
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
Throwing as hard as he can!
mleadman - January 12, 2012
Rauch
also only throws 90
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1475&position=P
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
[fired]
Xeifrank - January 12, 2012
My assumption: more time as kids spent playing basketball instead of baseball.
I like the narrative, even if it’s not based on fact.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
My assumption is despite what one may expect by looking at someone physically, there’s no correlation between height and velocity.
Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache - January 12, 2012
Oswalt and Peavy give each other a fist bump
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
I think Tim hudson is like, 5’11
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
Lincecum is roughtly the size of Dennis Kucinich
Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache - January 12, 2012
Oswalt falls down and grabs his back, Peavey tears his labrum.
Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache - January 12, 2012
tears his labrum while snapping an ankle
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
Mark Prior hears the news and falls down the stairs.
kinbote - January 12, 2012
but his landing is softened by Clint Barmes’s deer meat
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
I will always rec any Rockies deer meat reference
Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache - January 12, 2012
nice
kinbote - January 12, 2012
suppose there is a level of athleticism that is required for someone that big to be coordinated enough to throw hard.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
uhhhh…Jansen? Really? Bueller?
Maddz - January 12, 2012
Brackman, even tho hes never really done anything. That guy throws hard
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
how tall is he?
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
6’6 possibly 6’7
never had a chance to stay at catcher
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
certainly counts as tall. Hell I consider anyone 6’4 or taller to be “tall”.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
Listed as 6’5" by the Dodgers FWIW
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
I think one of his baseball cards listed him at 6’3", but he is a mountain in person. I would have guessed about 6’6" or 6’7".
Nolij - January 12, 2012
Yeah everything I’ve checked says 6’5
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
maybe there is a spectrum whereby 6’3-6’6 or so helps with velocity but anything taller makes it difficult to generate leverage in time. Who knows.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
I’d think this is true, to much leg, not a good thing.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
I stood next to him and hes literally a foot taller than me and im about 5’6ish
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
My guess is that you are 5’5" then :)
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
are you built like a brickhouse?
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Im actually pretty wide ;)
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
I’m envisioning short and thick and strong as an ox
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
This is getting weird
BFDC - January 12, 2012
Honestly - how could anyone think Hubie Brown doesn't know every
rule, and everything else about NBA basketball.
Unlike baseball where the mute button is on my friend on National Telecasts, I love listening to Hubie and Shulman. In fact I’m not sure there is a NBA broadcast team I don’t like. Ex coach’s are great, even the ex players are decent, and they always get a solid professional play by play man.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
I was watching the Prime Ticket broadcast, but I thought that play was close. Could have gone either way, but I didn’t definitely see the ball going down.
As Mike Smith brought up, fuck it, Lebron travelled and the game should have been over anyway.
Michael White - January 12, 2012
maybe it was just his crab dribble
BFDC - January 12, 2012
I am a Hubie fan as well
When he was explaining his reasoning for the no goaltending, it was understandable. He’s looking at the replay to first see if it went off the board (automatic goaltending) and yeah, not every ball on its way down is goaltending if the ref doesn’t think it has a chance of going in (nobody calls goaltend when a short shot/pass is caught before but above the rim but had no trajectory possible that would have made it.
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
As long as you don't have to look at him
He’s starting to go Al Davis on us.
mleadman - January 12, 2012
Either he was explaining it really badly or he didn’t know the rule. So either way he screwed up.
fbihop - January 12, 2012
He’s no NFL ref. /josie
kinbote - January 12, 2012
An NBA color commentator is paid solely for explaining things in a concise fashion, though.
fbihop - January 12, 2012
If everyone is referring to that jump hook by Bosh
that was blocked by Jordan late in the game, Hubie could simply have been poorly explaining (by omission) that it was such a line drive of a shot that it wasn’t really going downward by the time DJ blocked it.
The Dude Abides - January 12, 2012
The strangest play last nigh was the Wade missed dunk where he hung on the rim and then the ball went in
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
I thought the rule was not that it has to look like it will go in, but that it looks like it will draw iron.
David Young - January 12, 2012
Gary
Sent you a mail
Tommy Blackjack - January 12, 2012 via iPhone app
Why dont you text message him…. im sure you got his number
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
Ditto
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
Domincan questions...
They run a separate spring training in the Dominican Republic for Dodger players there, correct?
Players picked from the Dominican League team to play with the rookie ball team in Arizona, do they go immediately to extended spring training, or just arrive when the rookie season starts?
latenite - January 12, 2012
They have a Dominican Academy of sorts
which is where they hold their own version of a spring training. I’m sure it starts later since the DSL season doesn’t start until the end of May.
For international players that are picked to play in the Arz Rookie League for the upcoming season, I would guess they get to come to the regular spring training at the same time as all the other minor league players who are going to play in US based leagues
Brandon Lennox - January 12, 2012
Thanks Brandon!
latenite - January 12, 2012
2013 BCS Championship Odds
LSU 7/2
Alabama 5/1
Oklahoma 8/1
Oregon 8/1
USC 8/1
Georgia 12/1
.
.
Stanford 100/1
UC Berkeley 200/1
Arizona 200/1
UCLA 200/1
Wash St 200/1
Utah 200/1
ASU 200/1
Xeifrank - January 12, 2012
Can’t believe you left out Wisconsin
They actually came within three plays of having an undefeated season.
Ball will be balling in 2013
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
If you saw Wisconsin, you’ve said it all
Josie Becker - January 12, 2012
60/1 odds for them (Gambling odds, NSFW)
Xeifrank - January 12, 2012
Losing a quarterback always hurts
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
Must be some other sucky baseball prospect who has finally realized he can’t hit a curve ball and is ready for the easier sport:)
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Peter Vecsey in the NY Post:
No idea if it was one for one or not, but it sounds like it since it never got off the ground.
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
Hell yes I would have tried to do that, if I were the Lakers.
Michael White - January 12, 2012
If the Lakers could someone turn Gasol and something into Love and Rubio, it would not shock me since it is the Lakers. That would be a fun team to watch.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
I don’t know much about basketball but isn’t K-Love a beast?
kinbote - January 12, 2012
This seems like offering A-Rod for Evan Longoria.
regfairfield - January 12, 2012
No, more like Zimmerman for Longoria
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
ha, i was just typing “it’s like David Wright for Sandoval”.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
Can we please play “Who is the Kevin Love of MLB?”
kinbote - January 12, 2012
Id say votto but he already won mvp.. and maybe Im just making that connection because he’s white.
hee came hee seop'd he choi'd - January 12, 2012
I’d try to find a player who:
1. Fills up the stat sheet
2. Plays for one of the worse teams in baseball
3. Is still < 25
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
is mccutcheon younger than 25?
hee came hee seop'd he choi'd - January 12, 2012
nice one
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
Mike Stanton
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Billy Butler
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Eric Hosmer
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
was gonna guess this too
hee came hee seop'd he choi'd - January 12, 2012
so, Tim Lincecum.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
Kershaw
/ducks
Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache - January 12, 2012
I was surprised at how well Love shoots the three. Can he play PF/C (both) positions easily?
Xeifrank - January 12, 2012
I’d say PF only
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Little undersized for C, though it would be an interesting one since on offense he tends to play away from the basket more than most big men, which may well wreak havoc on the other teams defense (forcing the defending C out of position).
EMDarrow - January 12, 2012
yeah I heard about this awhile ago…. maybe they were hoping Wolves wanted to team Gasol up with Rubio.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
I'm guessing the only reason this was discussed
is because there have been reports that the T’Wolves might not want to lock him up long term.
BFDC - January 12, 2012
I wonder if Lakers could get Andre Miller from Denver.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
Please do this, so I can whatever Laker thread I currently have
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
so you can what?
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
cut
not sure there is a player in the NBA I dislike more then Andre Miller. Based on how many teams he’s been bouncing around with since his Cleveland days GM’s must agree.
Not sure how that old POS is an upgrade over Blake.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
i think you a word
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
Feels like every NBA team has 2 or 3 PGs that are better then any 1 PG we have, how can it be hard to get a good PG up in here dammit, fuck.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
mlbtraderumors top ten remaining FAs
•Prince Fielder
•Edwin Jackson
•Hiroki Kuroda
•Carlos Pena
•Roy Oswalt
•Javier Vazquez
•Bartolo Colon
•Jeff Francis
•Casey Kotchman
•Johnny Damon
•Honorable mentions – Joe Saunders and Yoenis Cespedes
kinbote - January 12, 2012
Still four solid pitchers
As a NL GM I would rather sign Vazquez to a one year deal then EJ to a five year deal.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
If Vasquez insists on playing for the East Coast like he usually does is there anywhere left for him to go? Maybe the Nats if they miss out on Prince?
regfairfield - January 12, 2012
I was thinking the Nat’s.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
But why wouldn’t the Marlins simply ante up for him? They are only treading water if they simply replace him with Buehle. The dude was just about the best right handed NL pitcher in the 2nd half last year and has a history of simply being above average in the NL.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Don’t the Marlins already have a full rotation? Johnson, Buerhle, Zambrano, Nolasco. I know I am missing someone.
OB12 - January 12, 2012
Sanchez?
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
Anibal. At this point I would have a problem kicking Nolasco out and getting what you can from a team that believes his ERA will ever meet his peripherals.
regfairfield - January 12, 2012
Wouldn’t.
regfairfield - January 12, 2012
Thought you were going there.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
He’s the anti sleeper. Everyone knows about him so he gets drafted way too early and then sucks.
regfairfield - January 12, 2012
Yeah, that is probably the right move. Sign Vazquez and trade Nolasco for something.
