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Protect that left hand, Clayton!
The Dodgers took care of two of their three arbitration-eligible players on Tuesday, but one big fish remains. Andre Ethier and James Loney signed one-year deals, but the Dodgers were unable to work out a contract with reigning Cy Young winner Clayton Kershaw.
The pitcher and the team exchanged salary arbitration figures on Tuesday, with Kershaw seeking $10 million in 2012 while the Dodgers offered $6.5 million, per Jon Heyman of CBS Sports. The numbers represent the core of the interpretation of this case, similar to what we discussed last week.
The normal record for salary for a first-year arbitration-eligible pitcher is $4.35 million, set by Dontrelle Willis in 2006 and matched by Cole Hamels in 2009 (the first year of a three-year contract) and David Price today (the fine folks at DRaysBay have the details on their southpaw's new deal). The Dodgers have offered a salary that represents a 49.4% raise over this, so even they recognize the value of Kershaw's Cy Young award.
Kershaw, meanwhile, has submitted a number that reflects his outlier status, more in line with that of Tim Lincecum, who signed a two-year, $23 million contract in 2010 that paid the Giants' hurler a $2 million signing bonus, $8 million in 2010, and $13 million in 2011. Lincecum has his own arbitration fight this winter, as he will set a new record whether at $17 million or $21.5 million.
The number to watch in Kershaw's case is $8.25 million, the midpoint of both submitted salaries and the number both sides will argue against. If Kershaw's camp can convince the three-person arbitration panel that he is worth $8,250,001 then he will win the case; conversely Alex Tamin and the Dodger crew will fight for $8,249,999 and below (Just to be clear, if this goes to a hearing, there are only two options for the panel to decide: Kershaw will either be awarded $6.5 million or $10 million, but both sides will argue for their side of the midpoint to sway the arbitration panel).
The $8.25 million midpoint isn't too far off from my guess last week of an $8.5 million salary for Kershaw. It really wouldn't surprise me if either side won an arbitration hearing, as there are solid arguments on both sides. But I think eventually, even though both sides are pretty far apart now, Kershaw and the Dodgers will eventually settle. There is too much to lose on each side to risk going to a hearing.
Besides, I contend that Kershaw and the Dodgers have already agreed to a contract for 2012. Kershaw has just been so busy signing copies of his new book that his left hand has been too tired to sign said contract.
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Eric Stephen - January 17, 2012
Eric, what do you think is more likely?
A long-term deal or a one year deal?
Tommy Blackjack - January 17, 2012 via iPhone app
one-year now. Long term next winter.
Eric Stephen - January 17, 2012
I think so too
Tommy Blackjack - January 17, 2012 via iPhone app
wait seriously the clippers are 1-41 on the road against Utah?
is that even possible?
nolander - January 17, 2012
Well when there’s a debate whether you or the Arizona Cardinals is the worst franchise of all time…
regfairfield - January 17, 2012
Arizona has been the superbowl…..
Hollywood Joe - January 17, 2012
Well that was at least true a few years ago I haven’t bothered rethinking the question :)
So if not Arizona who is in the debate for the worst major sports franchise in America?
regfairfield - January 17, 2012
browns?
nolander - January 17, 2012
bucks? timberwolves?
nolander - January 17, 2012
texans?
nolander - January 17, 2012
right now?
pirates
nolander - January 17, 2012
Can’t consider any team formed in the last couple decades. Memphis Grizzlies and a bunch of failed NHL teams are in the hunt then.
regfairfield - January 17, 2012
yeah I just figured I would get it out of the way
but I agree completely.
nolander - January 17, 2012
St. Louis Blues maybe
three straight Cups appearances in their early years but nothing since. I don’t know about winning % though. Atlanta Hawks have been mediocre forever and last went to the finals in St. Louis.
But for sustained ineptitude it has to be the Cubs. No need to explain.
Pure Azure - January 17, 2012
That’s a damn good choice. Really any team from Cleveland is.
regfairfield - January 17, 2012
browns have like a .3 winning percentage in the playoffs
bengals too
nolander - January 17, 2012
Might be fair to call any team from Ohio miserable failures but the Reds?
Hell even a friend of mine in his mid 20s that’s a Reds fan says Barry Larkin is the only good thing that’s happened in his life.
regfairfield - January 17, 2012
ouch
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_playoff_results#All-time_playoff_records_.28NFL.2FAFL.29
nolander - January 17, 2012
bengals might actually be worse then browns
nolander - January 17, 2012
you know what, super bowl appereance be damned
the Cardinals are still historically the worse franchise in the NFL.
nolander - January 17, 2012
Clippers' rough spots on the road the last 20 or so years
at Utah: 15 straight, 1-41 in last 42
at San Antonio: 17 straight, 1-26 in last 27, 3-40 in last 43
Eric Stephen - January 17, 2012
this amazes me
nolander - January 17, 2012
really
like getting on that plane must suck
Hollywood Joe - January 17, 2012
Especially in the middle game of a back-to-back-to-back.
Home against NJ, trip to Losstown, home against Dallas
Eric Stephen - January 17, 2012
1-42 now
Eric Stephen - January 17, 2012
three year or two year deal
Do you think Kershaw would go for a two or three year deal-two year deal for 15million (7.5 each year) or three year at 24-25 million.
wineracquet - January 17, 2012
Absolutely no chance.
Eric Stephen - January 17, 2012
none. he’s taking all the risk.
G.Scott - January 17, 2012
No. Kershaw stands to make that much unless his career ends on the first pitch of the season this year.
regfairfield - January 17, 2012
that’s a greek chorus of NO right there
Hollywood Joe - January 17, 2012
even then, he’ll be non-tendered and given minor league deals until he’s 30, which is 7 years
G.Scott - January 17, 2012
Hell wasn’t Mark Prior getting guaranteed deals until last year?
regfairfield - January 17, 2012
minor league deals with a bunch of incentives
G.Scott - January 17, 2012
At a very rough estimate, assume a 50% raise in his next two years, per arbitration. So even if Dodgers win at $6.5 million you are looking at:
$6.5m
$9.75m
$14.63m
That’s 3 years, $30.88 million, and much more like a floor than anything else.
Eric Stephen - January 17, 2012
Ok so I lowballed it
Would 3 years at 39million-13million be enough?
wineracquet - January 17, 2012
Yeah mid 30s is a good start.
regfairfield - January 17, 2012
Something like that would work, I just don’t see it happening until next year.
Eric Stephen - January 17, 2012
I realize the amount of the monetary commitment is different
but if – if – it makes sense for the Nats to give Gio Gonzalez a five-year commitment that buys out three arb years and two FA years, doesn’t it make sense for the Dodgers to do the same for Kid K? (Ownership issues notwithstanding.) And how many dollars would that take? Double what Gio got, or $84M?
David Young - January 17, 2012
I don't think for myself so
6/95
nolander - January 17, 2012
Yeah, something like that.
Maybe 7/11/17 and add 20 for each of the free agent years, so 5/$75 or something like that.
Eric Stephen - January 17, 2012
I’d say average 12 for the arb years, 20 a piece for FA so 5/76.
regfairfield - January 17, 2012
Ownership is the issue
I think Eric’s point is correct and we have to wait until next year. Given that Kershaw has so many years left of arbitration he wants to maximize and if the Dodgers want to do something they are going to have to pay and really can’t do that until next year. Hence my idea at 3 years.
wineracquet - January 17, 2012
I agree with you that from a cost-certainty standpoint, signing Kershaw for 3 years can work without affecting ownership at all, in fact possibly saving the next owner by locking Kershaw in for years he was going to be here anyway.
But from a “I want to lock Kershaw up” standpoint, I would hate a 3-year deal.
If I had to choose between a 3-year deal now or a 5-or 6-year deal next offseason, I’d rather wait.
Eric Stephen - January 17, 2012
Maybe they can "handshake" on something
and then when the owner comes in pass it by them for approval
nolander - January 17, 2012
Just like Frank wanted a ‘handshake’ agreement for the TV rights?
Tripon - January 17, 2012
Getting this shit on the road early!
Per Rosenthal, the Astros have reached agreement with Jack Cust on a 2-year deal. Hello, 2013 DH!!
Eric Stephen - January 17, 2012
I came here just to comment on that. I had forgotten the DH part. Those Astros are crazy smart!
kinbote - January 17, 2012
Well, now that you're here
Check out this creepy picture of a child porn dude mug shot, via Deadspin.
Eric Stephen - January 17, 2012
T-shirt caption not helping!
kinbote - January 17, 2012
It really is the icing on the cake.
Eric Stephen - January 17, 2012
The gravy on the cake.
David Young - January 17, 2012
mmm gravy fries
nolander - January 17, 2012
Stand down
The second year is apparently a club option, says Astros’ beat reporter Zachary Levine.
Eric Stephen - January 17, 2012
He’s been good more recently than Ryan Ludwick so rock on.
regfairfield - January 17, 2012
Great
I was in Hollywood two weeks ago and NOW I learn of Jitlada!! I went to some decent place just north of there on Hollywood Blvd., (52-5300 block). Argh. Next time. The spicier the better.
Pure Azure - January 17, 2012
I knew of it but didn’t want to rec a place I hadn’t been.
kinbote - January 17, 2012
that place is now Green’d
Hollywood Joe - January 17, 2012
Have never been there
But checking it out online, I am getting hungry. Chef Tui’s Dynamite SPICY Challenge looks like the thing I would try first (claimed to be the hottest on the menu):
Eric Stephen - January 17, 2012
I will
Take you there but one shouldn’t drive all the way back to Hesperia after a meal there.
bhsportsguy - January 17, 2012 via iPhone app
Haha
Eric Stephen - January 17, 2012
Please post Address so that I can go myself. I enjoy food as much as the next man.
Grimjack - January 18, 2012
5233 West Sunset Boulevard
Between Western and Normandie.
David Young - January 18, 2012
5233 W Sunset Blvd. Los Angeles, CA 90027
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
Thanks,
I must have walked by this a million times.
Grimjack - January 18, 2012
Lakers
back in first place by percentage points in an hour.
Xeifrank - January 17, 2012
Woo hoo!
Eric Stephen - January 17, 2012
Woo hoo!
Eric Stephen - January 17, 2012
Nate Robinson 17 and 10… I hate to keep crying about it but I think Lakers fucked up big not getting this guy. He’d have been a big boost to the bench, if not starting PG. Signed a 1 year veteran minimum, we could of had him for nothing.
uschris0304 - January 17, 2012
Damn Ned!
Xeifrank - January 17, 2012
Evidently
there is some video of an Alabama fan tea bagging a passed out LSU fan on Bourbon street
this + toomers corner tree killing – too great stories in one year for this historic institution
Hollywood Joe - January 17, 2012
One of my rules to live by
Never pass out in public.
Eric Stephen - January 17, 2012
or at a house in the valley… permanent marker, all over your face…. and your nails colored in too.
uschris0304 - January 17, 2012
and ass raped on camera
never forget that people in the valley get ass raped
Hollywood Joe - January 17, 2012
Not since you moved out. ;-)
David Young - January 17, 2012
Rec or really rec?
Grimjack - January 18, 2012
I also make it a habit to avoid being teabagged in public
nolander - January 17, 2012
So you only like it in private?
David Young - January 17, 2012
my lips are sealed
or are they?
nolander - January 17, 2012
Belinda Carlisle said that
and Mike Marshall dated her anyway.
David Young - January 17, 2012
glad you brought that up
I watched the video, and there’s this passed out LSU fan and Bama fans are stacking trash on him and he’s not moving. He’s clearly the only LSU fan in the area. He moves a little bit, and everyone backs off, but he’s clearly gone. And about two minutes in, yeah a Bama fan pulls out his balls, climbs on top him, and places them on the young LSU fan’s face.
Now there’s a rumour out there that the LSU fan died, but he’s not dead. It’s one of those things that without youtube would be a giant urban myth, but lo and behold, there is video.
Another actual fact about the case, is that a local TV station aired the video on their newscast, and one of the boys in the video is the son of the Sports reporter.
Josie Becker - January 17, 2012
The third paragraph is awesome.
Eric Stephen - January 17, 2012
Drunk college student sticks balls in another guys mouth (no homo…seriously bro) sun rises in east.
regfairfield - January 17, 2012
usually, the video of your ballsack doesn’t get put on deadspin
Josie Becker - January 17, 2012
Only expose your scrotum inside the frat house I can’t stress this enough.
regfairfield - January 17, 2012
we took photos of our scrotum on one guys pillow, and tooth brush and ass on the car seat and steering wheel and all sorts of awful, awful, things
Hollywood Joe - January 17, 2012
At no point in my life have I wanted to put my dick on my friends or any of their possessions and somehow I am the minority here.
regfairfield - January 17, 2012
I am not proud of it, but you gotta own up to these things
Hollywood Joe - January 17, 2012
It’s the last stage of that rite of passage?
David Young - January 17, 2012
Not criticizing at all it’s just weird to me that I was always the one that had to say “dude, are you really gaining anything by putting your wang on Jon’s forehead?” I feel like I missed out on something.
regfairfield - January 17, 2012
it is fair to criticize
it was very funny at the time, you did miss that
Hollywood Joe - January 17, 2012
grossing out your friends is amusing
nolander - January 17, 2012
The only urge I’ve ever had in this general area is to swab my penis across a deli platter so I could feel like one of my Dodger heroes.
David Young - January 17, 2012
No good can come of the combination of one’s exposed genitalia and video.
David Young - January 17, 2012
tell that to Paris and Kim
Hollywood Joe - January 17, 2012
it’s only cool to do it to your friends, right?
I know a guy who passed out in Europe back in the days of film cameras. His buddies all took roman soldier photos of him. He never knew about it and they never told him.
Lo and behold, 6 weeks later he returns to the states and gives his mom all the rolls of film to develop at the local drug store. Embarrassment for all
Hollywood Joe - January 17, 2012
Actually, I’d prefer to drop my balls in a strangers mouth, over a friends, if I were to do such a thing.
uschris0304 - January 17, 2012
I am over ball hazing
but when I did think that funny
Always a friend, which is really just a cruel joke
A stranger? That is sexual assualt
Hollywood Joe - January 17, 2012
Dam, you’re right. Didnt think of that, good thing id never do it.
uschris0304 - January 17, 2012
t-shirt material
Eric Stephen - January 17, 2012
This site isn’t going to make it through my porn filter much longer is it. It was nice knowing y’all.
Xeifrank - January 17, 2012
breasts
Josie Becker - January 17, 2012
.
nolander - January 17, 2012
≥≤
G.Scott - January 17, 2012
Magna
cum laude.
David Young - January 17, 2012
I hate to say this but that is clearly sexual assault.
Grimjack - January 18, 2012
I thought tossing watermelon seeds on my passed out brother was over the top but this stuff is just crazy bad taste and ass kicking worthy.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
UFC talk
Craziness with Mark Munoz getting hurt and Chael Sonnen and Michael Bisping all of a sudden in a Number One Contender Match on January 28. And Maia gets Weidman.
