Here is the next part of my prospect countdown with another group of borderline players who were not good enough to make the top half of my list. Don't get me wrong there are still some intriguing names in this bunch, but there are also a few guys who have disappointed of late and have dropped quite a bit from previous years. Enjoy.
120. Casio Grider, SS/2B (120 games in LoA in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2009, 14th round
6’1”, 165 lbs, 24.5 years old, bats right handed
.230 average, .670 OPS, 2 HR’s, 25 RBI’s, 31 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: 114; Pre 2010 Rank: 118; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Drafted out of Newberry College in the 14th round, Logan White called Grider a tools guy who is a bit raw and very athletic. He was named as the faster runner in the Dodgers 2009 draft by Baseball America, and runs a 6.5 second 60. Grider spent his first two seasons as pro in the rookie leagues, and while he didn’t do a whole lot at the plate he did show off his speed with a combined 44 stolen bases. That got Casio promoted to the Loons in 2011 where got a chance to regularly at 2nd base. He also played some outfield and shortstop, but his fielding % at shortstop was atrocious so that’s not really an option for him going forward. That being said I've heard he's an exciting player to watch as he will make the occasional spectacular play on defense, but he simply tends to make too many errors. In terms of his offense performance with Great Lakes, Grider had his worst year yet with a .230 average and a paltry .670 OPS, but he continued to show good speed with a team high 31 stolen bases. It’s going to take more than stolen bases to prove that Casio has what it takes to become a true prospect, however, so the 24 year old is going to have to show some offensive spark soon or risk getting released. He will probably get a chance to play for the Quakes in 2012 where he’ll try in improve in the hitter friendly California League.
119. Leonel Beras, LHP (No stats in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers 10/22/07
5’11”, 145 lbs, 20.75 years old
Did not play in 2011
Pre 2011 Rank: 71; Pre 2010 Rank: 96; Pre 2009 Rank: 34
Leonel Beras disappeared in 2011 and I’m not sure why. According to his player page on the milb.com website he has been on the ineligible list for all 2011, but that could mean a variety of things. It’s a shame too because Beras was coming off of an outstanding season in 2010 as he posted a 2.26 ERA over 71.2 innings in the DSL with a minuscule .178 batting average against, so he was all but assured a promotion to a US based league in 2011. In terms of his background, Beras made his professional debut as a 17 year old in the DSL in 2008 and was very impressive. While he only threw 20.2 innings that year, he had a 2.18 ERA as a 17 year old. However in 2009 he was unable to find the plate as he walked 20 batters and was limited to just 14 innings. That led to a 7.07 ERA and a terrible WHIP. Moving ahead to 2010, Beras rebounded nicely in his 3rd season with the DSL Dodgers. He ranked 2nd in the league with 8 wins and also placed among the Dodger minor league leaders in several pitching categories. That brings us up to date given that he didn’t pitch in 2011. I’ve always been alarmed at Beras small stature, but he put up such great stats in 2010 that I couldn’t help but give him a solid ranking last year. I’m still holding out hope that he’ll return to the Dodgers in 2012, and since he’s still just 20 years old he is still ahead of the game if he plays in the Arizona Rookie League next season.
Follow the jump for #'s 118 - 111

118. Lance Zawadzki, SS/2B/3B (91 games in AAA in 2011)
Signed as a minor league free agent in Dec 2011
5’11”, 195 lbs, 26.75 years old, switch hitter
.233 average, .671 OPS, 8 HR’s, 40 RBI’s, 15 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Originally signed by the Padres as their 4th round pick in the 2007 draft, spring training invitee Lance Zawadzki still qualifies for my prospect ranking because he is just 26 years old and has accumulated just 35 at bats in the big leagues. After spending four seasons in the Padres organization and making his professional debut in 2010, Zawadzki was claimed off waivers by the Royals in November of 2010 and played the entire 2011 season in AAA with the Storm Chasers where he hit .233 with 8 homers, stole 15 bases, and posted a .671 OPS. He spent most of the year at shortstop, but also played 21 games at 3rd base and 4 games at 2nd base. That apparently wasn’t good enough for the Royals as Kansas City released him this past October, but the Dodgers though he was worth a shot so they signed him in November. Heading into 2012, Lance doesn’t really have a chance to make the Dodgers big league roster as his OB% over the past two years has been under .300 and he doesn’t offer much speed or power. That being said I’m sure he’ll be a big part of the AAA team in Albuquerque, and given his experience he will probably serve as an emergence insurance policy in case injuries plague Los Angeles.
117. Elian Herrera, OF (116 games in AA in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers 5/14/03
5’11”, 190 lbs, 27 years old, switch hitter
.278 average, .749 OPS, 3 HR’s, 35 RBI’s, 33 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: 123; Pre 2010 Rank: 89; Pre 2009 Rank: 109
Signed way back in 2003, Elian Herrera is one of the longest tenured Dodger minor leaguers. He moved slowly through the system over his 7 minor league seasons, but in 2010 he finally made into the higher levels as he split the year between AA and AAA. Unfortunately, Herrera didn’t really have a very good showing at either level as he combined to hit just .254 with a .693 OPS. In 2011 Herrera returned to AA and that is where he played for the entire season. The switch hitter improved virtually all aspects of his game in his second go-around with the Lookouts and continued to show off his good speed with a team high 33 stolen bases. He also posted a solid strikeout to walk ratio. In the field he continued to be a super utility man, spending a significant amount of time at shortstop, 2nd base, 3rd base, and in the outfield. That being said, Herrera was one of the Lookouts’ oldest players so his success was almost to be expected. As we head to 2012, I’m really not even sure if Herrera will be back in the Dodgers organization because he has enough years to qualify as a minor league free agent and I’ve yet to see that he’s re-signed with the club. He spent this past offseason in the Dominican Winter League and hit .311 over 38 games with a .799 OPS. Here is a clip of him from November. If he does return to the Dodgers, he should get promoted to AAA where he’ll continue to be a valuable utility man.
116. Alexis Aguilar, SS/2B (45 games in Pioneer Rookie Lg in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers 4/8/08
5’11”, 162 lbs, 20.75 years old, bats right handed
.307 average, .789 OPS, 4 HR’s, 34 RBI’s, 14 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: 125; Pre 2010 Rank: 123; Pre 2009 Rank: 135
Alexis Aguilar is a young infielder from Venezuela who signed with the Dodgers in 2008. After hitting just .211 in his debut season, Aguilar showed some improvement in the DSL in 2009. That wasn’t enough to warrant a promotion to a US based league as he started the 2010 season back in the Dominican Summer League, but a hot start earned him a rare mid-season promotion from the DSL to the Arizona League, where he spent the rest of the season. Aguilar continued his climb through the system in 2011 as he spent the season in the Pioneer League. He played all over the infield for the Raptors, but got the majority of his starts and 2nd base and posted an ugly fielding % of about .900. At the plate Alexis had his best season to date, posting career highs in every offensive category. He was especially effective against right handed pitchers, and also had a torrid month of July where he hit .380 over 21 games with an OPS of .999. His one downfall was his walk rate, as he took a base on balls in just 2.6% of his plate appearances. The good news, however, is that he struck out in just 13.8% of plate appearances. Overall Aguilar will need to improve his defense, but he seems to be on track to make it to full season league next season as a 20 year old. I foresee him in a Loons uniform for 2012 which should provide him a true test of his offensive skills.
115. Bladimir Franco, 3B/OF (40 games in Arz Rookie Lg in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers 7/6/07
6’1”, 172 lbs, 21 years old, bats right handed
.211 average, .599 OPS, 3 HR’s, 19 RBI’s, 0 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: 69; Pre 2010 Rank: 36; Pre 2009 Rank: 30
Bladimir Franco was signed by the Dodgers in 2007 when he was just 16 years old, and made his professional debut in the DSL in 2008. While he hit just .169 back in 2008, he lead the team with 5 homers as a 17 year old so that is what put him on the map for me. In 2009 Franco had one of the best seasons for the Dominican Dodgers in recent memory with 9 homers, a .282 average, and an .880 OPS; and did all of that as an 18 year old. That earned Franco a promotion for the Arizona League in 2010, but since then his career has stalled. Over the past two seasons, both spent in Arizona, Franco has hit a combined .217 with an OPS of .600 while striking out in over one third of his plate appearances. One positive is that he improved his 3rd base defense in 2011 and also showed some versatility by playing some right field, but overall the negatives outweigh the positives. Still just 21 years old, Franco will probably spend 2012 with the Ogden Raptors where he’ll try and get something going in the hitter friendly Pioneer League. To do so, however, he’ll definitely need to improve his contact rate.
114. Gregory Pena, OF (61 games in DSL in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers 11/1/09
6’0”, 175 lbs, 20.25 years old, switch hitter
.303 average, .830 OPS, 3 HR’s, 31 RBI’s, 23 SB's
Pre 2011 Rank: 132; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Gregory Pena was apparently born in New York, but must have moved out of the USA at some point because he wasn’t subject to the MLB draft. Instead, he was signed by the Dodgers as an international free agent and made his professional debut in the Dominican Summer League in 2010. During his first season Pena severed as the Dodgers main center fielder, but he didn’t do much at the plate as he hit just .212 for the season. He did show some positive qualities, however, which led me to write last season that “he’ll be one of the players I watch closely in the DSL next year because I believe he’s a candidate to move up to the Arizona League in 2012.” Pena proved me right during his sophomore campaign as he led the Dominican Dodgers in almost every significant offensive category. His 31 RBI’s were tops on the team, and he ranked 1st in average (.303), OB% (.389), SLG (.441), and OPS (.830) among players with at least 75 at bats. He also showed off his speed with 23 stolen bases and 5 triples while demonstrating a good eye at the plate. The switch hitter proved to be a valuable defensive player as well as he played all 3 outfield positions and made just 2 errors all year while recording a team-high 4 outfield assists. I don’t think there’s any question that he’ll make his US debut next season, and with another good season he could really get his name on the Dodger prospect radar.