OB12 - January 12, 2012
Your counting on Zambrano?
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Your counting on Zambrano?
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
To fill a back of the rotation spot, sure, why not.
OB12 - January 12, 2012
I think a change of scenery will be huge for him.
regfairfield - January 12, 2012
Plus, even though we don’t know yet, but isn’t the thinking that the Marlins new park is going to play as a pitcher’s park?
OB12 - January 12, 2012
How many of them are Boras guys? all of them?
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
Fielder, Jackson, Pena, Damon for sure
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
I'd really like to see Vazquez play at least another year
He’s been a favorite of mine for a long, long time.
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
He can choke on Phil Rivers’ breakfast
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
highest OPS+ from someone < 25 years old in 2011 was …………………(100 games minimum)
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Justin Upton?
Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache - January 12, 2012
Nope
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Chipper
nolander - January 12, 2012
< 25
Not < 45
EMDarrow - January 12, 2012
so doesnt have to be a dodger then? well shit that could be anyone…. If Reg doesnt know it, then im going to guess nobody does.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
I don’t know anything if I can’t look it up.
regfairfield - January 12, 2012
Stanton?
OB12 - January 12, 2012
Noe
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
we like to make fun of his gif.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Sandoval?
Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache - January 12, 2012
Yes
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Morse?
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
Mike Morse (or is he 26?)
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
29
Tommy Blackjack - January 12, 2012 via iPhone app
’86 Topps, ugliest cards of all time?
Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache - January 12, 2012
Lance Berkman is no spring chicken
Josie Becker - January 12, 2012
How dare you.
I always though 1987 Topps were uglier. I enjoy them for nostalgia though.
The 1986 Topps were quite plain, I’ll give you that.
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
I liked the wood look. And the colorful ‘Future Stars’ flourish. And I loved the photo they chose for McGwire, just his back in his stance.
I had it in for dark borders, could never keep them from flaking.
Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache - January 12, 2012
I agree, I liked the 87 better than 86
BFDC - January 12, 2012
I didn’t like the design in 1988 much, or 1989 for that matter, but since the 1989 set had the World Series winning Dodgers in it I gave it a pass :)
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
The Bowman reissues can f off. Try to make me buy new pages for my binder.
Not baseball, but the initial Hoops set were ugly as hell. The Skybox original set were really pretty.
Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache - January 12, 2012
Agreed
I hate any card that isn’t standard sized
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
I remember thinking 89 was very “modern”. Like it was ushering in the new era of cards. Then those 89 Upper Decks came out and I was like whoaa
BFDC - January 12, 2012
13 year old me was sure I was gonna retire on my stash of a dozen Griffey Jr. Upper Decks.
Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache - January 12, 2012
That was the biggest prize back then. Way more valuable than real money.
BFDC - January 12, 2012
Lance Berkman is no spring chicken
Josie Becker - January 12, 2012
Do they still sell sports cards? I miss collecting cards… is it like 20 bucks a pack now?
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
Yes
No
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
Yes.
Depends.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
Luke Scott got $6 million guaranteed from Tampa, per Marc Topkin. Scott gets $5 million in 2012, and a $6 million club option in 2013 with a $1 million buyout.
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
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Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
So maybe Alex Avila is really the most valuable young player in baseball? (Yes I know Avila had lower WAR due to negative D values, but still he is a CATCHER)
BFDC - January 12, 2012
If he can repeat that succes, sure, but I would not bet on it. Smelled fluke to me.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
.366 babip seems high
HEY XEI WHATS HIS X-BABIP
nolander - January 12, 2012
2.834
wtf does that even mean
nolander - January 12, 2012
Anything over .350 is gonna come down unless you’re one of the great contact hitters in the league.
Anything over .370 is better than Rod Carew in his prime.
regfairfield - January 12, 2012
Here is the
online calculator. Someone feel free to plug in the numbers and report back to the group on their findings. Two page double spaced report would be fine.
Xeifrank - January 12, 2012
I tried a spreadsheet one
and got 2.834. I don’t think thats right
nolander - January 12, 2012
with footnotes
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
Avila has already been sprinkled with Tommy Lasorda godfather fairy dust. He’s legit
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
He needs to do that again.
regfairfield - January 12, 2012
True
BFDC - January 12, 2012
He was nowhere to be found in the postseason.
kinbote - January 12, 2012
didn’t he have a busted shoulder?
hee came hee seop'd he choi'd - January 12, 2012
and bad knees
kinbote - January 12, 2012
and his B12 shots stopped helping
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
is there a way
to get access to fbihops playlist?
funkyjam - January 12, 2012
1) Drive to Albuquerque
2) Have awesome chili, perhaps a burger too
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
3) enjoy lower gravity environment
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
4) buy meth
Josie Becker - January 12, 2012
two comments today pushing drugs
We’re gonna get raided soon
Tommy Blackjack - January 12, 2012 via iPhone app
and then we’ll be pushing daisies
Josie Becker - January 12, 2012
damn right
The fuzz ain’t taking me alive. Not going back to prison.
Tommy Blackjack - January 12, 2012 via iPhone app
I still like the Onion blurb
“At-At Walker first place cops looked for hidden drugs”
kinbote - January 12, 2012
weed isnt a drug… its a plant, a plant that if you just so happen to set on fire, causes side effects.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
Opium is also a plant.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
what does his name mean anyways? does he work for FBI? or IHOP? been wondering for awhile now…. maybe he is an undercover FBI agent at IHOP… sweet!
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
he’s a news reporter in ABQ
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
I should put it on dropbox. First I need to get a dropbox account.
fbihop - January 12, 2012
FYI
Mike MOrse is 29
Might be the Casey Blake of this decade.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
I NEVER would have guessed he was that old
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
He was a SS with the Mariners a long time ago.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Strange but true
Danny Tartabull used to play 2b for the Mariners
kinbote - January 12, 2012
Jimmy Wynn came up as a SS for the Colt 45’s.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
True story
I saw Danny Tartabull on an episode of Seinfeld something like that 5-7 years ago, and I thought he was a made up player just for the show. Then a few years ago when I was searching through stats and saw his name I laughed quite a bit.
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
That’s why Van Slyke needs a chance!
Tommy Blackjack - January 12, 2012 via iPhone app
Loney’s blocking him!
kinbote - January 12, 2012
power is so difficult to predict, i’ve come to a “i’ll believe it when i see it” with power prospects. Speed and pitching are much more fun for me at this point.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
I don’t really see him as a power prospect. If we’re lucky he’ll be a cheaper right handed Loney
BFDC - January 12, 2012
It’s great being the Pirates
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
it’s kind of strange not wanting us to spend 160-180mil, but not being happy with the constraints of a 120mil payroll either.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
I’d be very happy with a 120 Million if I was the one who created it:)
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
I’d be happy with the 120mil payroll if 22 of it wasn’t going to non-Dodgers.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
I was going to say Van Slyke could be our Lucas Duda but facts kept getting in the way.
1. He has yet to play AAA, in 2010 Duda destroyed the International League
2. He’s already 25 so even if he somehow busts out in 2012 at 26 he’s already above the cut
3. He’s right handed, for some reason I can buy into a 26 year old left handed first baseman, but not a 26 year old right handed 1st baseman who has never played above AA ball.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
SVS played in AAA
Just not very much
Tommy Blackjack - January 12, 2012 via iPhone app
38 plate appearances does not count diddly doo
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
It’s still not “never”
Tommy Blackjack - January 12, 2012 via iPhone app
are you playing the irritating Nolander role today since he’s taking the day off playing video games?
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
am I being that irritating?
Because I’m not trying to be
Tommy Blackjack - January 12, 2012 via iPhone app
I wish
nolander - January 12, 2012
I’m pretty sure a 1.000 OPS in the IL translates to like a 1.450 OPS in the PCL.
Duda also started his career 1 for 37 so the odds of the Dodgers giving that guy a chance are near zero.
regfairfield - January 12, 2012
Yeah, it was an impressive season in 2010.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
He’d still be buried if not for the Ike Davis injury
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
They should give him a parade.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
Zippety
kinbote - January 12, 2012
Yes, around the Camptown race track.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
At this point, I don’t really care about the age that much other than looking back in historical context. Seems like he will get a shot soon and he’s either going to hit or he’s not.
BFDC - January 12, 2012
I am with this line of thinking. Age is good for context but I don’t like writing someone off just because they happen to be 25 or 26. It seems like he is pretty close, so let’s see if he pans out.
OB12 - January 12, 2012
He’s struggled the first year at every level. I don’t see the Dodgers being patient enough to deal with his struggles. I can’t ignore age, what is the big deal about a 25 year old destroying AA?
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Our LFs suck
nolander - January 12, 2012
Do they – why would anyone think Van Slyke has a better future then Jerry Sands?
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Left Field Depth Chart:
Juan Rivera
Jerry Sands
Tony Gwynn Junior
Trent Aussie
Alfredo Silverio
Scott Van Slyke
Alex Castle
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Or I should say if his upside is cheap cost controlled version of James Loney, that is not going to help the Dodgers win any games unless he’s the 2006/2007/Aug 2011 model.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Why do say that? If SVS could put up Loney-like numbers and Sands could be a decent option in the OF, it would free up considerable resources to spend on a FA. Only problem is next year’s FAs suck.
OB12 - January 12, 2012
Yadier!
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
Guess I’m not much of a believer that a lousy first baseman no matter how cheap can get you a World Championship, though the Rays and Rangers gave it a good shot.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Agree. not without elite rotations and/or offensive position players elsewhere
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
His last name
Michael White - January 12, 2012
Well he did destroy it harder than any other 25 year old.