I really, really wanted to see if Munoz could beat Sonnen; I think Bisping has no chance outside out a freak occurrence. Maia vs. Weidman will be REALLY interesting.
fbihop - January 17, 2012
My one regret is that this fight didn’t have enough hype time for Chael to reduce Bisping to tears.
regfairfield - January 17, 2012
yeah
I think Sonnen is gonna kill him
Tommy Blackjack - January 17, 2012 via iPhone app
Floyd Mayweather back on Twitter again today I see… 3 hours ago he said….16th was Dr. Martin Luther King Birthday January 17th is Muhammad Ali Birthday and May 5th is Pacquiao ass whooping day
uschris0304 - January 17, 2012
what an intelligent and respectable guy
court168627 - January 17, 2012 via Android app
this was friggin funny.
G.Scott - January 17, 2012
wait what?? Wikipedia is now blacked out for 24 hours? great.
uschris0304 - January 17, 2012
Is TBLA going to blackout for SOPA and PIPA?? or does it not affect TBLA?
uschris0304 - January 17, 2012
Since SBN spent all their money on Ashton Kutcher they can’t afford pointless activism.
regfairfield - January 17, 2012
no politics
nolander - January 17, 2012
I think Wikipedia could go down for 24 weeks and I wouldn’t realize it…
VegasBlues - January 17, 2012
but its been down for like an hour and you already know
ok I’ll see myself to the door.
nolander - January 17, 2012
I fucking love Clayton Kershaw
advisory: it’s about his book, and his book is about religion, so I think comments about the article should be avoided here, but it’s a good read.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;ylt=AsQw9i3HeVfcNZ0Siu8c2e85nYcB?slug=ti-brownkershaw_religion_book_011712
G.Scott - January 17, 2012
his wife is tiny
nolander - January 17, 2012
But they look cute… She looks like a Clayton Kershaw wife.
uschris0304 - January 17, 2012
yes
nolander - January 17, 2012
I'm happy that they are happy
nolander - January 17, 2012
she's sooo cute
wouldn’t most women look tiny next to him anyways? ;-)
JLS23 - January 17, 2012
Short yes, tiny, not necessarily.
David Young - January 18, 2012
anyone see the Top 10 pitchers right now show?
Tommy Blackjack - January 17, 2012 via iPhone app
# 8
Dan Haren
Tommy Blackjack - January 17, 2012 via iPhone app
# 7
Lincecum
Tommy Blackjack - January 17, 2012 via iPhone app
# 6
Jered Weaver
Tommy Blackjack - January 17, 2012 via iPhone app
# 5
Kershaw
Should be higher
Tommy Blackjack - January 17, 2012 via iPhone app
wow
fuck em
nolander - January 17, 2012
who is 4 then?
I get lee halladay and verlander, but who the hell is 4?
nolander - January 17, 2012
maybe david price.
if so, fuck em.
court168627 - January 17, 2012
matt moore!
nolander - January 17, 2012
or is it only SP?
maybe they’ll give mo rivera a bullshit spot.
court168627 - January 17, 2012
you can't say its for right now
and drop the cy young winner to 5. Thats foney balloney
nolander - January 17, 2012
so top 4 have to be (in no order) halladay, verlander, lee, and…?
court168627 - January 17, 2012
king
nolander - January 17, 2012
a ha.
yes. not too much of a travesty IMO.
court168627 - January 17, 2012
# 4
Felix Hernandez
Tommy Blackjack - January 17, 2012 via iPhone app
# 3
Cliff Lee
Tommy Blackjack - January 17, 2012 via iPhone app
halladay over verlander i'm guessing with the way this has shaked out
nolander - January 17, 2012
as it should be.
looking over halladay’s numbers again, the guy is unbelievable. it really can’t be overstated how good he is.
court168627 - January 17, 2012
Sheehan
Has Kershaw as his # 2, just below Doc. Leiter has him # 3
Tommy Blackjack - January 17, 2012 via iPhone app
# 2
Verlander
Tommy Blackjack - January 17, 2012 via iPhone app
# 1
Roy Halladay
No shock
Tommy Blackjack - January 17, 2012 via iPhone app
I like that 8 through 5 is represented entirely by nerdy white guys in california.
court168627 - January 17, 2012
i generally think haren is an underrated pitcher, but i would still take cc over him.
court168627 - January 17, 2012
Yeah, they are pretty even. Hopefully, there are no Diamondbacks pitchers on this list.
Xeifrank - January 17, 2012
i would actually take cc over weaver too.
the guy has put together six consectuive great seasons now. a few more years and he might be close to HOF caliber.
court168627 - January 17, 2012
they are incredibly close over the last three years using rWar
at least I think baseball reference pitcher war is rWar
nolander - January 17, 2012
I’d take Weaver in a fly ball pitchers park. CC in a band box.
Xeifrank - January 17, 2012
so we want weaver
CC to Colorado.
nolander - January 17, 2012
probably
Weaver in SD or SF.
Xeifrank - January 17, 2012
my brain totally failed me there
nolander - January 17, 2012
If not Verlander,
Halladay.
court168627 - January 17, 2012
what is this on, by the way?
court168627 - January 17, 2012
MLB-TV
iiidown - January 17, 2012
Gaslamp Ball-TV
Xeifrank - January 17, 2012
What are they using to rank with?
if the bloody sock, Schilling will be #1.
Xeifrank - January 17, 2012
It’s “right now”
Tommy Blackjack - January 17, 2012 via iPhone app
kershaw wins
fatality! or else the kitten gets it
nolander - January 17, 2012
Brian Kenny hosting
Al Leiter and Joel Sheenan there to, so there are some advanced stats thrown in. They’ve mentioned XFIP
Tommy Blackjack - January 17, 2012 via iPhone app
its gonna be hallady
nolander - January 17, 2012
Would not be surprised. Kershaw better be in the top 3.
Tommy Blackjack - January 17, 2012 via iPhone app
no respect.
funkyjam - January 17, 2012
My Top Ten
1. Kershaw (young, lefty, most importantly a Dodger)
2. Verlander
3. Halladay
4. Felix
5. Lee
6. Lincecum
7. CC
8. Weaver
9. Haren
10. Granick
VeroJoe - January 18, 2012
Check your bias, homie :)
kinbote - January 18, 2012
I originally titled it “My Biased Top Ten” then opted to delete “baised” due to my propensity to be “biased”-
VeroJoe - January 18, 2012
I think Verlander has a pretty solid claim on #1. But heavy is the head that wears the crown.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
After last year you can’t deny Verlander or his 100mph fastball for the top spot. With that being said, I would still bet on Kershaw for the long term. I’m not only biased but also very stubborn ;)
VeroJoe - January 18, 2012
Verlander has the type of body and mechanics that you look at and understand how he throws 100mph. It’s guys like Rubby that you worry about.
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
1. Halladay
2. Verlander
3. Kershaw
4. Lee
5. Felix
6. CC
7. Lincecum
8. Weaver
9. Lester
10. Greinke
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
lester is what we wish Billingsley were. A guy who walks too many but whose strikeouts make it okay, mid-3 ERA.
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
I've been a huge fan of Lester since his second year in the league
You’re absolutely right about that too.
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
nice list
VeroJoe - January 18, 2012
Kershaw, Billingsley, Lilly, Capuano, Harang, Eovaldi, Rubby, Kuroda (he used to be better, but you know…), Eveland, Verlander.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Capang then Harang or the other way around?
Harang>Cap IMO
VeroJoe - January 18, 2012
I project Harang as our #4 starter, partly to keep the L-R-L-R-L thing but partly cuz of what you say.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
I really like the LRLRL idea….it’s always been my MO in video games….same thing when balancing a lineup.
VeroJoe - January 18, 2012
you always got good ish Kinbote
VeroJoe - January 18, 2012
But looking at the rotation one day later, it becomes RLRLL
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
As long as it doesn’t become ROTFL
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Well done.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
Right
The rotation is circular, so there are always going to be two lefties in a row somewhere. But I’d just as soon not have the two softer throwing lefties be those two.
David Young - January 18, 2012
Even though it probably doesn’t matter, I like that balance too. It’s like when you played over-the-line or something with a buddy and forced him to keep moving from LF to RF because you switch-hit!
kinbote - January 18, 2012
I’d go, Cap > Harang. Better peripherals, just needs to stop getting hit so hard.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
LOL
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
I put that in to keep Reg off my back. :)
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
I fully believe Capuano will be better than Harang.
Of course you can put any other name but Capuano in that sentence and it will be true.
regfairfield - January 18, 2012
ha ha
Hey, the Padres have a complete new rotation in 2012 from 2010
Garland, Correja, LeBlanc, Latos, and Richard per BRef’s top five starters
How often does that happen?
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Once every two years?
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
Could be right but Peavy was there for a long time. That said the Padres may go through starting pitchers faster then anyone over the last decade.
I can only think of Peavy and Chris Young as something of mainstays.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Ditto
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
Probably more often than you’d think on bad teams.
Just going through the Royals they did it 2005-2007.
regfairfield - January 18, 2012
Right, but the Padres were almost the NL West Champions in 2010 not some chum.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Longterm
I’d say
1.Kershaw
2.Verlander
3.Strasburg
4.Felix
5.Halladay
6.Weaver
7.Sabathia
8.Lee
9.Carpenter
10.Lincecum
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
What do people think about this
I kind want criticism of my opinions right now.
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
Nobody cares
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
Lee seems low. Stras seems high. No huge issues though.
Michael White - January 18, 2012
Ok, Veruca Salt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRTkCHE1sS4 ;)
Seems like a good long term list, although Lee and Sabathia may drop off due to age within a few years no?
underdog - January 18, 2012
Yep.
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
Can’t fight the seether.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Veruca Salt!
VeroJoe - January 18, 2012
I’d say long term Verlander will fall fast. Great Tiger pitchers don’t have any staying power:)
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Hal Newhouser?
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Well yes
I didn’t quite manage the long-term aspect as well as I’d have liked.
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
You’ve got a Weaver and a Carpenter, all you are missing is a Chef or a Blacksmith.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
Perhaps a Fletcher or a Cooper or a Haberdasher.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Going long term I have no problem with Kershaw being number 1
I’d have Lee behind Halladay, and move Strasburg down behind them (for now). I’d move Lincecum behind Strasburg.
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
How close is Matt Moore to making your long term list?
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
One good season this year and I'd definitely add him
I just think most of these guys are going to still be great 3 years from now, with the exception of maybe Carpenter. If Moore has a good rookie season, he could move to the middle of that list for sure.
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
Darvish deadline is today right?
I hope he goes back to Japan and we sign him next year. Please please please.
Venergy - January 18, 2012 via mobile
hahaha
Tommy Blackjack - January 18, 2012 via iPhone app
the announcement that the Rangers bid was
The top one was made on December 19th so today is the 30 day cutoff to announce a signed agreement.
bhsportsguy - January 18, 2012 via iPhone app
Rangers have 30 days from whenever the day they won the bid. I don’t remember when the bid was announced but they have much longer than today.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012 via mobile
Deadline is
today.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
Time flies
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
must’ve been all that watch talk. :)
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
Haha
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
Haven’t had a dream in a long time.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Does Carpenter deserve recognition over Weaver, Haren & Granick (Greinke)? I keep thinking that age will catch up to him, but the guy keeps grinding…also isn’t Latos going to get some props if he continues his incline?
VeroJoe - January 18, 2012
"Incline"
is not how I would describe Latos’s trajectory from 2010 to last year.
court168627 - January 18, 2012
what would you call it? A decline?
VeroJoe - January 18, 2012
Yes.
court168627 - January 18, 2012
Unless you're talking about...
ERA, WHIP, FIP, BB/9….Those things all inclined.
court168627 - January 18, 2012
I still like him, and think his future is very bright. Great frame, great velocity….just bad support.
VeroJoe - January 18, 2012
Agreed.
court168627 - January 18, 2012
Carpenter is a bonafide postseason hero. Hard to take that away from him. Shutting out Philly last year was semi-legendary.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Agreed! Dude is a beast
VeroJoe - January 18, 2012
Seriously, every season it seems like I have a chance to draft him in fantasy baseball and every season i think “he’s old and due for a decline.” Needless to say every season i regret that decision.
court168627 - January 18, 2012
I am of the same mindset
VeroJoe - January 18, 2012
Other(s)
Gallardo, J.Johnson, and Strasburg
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
I think Johnson is sick, but I also think he has to bounce back. Much in the way of Beckett.
VeroJoe - January 18, 2012
He has to be healthy, just like Strasburg.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
Becket simply sucked in 2010, so he had to bounceback from sucking.
Josh Johnson was just about the best pitcher in 2011 until he got hurt. He simply has to be healthy.
Both of them can kiss Kid Kershaw’s ass.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
can you define bounceback for me?
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
only if you kiss Kid Kershaw’s ass first
VeroJoe - January 18, 2012
I'd definitely put Johnson on there
If he could stay healthy. But going off pure talent i’d actually have him top 5.
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
Yes,
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
Let me make sure I am correct here
(
This means that if it goes to the 3 man panel he will get 10 million or 6.5? My boss is saying (which I thought he was wrong from the beginning) that he could end up with a higher amount than 10. I’d love to own him in our next conversation wtih some supported information :)
Dodgerblue8188 - January 18, 2012
that it correct
If it goes to the hearing, Clayton will get one or the other.
Tommy Blackjack - January 18, 2012 via iPhone app
Yes. If it goes to arb, he gets 6.5 or 10. Nothing in between. If they settle, he gets something in between. Either way, the chance that he makes more than 10 mil next season is 0%.
court168627 - January 18, 2012
but remember
when owning your boss, he’s still your boss. own him gently.
court168627 - January 18, 2012
You: “No, you’re wrong about Clayton Kershaw’s arbitration hearing. if it goes to a hearing, he will be awarded one sum or the other per the MLB Collective Bargaining Agreement”
Boss: “You got bullied into that conversation, Danny, by everyone. By Dawson. By Galloway. Shit, I practically dared you. You got bullied into that courtroom by the memory of a dead lawyer.”
You: “You’re a lousy fucking softball player, Jack!”
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
I’m not sure what made you think of that movie, but well done
Michael White - January 18, 2012
being really fucking angry at someone, insulting them, but having it be something they just shrug off ☺
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
Such a great movie
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
Your boss is absolutely wrong
Michael White - January 18, 2012
most bosses usually are. :)
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
Magna Carta ftw
kinbote - January 18, 2012
haha
he’s a CPA so he’s probably thinking of other arbitration type cases in other aspects of the real world..does anybody havea link to show how it specifically states either or contract amount?
Dodgerblue8188 - January 18, 2012
Just google major league baseball arbitration. You’ll find a ton.
David Young - January 18, 2012
Check it out on Wikipedia.
fbihop - January 18, 2012
or AOL news
kinbote - January 18, 2012
eight more hours to find out if I was dead right about Yu or dead wrong
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Cue Europe
Tommy Blackjack - January 18, 2012 via iPhone app
Doo-doo-doo-dooo Doo-doo-doo-doo-doo
kinbote - January 18, 2012
What was your prediction?