113. Craig Stem, RHP (12.1 IP in Arz Rookie Lg in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2011, 15th round
6’5”, 215 lbs, 22.25 years old
0-1, 3.65 ERA, 1.70 WHIP, 2.39 FIP, 8.03 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Selected by the Dodgers in the 15th round of the 2011 draft, Craig Stem is a 6'5" righty who had a solid season for the Traveca Nazarene University Trojans after spending two years at Western Kentucky. He was used as a starting pitcher in 2011 and threw 5 complete games, including 1 shutout. His ERA was 3.93 through 73.1 innings, and he struck out 75 while opposing batters hit .222 against him. On draft day Stem said "We had been waiting, hoping to be picked earlier, but weren't really paying attention when the Dodgers called my name because they didn't call ahead of time. We had heard from several other teams today, but each time they picked someone else.” But when he did get selected, Stem said “After a short pause, everyone began to hug and celebrate. It was great to have my family there and is just a special day, one I'll never forget." I don’t know much about Craig’s pitches or his velocity, but he did he does seem to be a hard worker because he was quoted as saying "This wouldn't have happened without coach Burton giving me a chance to put the innings in on the mound. Coach Brown worked with me all fall looking at video and becoming crisp with my mechanics. He has such a gift with teaching pitching mechanics." I’m guessing that Stem had trouble repeating his delivery due to his tall lanky frame, but it sounds like he’s improved significantly over the past year which is what got him drafted in the 15th round. Upon signing Stem joined the Arizona Dodgers and appeared in 11 games out of the bullpen. While he allowed he allowed way too many base runners in his professional debut, he still managed to put together a solid season with a 3.65 ERA and a 2.39 FIP. Given his age an experience Stem could be a fast mover through the system, and with a good spring training he could spend 2012 with the Loons in the Midwest League.
112. Luis Meza, RHP (64.2 IP in Arz Rookie Lg in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers 5/6/09
6’4”, 170 lbs, 21.75 years old
5-3, 4.59 ERA, 1.45 WHIP, 4.16 FIP, 6.96 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: 134; Pre 2010 Rank: 173; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Luis Meza is a young player from Venezuela who debuted with the Dominican Dodgers in 2009. He struggled in his professional debut to the tune of a 6.37 ERA, but he really turned things around in 2010 which earned him a promotion to the Arizona Rookie League in 2011. While Meza’s overall stats with the Arizona Dodgers weren’t all that impressive, he did have a solid US debut and actually led the league in games started and innings pitched. Luis is another guy whose pitching repertoire is a mystery to me, but I expect that he generates some decent velocity based on his great 6’4” frame. Given that he’s still just 21 years old I expect Meza to play with another short season team in 2012, but this time I believe he’ll be with the Ogden Raptors.
111. Jan Vazquez, C (27 games in Pioneer Rookie Lg in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2009, 6th round
5’10”, 165 lbs, 20.75 years old, switch hitter
.253 average, .674 OPS, 1 HR, 10 RBI’s, 1 SB
Pre 2011 Rank: 84; Pre 2010 Rank: 61; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Jan Vasquez is a young switch hitting catcher who was selected by the Dodgers in the 6th round of the 2009 draft. He is from Puerto Rico, and scouting reports prior to the draft suggested that he has a plus arm behind the plate. According to Logan White, “This kid is a real athlete. He shifts, blocks, has perfect size for a catcher. If we don't need him behind the plate, he could play second base because he can really hit from both sides of the plate.” After spending two seasons in the Arizona Rookie League with ugly offensive results, Vasquez was promoted to Ogden in 2011 where he was one of the team’s main catchers. He continued to show solid defense by throwing out almost one third of would be base stealers, but his offensive production continued to be below average as he collected just 6 extra base hits for the season. He also struggled significantly against left handed pitches with a .167 average, so you have to question if he is really even has value as a switch hitter. Overall, I keep waiting for Vazquez to break out as a hitter, but it just hasn’t happened yet. That being said, Vasquez is still just 20 years old after playing 3 minor league seasons so he is definitely young enough to turn around his career. I actually think he’ll get promoted to the Loons in 2012 where he’ll be a part time player, and hopefully he’ll improve his offensive output as he matures.
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Excllent stuff Brandon, thanks
Obvisouly you are a Dodgers prospects expert… do you follow other teams prospects closely as well?
abru3 - January 19, 2012 via mobile
not nearly as much as I do the Dodgers
I enjoy looking at the top 10 or 20 prospects of all the other teams so I know the top minor league talent that is out there and I also get familiar with other minor league teams that play in the same leagues as the Dodger affiliates, but there is no way I’d be able to do a ranking for any team other than the dodgers
Brandon Lennox - January 19, 2012
we certainly have some young catchers at the lower levels. no standouts yet, but who knows. as the Zen master says, “we’ll see”
G.Scott - January 19, 2012 via Android app
This Pena kid looks projectible. I like that.
delias man - January 19, 2012
I thought the same about Stem.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
Anyone else notice the LFP site says it’s collected $4,200 for this softball tournament? Am I reading that wrong?
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
35*120=4200
Nolij - January 19, 2012
That seems like a lot of players, ringers galore
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
that does seem like a ton of players. and it was $4,195 so it may just be how much his site has collected since he opened the donation center
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
When I registered the other day, I believe there were 106 people signed up before me.
Nolij - January 19, 2012
based on comments yesterday about having a hard time getting people from other blogs, I wonder how many of those have paid. It sounds like it may be a 2 team, best of 3 series, but with those numbers if it’s less than 6 teams i’d be surprised.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
The 106 was on the “paid” list, not the “registered” list.
Nolij - January 19, 2012
well, now I don’t know what to think. it’d be interesting to see the breakdown of where those people come from.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
right now the “Donor List” says 105 people. 105 would be 8 teams of 13 people or 7 teams of 15 people.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
Or 105 teams of one person!
Nolij - January 19, 2012
we playing best ball?
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
Are you really not playing?
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
i had planned not to.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
My bad. It says 104, including me. And $4230 collected. So some people must have paid more than $35.
Nolij - January 19, 2012
that could be. I just paid which is why it says 105 and $4,265.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
One guy, Josh, is sponsoring the LFP-Facebook team.
ishXdavid - January 19, 2012
i had no idea this all went to the LA Food Bank.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
I thought it would go towards some kind of cause
That’s nice
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
I don't know if anyone has
But you can donate (this is for some kind of cause, right? Or is the cost just to rent the field and for the pizza and drinks?) more than the 35 minimum.
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
I’m sure it is.
David Young - January 19, 2012
Bladimir Franco
That is all.
kinbote - January 19, 2012
he would be a gift
Hollywood Joe - January 19, 2012
Yu Darvish will be a Fort Worthian….he’ll fit right in right Phil?
VeroJoe - January 19, 2012
A's are shopping Brandon Allen
Should be quite a few suitors
Tommy Blackjack - January 19, 2012 via iPhone app
I’m in.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
same
What the hell right? :)
Tommy Blackjack - January 19, 2012 via iPhone app
Guerra for Allen
They need a closer right? :)
Tommy Blackjack - January 19, 2012 via iPhone app
You are going to trade our successful closer for their failed 1st baseman?
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
I have never presented a serious trade proposal
And that has not changed. I know nothing about nothing.
Tommy Blackjack - January 19, 2012 via iPhone app
yes.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
Came to a conclusion last night
I don’t like the Monetro/Pineda trade for the Mariners. Time will tell, but I’m favoring the Yankees right now. The way I figure it, Pineda has already established himself. He’s a bonafide major league power arm that fits—right now—in the upper half of a rotation. Montero may be something someday, but he’s not there yet. If all this is a bit iffy, the fact that Montero has some positional issues is the deciding factor. Unless the Mariners are convinced he can stay at catcher, I think they overpaid for offense. In terms of uniqueness, it’s a lot easier to find a 1B/DH power bat than a top-of-the-rotation power arm. Early advantage: Yankees.
kinbote - January 19, 2012
My back of the napkin analysis
is that the deal is pretty even. Montero has one more year of team control than Pineda. Pineda is a pitcher, which by definition carries more risks than a hitter does. Pineda doesn’t have great secondary pitches. Montero on the other hand will likely be a DH which hurts his positional value somewhat. Not as much as people think though, because he is a crappy catcher from the scouting reports. I’d say it is pretty even. Will be fun to follow the stats from both players (less so the two throw ins) to see who makes out better.
Xeifrank - January 19, 2012
I disagree. I think Montero is going to be an incredibly special bat who will at some point be a 1B/DH, and Pineda will at some point be the best setup man in the AL Central.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
I haven’t seen enough of either to have my opinion hold any weight. It certainly is one of the more interesting trades I’ve seen in a while. Your analysis could very well come true. it seems like the match-up was one of organizational need: the Yankees can always go out and sign another bat, but adding a power starting pitcher might be harder (witness their failure w/r/t Burnett and Edwin Jackson’s supposed high price tag). For the Mariners, they felt they had to add some offense and dealt from a position of relative strength.
I know the Yankees sweat money, but giving up a single player versus another large contract must’ve been appealing. They must’ve seen Pineda as somehow separate from the group of available starters (Oswalt, Jackson, ?).
kinbote - January 19, 2012
Pineda is a better pitcher now than any of the other options, much less for the next many years.
Nolij - January 19, 2012
seems like you can open a list of all MLB pitchers, randomly point, and be more likely to land on someone who throws 95 more often than not. Now, control and also having a dominant slider is obviously rarer. I just really like Montero’s swing and approach and think he has the type of swing that it won’t matter what park he plays in.
Pineda is very very good, but I’m not a believer in starting pitchers being successful long-term with only two pitches.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
Randy Johnson?