But you regress his BABIP to .350 he’s down to .263/.349/.510 which puts him in the company of Ryan Flaherty, Matt Rizzotti and Earnesto Meija.
regfairfield - January 12, 2012
What was his LD%?
OB12 - January 12, 2012
18 with the caveats of minor league spotters.
No one can BABIP .405.
regfairfield - January 12, 2012
Actually that’s generous he’s more of a Cody Overbeck, Christian Marrerro, Tyler Kuhn kinda guy.
regfairfield - January 12, 2012
yeah, the only thing age means is he’ll be 31 when he gets through arbitration years, so we’ll have him for much less time and he won’t be the next great anything
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
Not sure how age cannot be relevant.
How many good major league hitters repeated A, A+, and AA, and then became productive major league hitters? Sometimes they get stuck at AAA due to blockage but repeating these leagues means one thing, they sucked the first time.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
It is apparently not relevant when it fits your narrative :)
Nolij - January 12, 2012
always have to consider the narrative
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
The narrative narrative is gaining traction. Where’s D. Young when you need him?
kinbote - January 12, 2012
Weren’t you the same person who was arguing for and compiling lists of all the late bloomers? Or was that meercat?
BFDC - January 12, 2012
Yes, late bloomers exist, the Blake’s and Berroa’s have made their mark.
I’m not arguing that Van Slyke cannot put up Loney’s numbers, my point is this team needs more than the having the worst offensive 1st baseman playing for us to compete in the post season.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Well that is probably true but is a total divergence from how this thread started.
BFDC - January 12, 2012
True,
Until Scott Van SLyke proves to me he can hit I’m an unbeliever. I don’t like multiple level repeaters before AAA. If he ends up being able to hit left hand pitching at a decent clip I would not be surprised, if he proves capable of hitting right hand major league pitching enough to stay in a lineup on an every day basis I will be shocked beyond belief.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Right, my original comment was we"ll be lucky if he is a cheaper right-handed Loney. I guess he could also play OF and be a utility-type if he can hit at all.
BFDC - January 12, 2012
I wish he was left handed like his father.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
I wish he was
left handed likehis father.kinbote - January 12, 2012
Got the right
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
I did this when Scott Van Slykes’ biggest fan was around.
In the last 20 years there’s four types of players who can start a big league career at age 26 and be successful
A) Scrappy dudes (Eckstein is the best example here)
B) Japanese players
C) Drug Addicts
D) Dan Uggla
There’s a decent group of dudes that put together a couple good years and dissapared (Termel Sledge, Chris Singleton) but corner guys that don’t even touch the bigs until 26 pan out maybe once a decade.
regfairfield - January 12, 2012
you forgot the biggest group, catchers
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Even then that’s only three guys in the last 20 years (Lo Duca, Ruiz, Damien Miller) unless we’re counting Paul Bako and Matt Treanor.
regfairfield - January 12, 2012
SVS looks just like Uggla
BFDC - January 12, 2012
Besides his age 26 season will be in AAA, isn’t the real question what kind of players start their major league career at age 27:)
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Wasn’t last year his age 24 season? He’s 25 going into this year I think
BFDC - January 12, 2012
He’s the youngest 25 possible in baseball years.
regfairfield - January 12, 2012
Good thing age is not relevant
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
….
Maddz - January 12, 2012
Not really answering your post, but I distinctly remember having these age discussions regarding Dee Gordon last year around this time. Many were saying he was too old for the leagues he played in. Grant it, he still has a ways to go to cement himself, but right now he seems to have worked out.
OB12 - January 12, 2012
That would be incorrect, Dee Gordon is and has been at his age level since he was drafted.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
He might be thinking Sands?
Michael White - January 12, 2012
OK, sorry. I guess the contention was that he would be 24 or so by the time he reached the bigs, which for some reason was too old. Obviously he made it sooner than that.
OB12 - January 12, 2012
Morosi tweets
“at the moment” Dodgers are not involved in Fielder sweepstakes. Thank you Jon.
Tommy Blackjack - January 12, 2012 via iPhone app
“A source familiar with negotiations says there are no negotiations”
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
I’ll be honest, I know he is not going to be our 1B on OD, but I am going to be a bit deflated when he actually signs with someone.
OB12 - January 12, 2012
Nats/Royals 2014 WS will be awesome!
kinbote - January 12, 2012
I’m waiting for Withrow to be too old for his league in 2015 and finally dominate
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
skippers are a different animal
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
I predict Withrow will come up by June this year and do really well in the 5th spot in the rotation, and he forces Rubby to the bullpen for the rest of the year
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
Obviously when Rubby gets back.
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
Is he going to replace Billingsley?
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Harang starts out 10-1 at the break, gets traded to DET with Eovaldi for Castellanos :)
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
If Harang starts out 10 – 1aren’t we the guys trading our prospects for a post season charge?
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
nah, we’ll have Lilly and Capuano at 2-8 each
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
10-1?
We have a great offense :)
Tommy Blackjack - January 12, 2012 via iPhone app
Have to account for injuries
Just gotta hope it’s not Kershaw or Billingsley (his big year WILL happen in 2012).
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
Rubby won’t be back until at least July, and he was slotted to start in the bullpen at that point anyway.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
If he starts a game for the Dodgers before Sept it will be a surprise
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Agreed.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
What are you all going to do with your facebook millions?
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Shouldn’t we be more excited about Albert Silverio?
Anyway the highlight from the HQ scouting report is the main concern about Van Slyke:
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
He can't play the OF at the major league level?
nolander - January 12, 2012
He’s played hundreds of minor league games in the OF. Hard to believe he couldn’t play LF.
kinbote - January 12, 2012
I’m sure Edgar Martinez played a lot of 3B in the minors.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
The hit tool was strong with that one.
kinbote - January 12, 2012
His minor league numbers are not real impressive actually.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
I've always been told they DHd him because of injury concerns
nolander - January 12, 2012
Also, Mike Blowers was better defensively. If you figure they wanted their two bats in the lineup, you put the better glove on the field. I think at that point, he just kinda got stuck there.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
Hard to picture anyone whose so bad on defense that Mike Blowers is an upgrade.
EMDarrow - January 12, 2012
1996
I wonder if we’d be satisfied if Uribe put up Blowers’ line with us: .265/.341/.394
That .341 looks awfully high :)
kinbote - January 12, 2012
OPS+ed 100. I think that was what we were hoping for from Uribe, but weighted a little more to SLUG.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
Since when do the Dodgers value power at the 1B position?
BFDC - January 12, 2012
Bud Selig was at Camelback Ranch when Dave & I were there
From March 20:
MLB just announced that Selig has signed an extension through 2014.
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
He’s sticking around simply to hand his hand picked Dodger owner the World Championship Trophy
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
I wonder if he feels he has to be around for the restructuring of the divisions/schedules and revised playoffs. Hard to just hand that off.
kinbote - January 12, 2012
He probably loves his job, why retire, isn’t this a great gig?
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Also, $22 million a year ain’t bad
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
He’s the Mark Teixeira of commissioners.
kinbote - January 12, 2012
Sooner or later, don’t you want to spend a few of the accumulated millions in the time that remains to you? If you’re just earning it to pass it on, maybe not.
berkowit28 - January 12, 2012
Lil Wayne always said, too much money aint enough money.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
Lil Wayne also said he has money so old, its growing white hair…. that must be awesome to have money that old!
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
He also said the feds is watching….N*** what money?
VeroJoe - January 12, 2012
Thats what im saying, he gets over 20 mil a year, use of a private jet, im sure MLB pays for all his hotel stays and food and anything he does right? Yeah I wouldnt retire either
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
The elbow patches on his jackets don’t pay for themselves!
Nolij - January 12, 2012
Probably gets a massive haircut allowance too, which he has obviously pocketed.
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
A cross between Bill Gates and Smithers.
kinbote - January 12, 2012
It pays well too.
kinbote - January 12, 2012
By that logic
there will always be something going on that requires the attention of the commisioners office.
Michael White - January 12, 2012
true
kinbote - January 12, 2012
maybe
nolander - January 12, 2012
The Owners must love him, Selig really turned shit around after the strike.
but seriously, fuck Bud Selig
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
consider that the value of the Dodgers franchise alone has tripled in 7 years.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
Still think Paul Giamatti should be commissioner. Thomas Hayden Church would be in charge of the ostrich races.
jim hitchcock (railway) - January 12, 2012
Another Big Fat Liar as commissioner makes sense.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
Frankie Muniz will not stand for this
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
How could you tell if he is standing?
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
“It’s a little early in the morning for that . . .”
kinbote - January 12, 2012
1st round of NBA allstar votes have C-Bynum, F- Durant, Griffin, G- Bryant, Paul in the lead…. I assume this would be 1st time ever 2 Lakers and 2 Clippers started in an Allstar game? If it holds up ofcourse….. Too bad this wasnt last year with ASG in LA.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
This would be the first time a Clipper (let alone two) started in an all star game
Michael White - January 12, 2012
really? man I didnt know that….I guess Danny Manning didnt start then, who have they had in an ASG?
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
Griffin and Kaman the past two years. Before that, Brand.
Michael White - January 12, 2012
Elton Brand, Blake Griffin last year… Was ’Nique an All-Star that one year? Terry Cummings or somebody like that?
Nolij - January 12, 2012
Bob Macadoo wasnt an allstar? I see he was an MVP as a Clipper.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
Buffalo Braves
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
haha yeah I just realized that… crazy.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
Buffalo Brave, I believe, who became Clippers later.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
We’re pushing it now. That’s Buffalo
Michael White - January 12, 2012
well, wikipedia still counts it on their LA Clipper page…. we count out Minneapolis titles, so guys can have that.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
What you mean “we,” white man?