Michael White - January 18, 2012
Hell would freeze before a noted Japanese pitcher would sign up to pitch in the hell hole called Fort Worth, Texas.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Right…I remember now
Michael White - January 18, 2012
Everyone has a price. I’m sure Texas has a lot to do with it, but everyone can be bought to do whatever it is you need them to do. Considering even at $13mil a year, he made 500million yen last year in Japan. That’s roughly a 200% increase. Fucking pitch suckah
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
Why should he? He can simply do it all over again and maybe this time he will get the team he wants to pitch for.
Do you really think money is an issue? Whatever his salary is, he’s making more then that in endorsements. Jordan did not build an empire based on his salary.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
nah, i don’t think it’s all the money, just saying everyone has a price
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
This guy agrees
OB12 - January 18, 2012
I will be shocked if no agreement is met. If it isn’t, get ready for Fielder in Tejas.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
FWIW Darvish won’t be a free agent until after 2013, so if he doesn’t sign with Texas he would have to go through the posting system again next year.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
For a guy who is so “great” it is astonishing how many power forwards seem to have “great” games against Blake.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
yeah but can they dunk over a Kia?
VeroJoe - January 18, 2012
your answer was better
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
The “career-ender” as Eric dubbed it.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Only dunk that would beat it is the Emancipation Dunklamation
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
he should have dunked, dropped in through the sunroof, and drove it off the court
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
to Jitlada
kinbote - January 18, 2012
i don’t know if he’s great as much as overly athletic. Much like LeBron when he first came into the league, Blake’s athleticism is otherworldly but he seems to still be learning how to play the game and how to control that athleticism within a team strategy.
You know, if they had a team strategy.
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
The ClipShow!
VeroJoe - January 18, 2012
Oh, they had a strategy yesterday. It was right out of the Joe Torre playbook.
The strategy was, fuck it, try to win, but don’t try to hard. It was the house money’est basketball game I’ve ever seen from the Clips.
Michael White - January 18, 2012
did VDN take his starters and staff into the locker room with 12 seconds left and leave his subs out on the floor for the impending court rush?
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
Close to it
Nobody played more than I think 29 minutes. Resty resterson after awhile.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
VDN
Sounded pissed afterwards
Tommy Blackjack - January 18, 2012 via iPhone app
At one point in the second quarter (when the game was still theoretically winnable) the five on the floor were: Evans, Thompkins, Gomes, Leslie and Courtney Fotson. For those keeping score, that’s two rookie second round picks, a guy from the D- League, a rebounding specialist and Ryan Gomes. Shockingly, that didn’t go well.
Michael White - January 18, 2012
Neither did the original starting five
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
The starting 5 were missing long jumpers (which you’d prefer they didn’t take so many of) but that could have turned around. A few of these shots were just rimming out so it was a bit unlucky.
I actually don’t have a problem with the strategy I just find VDN being pissed afterwards sort of silly. It clearly was a strategy to rest his guys particularly after the beginning of the game started so poorly.
Michael White - January 18, 2012
Maybe we watched two different games. The game was still in question at 1/2 time even with that group of yours playing in the 2nd quarter. It was how the “starters” started the 3rd quarter that put the game into the crapper.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
I’m not blaming the bench at all. Just pointing out Vinny’s motives. In a tight game (Miami and LAL in particular,) Vinny has shortened his bench and rode his starters. Travis Leslie had only played in garbage time before last night. I just think VDN came in with a game plan where he’d have a quick hook if it didn’t look like the game wasn’t going his way and he’d rest his starters. It was a house money game.
Don’t get me wrong, the starters absolutely mailed it in too.
Michael White - January 18, 2012
and he should not be upset about his starters mailing it in?
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Point taken
Michael White - January 18, 2012
VDN
Should be canned, so the Clippers have a chance to do something in the post-season.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
Signed,
Bill Simmons
Michael White - January 18, 2012
“The Lakers will finish 34-32”
Signed Bill Simmons, fan of the 4-8 Celtics.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
has any NBA team other then Clippers / Lakers made a worse trade in the last 12 months then the Celtics?
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
I don’t think to many Clipper fans disagree with the notion that to get to the highest level VDN is not the guy to get them there.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
why not
delias man - January 18, 2012
ask them
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
I think the Clippers should hire Kris Humphries as a player/coach.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
He’d be an excellent addition to the current team.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
If it’s any consolation, the Lakers had the same pattern of effort in their season-opening 3 games in 3 days.
Good effort but a little sloppy in Game 1 (Chicago)
Mailed in the road game in Game 2, embarrassing loss (at Sacramento)
Absolute pasting of a good team at home in Game 3 (Utah)
So congrats to the Clips tonight for their 7th straight home win :)
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
I expected them to get trounced last night so no big deal. Dallas has been hanging around since Sunday Night, they should be well rested, we are not going to win tonight unless somehow Paul and Mo are both playing. 36 year old point guards are not going to have much in the tank on the final leg of the back to back to back.
That is why I really wanted the win on Monday.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Dallas has only had one day of rest (they played Monday), and I’m guessing they will score more than the 70 they put up against the Lakers. But I still think the Clips can beat them, especially at home.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
Mo is out. He says he’s targeting this weekend. Even so, I think the Clippers can/should win tonight.
Michael White - January 18, 2012
Is Paul playing?
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Haven’t heard anything.
Michael White - January 18, 2012
No way we beat Dallas with only dog tired Billups / Foye available for backcourt duty. Foye is going to feel the 40 minutes on Monday big time Wednesday. He’d barely played before that game.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Oh he’s great and athletic. Better handles then any power forward ever who could also jump out of the building. Still more like Nique at this point and not sure he’ll ever be a defensive factor. He does have unique skills more then just his freakish jumping ability.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Amar’e Stoudamire pre-microfracture surgery?
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
That would be a great name for a blog.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
and a terrible tagger name.
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
Dodgers are on ESPN Sunday Night Baseball on May 20 against the Cardinals at Dodger Stadium
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
i like going to sunday night games
delias man - January 18, 2012
Perfect time for a Kershaw Masterpiece.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
In the gloaming.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
If Kershaw pitches every five days, he will be scheduled to pitch on May 20.
If, however, he pitches every five games (aside from skipping Harang or Capuano so Kershaw can pitch the home opener on April 10) Kershaw will be scheduled to pitch on May 19. If they don’t have Kershaw pitch the home opener, he would be scheduled to pitch on May 20.
But, as always, projecting out the starting rotation more than a few days in advance is a fool’s errand, so take with an enormous grain of salt.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
So you’re saying there’s a chance.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
when we drafted our season tickets last year (full season split up, I got 20 tickets (8 games of 2, 1 game of 4 tickets)) I planned out Kershaw and Billingsley starts, and I think it worked out that I saw Kershaw 6 of the 9 games, billingsley twice and one kuroda.
I was banking on two things: their durability, and Mattingly’s “take the ball every 5th game” mentality. I don’t think he’s skipped the 5th starter very often, opting instead to give the rotation the extra day of rest.
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
Yeah, the only time he skipped the fifth starter last year was in the first week when Jon Garland was out and the Dodgers had an off day. John Ely only got one start, a dreadful one in San Diego that Delias Man, Mike White, and I were all in attendance for.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
lucky you
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
That’s OK, because I also got to see the Dodgers win two games in about three hours with Broxton collecting two saves and Tony Gwynn Jr. beasting out in the shadow of his dad’s statue.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
i remember watching those games from a sports bar down the street.
some BS
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
at least the pizza after was good
delias man - January 18, 2012
Oh yeah, that place (I already forgot the name) was really good.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
Indeed. I think we’ll need to head over there after opening day.
Michael White - January 18, 2012
or before
delias man - January 18, 2012
oh yeah
i bought the dodger tickets today so the dates are done now
delias man - January 18, 2012
Awesome.
Michael White - January 18, 2012
I’m working out my schedule so I can be in San Diego for that whole weekend. I’ll keep you posted.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
Also no rain outs in LA but I’m surprised a road rainout did not mess that up.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
i kind of was too
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
Every time is perfect for a Kershaw Masterpiece.
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
CK Masterpiece: A little sweet but still effective.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
I think you have it wrong? Very sweet and very effective sounds better.
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
I don’t touch the stuff.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
It's too fast
I mean, like 90 mph? Yikes.
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
That's pretty close to the 4 year anniversary of Kershaw's debut
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
I have so much less incentive to watch the Cardinals play
Now that Jim Edmonds has been gone a few years and Pujols is gone too.
I know they will be very good still this year, but without Pujols, I wonder just how good.
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
contend for the division, possible-favorite good.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
Beltran is a good stop gap for pujols
and they have young guys who could be very good like freese and craig iirc. Plus they get wainright back. Seems like they could easily be better this year then last year.
nolander - January 18, 2012
Easily?
All that you said may if they are lucky get them back to the same level, being better, no way.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
I think Beltran and Wainwright can make up for the absence of Pujols.
for one year at least. It could easily go completely wrong with them relying on beltran and berkman, but if they stay healthy and produce…
nolander - January 18, 2012
keep in mind pujols didn't have that great a season last year
nolander - January 18, 2012
Cardinals might win the central, they will not win more then 95 games. They will struggle to win 93.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
93 > 90
Beltran had almost the same value last year as pujols. Wainwright figures to be a big shot in the arm. Long term they would be better off with pujols of course.
nolander - January 18, 2012
I think the removal of Pujols will have a larger effect then the numbers show. Berkman will not repeat what he did, Beltran will need to stay healthy (huge if), everyone seems to assume 29 year old Wainwright will go right back to being one of the best pitchers in the game. They also have a LF playing in CF with no one to back him up should he prove to be illusionary.
And counting on Rafy at SS. This team has zero depth if injuries hit injury prone players like Beltran, Berkman, Rafy, Freese.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
I said could be
if they stay healthy they could easily be better. Could. I’ve acknowledged that it could go wrong, but its not like they are relying on career years from a bunch of players to get there.
nolander - January 18, 2012
Berkman’s numbers will be lower, but not because Pujols is gone. #Regressing #AgingCurves
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
Yes, did not mean to imply one was the result of the other.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Agreed
Cards, Reds, and Brewers will be in a dogfight for the division. Brewers hurt by missing Braun for 50 games, so I would knock them down a slight peg below the other two. But all near the 90-win range IMO.
If I had to pick an order right now…
Cards
Reds
Brewers
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
My sim has that same order, with each team a few wins ahead of the other. Is the Braun suspension official now? Also, the loss of Fielder if he doesn’t resign is pretty big (get it? Fielder big).
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
cause he is fat!
nolander - January 18, 2012
big boned
and not the SF Valley type.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
well
i do declare /fans self
nolander - January 18, 2012
I completely forgot he signed there
Yeah, they should be good for 95 wins if everything clicks.
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
Yes! Favorite to win the NL Central. They have come very close (if not matched) the production lost from Pujols. Still a lot of that depends on a few older, overused or recovering players (Berkman/Furcal, Carpenter, Wainwright) so there is a rather large error bar around this statement.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
high five!
they really need to find long term replacements in the next couple years though. Should have the money to do it, maybe they can sign Votto.
nolander - January 18, 2012
Wainwright probably makes up for Pujols, Freese and Craig have their BABIPs crater/don’t get massive power out of nowhere and aren’t very good, still arguably the best team in the division.
regfairfield - January 18, 2012
Milwaukee minus Braun for 50 won’t be pretty.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
I didn’t realize Theo compensation hadn’t been agreed upon yet:
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/10071355-419/cubs-red-sox-want-bud-selig-to-set-compensation-for-theo-epstein.html
kinbote - January 18, 2012
The compensation will end up being Bobby V’s glasses/mustache disguise, autographed.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
Theo’s gotta be worth at least a middle reliever. Those suckers grow on trees.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Plus I screwed up the joke by sending compensation from Boston instead of to Boston.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
they should’ve made them take Zambrano.
Zambrano and Lackey in the same clubhouse would have been WWF worthy.
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
Ned will trade anything he can for whatever middle reliever it is!
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
I’d like DeWitt to end up in Boston
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
I wouldn't mind if DeWitt ended up in LA.
misses him
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
Career lines
Player A: .253/.298./.423/.721
Player B: .260/.329/.385/.714
kinbote - January 18, 2012
To easy, one is making 8 Million one is making 1 Million.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
One has seen his OPS+ bounce from 74, 76, 112, 102, 55 while the other is never below 90 or above 95 when given a decent number of at bats.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Nail: head
kinbote - January 18, 2012
I am confused. Who is player B?
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
You need to work on your short term comment skills. We don’t pull players out of thin air, something usually precedes the comparisons. Like the player that was being discussed.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Such as Theo Epstein?
Sorry, haven’t been paying enough attention
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
my guess is uribe
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
Probably.
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
Jesus
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Are you saying Jesus couldn’t OPS+ over 100?
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
I dont know, Jesus cant even get to the AFC Championship game, so id say its possible he couldnt OPS+ over 100 as well.
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
He’s spread a little thin nowadays.
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
He certainly can't hit a curve ball
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
The Mariners sure hope he can.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Guzman?
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
There were 2 players in question.
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
Oh wait, Zambrano?
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
yeah
Victor Zambrano
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
yikes
Player A was Uribe
Player B was DeWitt
kinbote - January 18, 2012
=D
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
Good.
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
it was obvious to me
but I was heavily involved yesterday in uribe talk, and always have had a beard-on for dewitt
nolander - January 18, 2012
Go Booribe!
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
Speaking of Sunday Night Baseball
Nats are on twice in the first eight weeks. They have only been on Sunday Night Baseball twice before this season.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
Clippers of baseball
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Stras is their Griffin. Highly touted, missed first year, will be gangbusters in 2012. Jayson Werth was Baron Davis:)
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Does that make Fielder, Chris Paul?
(if it happens)
Tommy Blackjack - January 18, 2012 via iPhone app
Hanley Ramirez
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Is that a rumor?
Tommy Blackjack - January 18, 2012 via iPhone app
No, do you want to start one?
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Yes I do
Tommy Blackjack - January 18, 2012 via iPhone app
/bsi
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
Jordan Zimmerman is DeAndre Jordan
Gio Gonzalez is Chauncey Billups
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
Ian Desmond is Bledsoe.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Nice
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
I was thinking MOrse was Jordan, someone who came out of nowhere (2nd round pick) and became extremely valuable.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Tyler Clippard is Mo Williams
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
Tebow’s gotta be involved.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Weirdly 3 playoff teams are not on SNB at least until June
No Detroit, no Brewers and no DBacks. Also no Giants.
underdog - January 18, 2012
Refresh
Trolly we may sidetrack into politics or religion but no blatant first comments like that.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Sasha Gray is always in beast mode!!!!
She was on Entourage…..then the eminem video “Space Bound”
The girl has mad talent!
VeroJoe - January 18, 2012
G4 too. Agreed.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
dam that Sara Underwood on g4 is so fine… Then I read she was going out with Ryan Seacrest, who is now dating that Julianne Hough or whatever her name is… dam Seacrest puttin in work.
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
Sorry
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
So there should be about 6 Kershaw vs Giants games this year. At least.
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
Don't pay attention to these, I dont think they should be here.
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
Oops.
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
Maybe
It doesn’t always work out that way.
Before his 6 starts against SF in 2011, Kershaw had 4 in 2010, and just one in 2009. And he was in the regular rotation for the whole year all three seasons.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
Wait I can’t see anything what did I just post there?