If you count his 2 and 4 seam fastballs as one pitch
Taylor Maricle - January 19, 2012
he was fastball/slider. So you’re basically hoping Pineda can be Randy Johnson.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
Well, he's just in an example of a successful hard-throwing two-pitch SP
Taylor Maricle - January 19, 2012
well remember, RJ was a late bloomer
Tommy Blackjack - January 19, 2012
yeah. i can’t off the top of my head think of any other very successful 2 pitch pitcher.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
Koufax
silverwidow - January 19, 2012
who?
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
I have a question
hasn’t Kershaw been a two pitch pitcher his whole career?
2008-2009
he used either a fastball or a curveball 94% of the time (’08) and 88% of the time in 2009
he then scrapped the curve for a slider
2010
FB/Slider- 91% of the time
2011
90% of the time his pitches were either a FB or a slider
Yankees199 - January 19, 2012
curve hasn't been completely scrapped
but he does favor the slider more. He’s still working on the changeup
Tommy Blackjack - January 19, 2012
ok
since he’s in the NL I don’t know/see anything about Kershaw outside of the highlight reels, but I’m a fan.
Also this comes late, but I hope you guys get the new owner that a team of your history and importance deserves.
Yankees199 - January 20, 2012
No
He never scrapped the curve, he just uses it far less often. But it’s still a plus pitch.
You should have seen his shutout vs Detroit last year — he destroyed them with four pitches, including a change that was deadly that night.
silverwidow - January 19, 2012
man that was sweet
Tommy Blackjack - January 19, 2012
Throwing your third pitch around 10% of the time sounds right to me.
David Young - January 20, 2012
This is true, quite the challenge trade, the slugging prospect versus the hard throwing starter with no 3rd pitch. His peripherals were just as good in the 2nd half so ignore the ERA jump, I think this was a good trade for both teams. The Mariners need a big bat badly, the Yankee’s needed that starter.
They say they don’t have money for a DH but considering the age of the team, they might be better suited simply signing Damon, and rotating in Arod / Jeter / Swisher against LHP.
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
Or Carlos Pena.
kinbote - January 19, 2012
My opinion of this trade is this:
The more the Yankees’ fans are upset about this trade, the better the trade is for the Yankees. And right now, the Yankees’ fans are very, very upset.
Humma Kavula - January 19, 2012
Happy anniversary of the Tuck Rule Game Raiders fans
That was 10 years ago today
Michael White - January 19, 2012
That’s cold
Tommy Blackjack - January 19, 2012 via iPhone app
Fool of a tuck
kinbote - January 19, 2012
he’s not playing this week.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
fuck you
and i mean it
delias man - January 19, 2012
That’s a rec.
fbihop - January 19, 2012
Go 49ers
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
Does everyone remember
exactly where they were and doing when that play happened?
I was watching at the Chumash Indian casino lounge.
Xeifrank - January 19, 2012
I was a freshman in high school I think, so I was probably doing nothing of any significance.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
Dorm room, freshman year of college
Michael White - January 19, 2012
I know what I was doing
I was watching the game
mleadman - January 19, 2012
I was in Palm Springs because my mom was having surgery (gallbladder? I don’t remember).
I blame Mike.
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
Sitting on the floor in my living room in front of the tv
delias man - January 19, 2012
I was somewhere else, and saw it later on Sportscenter. My life would forever be unchanged.
Nolij - January 19, 2012
Lakers vs Heat tonight
Dwayne Wade is out. Which just means someone like the rookie point guard or Chalmers will go for 30+ instead. :)
Xeifrank - January 19, 2012
Lebron is a gametime decision with a stomach flu
Michael White - January 19, 2012
Without knowing the severity, my guess is the gametime decision will be that LeBron will play.
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
I hope he pukes up a lung
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
more likely to puke up a $100 bill.
Xeifrank - January 19, 2012
Mo Mo Mo
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
did i read the recap correctly?
jason terry with a 3 to go up 1 with 6 seconds left, Billups with a 3 to win it?
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
yup
It was quite a sight
Tommy Blackjack - January 19, 2012 via iPhone app
In bounds pass from Billups to Griffin, who slid in behind Blake who hit him with the pass, gave him room to shoot and victory. Billups had made two straight bonehead plays to put us in that position so it was great he nailed the shot. Good effort from some tired legs on his last play after three straight games for the old horse.
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
No, Billups shot was a 2 pt, not a 3 im like 99% sure.
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
It was a 3
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
oh, it was a 3… did it get changed, was it oribginally a 2?
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
It was a 3, then reviewed, and confirmed a 3
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
dam, not sure why I thought it was originally a 2…. this new batch I got must be better then I thought.
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
one of four plays reviewed in the final minute.
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
you are wrong
The replay showed his foot was behind the line. Barely
Tommy Blackjack - January 19, 2012 via iPhone app
yeah, they only needed to win by 1 anyways, so a moot point I guess… but I was wrong.
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
final score was 91-89. they needed the 3 to win
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
No, winning by one point is the same in any sport
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
Except Ping Pong!
TurnItDown - January 19, 2012
and Volleyball
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
i misread, then thought backwards.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
Lots of terrible inbounds play defense. Jason Kidd and Mo Williams involved in both plays defensively. But at least Mo gets cut some slack for his offense and D.Jordan didn’t exactly play the double screen very well either.
Xeifrank - January 19, 2012
amazing how the Clippers just did a back to back to back and still have played three games less then the Lakers
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
and both teams have played twice as many home games as away.
Xeifrank - January 19, 2012
The last time the Clippers had won twice as many as they have lost 12 games into a season was ……….
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
… in a video game?
Xeifrank - January 19, 2012
Tecmo Super NBA basketball sure was a lot of fun
Josie Becker - January 19, 2012
I’d guess ever, unless you count a Bob McAdoo team in Buffalo.
They didn’t start out that fast in 2006 so I don’t think they doubled up the win total.
The 2008 team started 4-0 before losing pretty much every game the rest of the season.
Michael White - January 19, 2012
2005-2006
They started 9-3.
Also started 9-3 in 1975 (Buffalo) and 8-4 in 1976 (Buffalo). That’s it.
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
Thanks
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
The 1975 team was 10-3 and didn’t lose game number 4 until their 19th game.
Both 1976 and 2006 started 9-4, so LA can match that Friday.
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuGCeCoG47Q
court168627 - January 19, 2012
Jan Vazquez falling like a rock
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
yep
loved him as a switching hitting 17 year old catcher who had a bunch of potential…not so much as soon to be 21 year old who has done nothing since turning pro
Brandon Lennox - January 19, 2012
Like one of these?
David Young - January 19, 2012
Looks like the Payroll is set at around 115 Million, 93 for the active team.
I’d like to see at least $110 for the active team.
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
you’re a Cole Hamels away from that happening.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
So, last year Frank was a hairwidth away from not being able to make payroll a couple of months in a row, but now he can throw around money without any worry?
Nolij - January 19, 2012
team will be sold before opening day. i think all he has to do is pay the spring training salaries and per diem, and he’s living off the MLB $150mil loan still for that
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
Bengals Wide Receiver Jerome Simpson flips his way into jail.
So that’s two NFL players in the past month arrested for drug trafficking.fbihop - January 19, 2012
Less than 5 pounds for a professional athlete sounds more like transporting than trafficking. Even a player making NFL league minimum would push more product to make it worth his while. That was probably his personal stash.
ishXdavid - January 19, 2012
5 pounds is a lot.
Probably his stash and stuff for all his friends.
fbihop - January 19, 2012
Yeah, 5 pounds is a lot to us, but he’s got his homies to take care of.
ishXdavid - January 19, 2012
Just saw moneyball the other night
Funny how Beans assistant is Paul Deposwhatever
Dodgerblue8188 - January 19, 2012
DePodesta. You know, that guy who was the best GM we’ve had in the last decade or so.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
Ned would gasp and twirl his mustache if he saw this
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
Small Sample Size
silverwidow - January 19, 2012
Bill Plaschke’s spidey sense just went off
Josie Becker - January 19, 2012
There was a time a Depo conversation would turn into a 3 hour argument, but I’m not sure anyone cares anym ore
Michael White - January 19, 2012
Wasnt DePodesta the guy that let Beltre get away, didnt communicate very well, and last ditch effort to resign Beltre was too late because of it?? or am I mixed up?? Anyways, i didnt like DePodesta, and if he was our best GM in the last decade, the others must have really been bad…. I personally dont want him back as GM, but we’ll see.
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
“let” beltre get away?
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
Right. Beltre didn’t exactly outperform his contract in Seattle.
Nolij - January 19, 2012
He just about lived up to his contract
thanks to his epic defense.
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
Honestly, 3B is one of the only positions I really truly value defense.
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
Thanks
for being so honest. :)
Xeifrank - January 19, 2012
I value it other places
Just not as highly :) But I’m a sucker for a great fielding 3B like Beltre, Rolen, Longoria, etc…
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
it’s probably the 5th most important defensive position on the field, but you can certainly tell the difference as a pitcher with whether or not your 3B blows chunks or is good.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
SS
CF
2B
What else would be in front of 3B here?
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
C
Nolij - January 19, 2012
C
nolander - January 19, 2012
C
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
E
nolander - January 19, 2012
Peniston.
Nolij - January 19, 2012
C
court168627 - January 19, 2012
Let's see how many people we can get to post "C" to this
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
I’ve read that 92.7% of people will not repost “C” as a a comment. Will you??!!
TurnItDown - January 19, 2012
P
fbihop - January 19, 2012
hipster
nolander - January 19, 2012
C
mleadman - January 19, 2012
Rover
kinbote - January 19, 2012
It’s probably (IMO): SS, CF, C, 2B, 3B, RF, LF, 1B, P in order
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
Jim Kaat is sulking quietly in the corner.
Nolij - January 19, 2012
didn’t exactly underperform it either. :)
Xeifrank - January 19, 2012
Depends on how much you value defense. But you can’t let Beltre’s performance in Boston and Texas change the rightness or wrongness of the decision to let him go to Seattle.
