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Clayton Kershaw and his wife Ellen are promoting their book this week, Arise: Live Out Your Faith and Dreams on Whatever Field You Find Yourself. Roberto Baly (and his baby boy!) of Vin Scully Is My Homeboy caught up with them at a book signing this weekend.

Kershaw and his wife are scheduled to meet with the media on Tuesday at Dodger Stadium. Just thinking out loud here, if Kershaw and the Dodgers were to agree to a multi-year contract extension, right around the time the two sides would file salary figures for arbitration, a Tuesday press conference would the perfect time to announce such a thing.

Maybe I'm just feeling optimistic on a Monday. But even if Kershaw doesn't join Matt Kemp in the long-term crew this year, there is still plenty of time to get a deal done, as Kershaw has three years before hitting free agency. I have to imagine that one of the top baseball priorities of whatever new ownership comes in on April 30 will be to lock up the ace.

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he should’ve gotten lester money, instead he’ll get verlander money. i don’t care either way, as long as his money is dodger blue.

here here!

I do wonder if he’ll accept Monopoly 50s, though.

do a reverse trick

Take a stack of hundreds and wrap them in Monopoly 50s

did that woman ever get back to you with an agency name?

she told me she would call you

I see she has not yet

You are correct

I am displeased

I’ll ask her about the name of the agency today.

You’re the man.

I do my best :)

If only

he drank Dr Pepper :)

quiet you! :)

I'm such a fan of the Rays doing what they have done with their young players

It’s too bad we didn’t do something like one of those contracts with Kershaw.

yet….

he means giving kershaw a 20mil/6 year deal the day he stepped into the MLB Dodgers uniform.

Of course it's crazy to do it for almost every player

The thing that sucks is Kershaw was clearly a pitcher that would have been worth rolling the dice of a multi million dollar contract early on.

Its way too late to do it the way the Rays did. You could do it with, say, Sands or Jansen, but for Kershaw its long past that point.

even jansen has about a year and a half more service time than Longoria or moore had.

Sands or Dee would be the ones.

I'm curious what people think

what’s the longest term contract you’d be comfortable with?

Career :)

but like, he’s 23 (?), if you gave him a 16 year, $300mil contract, it’s a HUGE risk, but if he stays healthy it’s a HUGE bargain. If he gets hurt, you’ve potentially crippled your club until 2030.

I know I know

I think Widow has the right idea

I can’t see him signing anything longer than 5 or 6. That would still allow him to hit free agency before age 30. Works for everyone I think.

I agree, but not what I’m interested in. How many years would you hear that he got, then think it wasn’t too long to be too risky?

Probably five.

I agree. 5 would feel right, I’d be okay with 6 or 7, 8 would feel like too much but if the price is right I’d be happy.

For Kershaw?

8 years, though 6 or 7 would make more sense. Honestly at that price it may not matter because it’s about keeping him here, not about getting any kind of a deal.

It’s still about mitigating risk.

It may be high risk

But the reward should be even higher. Injury risk is always on people’s mind for pitchers when talking extensions, but for a guy like this, we know we aren’t getting a Darren Driefort as far as both production and health, so minimum 5 years is great with me, though i’d like to see him for another couple years more than that personally (likely just for that specific contract, if things go right i’d want him back after).

If we have to roll the dice, i’m happy doing it on Kemp and Kershaw.

and with pitchers

theres a ton of risk. And even more with young pitchers. Past history has not been kind to guys like Kershaw who dominated from an early age: a lot of them flamed out by 29-30. So not only do you have the risks inherent to pitchers, but the ones for young pitchers as well.

None of us wants to believe that will happen to Clayton, but the reality is its entirely possible. How do you build some sort of safety net around that possibility that both sides can agree on?

higher value, opt out clauses every 3 years. 8 year deal with 3 separate 3 year mutual options.

If there was some sort of protection around it becoming a Dreifort contract (I mean a high salary contract on the books for someone who cant pitch anymore, to say nothing of simply not being as good) then yea, I’d totally be fine with something in the 8-9 year range.

7 years…..DO IT!

Trivia Time

Which active player is the longest tenured all-star?

Julio Franco??

Too bad he’s still not around, lol. Wait, was he ever an all-star?

FWIW, Franco was first an all star in 1989.

in 1989, the winning pitcher was Nolan Ryan, the loser was John Smoltz, Doug Jones got the save, Tommy lasorda managed the NL, Tony LaRussa the AL, Wade Boggs and Bo Jackson hit home runs, and Bo was named MVP

wow

That was only the year I was born, lol.

Vizquel?

Omar was first an all star in 1998. There was someone else also in 1998 who is still active. The site I saw said it was the other person, but Vizquel was the same year. I’m now doubting my source.

ok sorry

the last active all star was first an all star in 1992.

I have no idea. Jamie Moyer?

Actually, it’s probably Wakefield.

tim wakefield was only an all star once, in 2009, at the age of 42.

Pudge was active this last year, did he start going to ASGs that early on?

Yeah. Good call

how was pudge

not an all star in 02 and 03?

hmm

both years his league only took 2 catchers

2002: AJ Pierzynski/Posada
2003: Lo Duca/javy lopez

Yeah, he should have been an all star

in 2002 he only played 39 games before the ASB, but in 2003 he was awesome and played 82 games pre-break.

It’s Pudge. He was an all star in 1992. Thome is second.

you of all people are going to kick yourself

Jamie Moyer has only been an All Star once, in 2003, at the age of 40.

In the Kershaw arbitration thread

I suggested 6/$96M. Would people still consider this a bad off-season if we locked both Kemp and Kershaw up long term?

For the present, hell yes

For the future, no.

Ok

let me try to frame this question a little differently then.

Which would you take, scenario A or B

Scenario A:
Sellers starting 2B, Fielder signed to 8 year deal, Loney traded for scraps, Sands/Gwynn platoon in LF, Kuroda ($13M), Eovaldi 5th starter. With neither Kemp nor Kershaw signed to long term deals.

Scenario B:
What has happened so far with Kershaw extended for 6 years at some fair but pretty high amount.

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