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
"Should", sadly not "will.
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
no
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
I hope most of them are against Lincecum
Those games were the best last year
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
Exactly.
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
Because we won those games
otherwise it’d be “man, I wish Kershaw didn’t get stuck going up against lincecum. we’d have a better chance to win if we could matchup our ace with anyone else”
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
Absolutely, luckily it turned in our favor.
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
?
What just happened?
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
If you haven’t refreshed your page and still see a comment that has been deleted, if you reply to it your comment gets kicked to the bottom of the page.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
ok
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
thanks
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
If you collect shit, be sure to account for it before going through with a divorce. I thought this story was humorous from Halos Heaven.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
I thought the story was going to end with the lady saying, “There’s a bunch more stuff here. Come over and it’s yours.”
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Haha, that would have been much better.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
that chills my blood
nolander - January 18, 2012
Don’t get divorced.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
this seems like good advice
nolander - January 18, 2012
It’s one of my long-term plans.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Probably not getting married then is the best advice.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
No just selecting well
And behaving well.
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
Or not being an Angels fan.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Advice we can all get behind
Michael White - January 18, 2012
It was specifically for nolander :)
Nolij - January 18, 2012
When people say the divorce rate is 50%
they mean half of all marriages end in divorce, right? I wonder what percentage of people that get married end up divorced? I mean, Larry King alone skews the first number.
David Young - January 18, 2012
If I had something that valuable (whether it be money or just to me)
I’d keep that shit with me, especially if I knew there was a woman scorned involved.
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
What a bitch Tawny Kitaen is!
David Young - January 18, 2012
Before someone asks once again why some Dodger fans pine for Blake DeWitt, they should consider our infield before they hit post.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
A DeWitt/Hairston platoon could’ve been quite useful.
OB12 - January 18, 2012
Yes
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Adam Kennedy really sucked last year. Splitting time among 2b/3b/DH[?], he managed .234/.277/.355/.632. If he ends up splitting time with Mark Ellis, it could be trouble.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Aaron Miles trouble?
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Ha
Now that I’ve finally figured out which Hairston we have, that dude played everywhere last year.
2B—27 games
CF—11
3B—5
LF-1
SS-1
He’s also played RF in his career. Except for 1B & C, he’s done it. Might be the Neddiest signing of the offseason.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Ned’s last signing is always his best. He overpays in the beginning then gets a nice bargain.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
so Hairston
Will win the Jamey Carroll award for beating low expectations? :)
Tommy Blackjack - January 18, 2012 via iPhone app
Carroll did arguably get the two-year contract ball rolling (or did Piazza?).
kinbote - January 18, 2012
I’m onboard. Might be our most versatile player since _________. (I’m thinking Jolbert Cabrera for some reason.)
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Jason Romano?
Nolij - January 18, 2012
That name is like a kick to the ribs. I almost typed Hiram Bocachica earlier.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Yeah. These names confirm that “versatile” is a fancy French word for “suck-ass.”
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Ron Coomer did one thing. And he did it well. (What was it again?)
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Put Golden Corrals out of business.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
From his b-r page
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Sometimes it really is that simple
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
he also played 62 games at SS in 2010
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
The “9 positions in a game” trick always seems forced to me, something done out of the norm of regular baseball.
I am curious to know what is the record for most positions played in a single game by one player legitimately, i.e. not done solely to get that player time at a position. My guess would be something like four or five. But I would love to see a bunch of games with that. Might be a future blog post.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
I think Campy Campaneris was the first to do it in 65 that anyone made a big deal out of. Heck of a pitcher
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
I will be waiting for one of the TBLA mods to pull the trick of playing all 11 positions in one game during the softball tournament.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
11 positions? What kind of softball do you play?
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
He has sex right after the game.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
haha @ nolander’s response below, but I was thinking for you that bench would be one of the positions. :)
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
I mean kinbote’s, and above not below. :)
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
Given how many players we have, bench will probably be my main position.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
How many do you have? I assume everyone bats and that is half the fun.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
14 at last count.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
It is probably good to have extras, because someone will inevitably not be able to play due to injury, scheduling conflict or over eating/drinking between games. But if you have 14 for any one game then it does get a little crowded unless you have people that don’t mind DHing or just playing a few innings in the field. Perfect number is around 11 or 12, but given this type of format 14 could be perfect. Hopefully, ever team has an experienced slow-pitch softball pitcher. It is a lot harder than it looks and sucks to walk 6 or 7 batters an inning.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
Do we (DT) have an experienced pitcher? I’ve played middle IF/OF my entire softball “career”.
I do not mind sitting out innings, especially after running the bases. The BLD fields have fast outfields and deep fences.
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
Not sure. Which team is robotmadeofnails on. He is the only one I know who pitches. Hopefully the organizer placed a pitcher on each team.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
Neither, he could not make it.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Sounds like athletic outfielders will be needed. I did see a Dexter Fowler that signed up.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
Thanks, I was our coach from 1985 – 2005 so I kind of know how it works.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
So you should be eligible for the Hall of Fame pretty soon! :)
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
I just paid.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Where and when is this soiree again?
I may try to play the fan position
mleadman - January 18, 2012
11 February 2012
West Covina Big League Dreams
There’s a bar in the Stadium Club, which overlooks the fields, so please come by.
Usually, there’s an entrance fee, so check and see if it applies that day.
Also, I wonder if the $35 entry fee covers the facility entrance fee as well?
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
Yes, at least in past tournaments at Big League Dreams it did.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Did you guys see the game where
they move Jose Bautista over from third base to shallow right field and he subsequently caught two pop up right to him?
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
Bautista plays RF a fair amount
I got to listen to a guy call him Juan Rivera for 2 hours on opening night in Anaheim.
nolander - January 18, 2012
I will state boldly for the record that if Juan Rivera says “fuck it” and starts pulling every ball into the left field stands and has a Bautistan 50+ home run season, the Dodgers will be strong contenders in the NL West.
Bold.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
Exercise the 2013 club option now!
kinbote - January 18, 2012
I'm guessing it would have to be a team battling injuries
with an injury or two in the current game, and possibly a blowout.
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
have you seen don and his double switch fetish?
its gonna happen.
nolander - January 18, 2012
“Really sucked”=.632
Aaron Miles=.660
Nolij - January 18, 2012
That is sobering.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
We were barely a .500 team for a reason
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Drives me to drink
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
Short drive
kinbote - January 18, 2012
It was a walk
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
DeWitt is whatever, I dont care who we got in our INF, never did care for DeWitt.
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
I may have felt that way until I realized how fast he was.
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
Are you sure you are thinking of DeWitt? I thought he had average speed at best.
OB12 - January 18, 2012
yeah with a crappy glove, couldnt turn a DP for shit, thats the DeWitt I remember… but I dont have that good a memory.
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
actually my bad, glove was ok I guess, just didnt play very well at 2B from what I remember.
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
DeWitt’s average speed excites him.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
He hit a lot of triples and once an inside-the-parker.
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
George Brett hit a lot of triples too.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
just curious – have you watched Dodger baseball?
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Occasionally,
Though I don’t have a TV so I watch the highlights afterwards.
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
Can I ask why you dont have a TV?
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
Apart from sports, A) It’s kinda expensive, and b) It’s a waste of time when you aren’t watching sports.
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
Okay, that makes sense. He’s got average speed. He’s pretty much average across the board.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Inside the park HRs are usually more indicative of defensive misplay than speed.
OB12 - January 18, 2012
I may have been wrong at the time.
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
But I still thought he had some speed.
DodgerofTrolleys - January 18, 2012
Rod Barajas also has “some speed.”
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Chris Farley had "some speed"
delias man - January 18, 2012
I'd rather pine for Ian Kinsler or Brandon Phillips
than a below average hitting and around average fielding 2B.
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
If you want to win $200 worth of pizza from a Texas restaurant, you can enter the Mike Napoli pizza naming contest.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
“The Hot Mom Nip Slip”. Thick crust, pepperoni.
David Young - January 18, 2012
Hey Mike
I’ve been meaning to ask you this since yesterday, but on the ESPN NBA Today podcast yesterday, Ric Bucher said if Minnesota gave a max contract to Kevin Love it would “be the death knell of the franchise.” Bucher does not think highly of Love’s game, but then again Bucher called LeBron “more of a glue guy” last year.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
Oh, I guess the question is, “what do you think of Ric Bucher?”
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
{horse whinny sound}
Oh wait, that’s for Frau Blucher.
underdog - January 18, 2012
He’s absolutely wrong about Kevin Love and Lebron. Otherwise I don’t follow him on Twitter or anything so I don’t have much of an opinion.
Michael White - January 18, 2012
Personally I dont like most of the ESPN bball analysts. From Bucher, to Legler, I cant stand them and think they provide zero…..
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
Curious, I’ve yet to see Love play this year, but the numbers are awesome.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
I would trade Pau for KLove straight up.
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
everyone would, except the Wolves.
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
Ya, I’d say that’s a no-brainer (for Laker fans)
Michael White - January 18, 2012
Not sure what is wrong with the Clipper PA Announcer but he made a few flubs on Monday which reminded me of opening night.
Coming into the season Mo Williams was expected to be the starting point guard for the Clips and was making a big deal about how happy he was and how he was going to help take this team to the next level. Then they got Billups in the Amnesty deal and he was a little upset. Then they got Paul and he was like WTF. So they calmed him down, telling how valuable he was going to be coming off the bench. He was still not thrilled.
So on opening night they do the player introductions, and when it was time for Mo Williams the announcer called him Chauncy Billups. It was so awkward because he’d already announced Billups long before.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Ouch
Michael White - January 18, 2012
YIKES!
Did the record skip too?
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
I knew about the home opener, that was funny. What happened on Monday?
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
No big deals, but he was making lots of mistakes based on the ref calls that seemed apparent to the rest of us.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Oh that’s weak.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
True, but it gave me a way to get my story in.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Haha, I meant weak of the announcer.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
Streaming video
Does it kill battery life faster on your iPhone/iPod? Because I could probably waste hours at my desk now that there’s a WiFi connection here.
silverwidow - January 18, 2012
Yes.
regfairfield - January 18, 2012
yes
video will kill your phone faster then anything else
nolander - January 18, 2012
radio star?
kinbote - January 18, 2012
this has me chuckling, lol
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
Chuckling too much to rec the comment!
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
CTMTRTC
kinbote - January 18, 2012
it's out of control!
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
You are the 80s music kid :)
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Absolutely :)
Give me a good 80s station and i’m good
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
Good to know. But it’s still fun to YouTube on the go. That’s some killer technology right there.
silverwidow - January 18, 2012
I like to watch Mickey and Donald Duck cartoons when I can’t sleep
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
I was watching some wrestling at work. haha
silverwidow - January 18, 2012
Older stuff or this weeks Raw?
I want people to talk wrestling with but rarely do :)
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
Older stuff
but I did catch a little of Jericho’s act on Monday. Funny gimmick.
silverwidow - January 18, 2012
I'm enjoying what he's doing
essentially trolling the fans, it’s great, lol. I love watching old youtube stuff from the attitude era, that stuff is awesome.
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
When I worked at the iphone fixing place
Occassionally i’d keep a phone at my work space and use it to watch youtube or netflix while i was working (more listen to it than anything). It really helps the day go by much faster.
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
Is that next to the gettin’ place?
kinbote - January 18, 2012
I don't follow
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
Ignore
kinbote - January 18, 2012
I appreciated it
any No Country for Old men reference is welcome.
mleadman - January 18, 2012
across from the laughin’ place
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
faster than vidya games?
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
those display video
so they count! Plus I don’t consider phones and itouch thingies to be valid gaming machines /snob
nolander - January 18, 2012
oh they aren’t, I truly don’t understand why EA Sports is making iPhone compatible games for a device that should be used for nothing over 8 bit game boy style games
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
because stupid people like playing stupid games on their phone
a) people don’t care about depth in their games anymore
b)Developers have also decided they are willing to put in a ton of work and then sell that product for far far less then ever before.
nolander - January 18, 2012
I guess, I’ve just found that arcade style games like Jetpack or Where’s my Water are the kinds of games I want on my phone to kill time waiting for the bus, whereas playing Tiger Woods just felt odd
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
I’m afraid to ask what “Where’s my Water” is about.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
it’s a Disney game where you have to get the water into the pipe so an alligator can take a bath, but there are all these obstacles in the way.
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
lemmings?
nolander - January 18, 2012
OK
That makes sense.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Where's My Water?
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
First World Game?
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Is it Al from Can You Teach My Alligator Manners?
Nolij - January 18, 2012
I would think golf could work pretty well
considering the number of golf arcade games that use a track ball.
nolander - January 18, 2012
sure, simple arcade golf absolutely. Tiger Woods career mode, multiple course thing was too much for killing time
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
The Tiger Woods game was very disappointing. NBA Jam is pretty fun though.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Absolutely
I’ve killed 15-20% of my battery in an hour and a half just watching netflix. That’s with a somewhat new battery.
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
showtime choosing the marlins for The Franchise
makes too much sense
nolander - January 18, 2012
Ozzie + Zambrano + Reyes + Hanley + Stanton + JJ + Psychedelic Fish Magic = Ratings
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Hell you forgot Morrison who might be the biggest tool on the team. I might even watch that and I don’t watch that shit.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
NL East will be a fun division.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
This guy too (from ESPN)
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Joe McDonald looks much worse after losing all his weight. Does anyone know if he’s terminal, because he appears to have big time health problems.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Where do you see him at?
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
His dreams
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
he was at the Clipper game Monday. Could barely move. It looked like he had lost all the weight in his upper body but was having a very hard time moving his legs. Then in the 2nd half he just put his head down and went to sleep. My seats are two rows from where the media sits, he did not look good.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
maybe he just found out his ice queen ex wife had just sold his precious memorabilia for nothing.
nolander - January 18, 2012
or his video star ex wife had beaten him with a shoe in a moving car
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Wikipedia is down, who is Joe McDonald? Lakers or Clippers broadcaster? or sideline reporter?
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
He’s an LA sports radio institution.
Wasn’t he one who asked Lasorda about Dave Kingman?
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
Is he a Mason and Ireland type of guy?
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
He is a LA radio sports talk icon I guess… but never could keep a radio job long it seemed, for whatever reason. You never hear of him much anymore though.
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
Though I didnt like how big on WWF/E wrestling he was, shit is fake bro.
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
Does anyone really watching wrestling with the belief that it’s real? The “it’s fake” thing is pretty dumb because everyone knows what it is: entertainment.
silverwidow - January 18, 2012
children
nolander - January 18, 2012
and yeah, as a kid I didnt want to believe it was fake, just like I didnt want to believe Santa is real too.
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
isnt*
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
I agree with you. I stopped being a big wrestling fan when I was 18 or so, but before that I would get those condescending questions, “You know it’s fake right?” all the time. Ya, no shit it’s fake. So is every movie and television show you watch.
Michael White - January 18, 2012
yeah im the same… I was big into WWF… Hogan is my all time favorite and I probably lost interest in wrestling some time after NWO went away……. but what I was saying is he talked about it on his sports show, even interviewed wrestlers… I dont know, I just never had an interest to hear it talked about on a sports talk show… but oh well.