Nolij - January 19, 2012
No one is saying his Seattle contract was worth it because of what he did after
Myself and Xei are saying he performed good enough with Seattle during that contract to justify it.
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
I’m saying that chris feels that we let him get away because he was so good in Boston and Texas, but in Seattle he was just barely good enough to justify his dollars. I wasn’t sad to let him go.
Nolij - January 19, 2012
Oh I missed Chris saying that
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
he also orchestrated the Brad Penny trade
Josie Becker - January 19, 2012
which many people disliked because, you know, they loved Paul Lo Duca and Guillermo Mota.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
Dodger fans do love their catchers, and their catchers do seem to end up with other organizations and embracing the other organization instead
Josie Becker - January 19, 2012
I’m glad Lo Duca was dealt. He always seemed like a prick. Piazza and Santana I’m less thrilled about.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
I’m still kinda sad about Rusty, but I’ll get over it
Josie Becker - January 19, 2012
Loduca was a prick…we approached the same doorway in the clubhouse and accidentally bumped shoulders and he told me to watch what the fuck I’m doing and looked ready to throw hands. I was only 17 and he was on steroids.
VeroJoe - January 19, 2012
I am adopting the term “throw hands.”
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
oh bless your heart
Josie Becker - January 19, 2012
Little man syndrome
Michael White - January 19, 2012
giants fans used to give him a lot of shit up there
about his height at games. really funny actually. then the same exact jokes continued for Martin
delias man - January 19, 2012
I remember Lo Duca SCREAMING at Milton Bradley (then with the Indians) after he watched his home run too long. Lo Duca was “mic’d up” on the Fox broadcast. I thought he looked like a clown.
Michael White - January 19, 2012
It’s a syndrome now?
Humma Kavula - January 19, 2012
By the way, if there is a cure for Little Man Syndrome, it is this: marry a tall woman.
Humma Kavula - January 19, 2012
Invade Russia?
kinbote - January 19, 2012
One of the classic blunders.
Humma Kavula - January 19, 2012
What if you invaded by air?
Nolij - January 19, 2012
Humma is currently trying to soften up their economy by drinking so much gin it puts the vodka industry on its collective ass, then he will invade.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
In Soviet Russia, vodka infuses YOU!
Humma Kavula - January 19, 2012
In America, vodka comes with steel-toed boots.
In Soviet Russia, vodka comes in steel-toed boots.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
Wasn’t that in “the Simpsons”? In Soviet Russia the cars drive you…… I heard an ex tell me it in a Simpson character’s voice….Ralphie maybe
VeroJoe - January 19, 2012
In Soviet Russia, Google looks you up
Humma Kavula - January 19, 2012
Ah…..thanks for the clarification Humma *clink
VeroJoe - January 19, 2012
Family Guy
“In Russia, road fork you”
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
To be fair to Lo Duca, if anyone was going to use steroids he made the right call. He was a career minor league catcher going nowhere, might as well make one last attempt to get to the Show.
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
Yep, dude made $30 million.
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
$30 million….risk tearing a hooker in half like a phone book….$30 Million…
Josie Becker - January 19, 2012
after carefully weighing the pros and cons
for 30 seconds, i would take steroids for a chance at 30 million dollars.
court168627 - January 19, 2012
and it’s not like his name is dragged through the mud like Bonds or one of the other major roidies. most people just forgot he existed.
court168627 - January 19, 2012
By far the most disturbing thing (to me at least) in the Mitchell Report is that Paulie was a pusher, extolling the virtues of PEDs and essentially ensuring that all of his ex-Albuquerque teammates did them too. Although, maybe I can overlook it because it helped give us GAME OVER!
Nolij - January 19, 2012
wow.
did not know that.
to be honest, that was an era of the Dodgers that I wasn’t paying too much attention to baseball. i remember being excited about gagne, but I wasn’t into every win and loss like I am today (or when I was much younger)
court168627 - January 19, 2012
Yah, he was looking out for his teammates.
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
Man, there have only been a few times or players as exciting as Gagne
From 2002-2004, the possibility of Gagne coming in and closing the game (that wasn’t a possibility, it was going to happen if he came in) made me want to watch every single game every day, I hated missing games.
The only things that have come close have been Manny in 2008, then every Kershaw start after July.
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
Gagne
One of the things I did LOVE about his 2003 season was that the NL all-star team had Gagne, Billy Wagner (at his peak), and Trevor Hoffman. I remember people saying that the NL pitchers only had to get through the first six innings because the last three were open and shut. Of course, Gagne blew the save in the middle of his streak and home field advantage went to the AL. The Giants were coming off of the NL penant and leading the NL West and I remember being glad thinking it could stop them from winning the series!
court168627 - January 19, 2012
I think my favorite Gagne moment came in his first year as closer, in 2002. The Red Sox came to LA in June, and I had the Sox broadcast on Extra Innings (I lived in San Diego at the time). The Sox announcers were very skeptical of Gagne and had the tone of “let’s see what he does against a real team”.
Gagne came in to get the final out of the 8th on Friday night, and struck out Trot Nixon to preserve a 3-2 lead. He then struck out all three batters in the 9th, Mirabelli, Merloni, and Varitek.
I’m fairly certain it was during Varitek’s at-bat that, with two strikes, Varitek stepped out of the batter’s box and the camera panned to Gagne, who very clearly said “Get back in the box, mother fucker!” and proceeded to strike him out.
It was great.
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
If we had that Gagne in 08, or 09, do we win a WS?
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
we had Broxton
(and maybe Saito at that time?) and it didn’t work. Good closers are fun to watch, but they only impact one inning.
court168627 - January 19, 2012
Gagne doesnt give up a HR to Stairs, Gagne doesnt give up the double to Rollings or whatever it was… I agree with you, but I think the CY Gagne on our 08, 09 team instead of Broxton, we win atleast one WS… but we didnt, so oh well.
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
that gets us to the WS
but doesn’t win it for us
nolander - January 19, 2012
Okay but by 2008 and 2009 Gagne sucked so I don’t understand the comment. We might have won if Sandy Koufax was also on the team. Or Mike Piazza.
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
What if we had Jackie Robinson?!?!
nolander - January 19, 2012
He’d kicked Kent’s ass.
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
HITNG?
David Young - January 19, 2012
Dazzy Vance!
fbihop - January 19, 2012
come on, im just saying I wish Gagne came a few years later, not decades ago.
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
what if we still had beltre?!?!
nolander - January 19, 2012
yeah true. Just playing a what if game… but im sure alot of teams could say that.
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
Gagne was better than Broxton ever was
Even though Broxton was a sick closer for 2 years.
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
hahaha.
That is GREAT.
court168627 - January 19, 2012
nice
My favorite Gagne moment is a composite of moments. When he was at his peak, he had three plus-plus pitches (maybe the curve was plus but because of the other two it played up). I would stand up while he pitched—out of sheer excitement—and try to guess the pitch sequence. I remember one time he struck a batter looking on THREE STRAIGHT CHANGE-UPS. Batter abuse. Call someone.
kinbote - January 19, 2012
My favorite moment was a failure
when he sent up a 100 mph fastball to Bonds, who blasted it out of the park. That was really an enjoyable clash of the titans moment even though the bad guy won.
mleadman - January 19, 2012
who else could catch up to a 100 mph fastball
after a 83 mph change up? Man Bonds was good.
nolander - January 19, 2012
that was crazy
turning on a 100mph fastball
kinbote - January 19, 2012
Just like in the 9th when there are 2 outs
Everyone should stand up for that at bat, I was like you, stood up no matter what when Gagne was in the game. He was so damn exciting.
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
i was at this Tracy Failure
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/BOS/BOS200406110.shtml that has a very good baseball game that Tom Martin blew in the 9th at Boston in 2004. As were were leaving, this super obnoxious guy got in my face with his boston accent and said “where is your gagne at now!!! ahhhhh hhhhaaa waaggg”
My point is that Tracy fucked up what could have been my favorite Gagne moment by not bringing him in.
delias man - January 19, 2012
Damn
I always thought he’d be a good guy. He probably had a bigger chip on his shoulder than Ethier.
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
Holy hell
I don’t remember Loduca being so good his first full season with us.
.320/.374/.543 in 125 games. Ridiculous
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
I was at 6-6. And that catch that made Vinny go “Oh my gosh, he caught it!” is probably the most animated he has ever been on air.
Nolij - January 19, 2012
Is that the catch sliding into the dugout?
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
Yup
Nolij - January 19, 2012
best catch I have ever seen
The Stuntmen - January 19, 2012
LMFAO
YES
NotJoeTorre - January 21, 2012
arent alot of catchers like that though??
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
I can say, without reservation, that of all the thousands of people I’ve played with in my time, catchers are by far the most laid back, chill group of people.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
As usual I agree with Gary. Loduca was definitely juicing. While I was shagging during bp I seen him hit 10 out of 11 pitches out of the park
VeroJoe - January 19, 2012
He was also the ringleader/supplier of steroids during his time with the Dodgers. So says the mitchell report anyway
Michael White - January 19, 2012
and responsible for many a severed head in the Hollywood hills.
Xeifrank - January 19, 2012
the story has already been sold to Lifetime
Josie Becker - January 19, 2012
It was a back story
on The Shield years ago.
mleadman - January 19, 2012
It’s still hard for me to reconcile that the guy from The Commish and the guy from The Shield are the same guy.
Nolij - January 19, 2012
I hear you
but that show was great. Also, Walton Goggles ruled
mleadman - January 19, 2012
He's awesome on Justified
and he was great on the Shield too
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
He’ll always be Downtown to me.
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
He’ll always be the Thing to me
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
Walton Goggles and Michael Chiclets could be a shopping trip to Tijuana.
Nolij - January 19, 2012
too bad i cant see
law and order LA do this body part story in a couple years
delias man - January 19, 2012
can’t believe there’s just one law and order on these days, and even that one is ehhh-ing away
Josie Becker - January 19, 2012
There’s always room for Mariska.