Nolij - January 12, 2012
our*
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
Entire franchise All-Star list
LA
Blake Griffin 2011
Chris Kaman 2010
Elton Brand 2006
Elton Brand 2002
Danny Manning 1993,1994
Marques Johnson 1986
Norm Nixon 1985
SD
World B. Free 1980
Buffalo
Randy Smith 1976, 1978
Bob McAdoo 1974, 1975, 1976
Bob Kauffman 1971, 1972, 1973
Starters in bold
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
holy shit, so there really was a guy named World B Free? Was it Artest’s dad? So what Artest did is really nothing original then.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
This is the first you’ve heard of World B. Free?
fbihop - January 12, 2012
I believe so to be honest… sounds like a NYC street court legend or something. What was his name before that?
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
Lloyd
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
A spiritual descendant of Carrie A. Nation.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
World B. Lloyd
mleadman - January 12, 2012
And after I mentioned him in my super long Tumblr post on NY Times courtesy titles…
fbihop - January 12, 2012
World B was the shits
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Chan Ho Park’s favorite player.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
Pretty much
-Wikipedia
Michael White - January 12, 2012
World B. Free 1980.. seriou..
oh never mind
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
It’s pretty rare that the Clippers have even had All-Stars selected. Definitely a high point in Clippers stardom.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
just saw a couple of Shakin tweets in MLBTR
Brewers offered Fielder a one year deal, but Boras didn’t bite on it. Also McCourt laughed off interest in Prince saying “we’re not gonna talk about that.”
Tommy Blackjack - January 12, 2012 via iPhone app
I wouldn’t take a one year deal either but I really wanna see Prince return and cram it up the Cardinals cram holes
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
I would, other then the injury problem, kind of the best of both worlds.
Brewers with Prince still a good bet to get to World Series
Dodgers next year might have a new owner who wants to make an impact after finishing in last place.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
That’s a good thought.
OB12 - January 12, 2012
I'd bet Phil the usual
that the Dodgers don’t finish in last place.
bhsportsguy - January 12, 2012
You’d have to give me 10 – 1 odds
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Love Prince, love his swing and I personally think hes not that bad on defense
Hes had some a couple meh seasons( I would take them 7 days a week) If he has one of the those season.. his value is fucked
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
Prince is on the every other year plan too. he alternates between a .850 OPS and a 1.000 OPS
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
are he and Kemp in synch or out of synch? Would it be better to be in synch and have one massive year from the two or out of synch so that at least one is hitting on all cylinders?
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
they are N*Sync
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
i’d rather have them all be in sync.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
If they’re out of sync we win 84 games a year instead of 81.
If they’re in sync you can an absolutely filthy team every other year.
regfairfield - January 12, 2012
If they’re *NSYNC, then we might win 98º games.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
Well played
Michael White - January 12, 2012
And come October, we’d all be in O Town.
Does that make Sandusky one of the Backstree Boys?
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
Unless he gets it 2Ge+her, he’ll be a New Kid on the (Cell) Block.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
If they are out of sync, we’ll just be Another Bad Creation.
OB12 - January 12, 2012
NL Central
would be amazing if Prince signed with the Brewers. STL, CIN, MIL would be quite a fight for first.
Xeifrank - January 12, 2012
I’m not on the Red bandwagon. Not sure why anyone is. Latos is going to change them for a .500 team to a postseason contender?
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Votto doesn’t have the pressure of Alonso breathing down his neck and can finally break out of his shell :)
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
Latos, Marshall, Madson
One of the best bullpens in MLB now plus Latos kicks a crappy pitcher out of their rotation. Using last years win totals as a baseline is not the way to go. Better to just start from scratch with this years team and use your method of choice to come up with a over/under win number. My sim is at 87+ for them as is.
Xeifrank - January 12, 2012
They really need a shortstop for me to get behind them. That whole left side of the field could be real bad.
regfairfield - January 12, 2012
Cozart
Hopefully his shoulder is healthy. Fine SS youngster.
Xeifrank - January 12, 2012
Then your sim is broken
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Actually 87 seems right, that is still not a postseason record. Cardinals will still win by five games.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
yes, Cardinals are 5 or more wins better – depending on health. 87+ is the best 2nd place record in my 2012 seasonal sims in the NL. In reality some team outperforms their true talent level and wins more, but that is unpredictable shit.
Xeifrank - January 12, 2012
I guess the Braun 50 game suspension has something to do with this?
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
I haven’t heard anything more on that — has anything happened with Braun?
Maddz - January 12, 2012
appealing still
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
Meh. Matt Kemp is more appealing.
David Young - January 12, 2012
’twas a close shave.
kinbote - January 12, 2012
Yeah, that is still a big unknown as is who Fielder signs with. My numbers are fluid. I am on revision #16 with all the signings and trades. Dodgers are slowly slipping… now below XX wins.
Xeifrank - January 12, 2012
Man I’m down on the team but I still think they won’t lose 140.
regfairfield - January 12, 2012
Just eyeballing, i’d put the Nat’s in the wild card hunt if they sign Prince. Course I’d say the same if we signed him, or the Rockies, or the Giants, or the Braves, or the Marlins
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
I like the get of Marshal, not sold on the rotation, Latos will have to step up big which he could do for me to believe they can compete for the postseason but have to admit I forgot about the Braun suspension.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
they were good last season IMO. just a bit of bad luck, maybe some Dusty Baker mixed in
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
I like the term “cram holes”
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
"cram it up your cram hole La Fleur"
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
McCourt is playing coy, a deal must imminent!
OB12 - January 12, 2012
There’s a lot of chatter today.
kinbote - January 12, 2012
Funny, delias man texted me saying the same thing
Michael White - January 12, 2012
Did he blink demurely, look down and drag his heels along the ground?
underdog - January 12, 2012
NBA trivia
name the last Clipper to start an All-Star Game
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
Danny Manning.
David Young - January 12, 2012
Nobody
Michael White - January 12, 2012
I didn’t say LA Clipper
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
Columbus Clipper Phil Hughes
kinbote - January 12, 2012
He did say
thoughDavid Young - January 12, 2012
San Diego Clipper World B Free?
Michael White - January 12, 2012
Walton?
David Young - January 12, 2012
Yes
1980
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
Benoit Benjamin
kinbote - January 12, 2012
Benoit?
BFDC - January 12, 2012
BTW, last = only in this case
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
If #139 makes it
Eric will be ceaseless with the U2 puns. If only we had a Bono in the system too.
David Young - January 12, 2012
We have a Clayton.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
Their rhythm section is kind of generic. Our Clayton is not.
David Young - January 12, 2012
Atlanta’s Rhythm Section is pretty good.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
Spooky good.
David Young - January 12, 2012
The Boys from Doraville, I’ll drink (champange) to that.
jim hitchcock (railway) - January 12, 2012
Reminder
please put subjects with pictures (or massive, take up the whole screen posts)
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
sry
BFDC - January 12, 2012
Not going to post the pics but the Giants are going back to a 1980s road alternate in 2012. Has piping down the center.
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
Kinda like the Colorado ones (assuming the COLO is on the right and the RADO is on the left and not with the O patch split like it is in the pic). Don’t like just the logo on left breast, especially when it’s the Gnats logo.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
Yankees, Tigers?
Josie Becker - January 12, 2012
Never cared for those. The Yankees pinstripes are pretty classic though.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
When I was a little kid, I liked the Detroit one. This would be the McLain, Lolich days. The waning of Al Kaline. Willie Horton the baseball player, not the ex-con.
David Young - January 12, 2012
Al Kaline was my Dad’s favorite player growing up
VeroJoe - January 12, 2012
My dad’s favorite kind of battery.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
That’s pretty good.
kinbote - January 12, 2012
two road greys? That’s just silly
Josie Becker - January 12, 2012
Eric Gordon hurt again
Kaman being Kaman
Aminu proving Michael White right this time
Timberwolves look like they have a the making of a team who won’t be a top five lottery pick
Chris Paul
Thank You
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Eric Gordon hurt again
Kaman being Kaman
Aminu proving Michael White right this time
Timberwolves look like they have a the making of a team who won’t be a top five lottery pick
Chris Paul
Thank You David Stern
FTFY
BFDC - January 12, 2012
Minnesota in bottom 5 now. tied for 4th worst record… its only been 10 games, cant jump to conclusions…. besides, Paul is the other knee away from being brandon roy.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
Is that your expert medical opinion doctor?
Michael White - January 12, 2012
it’s not a laker, so he’s doomed.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
Is that what he has? Paul had the same surgery to his knee Roy did, except Roy had it in both knees and thats why he is retired? Thats what ive read experts say… ok, not experts, the media
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
Roy had it multiple times
CP3 will be fine
Tommy Blackjack - January 12, 2012 via iPhone app
I still find it funny that when Paul was going to be a Laker it was all Championship talk and no mention of the knee. The day he becomes a Clipper, Josie and world start talking about his knee as though he DID NOT play the whole season last year.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
I disagee it was all Championship talk….it was all Championship talk because people assumed Howard would be coming too.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
I heard some concern from Laker fans
Tommy Blackjack - January 12, 2012 via iPhone app
and I am a DR thank you…. Hello my name is Dr Green Thumb.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
You run that “hydroponics” place on Chatsworth?
David Young - January 12, 2012
haha, no, the one next to the fish store right? I always wonder about that place… does it really sell enough equipment to stay open? How many people buy that stuff? but I guess so, thats why its still open.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
it’s a front :)
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
growing weed at home supports many a hydroponic business in the valley
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
And the Westside. And the OC. I would have added the IE and the High Desert, but there is stiff competition with the “cooking utensil” businesses there.