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
Wrestling, any kind of fighting sport actually, and the NBA are all “fake”.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
loved the last part of this, lol
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
it's fixed
Not fake
Tommy Blackjack - January 18, 2012 via iPhone app
Also this
There are a bunch of horribly painful things that occur, lol.
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
So?
Do you not like movies because they aren’t reality?
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
I guess the blackout worked by the way.
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
County Joe?
Too much pot…
Dodgers1981 - January 18, 2012
I feel like I'm fixin to die
Dodgers1981 - January 18, 2012
That's Country Joe - not county
Dodgers1981 - January 18, 2012
Softball Tournament Question
LFP didn’t state in the rules which bats are going to be allowed. I want to assume that only ASA bats would be allowed, but I can see “softball-guy” bringing a rolled USSSA bat because he wasn’t told he couldn’t.
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
Good question
I’d email him. I would think no composite bats. I would also hope they provide some bats. Those things are pretty expensive and how many of us have our own softball bats?
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
I have a couple. One really good one and the first one I bought. Both are ASA bats and they will be shared with the team, of course.
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
Ok, that’s nice. I will provide the seeds.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
Make DT team plans on your own board!
Nolij - January 18, 2012
but we’re TBLA cast-offs. Had I slacked earlier in the work day, maybe I would’ve signed up in time to be on the TBLA team.
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
I have
the official bat of TBLA, as shown at the picnic:
David Young - January 18, 2012
Composite bats are standard fare
There are different certifications. ASA bats are the standard lower-league/Co-ed league bats, and USSSA bats are the hot bats that could kill someone.
Also, while this is a tournament, what’s the expected level of competitiveness? Personally, I just want to meet most of you guys and share some drinks. I don’t want to have to worry about take-out slides at second-base.
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
I plan to play this as a tournament level game.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Just don’t be that guy wearing baseball pants at a softball game.
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
What other kind of pants are there? I’m not wearing shorts, sweats or jeans?
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
I was confused myself
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
I just hope I get my Pujols jersey shipped in time.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
I'm wearing these
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
You might be leaving with a new boyfriend if you do. Not that there is anything wrong with that of course.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
I heard that one was on TBS last night
classic
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
Hilarious
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
I’ve always played softball in shorts and a sliding pad.
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
Awesome. I will be the dork in the baseball pants then.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
Winter night leagues in the SFV can get pretty dang cold. There was no way I wasn’t wearing baseball pants. Occasionally had to wear thermals under that.
David Young - January 18, 2012
If court is coming
He’ll be pulling off the Sandlot look with the blue jeans
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
PF Flyers too?
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
I think he wore converse last time
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
i confirm this. also, i sogned for the softball game and never heard back from any blog. im assuming that im not playing.
court168627 - January 18, 2012 via Android app
email this guy
thelfp.com@gmail.com
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
will do
thanks
court168627 - January 18, 2012 via Android app
We gotta have you on team TBLA!
Otherwise on another blog I will destroy you!
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
You got a fireplace?
Nolij - January 18, 2012
This thing is intense. It pits Stallion vs. Stallion. Prepare for battle!
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Better tell your catcher not to wander up the line.
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
I think it is a casual just for fun affair. Not hurting someone takes precedence over trying to make a play.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
We all say that until the game gets close and then competitiveness takes over.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
if anyone takes out Weisman at 2B they have to answer to me!
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
I suggest you make a good feed
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Your first base coach might want to wear a helmet. #JustSayin
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
I know if it comes down to it
I will plow over Bette Midler at home plate to win the game.
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
You are the wind beneath my wings.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
ftfy
I will plow
overBette Midler at home plate to win the game.kinbote - January 18, 2012
but what about hurting yourself?
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
Who doesn’t?
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Good stuff
http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/1/17/2696559/the-baseball-player-name-hall-of-fame-the-class-of-2012
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Would suck
to be on a cruise ship that was sinking. Better than an airplane that was sinking of course, but that ordeal in Italy is pretty bad.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
would suck unless I survived, and now im getting a fat payday out of a lawsuit.
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
Sinking and sideways not fun.
I’m very curious how this happened, not like reefs just show up.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
I have a friend
who works for Princess Cruises, which is owned by Carnival, which owns the sunken ship. She has not been too talkative lately. Their stock sank almost as fast as the ship
mleadman - January 18, 2012
The Greek captain did not believe in going down with his ship. The conversation between he and the coast guard was interesting.
Get on your boat and do your job
I can do my job from the safety of the life boat
Get on your boat and do your job
I can do my job from the safety of the life boat
Get on your boat and do your job
I can do my job from the safety of the life boat
Get on your boat and do your job
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
My wife just upgraded us to a balcony room instead of interior room on our summer cruise after this happened. I told her don’t worry the Carribean is warm, it’s just the sharks you have to watch out for. Plus I don’t really see myself jumping off of the balcony in an accident.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
especially if you’re on the side that the ship tips onto. Imagine that.
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
I’ll be sure not to mention that, otherwise we will have two balcony rooms. One on each side!
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
Just don't get
the DiCaprio suite
mleadman - January 18, 2012
Balcony Room is what I had, its the way to go forsure…
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
Thinking the Captain was drunk.
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
who wants to take a cruise anyways? I would be bored in 20 minutes
delias man - January 18, 2012
I do, shit is fun…. Its like a vegas casino in a boat, sort of…. you got casino, you got a sports bar, you got a club, you got karaoke bar, you got an auditorium with shows every night… you got alcohol everywhere. oh, and all the pools, and much more that I didnt mention… oh and you stop off at a city here and there and get to do stuff there too.
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
Yeah, cruises are great. Comfortable way to see some interesting places. I don’t see how they make money with 1,100 person staffs and all the loads of food there is to eat, plus all the entertainment and stuff.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
booze
the booze
nolander - January 18, 2012
Yes. I would like to see the pie chart of what passengers spend the most money on. I expect booze would be like 80%. They aren’t making it off of my family though. I save my drinking for games Chad Billingsley pitches.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
Do they have wifi?
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
I don’t think so. They have an internet cafe where you pay quite a bit to use their computers and internet. I think I paid $100 for it one cruise.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
man
I would think that would change these days though, as having free wifi would be a big selling point in this modern world.
nolander - January 18, 2012
Perhaps, but it totally defeats the purpose of going on a cruise.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
Really?
Sitting by the pool
Drinking and eating
Watching the Dodgers on the IPAD
Isn’t that what you spent 1000’s to do?
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
1000s? A seven-day Mexican Riviera cruise can be done for $500/person. That covers your lodging and your food, plus entertainment. That’s a fairly inexpensive vacation. Sure the cabin is significantly smaller than a hotel room, but I don’t spend a lot of time in it. A cruise is a way for me to simply relax and enjoy. I don’t have to make decisions about where to eat, what to do, etc. etc.
David Young - January 18, 2012
Spoken like the two time defending shuffle board champion that you are!
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
basically, you’re paying 500 for a week in a floating hotel. Or you could spend 900 to stay a week in a landlocked hotel. Which isn’t on the fucking Ocean going to multiple exotic places.
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
But you can leave it and go other places.
fbihop - January 18, 2012
gotta pay to go to those other places, now we’re in the 1k range
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
well, thats if you wanna do an excursion…. otherwise you can go to a senior frogs… but yeah you gotta pay for that… or any gum and fake silver you buy along the way.
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
Many excursions are double-digit in cost. A seven-day cruise will typically have three ports of call. If you do one in each place, < 800 simolians.
I should clarify that the $500 didn’t include gratuities.
David Young - January 18, 2012
You can leave the boat without paying for an excursion.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Of course.
David Young - January 18, 2012
yeah… and buying drinks from the bars isnt that cheap from what I remember….now what I should of done was buy a bottle from the gift shop, because with no duties and taxes it was crazy cheap…. But now ive been told you can get the alcohol you buy from the store on the cruise until AFTER the cruise… is that true?
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
Right. You can’t buy that booze and drink it on the ship. And you are limited to how much you can bring back into the US, like 4 liters.
David Young - January 18, 2012
yeah I remember that, limit on alcohol, cigarettes, and any cuban cigar was a 1000 fine or somethin.
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
but you can usually bring a bottle or two aboard
and sneak more if you want
nolander - January 18, 2012
When you first board from the U.S. maybe. Not from the ports.
David Young - January 18, 2012
I dont think you can from the US either, because my bro and his friends got caught trying to smuggle Jack daniles in a Brisk Ice tea bottle. Couldnt bring it on…. I did buy tequilla from a port in meixco, cant remember what happened… If they brought to my room later, or after the cruise you get it also?
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
After the cruise. Or you drank it on land before you got back.
David Young - January 18, 2012
sounds right since he can't remember...
nolander - January 18, 2012
Which would explain the not remembering
mleadman - January 18, 2012
and won’t tip over
and you won’t fall off of
and won’t give you Legionairre’s Disease
mleadman - January 18, 2012
What’s life w/out a little danger?
Didn’t Legionaire’s Disease first get infamous, and named for, a convention in a Philly hotel?
David Young - January 18, 2012
key word
Philly. I’d rather go on a cruise of North Korean ports than stay a night in Philly
mleadman - January 18, 2012
WC Leadman
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Philly has bounced back from the 80s
Pure Azure - January 18, 2012
Or get murdered like Charlotte Charles. But things worked out ok for her.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
It’s becoming more available and cheaper. It’s included with higher end rooms.
Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache - January 18, 2012
when I last went, I couldnt even get cellphone reception…
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
That’s a bit difficult in the middle of a fucking ocean!
David Young - January 18, 2012
That said, many lines offer “cellular at sea”, which is rather expensive. I just drop off the grid instead.
I have a 7-day cruise booked in late April, looking forward to catching up on > 100,000 comments.
David Young - January 18, 2012
I could see land from my room haha… yeah my bad.
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
I used to work with a guy who did pricing for cruise lines, he said their revenue is usually right around even thirds for fares, booze, and casino/onboard shopping.
Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache - January 18, 2012
I think that's it
My family went on one of those Mexican cruises 20 years ago (I didn’t go) and their booze tab was incredible.
mleadman - January 18, 2012
Hell yeah, dude I totally forgot about the food… You get to eat dinner with the captain, but you gotta dress up…… its not bad, steak, lobster, things like that….. then the regular food, buffet style, awesome…. and 24 hour pizza, HOLLA!
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
I enjoy cruising.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
I hear you
not many things interest me less
mleadman - January 18, 2012
If a cruise is boring, what do you guys do thats more exciting then that?? better be good haha
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
Not go on cruises?
fbihop - January 18, 2012
I could enjoy a cruise for like... a day or two
maybe 3. After that I would probably go insane
nolander - January 18, 2012
I’ve only been once… If you guys are saying this having been on a cruise, then I got nothing…. But if you havent been on a cruise, then I bet its different then you think it is… It was for me…. Only beef I had was they didnt have the USC vs Virginia Tech game on the boat, I believe Leinarts 1st start as USC QB, and all the people trying to sell you shit when you dock in mexican cities, thats about it.
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
Leinarts first start was a 22-0 pasting of then #3 Auburn @ Jordan-Hare Stadium. Where’s that SEC pride now?
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
Yeah it was Auburn then, I guess, that sounds right.
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
Guessing it’s probably tied to the six straight BCS championships.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
Yeah, but besides that, whatta they got?
mleadman - January 18, 2012
Had to get all factual, huh
The SEC was lucky that they missed USC in its prime. And this is coming from a UCLA-fan. My loathing of the SEC runs even deeper than the USC-UCLA rivalry. I hope USC runs the table next year and finally gets the SEC in the BCS Championship game.
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
USC in it’s prime ran into Young.
Which prime are we talking about?
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
I think USC’s 2004 team that waxed Adrian Peterson’s Oklahoma team was the best one. It was definitely the most balanced. The 2005 iteration didn’t have the defense, which is why the USC-Texas game became a shoot-out.
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
though they did play at V Tech the next year, so maybe it wasnt Leinarts 1st start…. I forgot, anyways, sports is limited on crusies, sucks.
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
Which is why you get off of the boat at the ports.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
its like when you go visit your relatives in arkansas
it is great for a couple hours, then you are counting down the hours for the return flight in 3 days
delias man - January 18, 2012
I have never been on a cruise, but it is something I want to do just to do it.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
Very sad story
I’ve spent a lot of time in that neck of the woods.
http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/176678 (It’s a shape poem AND an elegy)
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Not being able to connect to the wifi on my computer is so damn frustrating. Luckily I have unlimited data and can tether my phone. But it is still frustrating.
fbihop - January 18, 2012
makes me think back to the time we had no cell phones, no laptops, none of this, how did we survive?
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
newspapers and talkin to folk
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
I miss those days!… I hate it now when I have a group of friends over to watch a game, and everytime I look over, everyone is looking at their cellphone.
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
well
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2011/03/09
nolander - January 18, 2012
Yeah, it is wierd to go somewhere where there are large groups of teenagers because they will all be standing around and instead of talking to each other they all have their phones out texting. Seems so lame. 1980s ftw.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
at least we aren't all on coke
nolander - January 18, 2012
And don’t have to listen to Wham.
fbihop - January 18, 2012
The other guy from Wham
Peter Scolari
Salieri
kinbote - January 18, 2012
friend of mine
worked with Scolari a couple years on the Honey I Shrunk the Kids TV show. He said Scolari is still a little bitter about Tom Hanks success. He’s also a big time Scotch snob
mleadman - January 18, 2012
Larry Wilcox
Nolij - January 18, 2012
When my son and I go out to eat, we end up sitting at the table fiddling with our phones.
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
yeah I cant help but look at my phone, even when im watching a movie in the theatre…. im ashamed.
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
You are an amazing contradiction
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
haha, sports is more important then a movie, to me.
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
I cant stand it when I go to a restaurant now and every kid sitting at a table has fuckin ipod earplugs in…WTF? Do you really need to listen to music that bad?? Im more upset with the parents for allowing it, but I guess its a good way to shut your kids up these days… I dont allow that shit though.
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
THIS.
Especially the craptastic music kids listen to nowadays.
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
You guys are not far from “get off my lawn” stage.
David Young - January 18, 2012
Well, I’m working and since I’m a political blogger, having internet is pretty important to being able to do my job.
fbihop - January 18, 2012
Well, luckily for you there aren’t any political stories going on recently.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
Yeah, good thing.
fbihop - January 18, 2012
There was Mrs Palm of course and her five sisters who you could always chat up.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
ah, Thee original Wii. Chris, dinner is ready!!.. Hold on Mom, im trying to get to the next level!
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
magazines were a thing, and a lot of faxing. Writtin’ letters, maillin em off.
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
In Back to the Future 2, you knew it was the future, because fax machines were so prevalent.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Here’s a video on an “internet” from 1969. And yet, no “future” movies incorporated the idea of a personal computer let alone a network of them.
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
Arthur C. Clark
nolander - January 18, 2012
he pretty much nails it at 1:55
from 1964. Arthur C Clark is such a boss.
nolander - January 18, 2012
And productivity will plummet as a result : )
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
Mind. Blown. I imagine Hollywood directors have some version of this speech that they’re operating on when they make the future simply an extension of the present, but probably not as well said.