Nolij - January 19, 2012
who would've thought
that such a rich and diverse formula would run out of steam after twelve seasons :)
court168627 - January 19, 2012
you work for the Dodgers? DId you get to champagne shower when the Dodgers clinched playoffs in 04?? Im jealous if so.
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
it just seems like he did
delias man - January 19, 2012
One of my dad’s best friends was a catcher in the Royals system, unfortunately injuries stalled him from ever making the majors, but he is one of the most laid back people I’ve ever known, and loves to joke around more than anyone I know.
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
Hey! He made it for a week. Unfortunately, no Moonlight Graham, Never got in a game, was sent back down to AAA when the Royals signed Gaylord Perry. The blurb in transactions said: “Royals sign Gaylord Perry; Russ Stephans sent to Omaha.”
iiidown - January 19, 2012
Thats what I miss about Russell Martin, he’d be the first one to talk shit and defend his teammates if something popped off.. Thats what I remember anyways, fiesty, tough, enforcer, leader, I like those things in a catcher.
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
me too.
i actually appreciated when aj ellis gave parra some lip last season.
court168627 - January 19, 2012
thats different then being ready to throw hands at a 17 year old who bumped into him
nolander - January 19, 2012
I laughed it off…like you can’t be serious.
VeroJoe - January 19, 2012
Early Martin was my favorite player. Late Martin was my least.
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
i always though
Trading LoDuca and Mota was a mistake but then I realized how much we needed good pitching and if Brad Penny doesn’t get hurt. Who knows..maybe we win 2 games in that 2004 playoff series instead of only Limas great game.
Dodgerblue8188 - January 19, 2012
Worse part was how great Penny was in his first start, and that was about it for 2004.
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
I went to that 1st start too…. didnt he throw like 7 IP, 1 run, maybe no runs? something like that.
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
2-hit shutout through 8 innings, and he got booed for striking out at the plate. Sad
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
Getting Penny was always a great idea, though at the time I was PISSED. 2004 Bobby was an idiot.
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
Yeah. 2004.
:)
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
Set myself up for that one, haha
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
yeah, I thought he was gonna be a star for awhile… 1st Martin bobblehead night, I had 4 tickets, took 3 people with me that promised to give me their Martin bobblehead because I wanted 4… 1 for immediate display, the other 3 to keep in the box safe just incase for further down the road…. didnt turn out well, maybe my selfishness jinxed Russell Martin haha
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
This sounds a bit creepy :)
silverwidow - January 19, 2012
And Tommy Lasorda invited the teenage Darvish back to his hotel room!
Albeit with Darvish’s parents, but STILL.
fbihop - January 19, 2012
How long ago was that? 10 years ago? Just curious
Michael White - January 19, 2012
maybe less
Dude is 25
Tommy Blackjack - January 19, 2012 via iPhone app
9 years
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
2004
silverwidow - January 19, 2012
Depo time
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
Right, sorry
Lasorda saw him in 2004, Angels guy said when he was 16.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
Thanks.
Michael White - January 19, 2012
Great prospect summaries, Brandon.
As usual. Nice to see that the Dodgers might have a couple sleeper hitting prospects this far down on the list.
court168627 - January 19, 2012
I want Stem to respond to me on twitter already dammit
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
We really need a player named Stern
mleadman - January 19, 2012
That name would sell.
Nolij - January 19, 2012
There is no one on this list that is a sleeper prospect. It will be a while before that happens.
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
There are sleepers here, just ones who will never wake up
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
BA’s Coma List doesn’t come out today.
kinbote - January 19, 2012
dirt nap
mleadman - January 19, 2012
with baby jesus
Josie Becker - January 19, 2012
Comedy Bang Bang reference?
fbihop - January 19, 2012
Serenity outtakes reference
Josie Becker - January 19, 2012
That scene is hilarious
I might’ve watched that one outtake more than the movie itself. Best part is watching Jewel Staite try to keep her composure and fail miserably.
EMDarrow - January 19, 2012
cmon.
you get what i mean.
court168627 - January 19, 2012
Not sure I do, while it is great Brandon does this none of these players has any chance of ever earning a career WAR of one. Even when he gets to the top 50, the odds will be extremely high.
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
From Pena:
“I don’t think there’s any question that he’ll make his US debut next season, and with another good season he could really get his name on the Dodger prospect radar.”
This is the kind of extremely tempered optimism I’m talking about.
court168627 - January 19, 2012
Okay, maybe you missed the writeups on how dominate Blady and Enily were in the DSL and how they are still struggling in Arizona several years later.
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
yeah i mean you never know
I didn’t do a ranking after the 2007 season, but Rubby De La Rosa probably would have ranked in the 150ish range after posting a 13.50 ERA in his professional debut as an 18 year old in the Dominican Summer League. With DSL players especially it’s tough to judge how they’ll pan out. So I don’t agree that players in this range have no chance of making an impact in the big leagues
Brandon Lennox - January 19, 2012
Maybe you should have ranked Rubby higher:)
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
Not that he’s a star or anything, but didn’t you have Troncoso really low a few years back?
Nolij - January 19, 2012
i didn't start my rankings until prior to the 2009 season
and by then Troncoso had already used up his rookie status so i never ranked him. but he’s another guy who i’m sure would have ranked low initially when he was coming up through the DSL.
to Phil’s defense, we haven’t had a DSL player make an impact since Adrian Beltre, and the next closest thing we have is Alfredo silverio who probably won’t ever get a WAR of 1 in the big leagues
Brandon Lennox - January 19, 2012
i mean we haven't had a DSL HITTER make an impact since Beltre
Brandon Lennox - January 19, 2012
Aw, now we have to disagree. Alfredo is going to smoke this year, easy peasy he gets a WAR in his career.
Beltre coming out of the DSL would have been in your top 20. I don’t even remember him playing in the DSL, he was 17 and already playing A ball.
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
yeah beltre would have been high on my list
and now that you mention I don’t think he did play in the DSL. so now i don’t know who was the last dodger home grown hitter to come out of the DSL…Baseball Reference doesn’t have great archives for the DSL.
In terms of Silverio i haven’t done my full analysis of him yet so i may change my mind on whether or not he’ll get the WAR of 1…we’ll see. he’s never ranked lower than 40 on my list, although again back in 2003 when he was in the DSL i’m sure he would have been ranked in the bottom half
Brandon Lennox - January 19, 2012
Pedro Guerrero?
Nolij - January 19, 2012
Actually probably at least one of Offerman/Vizcaino/BournigaLOL must have played there
Nolij - January 19, 2012
Came from Cleveland as a 17 year old, already in the States
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
The great / expensive Dominicans do not play in the DSL.
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
Carlos Santana
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
Historically is different then today. Historically we spent money in the Dominican, now we don’t which is why all these guys play in the DSL because they are all projects. Sometimes they hit gold with Rubby but 99% of the time the DSL is simply filler these days.
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
this is very true
Brandon Lennox - January 19, 2012
Fixed.
EMDarrow - January 19, 2012
Craig Stem man, Craig Stem.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
anyone see this?
ESPN ranks the top rotations going into next season
I don’t think the Rangers belong in the top 5 (and I think the Rays definitely should be), and I’m not really convinced the Yankees should be there either. No mention of the Dodgers at all.
court168627 - January 19, 2012
not surprised
Bills struggled last year and losing Kuroda puts us probably on the bottom half of rotations.
Dodgerblue8188 - January 19, 2012
Why would anyone mention a rotation of Kershaw, Billingsley, Lilly, Harang, and Capuano?
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
If Billingsley can bounce back, if Lilly can keep up what he did in the second half of the season last year, if Harang and Capuano exceed expectations…
OK, you’re right.
fbihop - January 19, 2012
man, you really seem to be trying to pick a fight today.
did i ever say that the Dodgers deserved to be on there? i just said they weren’t mentioned.
court168627 - January 19, 2012
today?
Josie Becker - January 19, 2012
and I simply asked why would they?
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
…have you met Phil?
Maddz - January 19, 2012
Have you met Phil doesn’t sound nearly as fun as Have you met Ted.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
Meeting Phil is also not much fun.
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
But my Grandma said bumping into the meercat was orgasmic ;)
VeroJoe - January 19, 2012
apparently I have a new Uncle on the way
VeroJoe - January 19, 2012
Only time it should be mentioned is in Ned’s performance review with the new ownership group, as they ask “How could you make a rotation with a 23 year old cy young winner look so bad”
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
Loving the Rays right now. Shields, Price, Hellboy, Wade Davis, Neimann, Moore. Gack!
kinbote - January 19, 2012
i would guess the total price of that rotation is lower than any other team mentioned except maybe the nats.
court168627 - January 19, 2012
Good call
I looked them up because that is an interesting question…
Rays
Price $4.35m
Shields $7m
Moore ~$500k
Hellickson ~$500k
Niemann $2.975m midpoint
Total: ~$15.325m
Nats
Strasburg $3m
Gio $3.25m
Wang $4m
Zimmermann ~$500k
Lannan $5.35m midpoint
Total: $16.1m
Soooo close
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
Shields screws the pot, they should trade him, then that rotation per $ is rocking
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
Davis and Hellickson are pretty average (to put it nicely) imho. Price, Shields and Moore is very good.
Xeifrank - January 19, 2012
You don't think Hellickson is going to be good?
I think he could end up a nice number 2 pitcher.
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
yeah
I was under the impression Hellickson was the goods.
kinbote - January 19, 2012
shitty
K and BB rates in 189 IP last year. ERA was extremely luck based. Unless he was nursing some kind of injury over 189 innings last year, color me not impressed until he turns things around.
Xeifrank - January 19, 2012
Considering he was a rookie
He just might :)
kinbote - January 19, 2012
Oh definitely, his rookie season wasn’t too great with his peripherals, but those are bound to improve.
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
Yes, his peripherals blew chunks but as others noted, 1st year in the majors. I understand the seeing is believing but I suspect he’ll be a fine number five, possibly the best number five in baseball.