David Young - January 12, 2012
psst. it’s everywhere.
kinbote - January 12, 2012
(and you can put your WEED in there)
Nolij - January 12, 2012
They look like a team who will get better as the season progresses. I’m saying that as someone who has not seen them play but anytime you stick in a new PG who has skills I think it takes time to jell.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
I agree.
Michael White - January 12, 2012
Aminu is doing well or poorly?
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
Single digit PER, FTW!
Michael White - January 12, 2012
I don’t know what that means. Sounds bad.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
It’s a small sample size, but ya, that sucks.
Michael White - January 12, 2012
PER is a Hollinger stat, Hollinger doesnt know shit haha…. im jk.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
Eating Red Robin for lunch
next step is deciding what burger
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
royal red robin burger
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
There’s really no debate.
Michael White - January 12, 2012
Should just leave and pick up a couple
of Der Wiernerschinizel Chili Dogs
bhsportsguy - January 12, 2012
chili dogs are a buck right now
go for glory
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
anyone buying $1 chilli dogs pretty much deserves to spend the day on the crapper
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Im actually on a diet
been eating nothing but homemade Turkey meatballs, grilled chicken and pounding V8 fruit juices
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
trying to add weight?
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
Or just stand upright.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
just sounds like a shitton of protein.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
it is
but I am actually burning calories and expelling energy.. something I haven’t done in about 8 years
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
no, I have actually lost 10 pounds since doing it. My blood pressure is completely fucked and im 24, so its now or never.
I like to walk at night but its freezing outside
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
congrats buddy! Keep up the good work
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
ty
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
do you not like vegetables?
not trying to be a dick, sincerely asking
Maddz - January 12, 2012
no worries
because you’re right
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
so that's a no on veggies
protein is good for you, though I’d suggest you mix in some sort of cardio or exercise…and maybe try to force down certain vegetables. they will speed up the process.
Maddz - January 12, 2012
I walk at night usually
and stair step/bike in the mourning
I need to find something that I can eat.. is spinach okay? I actually love that stuff
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
didn't you watch popeye as a kid?
nolander - January 12, 2012
I mean’t cooked sorry
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
cooked, sure, cooked with cream or something rich in fat, not so much. :)
Maddz - January 12, 2012
Salads using spinach are good.
OB12 - January 12, 2012
spinach is very high in calcium and protein. It’s like the champion of veggies.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
well I’m gonna veg it up then
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
and iron
don’t forget iron.
FWIW my mom got her blood pressure down 10 points by doing 45 minutes of zumba 3 times a week. not saying you should do zumba, but that the results are going to be there if you just keep going. good luck :)
Maddz - January 12, 2012
iron is the one i was looking for, thank you. spinch and mushroom omelettes (egg whites if you want to be super healthy) in the morning are awesome.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
I make good eggs, thank god because I wouldn’t eat breakfast other wise.
Mrs Dash is starting to piss me off tho
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
breakfast is important! yay for breakfast!
you could always just get some kosher salt, some pepper, and some other dried spices and go KABAM
Maddz - January 12, 2012
Whether or not the salt is kosher, doesn’t it have the same negative effects regarding hypertension (high blood pressure)?
David Young - January 12, 2012
My blood pressure went from 142/103
to 125/78 in three weeks, simply by cutting out coffee, red meat, and high sodium meals. Then going to smaller portions of the main dish and adding fruits and veggies to each meal. The fruits and veggies I consume now are raisins and bananas with cereal for breakfast (raisin bran), kiwi fruit and navel oranges throughout the day, and a daily salad of baby spinach leaves with cashews, defrosted blueberries, and orange bell peppers (w/raspberry parmesan dressing or bruschetta sauce). Drinking a lot of tangerine juice as well, instead of diet soda.
Spinach, oranges, chicken tikka masala, and cashews are all good sources of potassium, which helps remove excess sodium from your bloodstream.
The Dude Abides - January 12, 2012
Nice work
by coffee, do you mean caffeine, or not even decaf coffee?
mleadman - January 12, 2012
@mleadman – I cut out all coffee for that three-week period. I’m back to having it a couple times per week, on the days when I need an extra pick me up.
The Dude Abides - January 12, 2012
Ah, I didn't pay attention
to the 3 week period.
I’ve cut out booze permanently, and that dropped 25 pound s off me and lowered my BP to normal (not that BP was really high). But I still like my coffee. My next priority is to drink more water and cut way down on fried potatos. I think fries/chips is my biggest weakness at t he moment.
mleadman - January 12, 2012
I gave up the coffee habit, but never the alcohol!
David Young - January 12, 2012
I think cleaning up what you drink is one of the best things you can do. I’m completely off soda (used to drink a ton) and drink one cup of decaf coffee for breakfast and one cup of chamomile tea for lunch, otherwise I drink a shit ton of water.
I’m also forcing vegetables down my throat, which I hate, but what can ya do.
Michael White - January 12, 2012
I miss soda so hard sometimes
nolander - January 12, 2012
@Michael – I used to hate many green vegetables, until I discovered the wonder of putting delicious salad dressing and parmesan cheese on them. I’ve always loved onions and bell peppers, though.
The Dude Abides - January 12, 2012
My salad at lunch today had orange and yellow bell peppers, a few (not too many) croutons, a small amount (like 1/2 t) of sunflower seeds, and a similar amount of sliced almonds. Sometimes I include a small amount of cheese too. Many ways to spice up that salad while keeping it healthy.
David Young - January 12, 2012
I’m making a chicken for the sole purpose of being able to put part of it in a salad.
Maddz - January 12, 2012
My chicken salad
involves quite a bit of mayo tho
mleadman - January 12, 2012
The Wisconsin Salads
Chicken, tuna and ham
mleadman - January 12, 2012
@The Dude Abides – Wow, I didn’t even think of the idea of replying like this when the comments couldn’t break any further. Good idea. Lol.
Julio Nievas - January 12, 2012
GO TO WIDE MODE!
I’m not against the side yet.
David Young - January 12, 2012
I was wondering why he was doing it.
David Young - January 12, 2012
I am sipping green tea right now. I do drink diet soda (w/o caffeine) still, like one at lunch, but particularly for people who like caloric drinks, this can be a big deal.
David Young - January 12, 2012
That's one of my questions
is diet, non-caffeine soda ok? I’ve heard any type of soda is really not good for you long-term
mleadman - January 12, 2012
Most of the diet sodas have Aspartame, which is (roughly) bleach for your innards, in technical terms.
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
The fucking aspartame will probably kill me eventually, but at least it is zero calories.
David Young - January 12, 2012
If you got to go down, might as well look good in the process
Michael White - January 12, 2012
I stopped drinking any sort of caffeine over a year ago. I’m not sure if it’s actually helping or anything due to all my other health issues, but I like that I don’t need caffeine anymore.
VegasBlues - January 12, 2012
Me too. I like not being addicted to the caffeine anymore. I don’t religiously avoid it – a nice coffee with a rich dessert is a great combination – but no more habit.
David Young - January 12, 2012
When it comes to veggies
I pretty much only eat corn peas/green beans onions and uh potatoes. My wife hates me sometimes.
nolander - January 12, 2012
explains the Shrek thing.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
I have learned over time
that corn, peas and potatoes are not vegetables.
Onions probably add little nutritional value.
Green beans are great if you don’t overcook them.
bhsportsguy - January 12, 2012
Its ok I also eat a lot of quinoa
nolander - January 12, 2012
Quinoa is a grain too
I am guessing the leafy green things in the supermarket don’t go into your cart.
bhsportsguy - January 12, 2012
I’m trying to get G to eat kale. Will let you know how it goes.
Maddz - January 12, 2012
This might take a wile ;)
Tommy Blackjack - January 12, 2012 via iPhone app
Make a soup
with Kale, I know of several recipes
bhsportsguy - January 12, 2012
I put it with some white beans and made a stew, we’ll see how it goes. :)
Maddz - January 12, 2012
i’m picking out the kale, cooking a steak, and using the kale to add color to my plate.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
the last time you tried to cook a steak you set it on fire
Maddz - January 12, 2012
I was using another man’s grill. It was God teaching me a lesson.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
I’m fixing a hole where the rain came in
To stop my mind from wondering
kinbote - January 12, 2012
oh I know
I was just joking :-p. Does cilantro count as leafy and green lol? I get most of my veggies from salsa.
nolander - January 12, 2012
you know
the culinary kind
nolander - January 12, 2012
I have to ask
culinary kind of what
Maddz - January 12, 2012
according to wikipedia
some things are considered fruits by botony but used as vegetables in culinary..ness.
nolander - January 12, 2012
like tomatoes?
Maddz - January 12, 2012
yes
and apparently green beans.
nolander - January 12, 2012
When it comes to veggies, I take pills.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
My philosophy is to eat what I want within reason and take my chances with my genetics. Just ate a box of nerds, good stuff.
Xeifrank - January 12, 2012
Pretty much, if I don’t live to be 83, but enjoyed everything I ate, I’d consider it a win.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Right. If I have to eat crap like raw eggs and donkey brains to be Jake LaLane(sp?) level healthy then screw it. Being able to eat what you want within reason is part of what makes life enjoyable. Once again, within limits and knowing your genetics. If I balloon up, then yeah I am cutting back… but until then nerds, coke, and a few carrots and I am good.
Xeifrank - January 12, 2012
knowing my genetics
I need to get in the habit of eating clean now so I don’t have to do it in a reactionary fashion after I get diabetes.