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
That is because SciFi movies are lame compared to the great stuff what was written in the 30’s – 60’s.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Who are the good hard sci fi righters of today?
are there any? Most everything now days is soap opera or “soft” sci fi
nolander - January 18, 2012
Don’t know.
I was a big fan of David Brin but he 80-90’s guy. Have not read any new writers this decade.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
all my sources I would trust to do research for this are down today
nolander - January 18, 2012
I think I need to read Forever War
nolander - January 18, 2012
x
fbihop - January 18, 2012
not my field
but Margaret Atwood is highly regarded and P.D. James wrote the excellent “The Children of Men.”
kinbote - January 18, 2012
not that either is strictly “sci-fi”—i recuse myself from this discussion
kinbote - January 18, 2012
My cousin is a well-regarded sci-fi author. That’s not my scene, so I haven’t read his stuff. His name is Daniel Abraham.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
If only Wikipedia were working today
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
if only
nolander - January 18, 2012
i see he is in albuquerque
someone throw up the fbihop signal
nolander - January 18, 2012
And George RR Martin lives in Santa Fe.
fbihop - January 18, 2012
In another life I will read his stuff. Super-impressed with his storytelling via the show.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Yep. He collaborates with some frequency with George RR Martin (Game of Thrones), who lives in NM also.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
so its true what they say about writers and suffering?
nolander - January 18, 2012
writing leads to hate. Hate, leads to suffering. Suffering, leads to new mexico.
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
flip that and reverse it
nolander - January 18, 2012
Smack it up, flip it, rub it down
Oh no
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
Is he fat?
Humma Kavula - January 18, 2012
Actually, no.
Nolij - January 19, 2012
Most of my sci-fi budget is being eaten by David Weber and that is really military Sci-Fi.
Grimjack - January 18, 2012
Bride adores Connie Willis.
Humma Kavula - January 18, 2012
right article
drive to office, type article, hand article to someone, someone goes down to printing press and moves knobs around, and then prints it. some other guy takes the printed things and takes them to some other dude who yells PAPERS, GET YOUR PAPERS
nolander - January 18, 2012
wrong article
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
left article
fbihop - January 18, 2012
I liked this headline
Hollywood Hills combed after discovery of head
mleadman - January 18, 2012
Man, we aint found shit!
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
Excellent
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
LOL
Spaceballs FTMFW
Tommy Blackjack - January 18, 2012 via iPhone app
Love it
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
Friend of mine jest said that they found a hand. She does not want to hike up there any more.
Grimjack - January 18, 2012
My fav headline of the last week: Porn Industry To Pull Out Over Condom Law
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
My iPhone says
for playback of Youtube videos, I have 8.5 hours.
My question for SW is why not just bring a charger into the office and then keep your phone charged all day.
bhsportsguy - January 18, 2012
That's on
battery (8.5 hours).
bhsportsguy - January 18, 2012
delete all the things!
nolander - January 18, 2012
Thank you internet, specifically youtube
for giving us Sad Packers fan
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
Angry River fan still wins
NSFW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zeu4BrOkZF0
delias man - January 18, 2012
seven minutes? I’ll watch, but come on, edit that man
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
it is 7 minutes of gold
delias man - January 18, 2012
she wore the sparkles?
Blame her
Tommy Blackjack - January 18, 2012 via iPhone app
I guess he really does love LA
I figured he was a goner after that championship game.
underdog - January 18, 2012
Josie FTMFW
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
I say he’s coming back, and all I get are naysayers. Like I was at a horse convention.
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
Hay, now those same folks should pony up whatever you bet them
Poor Josie was screaming herself horse.
underdog - January 18, 2012
Nah it's cool
Don’t help me out or anything: http://www.lagconfidential.com/2012/1/18/2716384/three-star-daily-jan-18th-david-beckham-set-to-announce-return
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
Hah I'll comment over there. Just to help you out
and not because god forbid I should post something “off topic” in this thread. ;)
underdog - January 18, 2012
it’s not as bad as it used to be over there, views are up and I"ve got three or four regular commenters. Still, much appreciated : )
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
Sorry
I could never join a soccer blog :P
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
In Soviet Russia, you don’t join soccer blog. Soccer blog joins you!
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
sweet, were going back to back forsure.
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
haha
underdog - January 18, 2012
Good question.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Practice
mleadman - January 18, 2012
What are we talkin' about here, man?
We’re talking about practice, not the game.
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
via mlbtraderumors
kinbote - January 18, 2012
One BEEEEEELLION yen
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Kershaw, Strasburg, Darvish = 2012 boner
silverwidow - January 18, 2012
stop that
nolander - January 18, 2012
what was Dice K/s bb/9 in japan?
nolander - January 18, 2012
gotta stop talking about boners man
Now if these guys were all Dodgers, maybe, lol.
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
Story here
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
No pressure
That’s just Nolan Ryan sitting directly behind home plate. Now go get ’em, kid!
kinbote - January 18, 2012
dammit
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Haha
silverwidow - January 18, 2012
ok
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v330iK2rqFw
nolander - January 18, 2012
Silverwidow 2012 boner = Evan Silva
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
This erection appears to be lasting more than eight hours.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
I couldn’t stop laughing at this whole sequence during lunch.
silverwidow - January 18, 2012
[tips cap] :)
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
The AL West fight is going to be such fun, I just hope Seattle and Oakland don’t get hurt in the process.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Well
it would be nice if they could be like the 70s Reds and Dodgers, good teams, good players, good managers.
bhsportsguy - January 18, 2012
Though
not very good races, most times they just blew out the division.
bhsportsguy - January 18, 2012
Right, still the games were awesome if the races were not.
Still think the opening to the 75 season was the best ever.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Reading about the Dodgers/Reds rivalry in Posnanski’s book, The Machine, was great. I loved how the Reds hated and were confounded by Mike Marshall, and how he would taunt the shit out of them.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
I may have to read this next. I would have expected the Reds to simply wear Joe Rudi faces if he was giving them shit.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Fantastic book. I’ll bring it Sunday
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
Thanks, but I’ll buy it for my Nook, need to get a start on my electronic library.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
What's Sunday?
mleadman - January 18, 2012
It’s the day that comes after Saturday. Usually reserved for rest and/or worship. But that’s not important right now.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
I was asking for that
mleadman - January 18, 2012
Martin, check your email at charter:)
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
No one calls me Martin
except my creditors
mleadman - January 18, 2012
Guess you know what kind of email it is :)
Tommy Blackjack - January 18, 2012 via iPhone app
I was about to say
I can bring it on Sunday
bhsportsguy - January 18, 2012
“Your latissimus dorsi are weaker than my abductor digiti minimi!”
Nolij - January 18, 2012
I could see Texas and Anaheim winning 95+ games
It’s gonna be fun to watch
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
Just wait until Texas signs Fielder. Gonna be a kickass race.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
I want the Nats to sign Fielder and for there to be a legitimate four-team race in the NL East (Sorry, Mets). I don’t want no wild card.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Don’t count out Oakland. What they lack in talent they make up for in an old dump of a stadium, and charging for Pepsi
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
Moneyball > Angels in the Outfield
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Ferris Bueller = Naked Gun
kinbote - January 18, 2012
What’s Cubs got to do with it?
Nolij - January 18, 2012
The baseball movie that sucked was the Wesley Snipes/Barry Bonds one. So many tight shots you couldn’t even see the action.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
The Fan. Even movies about the Giants suck.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
The Fan was soooo bad.
I need to rewatch it just to embrace the hate. The monsoon weather in the final game seemed absurd.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
You could play a drinking game of “Count the baseball inaccuracies.”
kinbote - January 18, 2012
i watch it every time it is on
delias man - January 18, 2012
I enjoyed it
despite the crappiness of the movie and the Giants.
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
it's 0-0
who’s winning. The bears.
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
Welcome to Oakland
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
The AL
is going to need that second wild-card this year.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
I hope the Rangers get Chin Lung Hu just so Hu and Yu are on the same team.
fbihop - January 18, 2012
I hope you have to cover a 2-day filibuster in the New Mexico state senate.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
Filibusters in the state Senate are rare.
fbihop - January 18, 2012
Dr. Suess’s body would have to be exhumed.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Not as good as
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
Lee Trevino
having trouble with his short putts
kinbote - January 18, 2012
nolander - January 18, 2012
Yuthenasia
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
I know what I'm listening to next
nolander - January 18, 2012
Yurhythmics?
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Yurope?
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Asia?
kinbote - January 18, 2012
I knew a band once called Youth In Asia
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
hipster
kinbote - January 18, 2012
I enjoyed this series of 7 comments or so.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
I know a little German.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
Troy Verner?
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
Hooters enthusiast Verne Troyer?
Nolij - January 18, 2012
He’s sitting over there!
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Winner!
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
Did not realize
it was against the law for a captain to abandon his ship
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
That’s why Derek Jeter has never left the Yankees.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
Santonio Holmes is going to jail?
fbihop - January 18, 2012
the Captain of the Italian Cruise ship is charged with manslaughter and abandoning his ship
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
I can see that
he is supposed to be in charge of the evacuation, but he bailed and left those people to die while he got to safety.
nolander - January 18, 2012
The dance band on the Titanic will be waiting for him in hell.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Good stuff.
OB12 - January 18, 2012
Yeah, I was making a joke.
He also said that he didn’t abandon the ship, he tripped and fell into a life boat. Seriously.
fbihop - January 18, 2012
sorry, didn’t mean to trample on your joke, just adding clarification : )
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
It is not against the law
though the captain does generally have a responsibility to ensure that all passengers leave the ship safely. One would usually have to be on the ship to make sure that happens.
bhsportsguy - January 18, 2012
the coast guard told him to go back and he refused.
what a punk
delias man - January 18, 2012
Being charged with manslaughter
doesn’t make it against the law to leave the ship.
bhsportsguy - January 18, 2012
it’s one of the charges levied against him
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
It is an Italian law.
VegasBlues - January 18, 2012
sure is
i am from a seaport town. I know these things.
delias man - January 18, 2012
You better go down with that mother!
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
Who wants ot be a captain nowadays
You can’t keelhaul anymore, but you still have to go down with the ship.
mleadman - January 18, 2012
January is National Stalking Awareness month. So, be aware.
fbihop - January 18, 2012
Holy crap, there’s a leopard in those tall grasses. Thanks for the heads-up.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
isn’t it pretty fundamental to stalking that the victim not be aware?
court168627 - January 18, 2012 via Android app
not at all
the fear of knowing that you are being stalked is a great tool for the stalker to have.
delias man - January 18, 2012
You’ve heard?
Nolij - January 18, 2012
That and a high powered camera make a stalker’s toolbag complete.
OB12 - January 18, 2012
A James Stewart accent comes in handy too.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Rob Lowe says that Peyton Manning is retiring.
That’s, uh, strange.fbihop - January 18, 2012
Rob Lowe is the new Buster Olney.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
rob lowe is the new logan morrison
court168627 - January 18, 2012 via Android app
Greatest Rob Lowe movie character?
Wayne’s World?
Austin Powers?
St Elmo’s Fire?
The Wiggles?
Please don’t respond.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
west wing
court168627 - January 18, 2012 via Android app
you said movie. in thay case, wiggles
court168627 - January 18, 2012 via Android app
“Creepy Statutory Rapist” – Home Video
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
hitng?
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Thank You for Smoking
Nolij - January 18, 2012
lmao
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
Parks and Rec? Which I'm sure Xei watches regularly ;)
underdog - January 18, 2012
Literally
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
Youngblood
Pure Azure - January 18, 2012
Easiest question ever
The saturated with sweat, head-band wearing saxophonist from SEF. I swear I could watch that scene a hundred times it’s so awful.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Snow White Oscars number
underdog - January 18, 2012
he is indiana jesus
nolander - January 18, 2012
one manning down, one to go!!!
delias man - January 18, 2012
The second one can't come soon enough
ugh
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
Go Niners, I guess. Bleah.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Go Niners then whoever wins the AFC
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
Right.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Wrong
Patriots are the devil.
underdog - January 18, 2012
I’d still take the Pats over Niners or Giants any day. I’m definitely pulling for the Ravens.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
To the presses!
Sodapop Curtis has spoken!
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
Maybe Ponyboy can give him a retweet.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Maybe Peyton Manning should have taken some of Chris Trager’s vitamins
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
or Traeger
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
i know nothing about football so excuse me if this is stupid, but the colts have to be the luckiest team in the nfl. they get Manning for his whole career, have one shitty season, then get andrew luck. there are probably some teams that haven’t had a good qb in over a decade
court168627 - January 18, 2012 via Android app
There’s a reason their logo is a horseshoe.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
Catching up after lunch is yielding some real gems today.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Redskins, FTL!
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
The Browns are so lucky. They get a ready-made franchise and get to draft Tim Couch.
—People in 1999.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
right
Before EVERYONE got fired Luck made a ton of sense as Peyton’s heir though, sounded like a guy smart enough to run the offense the way Manning does. That probably all goes out the window now though.
nolander - January 18, 2012
my team has not had a great QB in almost 30 years
delias man - January 18, 2012
My team has not had a great QB since Len Dawson.
fbihop - January 18, 2012
nolander’s team has never had one
Nolij - January 18, 2012
haters gonna hate
nolander - January 18, 2012
The Packers haven’t had a bad QB since the early 90s, god I love great QB play :)
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
Aren't you a raiders fan?
If so, Rich Gannon?
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
If you consider Rich Gannon great,then you have very low standards.
fbihop - January 18, 2012
As a Raider he certainly was great
59, 60, 65.8, 67.6 passing percentages in his first and only 4 full years with them, and QB ratings of 86.5, 92.4, 95.5, 97.3.
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
qb rating is a joke
nolander - January 18, 2012
Lord
Anything relevant to the Rich Gannon conversation? Or just pointing out things that I don’t care about?
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
I think in order to be a great QB, you need to do it for more than just four years.
fbihop - January 18, 2012
I’m speaking more toward his time just with the Raiders. He may not be a great QB overall, but with the Raiders he was.
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
thats true
but I think he means franchise QB, and gannon wasn’t long enough for that tag
nolander - January 18, 2012
If that's what he meant then I concede
What about the irrelevant fat QB from LSU I’ve already forgotten his name??
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
I don’t know how Jamarcus’ length compares to Gannon’s, nor do I want to.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
don't be such a baby
nolander - January 18, 2012
that seemed harsh
nolander - January 18, 2012
That seemed harsh
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
hah
lets just move on
nolander - January 18, 2012
lmao
sounds good
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
I know it's essentially an arbitrary number
I think it’s pretty widely accepted that any time in the 90s is pretty good, regardless of what it exactly means.
Even so, going by pass %, yards, tds and int, he was better than good in my mind with the Raiders.
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
whats the ypa
nolander - January 18, 2012
7.3 on average for the first 4 years
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
yeah, If I remember correctly, he threw alot of short passes, so you would think that would inflate his QB rating, etc.