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
Pretty much every rookie starting pitcher (100 IP) exceeded his peripherals sans Tyler Chatwood. I’m not impressed yet with the Rays #4 and #5 if they are Hellickson and Davis.
Xeifrank - January 19, 2012
Hopefully it will be Neiman and they trade Davis.
I’d still rather have Helly then most of those rookie pitchers who had better peripherals in 2011. We shall see.
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
I’d say we could use Davis, but we probably couldn’t and giving up pieces for him (whatever a better package than someone else offers would be) wouldn’t make sense.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
i wish we had that problem.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
(A healthy) Rubby and Eovaldi would be as good or better.
Xeifrank - January 19, 2012
Really, you think Eovaldi given 32 starts in 2012 would be better then Davis or Helly?
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
or as good
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
I think
Rubby(Healthy) + Eovaldi = Hellickson + Davis
Xeifrank - January 19, 2012
That seems reasonable. Putting a lot of expectations on someone who hit the knife after only a few major league innings but I understand why.
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
also reasonable since Wade Davis is essentially their James Loney.
This was cute when you made $400k, but now that you’re starting to make more money it isn’t cute anymore.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
Perfect
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
Damn your standards are high then, lol
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
Pitchers sometimes use their defense
yeah, I know.. no saber stat for it
NotJoeTorre - January 21, 2012
So much for Westbrook coming "home"
He has reportedly agreed to a 5-year max deal with OKC, per Woj at Yahoo.
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
dang
DWill it is then
Tommy Blackjack - January 19, 2012 via iPhone app
I guess the Maverick strategy is DWill and Howard.
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
They can’t afford both, but I expect they will get one.
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
I will enjoy
The Lakers screwing that up for them :)
Tommy Blackjack - January 19, 2012 via iPhone app
I would enjoy D Will coming to the Lakers, Paul signing long term with the Clippers and seeing these point guards really turn this into a great rivalry.
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
The Kamentzky bro, not sure how much they know, but think Lakers might end up using that TPE on OJ Mayo. Memphis seems to really want to get rid of the guy for some reason.
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
That would be great
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
I'll take him
Tommy Blackjack - January 19, 2012 via iPhone app
…so that he can be traded to the Lakers and still get his max money, obviously.
Nolij - January 19, 2012
I think I owe someone a beer
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
Maybe he will be a dump trade in a few years after he blows out his knee
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
Sometimes, even with inside information, people change their minds. Especially for a 5 year max contract. Hard to blame the guy.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
You had info that Russ wasnt signing an extension?
UCLADodger32 - January 19, 2012
just that he wants to be a laker
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
Doesn’t just about everyone who played ball in LA, and I mean that seriously.
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
and went on to play college/pro ball? maybe. Dude grew up in Pasadena (I think) so I could see where I could have just made that assumption and probably been right.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
He loves in OKC and there wasnt really a though of him leaving.
UCLADodger32 - January 19, 2012
/argues with Durant on bench
Michael White - January 19, 2012
please dont tell me you’re serious about this
UCLADodger32 - January 19, 2012
[comment redacted]
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
Sure, I’m serious. I don’t know the man personally but I saw him arguing with Durant on the bench. You could say that’s no big deal, but that certainly doesn’t happen everyday in the NBA. It’s not a huge leap to frame a narrative around him wanting to be the alpha dog somewhere else, particularly a more marketable metro area like Los Angeles versus Oklahoma City.
Michael White - January 19, 2012
Honestly, thats all complete garbage that fit nicely into the media perpetuation of the KD/Russell feud. The whole incident surrounded around Sefolosha and the argument was actually not between KD and Russell. It really was nothing, and not nearly as big as the media portrayed it to be.
UCLADodger32 - January 19, 2012
Does he live in OKC year round?
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
He comes back here in the offseason to train and go back to school, so I guess that would be no. But he does really like okc
UCLADodger32 - January 19, 2012
you don’t know your narrative to be true anymore than what mike is saying
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
you owe me a beer.
Maddz - January 19, 2012
You should totally buy beer on your way home tonight!!!!
Maddz - January 19, 2012
I think I owe someone else a beer
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
I’m craving Newcastle hard core right now… thats going to be my selection for the Laker Miami game.
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
it's mike white
I will accept it on his behalf
Maddz - January 19, 2012
Ha, thanks. But I’ll be happy to enjoy that beer myself.
Michael White - January 19, 2012
:(
Maddz - January 19, 2012
Xzhibit is the worst rapper ever
delias man - January 19, 2012
I see your Xzibit
and raise you a Too Short.
court168627 - January 19, 2012
oh hell no, you cant go bashing all time rap legends like Too Short, been in the game since the late 80s I think, still pippin it… BLOW THE WHISTLE!!
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
But I never was a big Xzibit fan… he had a few cool songs, but wasnt crazy about him…
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
i like a few xzibit songs too, but mostly because Dre produced a bunch of his singles.
court168627 - January 19, 2012
yeah, Dr Dre can make anyone sound good to his beats, the greatest!
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
i don't care how good his rep is
or how old school he is. the dude sounds like what my dad would sound like if he tried to rap.
court168627 - January 19, 2012
haha well your dad should get in the rap game then, and make millions… unless he is already making millions.
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
i had to rec this
Maddz - January 19, 2012
wrong
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
I like a lot of square style rapping, but that guy has absolutely no variation on his rhythm. ever. he really sounds like a parody of rap on children’s show. except, you know, with a bunch of nasty lyrics thrown in there.
court168627 - January 19, 2012
i guess you dont like your rappers to be articulate?
delias man - January 19, 2012
why would you assume that?
court168627 - January 19, 2012
You are correct he isnt a very talented rapper, like an Eminem, etc…. but he is still tight…. He created the word BEATCH that became famous and rap…. and its his philosphy on women that made him so successful, one I happen to study, and agree with…. im kidding….
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
Xzibit still has a place in Hip Hop legend….he’s not a legend by any means but he’d get a 30% HOF vote if he were a baseball player.
Don’t approach me
X
What’s the Difference?
Bitch Please
VeroJoe - January 19, 2012
hahaha.
i really really like that metaphor. Too Short would porbably be in on his 2nd or 3rd ballot. But the sabrmetric people would call it a crock.
court168627 - January 19, 2012
Love those songs… though I prefer Bitch Please 2 to Bitch Please, because Eminem is on that one.
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
that was the one I meant Chris (b2). Too short is the fucking man! He ranks above X to the Z all day though.
VeroJoe - January 19, 2012
Wouldn't Too Short
be Humma’s rapper name?
mleadman - January 19, 2012
no his name would be Sir Gin Alot
VeroJoe - January 19, 2012
Phat Kuzin
Nolij - January 19, 2012
hahahahaha
Maddz - January 19, 2012
I am sometimes called The Inscrutable H.U.M.M.A.
Also: Lil’ Kryptiq.
Humma Kavula - January 19, 2012
also he has that “alchoholic” song….
call it what you wanna call it, I’m a fuckin alcoholic
Bring it if you really want it, ain’t gotta put no extras on it
and him and Eminem have another song called “say my name” but I wasn’t a big fan of it. They did a freestyle diss on a DJ K Slay mixtape ripping Jumaine Dupri back in 02’
VeroJoe - January 19, 2012
i wish someone would blow the whistle on you
delias man - January 19, 2012
Delias you go to Raider games right? Looks like the crowd goes crazy when they play that Blow the Whistle song… looks like fun.
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
they usually play it after the first touchdown they score.
during the TV time out the entire coverage team is on the field dancing and riling up the crowd as they are lined up for the kickoff, the ENTIRE stadium yells BITCH!!!! at the appropriate times, they show sluts dancing on the microscopic jumbotron, they turn al’s flame up to maximum, security guards, lemonade vendors and cops are all dancing it is really something to see. It is Hyfee at its highest level.
delias man - January 19, 2012
Yeah ive seen it on TV a few times either cutting to a commerical, or the ending just as they come back from commercial… love it.
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
watch your mouth
and get hyphy
NotJoeTorre - January 21, 2012
Debbie Harry.
Nolij - January 19, 2012
LOL
delias man - January 19, 2012
One word
Videodrome
jim hitchcock (railway) - January 19, 2012
that movie fucking rules.
cronenberg ftw
court168627 - January 19, 2012
Ronald McDonald
kinbote - January 19, 2012
Like this?
Josie Becker - January 19, 2012
Hulk Hogan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyItyVS68uI
court168627 - January 19, 2012
He’s from Albuquerque!
fbihop - January 19, 2012
But probably better at ride-pimping than Eminem.
Nolij - January 19, 2012
early Xzibit wasn’t that bad.
Maddz - January 19, 2012
/hipstered
fbihop - January 19, 2012
Real life look
at the new Rockies road jersey:
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
unnecessary head spoon
Josie Becker - January 19, 2012
The O patch IS split in half. Lame.
Nolij - January 19, 2012
looks just like every other road rockie jersey
delias man - January 19, 2012
but the piping!
nolander - January 19, 2012
They have had pinstripes before
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
is that a jock strap on the table next to it? Classy.
Xeifrank - January 19, 2012
Things I do not understand, the fascination with uniforms.
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
seconded.
court168627 - January 19, 2012
thirded
kinbote - January 19, 2012
fourthded
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
I wish Humma were here. Perfect set up for him.
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
Fifthed
said Ronny Howard after the Wells Fargo Man assaulted him.
mleadman - January 19, 2012
I was drinking.
Humma Kavula - January 19, 2012
We stare at these guys mostly motionless for three hours at a time they should not look real ugly.
regfairfield - January 19, 2012
I misspoke, I meant to say I’m fascinated by the fascination our editor and many members have for the details of uniforms.
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
we’re all rooting for laundry, might as well be nice looking
Josie Becker - January 19, 2012
as opposed to watches?