Maddz - January 12, 2012
Yeah, it is important to know your genetics.
Xeifrank - January 12, 2012
also
I feel much better when I am in shape/not overweight, so there’s that, too. :)
But man, I love food.
Maddz - January 12, 2012
I am absolute proof that some of this unfortunately
is hereditary.
bhsportsguy - January 12, 2012
with cheddar, and a freckled lemonade, with ranch for the fries.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
oh royal has the egg? I always just get the basic cheeseburger and have never ever been disappointed
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
I love Red Robin
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
i was kind of surprised when Mad sid she wasn’t a Red Robin fan. I began to question her patriotism.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
No wonder you were rooting for Oxford! :)
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
I’m rooting for Oxford so I can open up a legit mexican food place in London.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
The British can’t handle things like “flavor”.
regfairfield - January 12, 2012
Sorry “flavour”
regfairfield - January 12, 2012
the most legit indian food i’ve ever had was in dublin. go figure
Maddz - January 12, 2012
London is home of great Indian food
Their food scene was really good when I was there. You just have to get past all the “pubs” that are everywhere.
I saw a few Mexican places when I was there but I wasn’t really interested in trying them.
And the few I saw were pretty crowded.
bhsportsguy - January 12, 2012
I didn’t get to visit London when I was Over There, but I did go to Scotland, and the food was pretty good.
Maddz - January 12, 2012
The huge Indian population in London laughs at you
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Exception made for countries you ruled for at least 300 years.
regfairfield - January 12, 2012
How’s the poutine in the UK?
Nolij - January 12, 2012
It requires not only ruling for 300myears, but having a fair proportion of the ruled emigrate to the “home” country. That never happened with the UK and its franco-Canadian population. No poutine (thank God), nor maple syrup either (way bad).
I’m an (Anglo) Montrealer who lied in the UK 20 years. I know whereof I speak.
berkowit28 - January 12, 2012
Yet another chain the Westside eschews. I’ll have to check it out next time I’m in Sherman Oaks.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
I’m not sure we have one in the Noaks.
Maddz - January 12, 2012
yeah definitely not
West Valley is where you gotta go.
But why do that when you can go to the Counter/Unami burger instead?
Maddz - January 12, 2012
Sometimes you want a pound of beef and infinite fries, sometimes you want a good burger.
regfairfield - January 12, 2012
Oh weird. It listed a Glendale location as neighborhood Sherman Oaks.
I’m a big fan of The Counter. Still been meaning to try Five Guys, which just opened at Fox Hills Mall, so I can have the overpriced burger for myself.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
atmosphere
strawberry lemonade
steak fries
nolander - January 12, 2012
atmosphere…if you enjoy seeing what happened when the 1950s got sick and threw up all over a restaurant :)
Maddz - January 12, 2012
I do.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
Yet, i hate Ruby’s. Terrible food, IMO
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
it’s this and many other things that make me seriously wonder about our relationship
:D
Maddz - January 12, 2012
they always have the really cool american flag made out of baseballs
I’ve always wanted to make one of those for my own house. I HAVE A HOUSE NOW. HOLY SHIT THIS HAS TO HAPPEN.
nolander - January 12, 2012
I enjoyed the realization mid post
Maddz - January 12, 2012
I honeslty just hadn't thought about it in awhile
and after going to my cousins place for christmas and seeing how he had Obey shit all over every wall(he does a lot of work for them, knows the artist) I realized my plan to stick random “art” on my walls was not good enough and wanted a personal touch. So yeah, I am excite.
nolander - January 12, 2012
I’ve you’ve got a Cheesecake Factory you have to have a Red Robin.
regfairfield - January 12, 2012
You’d think that.
Maddz - January 12, 2012
Oh wait there’s a Fudruckers there that totally screws up the math.
regfairfield - January 12, 2012
hahaha
Let’s just say “fuck it” and go to gyu kaku instead
Maddz - January 12, 2012
There’s a plan I can get behind.
regfairfield - January 12, 2012
it’s been long enough since the night of 1000 sake shots, so i think i can hang again
Maddz - January 12, 2012
Yeah. We have like 5 Cheesecake Factories and zero Red Robins.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
Cheesecake Factory sucks, Red Robin is awesome. You got screwed.
Michael White - January 12, 2012
I prefer to gain weight by making the food myself, not by going out for every meal and eating “healthy” at Red Robin
Maddz - January 12, 2012
I don’t think anyone is touting Red Robin as “healthy”. If I’m not getting 2500 calories I’m not getting what I wanted
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
right
but if I want to splurge i’d rather do it at a place like the counter
Maddz - January 12, 2012
If we all go to The Counter in MDR when my daughter is working, we’ll get 50% off!
David Young - January 12, 2012
I am off
on Monday
bhsportsguy - January 12, 2012
ME TOO
Maddz - January 12, 2012
Next Friday!
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
:(
Maddz - January 12, 2012
What’d I forget this time
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
oh nothing
I just have to work.
Maddz - January 12, 2012
Maybe Maddz and I can get Marty too
and go get ramen in the Valley on Monday
bhsportsguy - January 12, 2012
Let’s make this happen.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
Im seriously tempted going there
and just ordering a Iced Tea and some garlic fries, well done of course
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
yup, only thing I’ve thought sucked was the german themed burger, the bun was gross
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
Freckled lemonade?
jim hitchcock (railway) - January 12, 2012
Must have ginger in it.
David Young - January 12, 2012
strawberry lemonade
nolander - January 12, 2012
Not an egg guy
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
Trippin!!
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
on burgers? or in general?
Strangely potato chips on burgers, greatly enhances the bite
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
I like scrambled eggs. Other than that, I’m pretty much down on eggs other than as an ingredient.
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
I thought I was the only one.
regfairfield - January 12, 2012
I will not eat a fried egg unless its on some sort of sandwich
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
Am I the only one who puts mustard on their fried egg sandwich?
jim hitchcock (railway) - January 12, 2012
I will put mustard on nearly anything and almost everything
Hollywood Joe - January 12, 2012
Doesn’t Mrs. HJ complain about that?
mleadman - January 12, 2012
at times she complains about nearly anything and almost everything
Hollywood Joe - January 12, 2012
Once of the few uses of mayonnaise is for fried-egg sandwiches.
David Young - January 12, 2012
I'll put mayo
on a hot dog
mleadman - January 12, 2012
I do too, on my late night sausage on sourdough special.
jim hitchcock (railway) - January 12, 2012
The German in me will not allow me to degrade a sausage with mayonnaise.
David Young - January 12, 2012
Okay, mustard and sauerkraut works great also.
jim hitchcock (railway) - January 12, 2012
you dont like omletes? shit is the bombesest
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
Those include scrambled eggs. I love them
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
Eric does always order his Grand Slam
with scrambled eggs
bhsportsguy - January 12, 2012
I like the Banzai Burger
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
It’s between this, mushroom, or bleu cheese.
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
Like the first two choices, I’m not a bleu cheese fan.
This whole egg thing is unbelievable. A fried egg cooked in bacon grease, OH MY
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
RIGHT?
Maddz - January 12, 2012
We agree?
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
The Mayans were right.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
I’ve been playing with a new (for me) technique where you slow poach eggs by cooking in a large pot of water on very low heat in a very specific temperature range for about 45 minutes. Then you crack the egg and a perfect slow-poached egg comes out. Then I take that and fry it (often in bacon grease). It is pretty much egg perfection
BFDC - January 12, 2012
Banzai Burger is where it’s at. Pineapple on a burger, good stuff.
OB12 - January 12, 2012
what was the South Park line about Red Robin during the Occupy Episode? I can’t remember
Josie Becker - January 12, 2012
Yuuuummmmmm?
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
Their western w/e burger is pretty good
nolander - January 12, 2012
my wife is really into their mushroom burger
nolander - January 12, 2012
Last night, I ate in no particular order
oxtail, beef heart, Japanese squash and seared sea bass sashimi
bhsportsguy - January 12, 2012
Sometimes, I’m not jealous.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
though the sashimi sounds good
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
ha ha, my hidden thought
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Last night I ate two chili dogs and three Oreos filled with chocolate frosting.
silverwidow - January 12, 2012
I have this image of you untwisting the oreos, scraping the cream off with a nice, putting your own chocolate frosting on there, reapplying okie ends, and destroying the box.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
i guess beef heart is next on my list of weird things i’ve eaten from a cow.
Maddz - January 12, 2012
It’s shockingly non offensive.
regfairfield - January 12, 2012
since I’ve done tongue and intestine, I’m thinking heart can’t be that bad
Maddz - January 12, 2012
Oxtail is a pretty classic ingredient
Both in Hawaiian, Italian and Filipino (Pilipino) cooking. It really is just another section of the cow that is braised.
If I served you beef heart the way it was cooked last night, you would not know what part of the cow it came from.
The squash is similar to other squashes.
bhsportsguy - January 12, 2012
My M-I-L makes an awesome soup with chicken hearts. They’re the highlight.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
just dont tell me you’ve sat at a table of people that smash in a live monkeys brain and ate it… FUCK THAT!
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
i feel like Xeifrank about almost everything
when people start talking about food in here.
I just don’t see the appeal of most things talked about food wise.
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
There’s this thing called a ‘z’ key
Maddz - January 12, 2012
shocking that you would say that
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
well, I’m not going to stop talking about food just because you don’t find it interesting.
what was the expected response you were looking for?
Maddz - January 12, 2012
I wasn't looking for a response, just saying something i was thinking
which is 95% of the reason most people say anything on here.
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
I wasn't looking for a response, just saying something i was thinking
which is 95% of the reason most people say anything on here.