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
Peyton Mannings for his career is 7.6
Montana’s is 7.5
Tom Brady’s is 7.5 as well. So not too far off from these HOF and to be HOFers.
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
Is that yard per completion or per attempt?
David Young - January 18, 2012
My bad that was attempt
I’ll check for completion.
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
YPA is more relevant, I think.
David Young - January 18, 2012
Gannon (his time with the raiders) – 11.5
Montana – 11.9
Brady – 11.8
Peyton – 11.7
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
You’d have to pick out Montana, Brady and Manning’s best four-year stretch to make it an apples to apples comparison.
fbihop - January 18, 2012
I was hoping no one would say that :P
The other 3 i’m comparing him to are clearly elite HOF qbs, I’m saying Gannon was good-great in his time with the Raiders.
But if you want to go ahead and ruin my entire argument with things like facts go ahead and do it! :)
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
I’m a Raider fan and I dont think he was a great QB… good yea, really good, I guess so, but I dont think any NFL gurus would consider him great.
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
When he was healthy he averaged:
26 tds 11 int 3947 yards and a 63.4 pass completion percentage. Definitely not top 5 numbers, but top 10 i’d guess most definitely at the time.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GannRi00.htm
His career comp says Kurt Warner, if that means anything to you.
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
Also going off passer rating, which may not mean much
He’s 24th all-time. So yeah, who knows, lol.
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
he was fun to watch, and they won some games
but he is not a great
delias man - January 18, 2012
Spurs of the NFL
Pure Azure - January 18, 2012
Just waiting with baited breath for Andrew McCarthy to chime in with update on Yu Darvish.
underdog - January 18, 2012
He was always the “nice guy” from that pack.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
He’s still waiting by his phone, anticipating Jonathan Silverman’s call.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Kids today
I remember when a sign of trust was hiding your friend’s pack of cigarettes.
bhsportsguy - January 18, 2012
thanks for that BTW
I would have hated to have missed the Clam Bake
Tommy Blackjack - January 18, 2012 via iPhone app
I’m officially in password overload. I estimate I have 20-30 of them.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Just change all your passwords
to your ATM pin. Easy Peasy
mleadman - January 18, 2012
Gary
I sent you a mail
Tommy Blackjack - January 18, 2012 via iPhone app
It’s a good thing you guys tell each other about sending e-mails. Otherwise I’m sure nobody would ever receive them.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
tommy, nolij replied to your post
court168627 - January 18, 2012 via Android app
This is some joke gimmick they have
it is best to ignore it
bhsportsguy - January 18, 2012
That’s sort of what I was thinking, since it is very funny after all.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
we're a cutting edge comedy duo
The album drops soon
Tommy Blackjack - January 18, 2012 via iPhone app
Comedy teams don’t exist anymore. They ended with the Smothers Brothers, Sonny & Cher, etc.
latenite - January 18, 2012
Flight of the Conchords, Garfunkel & Oates, God’s Pottery…
Nolij - January 18, 2012
The Sklar Brothers
fbihop - January 18, 2012
first people who came to mind
Also, Stella.
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
I should rephrase my comment as “widely known and liked comedy teams don’t exist anymore”. Sorry…
latenite - January 18, 2012
For clarity, “widely known and widely liked”….
latenite - January 18, 2012
Remind me again of your definition of “widely.”
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Cross generational.
latenite - January 18, 2012
I enjoy Flight of the Conchords, as do my parents, and some of the teenagers I teach.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
I think latenite really means someone that he likes.
fbihop - January 18, 2012
Not at all. Not a slam against comedy teams today. They are just not nearly as well known as comedy teams were years ago.
It’s harder to become really well known these days. In 1970, if you got a network television show, you were guaranteed fame (even if for only a short amount of time.)
Out attention is so split segmented these days.
latenite - January 18, 2012
I’m sure the recognition level across the general population for the Flight of the Conchords today nowhere approaches that of famous comedy teams of the past, pre-1990.
Everybody knew who the Smother Brothers were back then. I don’t believe that is even close to being true for any comedy team today.
latenite - January 18, 2012
having more than 3 channels will make that happen
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
Exactly!!! You see my point.
latenite - January 18, 2012
Then you could say that about any comedian, not just duos.
fbihop - January 18, 2012
yes
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
Not really – most everybody out there knows Steve Martin, Robin Williams, Bill Cosby.
Of course – they are all old, and strarted their careers when media wasn’t so fragmented.
latenite - January 18, 2012
Chris Rock was probably the last of the ginormous comedians.
fbihop - January 18, 2012
and even there, HBO special launched his career so really he made his name in the movies, not as a comedian
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
nobody likes George Lopez huh?
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
Not me
Tommy Blackjack - January 18, 2012 via iPhone app
Dave Chapelle?
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
HBO special, Indie Movie, series on Comedy Central. Nope
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
love chapelle.
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
Bill Cosby is roughly as active right now as the Smothers Brothers.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Well, I think I’ll drop this. I’m not explaining myself well at all.
Not a question of current fame, but of the level, breadth and depth of fame these days (generally) as opposed to the past.
I’m old, so I can compare yesterday with today. No value judgments here – just a recognition that the world has changed enormously over the years.
latenite - January 18, 2012
Do you consider Xi Jinping famous?
Nolij - January 18, 2012
In China, probably, In the US – no.
latenite - January 18, 2012
So, fame is relative.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Isn’t everything relative?
fbihop - January 18, 2012
My fat cousins are at least.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
{clink}
kinbote - January 18, 2012
The Eric and Dave Show.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
it’s not a gimmick.
Thanks for the heads up tommy
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
no prob
Tommy Blackjack - January 18, 2012 via iPhone app
Nolij
check your email
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
Sweet, My Coke Rewards is telling me that there are new ways to win in the new year. Thanks for the heads-up!
Nolij - January 18, 2012
No problem
I knew this Coke Rewards info was something you needed to know about asap
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
There is Coke Rewards? shit I diodnt know that….. I drink some form of coke every single day.
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
Yeah, where do you sign up? I can probably live off this rewards thing.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
There’s a code under every cap of a 20-ounce or 2-liter bottle and inside 12-packs. They’ve been pimping it all over their packaging for years. How have you not seen it?
Nolij - January 18, 2012
I miss the contests that you could win without entering in codes
I’m far too lazy to do the contests now.
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
The contests depend on people like you.
fbihop - January 18, 2012
Absolutely
Smartest thing in the world these companies did was putting a code that you have to enter.
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
im lazy too, plus I feel like its a scam to keep giving out my email address so I can keep getting junk email….. so this isnt like Best Buy Rewards? I cant get free 5 bucks worth of coke for every 250 bucks worth of coke I buy?
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
I always thought it was to download some stupid music, or enter this code in to see if you win anything kind stuff.
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
The rewards are roughly equal to the general store at either Dave & Busters or Chuck E. Cheese.
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
You can redeem points for free Cokes, or gift cards to common shopping places. If you drink a lot of it (which I do), you can redeem for $25 or $50 gift cards.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
hell yeah bro, im in…… so what gets the most pts?? I usually drink close to a 2 liter per day.
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
2-liter/20-oz caps are 3 points, 12-packs are 10 points. I think a free 20-oz bottle is 25 points. It’s not bad if you’re drinking it anyway.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Heart attack — priceless.
fbihop - January 18, 2012
If REM was still playing that should be an REM song title
sung to tune of Man on the Moon
underdog - January 18, 2012
sent you a maaaaaaaiiiillll
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
“Everything Hurts” —80 year-old Michael Stipe
kinbote - January 18, 2012
The 49ers will attempt to be the 11th different NFC team in 11 years to represent the NFC
in the Super Bowl.
This got me thinking, of the four sports leagues, NFL, MLB, NBA and NHL, which conference or league has gone the longest without having 10 different franchises represent them in their championship game or series.
The NFC would be the quickest since it has been done for 10 straight years but can you name the league or conference where you have to go back the furthest.
bhsportsguy - January 18, 2012
Wow
This is something I was thinking the other day, but I had no idea it was this bad. The NFC is really lacking in long term great teams. Shoot, the AFC has the Patriots, Steelers, Ravens (though with less success), and had the Colts before this year.
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
Are the Eagles the best NFC team in the last 10 years?
nolander - January 18, 2012
I think you'd have to say yes even without a Super Bowl title
They were in 4 NFC championship games the last decade or so, that’s pretty significant.
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
I would guess the American League.
David Young - January 18, 2012
I would guess the Pac12
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
David Young - January 18, 2012
I refuse to follow such narrow constraints, there have been far more Rose Bowls than Super Bowls.
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
There have been more PCL Championships than Super Bowls.
fbihop - January 18, 2012
wikipedia is down, but I know at least when the Angels and Stars were in the PCL, there was no playoff
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
Off and on championships since 1904.
fbihop - January 18, 2012
and if the PCL and International League were sending their champions to a World Series type deal, they’d be in the conversation, possibly, not really
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
To be fair
the arrangement you are thinking of goes back to 1947 and it wasn’t the championship of anything officially related to the college football.
bhsportsguy - January 18, 2012
For sure, and the Pac-league doesn’t have the equal-ish playing field the NFL has, but it’s amazing Arizona has never made it, Cal goes back 52 years and then it’s 1965 (oregon st.) to get in the other 8
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
When does MLS get to join,
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
When it becomes widely-known and widely-liked. :)
Nolij - January 18, 2012
But Galaxy is winning championships for LA…. I want to include MLS and start saying of the 5 major US sports.
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
NASCAR is more popular than MLS still.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
NASCAR is second in popularity only to the NFL
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
weird…. what about in CA?? still 2nd?
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
You’d have to pay me to search for a state by state breakdown of NASCAR’s numbers
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
The NASCAR races in Fontana (and I think there’s one in NorCal too) always sell out.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Have you seen the Reno 911 when Travis Junior sits with his family for the entire episode watching NASCAR? Classic
kinbote - January 18, 2012
yes
nolander - January 18, 2012
NASCAR grew on me
I think NASCAR races are very well produced for TV. Yes, the cars only turn left, but it’s nonstop action from the multiple position battles to the radio-communication between the drivers and their teams. Something is always going on, and the rapid presentation lends itself well to the speed of the race.
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
The Sparks and Avengers and whatever the XFL team was called all won championships too.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
a championship in an 18 team domestic league in a sold out game is on a different level than the Arena Bowl
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
It was in response to his argument that “I want to include MLS because the local team is good.”
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Did Avengers win a AFL title?? were talking AFL right? if so I dont remember that…. but I do remember the XFL title, LA only city to win one baby!!
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
Oh, maybe they only won a division or conference or whatever.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
I’m willing to let MLS slide, since ten years ago there were only ten teams
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
I will add though
it wasn’t until MLB expansion in 1961 and 1969 that this type of discussion was even possible for baseball.
For the NHL it wasn’t until the 1960s and beyond too.
It took the AFL/NFL merger in 1970 to put this together.
And further expansion and merger in the NBA in the 60s, 70s, and 80s.
bhsportsguy - January 18, 2012
There was an AL and an NL from 1901 – 1960 as well.
David Young - January 18, 2012
both with 10 teams?
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
8
David Young - January 18, 2012
True
and yes, all 16 original franchises did win at least one pennant if not a World Series by the time expansion began.
bhsportsguy - January 18, 2012
The Philolies only had 2.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
The St Louis Browns
only had one appearance.
Quick, where did the Browns go to?
bhsportsguy - January 18, 2012
Baltimore, became the Orioles
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
and that was during WWII (1944 I think) when rosters were somewhat depleted.
David Young - January 18, 2012
You can count their pennants on one arm.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Nice.
David Young - January 18, 2012
Beautiful
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
It is the
Western Conference of the NBA. You have to go back to 1974 when the Milwaukee Bucks represented the Western Conference vs Boston in that season’s NBA Finals.
Most other leagues or conferences finish up by the early 90s, the AFC is the one that was the second longest with Cincinnati being the 10th team of the AFC to be in the Super Bowl back in 1988.
The AL is done by 1991 Minnesota, the NL by 1998 with the Padres, the NBA Eastern Conference by Chicago in 1998. Trust me the NHL was done by the 90s.
bhsportsguy - January 18, 2012
how many Western Conference titles since 1974 were won by the Lakers?
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
A cruise ship load.
David Young - January 18, 2012
Since 1979-1980
the Lakers have been in the NBA Finals 16 times, winning 10 Finals.
bhsportsguy - January 18, 2012
They’ve been in half of the last 32 Finalses. That’s crazy.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Since coming to Los Angeles for the 1960-1961
season, they have been in 25 NBA Finals, first one in 1962. So that is 25 of the last 51 NBA Finals. They have lost more than they have won, since they went 1-8 in those previous 9 NBA Finals.
bhsportsguy - January 18, 2012
Still, you could rename the Western Conference: Lakers and Friends and not be inaccurate.
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
Going back to when the NBA starts counting these things
65 NBA Finals since 1947, the Minneapolis and Los Angeles Lakers have played in 31 of them, winning 16.
They are only NBA team to have played in a finals in each decade of the league’s existence and the only one to not go more than 9 years without an appearance.
bhsportsguy - January 18, 2012
Crazy fun
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Interesting and lengthy investigative piece by Deadspin about the media coverage of Cam Newton at Auburn
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
love that they dont give a shit about redacting email addresses. this is why everyone hates gawkercorp.
hee came hee seop'd he choi'd - January 18, 2012
Deadspin
Deadspin was awesome in the mid 2000s. The content was respectable and the commentariat was on point. Now, I actually read TheBigLead more.
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
Yu says hit THIS, bitch!!!
silverwidow - January 18, 2012
Shiny new toy for SW
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
That batter is the Japanese Aaron Miles
kinbote - January 18, 2012
How would this dude fare in Major League Baseball?
silverwidow - January 18, 2012
He’d have a nice view of the game :)
kinbote - January 18, 2012
From the seats he bought.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
His stance and socks look like Jim Thome
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
Maybe it’s the Hobbit effect, but he looks tiny.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
In 2011, #21 on the Lions was a pitcher. Didn’t find any other years to cross-reference.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
silverwidow - January 18, 2012
That fist pump is pretty cocky…..
silverwidow - January 18, 2012
Bet Nomo is still better
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
Darvish contract
silverwidow - January 18, 2012
6 years for $111m? He better deliver the goods. (I’m a fan btw.)
kinbote - January 18, 2012
A .gif at the end of a 1000 comment thread is like ___________
kinbote - January 18, 2012
puppies and rainbows?
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
a hanging curveball
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
vagina
nolander - January 18, 2012
What the comment record here anyways?
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
2,341.4
nolander - January 18, 2012
Is the .4 a short joke at Humma's expense?
That’s a new low ;)
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
We only count your comments as .6 of a comment. Clearly you commented a multiple of 4 times in that record article.
David Young - January 18, 2012
I was gonna say: of all the short jokes made at my expense, this was the most inscrutable.
Humma Kavula - January 18, 2012
Math nerd alert
8 is a multiple of 4, but .6*8=4.8
Clearly he commented (5X+4) times where X is a whole number.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
i was told there would be no math
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
If you could only see my sad face right now
:(
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
probably over 2000
Playoff thread I’m sure.