Xeifrank - January 19, 2012
my only beef is with the damn vest/tshirt combo
so heinous
hee came hee seop'd he choi'd - January 19, 2012
Our High School Jersey’s were like that….they are more comfortable for BP and pregame
VeroJoe - January 19, 2012
Should banish it all to the weekend, make it Sartorial Sunday.
fbihop - January 19, 2012
Seriously
Whirling Darvish. Perfect nickname.
jim hitchcock (railway) - January 19, 2012
Who wants to marry a 60 millionaire?
Darvish Conger
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
If he had a windup like Hideo Nomo, anyway.
fbihop - January 19, 2012
When he and his dad both come to Dallas: Darvish, Yu Were Here
Nolij - January 19, 2012
Shine on, Thomas Diamond.
kinbote - January 19, 2012
http://news.yahoo.com/original-oscar-winner-wings-soars-again-hollywood-233941189.html
I’d watch this on the big screeen.
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
No chance for me.
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
I want to see The Grey, and Journey 2
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
If TBLA ever became a pay site, members like Humma should be paid to show up and entertain.
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
might have kept up
With the game summary limericks in that case
Tommy Blackjack - January 19, 2012 via iPhone app
Oh man, that would have been a lot more fun than what caused me to disappear for six weeks or whatever it was.
Humma Kavula - January 19, 2012
baby?
Maddz - January 19, 2012
namecalling?
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
Work.
Humma Kavula - January 19, 2012
Baby Smurf
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
Driving under the railroad trestle at Aviation & Rosecrans?
Humma accepts coins in any denomination tossed into his guitar case.
jim hitchcock (railway) - January 19, 2012
Dude, that wasn’t me. I don’t have a guitar case.
I have the case that my $1,000 watch comes in. I collect change in that.
Humma Kavula - January 19, 2012
When I go belly up, I will be stealing all your fancy watches. I don’t understand why this does not happen every minute of every day.
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
Make sure to bring your ice pick.
fbihop - January 19, 2012
One thing about a pay site for sports information
Members (not me) get real annoyed when the writers say something that turns out wrong (like a miss on recruiting or a prediction for a game/season).
Actually, entertainment is the last thing people want, they want inside information and they want it now.
bhsportsguy - January 19, 2012
I totally agree… I dont need good writing, or a story… I just need to know if Dwill is coming to the Lakers or not.
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
everythingwrongwithsportswriting.txt
regfairfield - January 19, 2012
he’s not
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
I used to get snail mail wrestling newsletters. That’s the last time I paid for text.
silverwidow - January 19, 2012
Just for fun
I fired up the old Tecmo Super NBA Basketball. The Clips are shooting 687% from the field.
Josie Becker - January 19, 2012
er
68.7%
Josie Becker - January 19, 2012
i'd prefer to think they're shooting 687%
some shots go in multiple times.
court168627 - January 19, 2012
Outside looking in
Clippers current offensive strategy: you make 0% of shots you don’t take
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
Thanks!
I just wanted to say thanks for posting this series. I’ve been following True Blue for a couple of years now but just joined the site this past week. It is amazing to me the amount of research that must go into putting together a series like this, very impressive and informative. The accuracy of the information and the rankings is incredible as well. From my reckoning, out of last year’s top 20 players listed 7 of them played in the majors with the Dodgers, 1 was traded, 9 are in the top 20 this year (at least through the fan voting, which I know is different), and the remaining 3 are still up there in the top 20-30 as well (Russell, Cash, and Miller – who I suppose could still very well make your top 20 as opposed to the fans’ ranking).
Thanks for all the work!!
douglaskoehne - January 19, 2012
Welcome
Brandon does great work with this and his other minor league reports.
bhsportsguy - January 19, 2012
Brandon will love this when he reads it.
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
Welcome to the site, and thanks for reading.
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
Welcome Douglas….TBLA is a great place to be
VeroJoe - January 19, 2012
Wow, that's really cool
I didn’t realize so many made the majors not in the top 20.
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
thanks for the kind words
and i’m really glad you enjoy this list and research I do!
Brandon Lennox - January 19, 2012
Oliver Perez signed a minor league deal with the Mariners. No word on whether or not he knows that Endy Chavez isn’t there anymore to bail him out.
Nolij - January 19, 2012
reg
Brandon Allen, yay or nay?
Tommy Blackjack - January 19, 2012 via iPhone app
Late but Nay. Hate unatheltic slugs that are still in the minors at 25. This means I would say nay to Ryan Howard but otherwise it’s a safe position to take.
regfairfield - January 19, 2012
and you've made your feelings on Howard clear, lol
Tommy Blackjack - January 19, 2012
For anyone that enjoys parodies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-6XBbqoGRk
A literal video for Rebecca Black’s Friday video. Pretty funny, worth your 4 minutes.
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
there's an interesting article on Dodgers.com
With some quotes from Withrow about his progression. I like his attitude.
Tommy Blackjack - January 19, 2012 via iPhone app
I didn’t post it because I was sure someone already had. It’s amazing how easily I can get enthused about our prospects.
kinbote - January 19, 2012
Or unenthused amirite? :)
Tommy Blackjack - January 19, 2012 via iPhone app
I met Withrow a month after he was drafted…..it’s amazing to watch that video and see how much he’s grown up in just those four years. He’s from Midland, and his Dad is really a down to earth guy
VeroJoe - January 19, 2012
I like big arms and a lot of our guys—flaws and all—have them. It almost seems like a crapshoot sometimes which ones succeed in the bigs. Withrow and Ethan Martin were both billed as having top-shelf arms, more so than Eovaldi, Webster, even Gould. I’ll always believe in the Elberts and Withrows and Martins as long as the Hanrahans and Proctors and Frasors stick around.
kinbote - January 19, 2012
My buddy that I work with decided to switch to verizon fios
and cancel his time warner. So he was calling in to cancel it, and the person picks up and says “oh shit, there’s someone on my line, hold on” and places him on hold.
Gotta love moments like this, lol.
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
ive been considering doing this… what are his reasons?
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
My guess is cost and channel availability.
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
Maybe I shouldnt worry, but my only worry is when these TW channels arrive, will they just be carried on Fios and Drivetv like the Fox Sports channels are now? or will it be on a sports tier you have to pay extra for? Will some providers not carry it right away because TW will demand too much?
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
My guess would be the sports tier, though with something that big they may just put in in the regular package outside of the actual tiers.
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
170 dollar bill for tv and internet 3 hd boxes hbo sho and cin
He got a 150 price with Verizon (we work here so he knows how it all works), and they told him they are dropping his bill to 130 overall and adding starz. I’m calling in soon, dayum, lol.
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
TW is dropping to 130? Yeah ive been wondering if its better for me to call and cancel TW before signing up with anyone else to see what TW will offer to keep me…. But I dont really have the personality for shit like this, im not good at negotiating. Or pretending like I am going to cancel to get a better deal. But might have to just suck it up and do it.
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
A word of advice:
It doesn’t hurt to call in and say something like “my bill is kinda high and I was thinking about switching unless there’s something that can be done about the price”.
They will first try and save you with the “value” of your current package. If you stay persistent saying the bill is too high or something like that you could have them see what’s available as far as new promotions go.
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
cool man, thanks, im going to try it.
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
Whatever I do, I want this whole house DVR forsure…. I find myself wishing I could watch what I have recorded in the living room, in my bedroom often.
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
Man the whole house dvr thing is a mess
It’s 19.99 on top of the regular 8.99 box price, and it’s a minimum 50 dollar install (can’t be waived) on top of the original install fee. Though by now they might have just the 50 dollar one.
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
I’ve been thinking of doing that.
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
I can't believe my friend's story
His TWC bill was 170. Got 150 with Verizon. Called TWC, they got him down to 130 with taxes. Called Verizon, they got him to 110 with taxes. Unbelievable.
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
He should keep going…. make a new reality TV show out of it… Cable provider wars.
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
And the thing that started the McCourt down the path of being a former owner
bhsportsguy - January 19, 2012
He should’ve said, “GFY.”
kinbote - January 19, 2012
What's in a name?
per Enrique Rojas:
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
I always hope
These revelations are done Scooby Doo style
Tommy Blackjack - January 19, 2012 via iPhone app
Where Carmona has a mask pulled off his head?
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
Where the title character’s owner is perpetually stoned?
kinbote - January 19, 2012
Zoinks!
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
If it wasn't for you meddling visa cops, I would've succeeded!
underdog - January 19, 2012
He changed his name because he didn’t want to be a reliever.
Nolij - January 19, 2012
Maybe Ronald Belisario should change his name. Fresh start and all.
kinbote - January 19, 2012
To Tony Montana?
VeroJoe - January 19, 2012
Manuel Noriega
mleadman - January 19, 2012
Humma Kavu —
— I’ve said too much.
Humma Kavula - January 19, 2012
LOL Humma is the commenter formally known as Chotchie Marinotchi J/K
VeroJoe - January 19, 2012
More like Tchotchke.
Nolij - January 19, 2012
Tchotchke Marinotchke? Tchotchke Mazurochke?
berkowit28 - January 19, 2012
why do they do this? Just read Leo Nunez did the same thing… whats the reason?
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
Why do they say that a player has been lying about who he is his entire career when they find out?
Why wouldn’t they?
fbihop - January 19, 2012
they take the identity
Of someone younger than they are
Tommy Blackjack - January 19, 2012 via iPhone app
oh thats right the age thing, got it… thanks
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
Yep, he is apparently 31 instead of 28
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
probably grounds to terminate his contract, if they so chose. In fact, they may be able to get backpay since age is a critical piece of negotiations in sports.
spitballing
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
this shit is gonna get real old real fast
court168627 - January 19, 2012 via Android app
3 years older, in fact
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
yeah
and that was pretty damn fast too
court168627 - January 19, 2012 via Android app
I think you can get called for a technical for this, but it was still pretty funny, by Quentin Richardson.
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
If its not a technical it should be…. funny, but bush league…. is it called bush league in the NBA?