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
Its not his fault the counter is repetative
good think Counter 2 fixed that problem.
nolander - January 12, 2012
The Pretzel Bun is a lie
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
that made me so sad
Maddz - January 12, 2012
It's hard to tell what this means, haha
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
CounteMarket Fresh bun for a month was the Pretzel Bun, and it was such a hit they kept in on the menu for seral months after that, but when we went last week or so it was gone.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
and I missed it
bollocks
nolander - January 12, 2012
They wouldn't lie to you at red robin's
nolander - January 12, 2012
http://www.montanabrewingcompany.com/?page_id=3
best pretzel burger i’ve ever had
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
Heck, just go for the Shift-A key(s). :)
Xeifrank - January 12, 2012
Then I might miss some tv or movie talk! :)
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
You need
to download my new SBN app that filters out certain keywords and names. Right now it can only load three filters due to coding difficulties. My three filters currently have “Clippers”, “Star Wars” and “Taco Truck” in them.
Xeifrank - January 12, 2012
hahha
don’t hate
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
It would be cool if the offered an api
nolander - January 12, 2012
Funny, since you make just about as many Clipper comments as anyone, the only difference is you are trying to punk them.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
we should just include the phrase
“taco truck” whenever we are actually talking about the dodgers
Maddz - January 12, 2012
Yeah, it was a joke. And with 95% of my jokes, you are the butt of them. :)
Cuz I like you. But only as a bro, ok?
Xeifrank - January 12, 2012
I was wondering about the like part since I was the butt of so many
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
lmao
that’s awesome
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
well tell us what food does appeal to you man?
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
not too much honestly
I think people would just think i’m a little kid with the food i eat, haha.
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
no risk proposition for you buddy. We already think you’re a little kid because of your drink choices.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
well perfect :)
It’s a win-win!
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
I will say this
though I was eating some different foods at Ivdown’s age, I was not eating the variety of foods I eat now as I am over twice his age.
But someday or someone will get you try new things as time goes on.
bhsportsguy - January 12, 2012
When I was 18/19 I wouldn’t go near sushi. Love the stuff now
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
I was able to use my evil feminine wiles to get G to eat sushi. I’m very pleased
Maddz - January 12, 2012
tastes great
just depends if youre gonna be able to swallow it because of the texture. That freaked me out the first couple times.
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
4 words to save your life
Spicy Tuna Tempura Roll
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
dude, one word
Yellowtail
Maddz - January 12, 2012
dammit
now I want sushi!
Maddz - January 12, 2012
Two Words
Tex Wasabis.
I have to go take a shower now.
regfairfield - January 12, 2012
I went to his Garlic place up in norcal
it wasn’t terrible
nolander - January 12, 2012
At least he’s Italian…I think.
regfairfield - January 12, 2012
He pronounces his last named correctly.
kinbote - January 12, 2012
I dont think Fieri is his real last name.
UCLADodger32 - January 12, 2012
Guy Ferry. Claims to have changed it to honor his Italian grandfather.
David Young - January 12, 2012
I should get dressed and go continue my day of chores. Ugh.
Maddz - January 12, 2012
Previous to this you were doing the chores undressed?
David Young - January 12, 2012
Posting ala natural on TBLA is a time honored tradition
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
It’s basically a rule.
kinbote - January 12, 2012
but hopefully
never on the can
Hollywood Joe - January 12, 2012
sorry bout that
nolander - January 12, 2012
The Ipad has a dick app making it even easier
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Usually it is only my thoughts that are naked.
David Young - January 12, 2012
sometimes
my lunch is
Hollywood Joe - January 12, 2012
Yea
But its hot to think about Maddz doing it. Thinking about, say, Eric doing it… not so much. :D
EMDarrow - January 12, 2012
yup, up here they have a place that does it with jalapeno, cream cheese, spicy tuna, some other good stuff wrapped in a flour tortilla and deep fried.
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
You want bizarre texture
try Sea urchin. I love sushi/sashimi but the texture on it is… odd, to say the least.
EMDarrow - January 12, 2012
Very evil
I’ve been put under that spell too, not cool! lol
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
I had a...bad experience with Sushi over the summer
trying to impress a girl, lol. I’m not sure I’ll ever try sushi again.
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
did you get it from a supermarket?
Maddz - January 12, 2012
McDonalds
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
Sushi place in Hollywood by the Hollywood Bowl
nice place actually. My fish with soy sauce was great
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
I had a...bad experience with Sushi over the summer
trying to impress a girl, lol. I’m not sure I’ll ever try sushi again.
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
I wouldn’t even try sushi until this passed year
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
The 4 or 5 times I've tried
usually end in me almost vomiting
nolander - January 12, 2012
this was my same result just about
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
deep fried and work your way towards other stuff
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
dam you are trippin if you dont like sushi…. there is a very good reason there is a sushi place on every corner.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
AMERICA
fuck yeah!!
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
I’d kill a hobo for some sushi.
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012 via mobile
I have not eaten sushi. I am not going to eat sushi unless i’m on a boat with Thor Heyerdahl
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
I will never eat pickled fish
nolander - January 12, 2012
I will eat it all, once. And most things time after time after time.
Hollywood Joe - January 12, 2012
I didn't post that to say you shouldn't talk about whatever you want
I just find it personally funny people can get so into food talk :)
My dad has been telling me for years I will start eating more than my small “diet” i’ve got going now. Lets hope he’s right and stuff starts tasting better to me, if not i’m screwed, lol.
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
from a relationship standpoint it’s really hard to date someone who has a restricted diet. this goes to people who only eat pizza or potatoes and people who are vegan when the other person is not.
i’m convinced part of the reason my bff’s relationship failed was that she was vegan and made it somewhat difficult for her boyfriend.
Maddz - January 12, 2012
Your SO will get tired of going to the same four places and having to make sure everything you order is completely cleared of anything that isn’t brown or neon orange not that I am bitter about this or anything
regfairfield - January 12, 2012
I can definitely get that
Which is why I’m 1000% more willing to try new things when it comes to a girl than someone I know telling me to try something.
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
that’s just being a male, homie.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
haha…thats not always a good thing.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
Is thinking about what it is before you eat it the problem? I had that problem with Menudo, among other things…. but I got over it and tried it… its really good.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
Thinking for me is the biggest problem for just about anything
It took me a bit to psych myself up to even try the first bite.
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
That is how Clyde started robbing banks
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
don't be shocked when you see the news story :P
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
As they carry you away, you’ll be overheard yelling about trying to get out of the friend zone.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
I had to rec this, hahaha
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
and how Gillooly started ordering hits on knees.
David Young - January 12, 2012
Food talk
has been a big staple of the TBLA chat diet for a long long time. One day I will make a top 50 list of off topic TBLA chat subjects. We can debate it for a few weeks.
Xeifrank - January 12, 2012
I hope sci fi shows are in the top 5!
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
LOL
David Young - January 12, 2012
Talking about making lists that nobody actually makes would have to be on that list.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
I shouldn’t be surprised that a dude who likes AMFs doesn’t have a refined palette for food. ;-)
David Young - January 12, 2012
bowling alley food sucks
Hollywood Joe - January 12, 2012
you don't know what you are missing with AMFs :)
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
Yes, yes I do. I was young once, you know.
David Young - January 12, 2012
dude
you drank your AMFs in a wooden cup
Hollywood Joe - January 12, 2012
At least his was wooden, mine was stone
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Must have been hell to distill the booze when you hadn’t captured fire yet.
David Young - January 12, 2012
That is truly the cup of a carpenter.
Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache - January 12, 2012
Take all the papers and the trash
The headline is just something that was going on in my head as I typed this.
bhsportsguy - January 12, 2012
something something spending cash
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
“or you don’t get no”
Tommy Blackjack - January 12, 2012 via iPhone app
Guess the Red Sox figure why not
take a shot in the
legdark.underdog - January 12, 2012
Over/Under on number of Yankees he pegs this year?
kinbote - January 12, 2012
Texiera 19 times.
OB12 - January 12, 2012
Don’t talk back
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012 via mobile
So Vicente is gunning for Boston huh?
EMDarrow - January 12, 2012
BACKDROP DRIVER!
silverwidow - January 12, 2012
oh my god
Maddz - January 12, 2012
he ok?
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
It’s Gronk, he’s a beast. Fine.
silverwidow - January 12, 2012
Translation
There isn’t enough up there to damage.
EMDarrow - January 12, 2012
He is, got right up
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
/lawnchair’d
fbihop - January 12, 2012
that actually is quite hard to watch
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
I minimized :)
Maddz - January 12, 2012
Holy shit
I saw Brock Lesnar do that to A-train once and I thought he broke his neck
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
@Dodgers:
fbihop - January 12, 2012
Modern day Lou Gehrig?
NotJoeTorre - January 12, 2012
Clear another space on the mantel, CK.
kinbote - January 12, 2012
read that as Mantei and wondered what ever happened to Matt.
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
legit 100mph as i recall
kinbote - January 12, 2012
Fangraphs says 94. /phil
Nolij - January 12, 2012
ha ha
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Anyone who is a fan of line play should read this
awesome breakdown of the bengals d line vs the texans o line from last weekend
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/word-muth/2012/word-muth-outside-adjustments
nolander - January 12, 2012
Only thing I want to know about Texans: Will they sign Mario to a big deal or save the cash and stick with Barwin?
BFDC - January 12, 2012
Barwin isn't going anywhere
Mario might replace Reed next year though. Personally I would like them to move Mario to DE, move Watt to NT, and keep reed at LB. That would be an unstoppable front 7.