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
I should've stipulated
“non-game thread”
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
1,500 or more
Pretty sure I’ve seen that a few times
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
a .gif at the end of a 900 comment thread, only farther down.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
buying a $1000 watch from a guy who works at a taco truck.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
Grantland is going to launch a redesigned website at midnight, Bill Simmons said on Twitter.
fbihop - January 18, 2012 via Android app
If anyone was following the news of the severed head in Hollywood yesterday, they apparently also found a severed hand nearby. No doubt Dr. Brennan is on her way.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
David Lynch has to be behind this.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
lets throw rocks at bottles to find out who the killer is
hee came hee seop'd he choi'd - January 18, 2012
Softball Tournament
Sorry I may have missed updates about the tournament, but do we have an idea of what time it will start and end? And did I make the cut for the TBLA team?
BKnapp - January 18, 2012
No times yet. Deadline for signups is 1/28 so probably nothing until after then. Phil/Dave can let you know if you made the team. Otherwise email LFP (see above comments for address) to see which team you are on.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
We should keep a book
so we can SABR our tournament stats.
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
I can SABR it in advance: SSS.
David Young - January 18, 2012
What does that mean?
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
Small Sample Size.
David Young - January 18, 2012
DUH!
We could SABR it for ourselves. We’re not fangraphs.
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
I can't wait to see my tblaWAR once it's all said and done
I’m totally going to Austin Gallagher it out there, big man hitting singles!
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
I was told there will be
pitch f/x
hit f/x
and UZRs will be calculated in real-time.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
I just emailed him, thank you.
BKnapp - January 18, 2012
I have no idea. Phil has the last list from LFP. But yeah, e-mail that guy to be sure.
David Young - January 18, 2012
Who was your back-up team?
I think DT’s team is also full.
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
My backup team was DT.
BKnapp - January 18, 2012
Welcome aboard then. What position do you play? Wear baseball pants. :)
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
I'm sure I know the answer from Phil
But I told my buddy Cory who I brought to the last softball game about the tournament and he seemed interested, and he is a member on here (though a dirty, dirty angel fan like Nolander), is it cool if he signs up and with TBLA?
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
No, he can play for TBLA, we already have the max, I’ve had to say no to long time TBLA members.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Fucking Not should be in there somewhere
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Yeah it was pretty confusing if not for this post, lol
Alright it’s cool, just wanted to find out
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
Post will be going up in a day or two since everyone keeps asks the same questions that are answered in the old Fanpost.
Phil Gurnee - January 18, 2012
Shit, that thing is long gone and burried
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
After all that, Darvish is only getting like a $3.5mil raise over last year, when he could have pitched for two more years in Japan and come over as a free agent.
Silly.
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
At the risk of his arm frying during those two years.
David Young - January 18, 2012
Can’t wait to see Darvish K Pujols.
silverwidow - January 18, 2012
Is that Luis Pujols’ son?
David Young - January 18, 2012
I love DY's response below
But it’s going to be even better when Pujols takes him deep.
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
Wow...
Darvish didn’t do the math?!?!?
/I’m Asian too!
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
So about a 54% increase?
David Young - January 18, 2012
Yeah
it’s sizable, but if he can get 60(70)/6 negotiating against a team who has no competition for his services and if they can’t come to an agreement gets their money back, and him having with no leverage beyond a negotiating window and the threat of going back to japan (which again, would leave the Rangers with all their money back), I wonder what he could have gotten in two years at age 28(?) with a free market?
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
because he just got 45 million more in guaranteed money
nolander - January 18, 2012
Your CSUDH days...
Did you play with Danny Torres?
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
he went to dominguez the year i transferred to sonoma, but I played against him in high school and we were friendly at dominguez after i transferred back.
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
http://www.gotoros.com/custompages/baseball/2005/season/teamcume.htm
http://www.gotoros.com/custompages/baseball/2006/season/teamcume.htm
those were the two teams i played for.
I’m fully prepared to be mocked for my statistics
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
Your walk rate was good.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
You had a winning record. Screw advanced stats!
Nolij - January 18, 2012
The team won when you led in appearances!
David Young - January 18, 2012
i was abused man, i looked it up at one point that in the first 2 games of a weekend that I pitched my ERA was like 1, and the third and fourth games i pitched my era was like 11.
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
I bet you deny both of those balks.
David Young - January 18, 2012
true story
at Cal Poly Pomona, i was brought in with the bases loaded 2 outs to close the game, and balked in the tying run without throwing a pitch when i turned to try to pick the guy off first.
Got the out, then the win.
VULTURE
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
You know what you're doing
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
One time in little league I enduced a bases loaded double play
on one pitch with one out. That was the only pitch I threw in that game.
nolander - January 18, 2012
effeciency, thy name is Nolander
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
after that pitch the umpire threw you out of the game. To this day he hasn’t been able to explain to his manager how a 25 year old was able to enter the game, warm up and throw an official pitch.
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
Only time I got thrown out of a game
was when I tossed my bat back to the dugout out of disgust with a called 3rd strike. No warning, I didn’t even tomahawk the thing it was a nice clean toss where no one else was.
nolander - January 18, 2012
That is the exact same thing
for my only time being thrown out. My parents were disgusted with me
mleadman - January 18, 2012
My dad was the coach
and actually apologized to me, because the ump had actually warned him and the other coach before the game that he had zero tolerance for stuff like that, but my dad figured our team wouldn’t do anything stupid. He should have known better.
nolander - January 18, 2012
I don’t believe I’ve ever been thrown out.
In fact, I don’t think I’ve ever even been warned, and I’ve thrown at guys intentionally.
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
that reminds me of another story
I don’t think I’ve ever been warned either EVEN THOUGH EVERYONE THOUGHT I INTENTIONALLY HIT A GUY. Turns out that when I wasn’t looking he pulled some babe ruth bullshit and pointed to LF. I then proceeded to plunk him good, but on accident. I had a good laugh about it in the dugout when people tried to talk to me about it.
nolander - January 18, 2012
I never threw at anybody but there were a few I wish I did and many that I accidentally hit that I wish I didn’t. I remember leading off one game (18 year old) and got nailed with a fast ball in the shoulder blades, hurt like hell. The pitcher came over and apologized big time between innings. He knew I was pitching and didn’t want to get hit either. Getting hit sucks!
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
I had a tendency to get hit in the head
but always on the helmet
nolander - January 18, 2012
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
Please tell me the one guy was known as “Funky Cold”.
David Young - January 18, 2012
i’m not sure about whom you are referring
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
Fred Medina
VegasBlues - January 18, 2012
I was like
There’s no way Dave said that without someone being named Medina
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
About 5 years ago I was on a Southwest Airlines flight to Vegas (from Boise) and Tone Loc was sitting behind me. The second I heard his voice I had to find out if it was him.
VegasBlues - January 18, 2012
Oh man, hearing that voice you could only know it was him
That would have been a cool mild thrill
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
“Holy crap, it’s the iguana from Fern Gully!”
Nolij - January 18, 2012
I don't remember that movie, like at all
Ivdown - January 18, 2012
It was Avatar, only less preachy.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
I have never heard of Funky Cold before just now
I wish I had known
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
Sheesh
Kids.
David Young - January 18, 2012
oh once i looked it up I knew the song Tone-Loc, but didnt know that was his name
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
scratch that
Tone-Loc is his name, didn’t know Funky Cold Medina was the name of that song
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
Bird in the hand.
David Young - January 18, 2012
I’m not going to believe the Rangers really signed Yu Darvish til I hear from Emilio Estevez….
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
I believe Chuck Norris would be the relevant expert.
Nolij - January 18, 2012
Not shirtless man?
nolander - January 18, 2012
Westward the Course of Empire Takes Its Way
kinbote - January 18, 2012
think of the guaranteed money
nolander - January 18, 2012
Yeah I know, and I don’t think he gets a CC Sabathia contract on the open market, but maybe he gets 100/6 or 130/7
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
That’s Kershaw money.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
if kershaw were a free agent
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
actually
that’s kershaw extension money.
if he were a free agent, he’d set records for length and girth
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
If he were a porn star he’d be Dirk Diggler
VeroJoe - January 18, 2012
I’m no Eric or Xei but I can guess:
2012: 8m
2013: 14m
2014: 20m
[end of arbitration]
2015: 25m
2016: 25m
2017: 25m
2018: 25m
7y/$142
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Build in a discount for the security offered: There’s your 7y/$130.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Hopefully, there’s more of a discount than that.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
Sounds right……Do it! Do it! (Ben Stiller as Starsky)
VeroJoe - January 18, 2012
Watched The Ides of March last night
would like to thank Humma for whatever role he had in marketing that movie, as it was quite good. Poser fell into a cliche category, however.
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
I'm waiting for
The Ides of Laura March
mleadman - January 18, 2012
It was quite watchable and has it moments, but didn’t the well-connected female volunteer staffer role seem a bit contrived to fit the desired plot?
David Young - January 18, 2012
Haven’t seen the movie… but if the well-connected female volunteer was smoking hot, it’s probably contrived.
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
I find films such as these, where I’m entering a world I don’t know much about on an insider level (Moneyball would be in that category), I’m much more willing to say “I’m rooting for the hero, these other creatures are pawns to achieve a certain effect, except for the villains”
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
Also
because I’m unclear, the primary process is a matter of securing delegates to vote for you in the national convention. I assume each state has different rules for how they divide up the delegate vote, either winner take all or based on your percentage of the vote. fbihop, can you help me out?
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
Also sometimes the primaries don’t actually matter and the delegates just vote for who they feel like. Democracy!
regfairfield - January 18, 2012
Aren’t primaries structured differently for the parties as well?
/a day without Wikipedia has been tougher than anticipated
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
differently how?
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
I think the Democrats have to secure delegates for representation at the convention, except for super-delegates who get to vote for whomever they choose.
I don’t think Republicans have that kind of structure, so primaries are just used to gauge a candidate’s chances of winning the nomination.
It’s been a few years since my last poli-sci class, so I’m probably wrong on the specifics, but I’m sure they’re structured differently.
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
right, and Ides of March was about the Democratic primary, so that makes sense. Also makes sense why Obama-Hilary carried on till just about the end. Whereas the republican primary, if you keep losing states you’re not gonna stay in cause the delegate count is close.
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
I'm not completely sure
I still have my old textbooks at home, so I’ll review and get back to you. I don’t want to lead you astray.
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
Republican primaries are also usually winner-take-all, so Republican candidates know early on if they’re viable for the nomination. Democrats allot delegates based on representation, so a candidate could come in 2nd or 3rd in a primary and still be in the race with more favorable states later on in the primary schedule.
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
that’s it, so I had them both, just didn’t remember it was split by party.
Josie Becker - January 18, 2012
I must be in the minority. I don’t find it affects me at all.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
You’re just smart and keep the knowledge in your head where it belongs. People like me have grown to use the internet as a crutch.
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
I use the internet plenty, just not that site.
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Hit escape as the page loads or just turn off javascript.
regfairfield - January 18, 2012
Repubs did it different this time
The delegates are proportioned according to the percentage of votes the candidate receives in the first 6 states. After that, it will be winner take all. This is suppose to allow the lower end candidates to stay in the race a little longer and give the Super Tuesday States in February more value (the race has already been over in January in the past).
Dodgers1981 - January 18, 2012
Thanks!
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
All I know is that by the time California votes there will only be one person to vote for. Worse than the BCS.
Xeifrank - January 18, 2012
Well
that’s always been true for me :)
mleadman - January 18, 2012
Goldstein tweeted earlier today that he would pick Kershaw over King Felix as a better pitcher in the next 5 years
Goldstein’s last tweet
bhsportsguy - January 18, 2012
someone should have told Felix
baseball is an Oligarchy
G.Scott - January 18, 2012
The last movie I almost watched all the way through
was “Patton” streaming on my iPad.
Even that one I skipped some parts.
I also watched most of “The Longest Day”
(I was in a WWII mood).
bhsportsguy - January 18, 2012
I think
The Longest day lasted longer than the war
mleadman - January 18, 2012
It is not a great movie
but I do like Robert Mitchum’s performance.
bhsportsguy - January 18, 2012
Robert Mitchum = bad ass.
His Cape Fear is from the same year.
David Young - January 18, 2012
Couple of his later movies
Friends of Eddie Coyle and Farewell My Lovely are great Mitchum vehicles
mleadman - January 18, 2012
Cuban Cigars
In December I was able to go to Cuba and there was some discussion about the cigars:
To David Young, I smoked a lot and you are certainly right, they are fabulous.
I was able to bring cigars home, which is technically illegal, but it is not something they fully enforce. I declared both cigars and rum on my customs form and the only thing the agent said to me was, “Welcome Home.” For a few people in our group they made them destroy some or all of their cigars. No one got into any trouble though.
BKnapp - January 18, 2012
I applaud your declaration
I bet it was a little interesting waiting in that line though.
Enjoy them.
bhsportsguy - January 18, 2012
Declaring is definitely
the right move. Well played Mr. BK.
David Young - January 18, 2012
Nice. I have never actually had one, they just have the rep. When I am in Mexico, I wonder if my cruise line can recommend a store where I can be certain the Cuban cigars truly are Cuban, then I will try one. But I am smoking it before I get back to the U.S.
David Young - January 18, 2012
I could have smoked them when I was in London
just didn’t get around to it.
I have seen those shops (they are right by where the cruise ships dock, I don’t know if any of them are reputable. The last cruise I was on had a cigar parlor, if yours has one, check with them. Or you can ask the concierge.
bhsportsguy - January 18, 2012
Yeah they all do. Didn’t occur to me that I could simply by one on board!
David Young - January 18, 2012
Declaring,
Our teachers/advisors that went on our trip wouldn’t technically give us their blessing, but they said they’ve never seen anyone get in trouble while being honest with customs. Unless perhaps you’re smuggling plutonium.
David Young, you have one with your name on it at the softball tourney. Yea there are a lot of counterfeit ones out there, try to find an official seller.
BKnapp - January 18, 2012
Dude, that would be beyond generous.
David Young - January 18, 2012
It’s no problem, thanks for insisting I get my fill of them while there.
BKnapp - January 18, 2012
And yes, if you are honest with customs, I would imagine the worst thing that would happen is that they would simply make you destroy something they weren’t going to allow you to take in. After all, if you declare everything, you can’t be smuggling.
David Young - January 18, 2012
So, I should declare my heroin?
mleadman - January 18, 2012
im calling the cops
uschris0304 - January 18, 2012
Since we're scraping the bottom here
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/magazine/oscar-pistorius.html?_r=1&hp
kinbote - January 18, 2012
Now that dude is a bad ass.
David Young - January 18, 2012
Really? Dalí and Jobs need first names in that list? For what?
David Young - January 18, 2012
David Beckham?
ishXdavid - January 18, 2012
Gordon.
fbihop - January 18, 2012
new post
http://www.truebluela.com/2012/1/18/2717160/dodgers-contract-incentives
Eric Stephen - January 18, 2012
Just pay Clayton
Why is this even a debate? Just pay Kershaw. Damn I cannot wait until the Dodgers have new owners…
boxhead - January 20, 2012
He is going to get paid; on that there is no debate.
Eric Stephen - January 20, 2012
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