One way or another Mario will be there next year, but they need to resign Schuab too. Money might be tight.
nolander - January 12, 2012
man, I love your Barwin theory.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
well Barwin and Mario where set to be the two starting OLB
and where till Mario went down(with 6 sacks through less then six games IIRC). I still think Mario if healthy is the most talented player on our defense.
nolander - January 12, 2012
should have drafted Reggie Bush :)
G.Scott - January 12, 2012
That’s what I’m getting at. I’ve already heard rumblings they might not want to spend the $$ on Mario and Barwin and Reed are under contract right? Watt is not big enough or the type of player for a NT in the 3-4.
BFDC - January 12, 2012
We run a 1 game scheme
Theres a reason Ratliffe has had success at NT for Wade before, we don’t run the traditional 2 gap 3-4. Shit we are playing Shaun Cody on the nose right now, Watt or Antonio Smith could do it better then him in their sleep. I think its more likely they flip or cut Antonio Smith and move Mario to DE then let him walk.
nolander - January 12, 2012
You guys struck gold drafting Mario instead of Reggie
I remember thinking what a swing and a miss back then. lol
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
I was always liked the pick
but I believe in building the line first
nolander - January 12, 2012
This might stray into political/inappropriate for TBLA
but I need to share this article (which i got from Jon Weisman on facebook, thanks jon!) because of this paragraph, which I wholeheartedly agree with:
Don’t Fuck With My Thin Mints, You Evil, Transgender-Averse Girl Scout
Maddz - January 12, 2012
The Girl With The Snickerdoodle Taboo?
kinbote - January 12, 2012
ha ha
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
I buy lots of Girl Scout cookies from parents. I give them all away except for the Thin Mints. As he said, frozen thin mints are danger Will Robinson danger
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
serious? everyone here is a fan of the thin mints? my mom buys that shit and those shortbread ones… the wackest ones you can get…. Tagalongs and samoas are by far the best… then comes peanut better, that is a pretty plain cookie, but still above mints and those shortbread whatever they are called. What other kinds do they have?
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
Thin Mints are all I need. All-abouts and Tagalongs are good too, though.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
I’m not sure what other kinds they have. I usually just buy a few boxes of Thin Mints and toss them in the freezer. Mmmmm
VegasBlues - January 12, 2012
im just not a big fan of mixing chocolate and mint…. its weird to me…. if I want fresh breath ill take a mint, or gum, if I want to each chocolate im eating it with way better shit then mind… like peanuts, peanut butter, almonds, caramel… those cripsy things… but not mind…. not a big fan of peppermint mocha either…
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
sorry, mint*, not mind.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
I like mint in chocolate, not so much in cookies.
David Young - January 12, 2012
I love shortbread cookies. But the GS ones are simply OK. One of my wife’s co-workers, who is British, gave us a tin of homemade cookies at Xmas that included shortbread ones. Man were those things good.
David Young - January 12, 2012
LOTS AND LOTS of butter. Mmm butter.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
Butter. FUCK YEAH!
David Young - January 12, 2012
I’m not big on the Thin Mints. They’re ok, but mint is just not what does it for me in a cookie. Like you, I like the Tagalongs.
David Young - January 12, 2012
thank you david… yeah I agree.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
I knew someday we’d agree on something! ;-)
David Young - January 12, 2012
Our neighborhood Girl Scouts
sold nuts instead of cookies this year. Being disappointed, I only bought one box of cashews for $7. I don’t even like them, but my wife and daughter will eventually eat them.
Xeifrank - January 12, 2012
I've never understood
the appeal of Girl Scout Cookies
mleadman - January 12, 2012
Thank heaven for little girls
Hollywood Joe - January 12, 2012
Now back to this one
kinbote - January 12, 2012
Oof, sorta beat me to it.
David Young - January 12, 2012
Frozen Thin Mints go great with Sushi
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Nolander does.
David Young - January 12, 2012
I thought we buried that joke
Michael White - January 12, 2012
It should be used judiciously. This seemed like the once-or-twice-a-year moment to use it.
David Young - January 12, 2012
Haha. Got it.
Michael White - January 12, 2012
I'm just thinking of the halloween episode of the league now
nolander - January 12, 2012
Love that show
Michael White - January 12, 2012
gonna have to buy the most recent season on amazon digital
don’t want to wait a year for season 3 to hit dvd
nolander - January 12, 2012
Can I do that with Breaking Bad season 4? Same thing, I don’t want to wait a year to see it on netflix instant.
Michael White - January 12, 2012
30 bucks for season 4 in hd
which actually isn’t a bad deal http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005D646RE/ref=atv_dp_season_select?ie=UTF8&redirect=true
nolander - January 12, 2012
for reference 13 episodes of the league in hd is going to run 37
man thats hard to stomach
nolander - January 12, 2012
Awesome. Thanks! BTW, I just got a PS3, is there a way to purchase and watch this on the gaming device? If you know.
Michael White - January 12, 2012
hm
360 it would be easier, with the ps3 I think you would have to hope they add the content to the PSN and buy it there(but then not be able to watch it anywhere else). You could try an app like tvversity on your pc to transcode it from your computer to your ps3
nolander - January 12, 2012
Thanks. I’ll give it a shot. Fair warning, I might be bothering you later if I can’t figure it out.
Michael White - January 12, 2012
oh noes
I love that the 360 has media center built in just for this reason. It makes it so easy to manage all this digital crud
nolander - January 12, 2012
might not be able to do it
I fuggin hate DRM so much. It just makes this so painful for people.
nolander - January 12, 2012
Random
I just realized [during lunch today] that Mayor Carcetti from The Wire is played by the same actor as “Littlefinger” in Game of Thrones. Rewatching GoT and enjoying it even more the second time around.
kinbote - January 12, 2012
I’m surprised you didn’t catch that immediatelly. Of all the guys on the wire, I thought Carcetti had the most obvious accent that he was trying to hide.
Michael White - January 12, 2012
I was definitely surprised by String’s and McNulty
Julio Nievas - January 12, 2012
I thought Dominick West
Blew his accent almost once per episode
mleadman - January 12, 2012
Ive never heard of a transgender so young before.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
Things more likely than Dodgers signing Prince Fielder
1. Me marrying a supermodel
2. Me being elected President
3. The Timberwolves winning the NBA title
4. TBLA going a day without talking about burgers
5. Ted Lilly winning the 2012 NL Cy Young Award
fbihop - January 12, 2012
not going to do the math
but I’d guess you are wrong on maybe all accounts
Hollywood Joe - January 12, 2012
I secretly wish we do this just because I secretly wish we do this.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
I hope he marries a supermodel or at least milks the cow for free
Hollywood Joe - January 12, 2012
On the list of pitchers similar to Ted Lilly through age 35, Mike Scott and Pat Hentgen both won Cy Youngs and Esteban Loaiza and Jason Schmidt came in second. Granted not in their age-36 seasons, but still…
Nolij - January 12, 2012
Who was the oldest Cy Young award winner?
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Ever
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Randy Johnson?
Nolij - January 12, 2012
Don’t know was just looking at this list
http://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/mvp_cya.shtml
Clemens , R Johnson
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Warren Spahn was quite the pitcher after 30
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Jamie Moyer will be in 2022
BFDC - January 12, 2012
My guess is Clemens
mleadman - January 12, 2012
Clemens was 42 in 2004 and Perry was 40 in 1978.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
Randy I'm sure
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
When Sandy Koufax won 26 games in 1965 and struck out 382, he also picked up 2 saves.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
Will Capang match those numbers?
kinbote - January 12, 2012
Maybe the saves.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
ouch
kinbote - January 12, 2012
Crazy things happen with nine man pitching staffs.
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
I’m guessing Eric is working on a Clayton Kershaw LA Sportsman of the Year story. Thus proving this is a Dodger Town since he beat out that soccer guy who won a championship while we won the hearts of the city.
/probably not
Phil Gurnee - January 12, 2012
Quick
Post the We Win image
Michael White - January 12, 2012
Mets cutting $50 million from payroll?
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/37505/opening-day-payroll-projection
kinbote - January 12, 2012
Yowzuhs
Julio Nievas - January 12, 2012
So McCourt didn't actually say
“NO, WE ARE NOT GOING TO SIGN PRINCE FIELDER”
Right?
Julio Nievas - January 12, 2012
He did not say those words
Tommy Blackjack - January 12, 2012 via iPhone app
He was all, " LMFAO."
He must be hanging out with 4down.
Michael White - January 12, 2012
Then he chugged a Mike’s Hard Lemonade.
kinbote - January 12, 2012
Until Prince signs with someone else, I’m going to say the Dodgers are in more than “not”
Julio Nievas - January 12, 2012
Until Penelope Cruz gets married, I am going to say that I am in more than “not”
Hollywood Joe - January 12, 2012
Play the percentages
there are many men who can say that, but only 30 teams have a shot!
Julio Nievas - January 12, 2012
according to wikipedia she is married to Javier Bardem..whom ever that is, so sorry, but you’re fucking out, he’s fuckin in.
uschris0304 - January 12, 2012
No Country for uschris.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
Best haircut ever, uchris.
jim hitchcock (railway) - January 12, 2012
The fact that I am married makes me more out than “not”.
David Young - January 12, 2012
Party Rock Anthem will replace Don’t Stop Believin’.
Nolij - January 12, 2012
You're just sad you can't use whatever lol, haha, lmao you want
I’m not afraid to look the way I do :P*
*hot damn I love smilies too! :)
Ivdown - January 12, 2012
new post
http://www.truebluela.com/2012/1/12/2703275/clayton-kershaw-dodgers-2011-sportsman-of-the-year-la-sports-council
Eric Stephen - January 12, 2012
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