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
i didnt know he was still in the league
delias man - January 19, 2012
I figured he could retire off his Van Wilder money.
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
From that video
I think he might be the mascot
mleadman - January 19, 2012
Actually just a fan.
fbihop - January 19, 2012
Pacquiao spoke with Mayweather on phone yesterday
To discuss the fight…. its coming baby, can you feel it???
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
Pacquiao vs. David Beckham I might watch.
kinbote - January 19, 2012
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/7480500/floyd-mayweather-jr-places-telephone-call-manny-pacquiao
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
I laughed at this
http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-5-stupidest-habits-you-develop-growing-up-poor/
mleadman - January 19, 2012
thanks....
that linked me to this great article http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-absurd-situations-that-only-happen-in-food-commercials/
delias man - January 19, 2012
HA! yeah that activa stuff was hilarious.
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
The light beer commercials are always hilarious.
I mean in a, “No, no one wants to drink Bud Light instead of another kind of beer” kind of way.
fbihop - January 19, 2012
haha yeah…. I love the Taco Bell part too, I thought the exact same thing, who the hell would bring a 12 pack of tacos to a raging party? What the hell is 12 tacos gonna do?
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
Or ANY kind of party.
“Hey, we’re gonna watch football. I’ll bring a dozen crappy tacos!”
No, no you’re not. I’d rather you spend that money on a 12 pack or pitch in for pizza.
fbihop - January 19, 2012
I find the absurdity of the Taco Bell commercials is what makes them funny. Not hilarious, but funny in a stupid way.
Michael White - January 19, 2012
KFC is doing almost the exact same commercial for its dry rub wings.
OB12 - January 19, 2012
Now we won’t see silverwidow for days.
kinbote - January 19, 2012
McDonalds had a similar commercial a few years back with giant picks stuck in Big Macs and calling them appetizers for a party.
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
Its been done in my apartment more then once
nolander - January 19, 2012
the Digiorno thing
Was killing me
Tommy Blackjack - January 19, 2012 via iPhone app
That was a fun read
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
I enjoyed this
because life is hard
Maddz - January 19, 2012
Haha
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
I didn’t get the humor
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
my second favorite work days website :)
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
This got firealled
Reason: “tasteless”
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
I’d be worried about my job security if my company had a Fireall policy.
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
mine has a Firemost
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
FIFA says Brazil and Russia have to allow alcohol sales in stadiums during the World Cup.
Both countries have laws against it because of riots at sporting events. And Qatar, which hosts the World Cup in 2022, doesn’t allow alcohol consumption in the entire country.
fbihop - January 19, 2012
Qatar Qatar everywhere and not a drop to drink
kinbote - January 19, 2012
can’t believe i’m the first one to rec this
Tommy Blackjack - January 19, 2012
crossing Qatar of my list of places to vacation… dont they have resorts n stuff? but you cant drink? wack
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
sounds more like rehab than a resort
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
FIFA
I don’t understand why FIFA didn’t address this issue before giving these countries the World Cups.
BKnapp - January 19, 2012
Because FIFA is corrupt and basically sold the World Cup to the highest bidders?
fbihop - January 19, 2012
And they hate Morgan Freeman.
Nolij - January 19, 2012
Google Oops
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
Google merkin
kinbote - January 19, 2012
I hope the Dodgers do adequate background checks on the DR signees.
This age thing is out of control.
Joey Joe - January 19, 2012
we may sign players before they’re eligible, but when we get in trouble, at least we know they didn’t lie about their age. ☺
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
Well, Beltre did lie about his age, just the other way. And didn’t the Dodgers get in big trouble and have signings invalidated because of some other scandal also?
Nolij - January 19, 2012
I just hope Rubby isnt an alias.
Joey Joe - January 19, 2012
Probably will never happen but I still dont get why players from Japan, DR, etc, dont have to enter an MLB draft.
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
we really need to start putting serialized bar codes on our humans so we can keep track of them
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
retinal scans
Like Minority Report
Tommy Blackjack - January 19, 2012 via iPhone app
Watched Trading Places for the first time in 20 years last night. Still enjoyed the movie, forgot Jamie Lee gave us a show. That is a movie that would have to have some serious changes if it was brought into the 21st century. Just reminded me because of the scene Danny is trying to hock his 7,000 Watch and only got $50. If only he’d had Ebay back in the day
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?rt=nc&LH_ItemCondition=12&nkw=Rolex&fln=1&ssov=1&trksid=p3286.c0.m1539
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
How much for the gun? :)
Tommy Blackjack - January 19, 2012 via iPhone app
Yeah, the salmon scene on the bus, I had to cover my eyes
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
quotes
1. Eggnog.
2. Feeling good, Billy Ray.
3. One dollar.
bhsportsguy - January 19, 2012 via iPhone app
Jim Belushi may have peaked by playing the Gorilla
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
wrong brother survived.
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
What does a Dodger fan know about wrong brothers? ;)
kinbote - January 19, 2012
Oh, go Vlady yourself
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
or at least live long enough to infuse Ghost Busters.
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
wrong kid died
NotJoeTorre - January 21, 2012
The Jamie Lee Curtis part is the only thing I remember.
kinbote - January 19, 2012
Oh, come on. You don’t remember the part about cornering the market on orange juice? Trading Places is the only reason I understand the economy today!
Humma Kavula - January 19, 2012
I still don’t get it.
Tommy Blackjack - January 19, 2012 via iPhone app
Don’t fret, neither do the economists.
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
Corner the market on oranges like the Hunt brothers tried with silver.
jim hitchcock (railway) - January 19, 2012
R.I.P. Sarah Burke
kinbote - January 19, 2012
Sorry Kinbote….I just realized that commenting after yours was insensitive. My condolences :(
VeroJoe - January 19, 2012
Not at all. Just checked ESPN and saw it. Sad story.
kinbote - January 19, 2012
I don’t know who she is but I’ll watch Sportscenter later…..Gary is a da da da douche douche FTMFW
VeroJoe - January 19, 2012
Damn, that is some scary stuff they do, I’m amazed this is not a story everyday. I will always be in awe of those who push the limits in everything. Hopefully she will save several lives with her organs.
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
I got a reply email from Sarah Morris….I told her to check out TBLA. She occasionally writes for dodgers.com
VeroJoe - January 19, 2012
banned
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
Kidding as you know. By the way I was able to toss for the first time today in a long time. We really aired it out, long toss and all. Threw for an hour. Dude I don’t even think I could crack 80 anymore….but my curve is still sick and I can locate it…..change too. Fastball is flat and very crushable ;)
VeroJoe - January 19, 2012
I know Silverwidow is her biggest fan
Michael White - January 19, 2012
I’ll look her up now….dude I feel kind of bad for realz
VeroJoe - January 19, 2012
in all seriousness does anyone know what happened to her?
Brandon Lennox - January 19, 2012
She has
cerebral palsy, in a Bill Plaschke story he did 11 years ago, she said she types 8 words a minute and has a speech disability problem.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=126210&page=1#.Txip3KVSTSg
bhsportsguy - January 19, 2012
Tenacious defined
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
i knew that
but i hadn’t seen her on dodgers.com in what seemed like years so I thought that she had gotten worse or something and stopped writing. maybe i just haven’t been paying attention to dodgers.com and i def I hadn’t checked today so i missed her article today
Brandon Lennox - January 19, 2012
I only recall seeing
a few articles a year from her, usually during the off-season maybe one or two during.
bhsportsguy - January 19, 2012
She’s expanding her horizons now
Nolij - January 19, 2012
MegaUpload / MegaVideo / a few other names were all shut down today. U.S. Government is going after them just like they did the poker sites last year (for different reasons of course).
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/20/technology/indictment-charges-megaupload-site-with-piracy.html?_r=1
VegasBlues - January 19, 2012
damn
Those were pretty good sites.
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
im gonna give you up to the feds
NotJoeTorre - January 21, 2012
OT but oops! PregnancyFail. (Or MathFail.)
http://lockerz.com/s/166170044
underdog - January 19, 2012
Hahahaha
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
“Doctor says I’m 19 months. I’m part whale.”
Nolij - January 19, 2012
I’ll be the killjoy.
fbihop - January 19, 2012
Hah. I kind of wondered. It's good that he did have a leave soooo... it's all worked out after all.
They should take that down from the HuffPo.
underdog - January 19, 2012
good lord
hee came hee seop'd he choi'd - January 19, 2012
Talk about a fall from prospect grace
Jesus.
Ivdown - January 19, 2012
Light tower power, baby.
kinbote - January 19, 2012
More like light switch power.
Humma Kavula - January 19, 2012
Dim and dimmer
kinbote - January 19, 2012
Big time DOS going on at my place
mleadman - January 19, 2012
Yep
see above story re Fed indictments.
bhsportsguy - January 19, 2012
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
Your place too?
mleadman - January 19, 2012
No
not us
bhsportsguy - January 19, 2012
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
Please make sure that my email goes through to the gal who needs to approve my stuff.
Humma Kavula - January 19, 2012
you are number 103
We’ll call you
mleadman - January 19, 2012
What number are you on now?
Humma Kavula - January 19, 2012
2
mleadman - January 19, 2012
I’m screwed
Humma Kavula - January 19, 2012
Actually
since our web sites really don’t do any commerce, this shouldn’t affect day to day business
mleadman - January 19, 2012
I was kidding.
Well, not really. I’m still screwed. But not because of any trouble at the MPAA.
Humma Kavula - January 19, 2012
Evan Silva's
predictions:
Patriots 27, Ravens 23
Giants 20, 49ers 17
I guess we’re in store for a Super Bowl 43 rematch. Mike will like that.
silverwidow - January 19, 2012
And I mean 42 of course…
silverwidow - January 19, 2012
what were his picks last week?
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
He has been
at 50% for the playoffs, hitting 4 out of 8 (just games don’t know about against the spread).
bhsportsguy - January 19, 2012
Ravens
Patriots
Saints
Packers
silverwidow - January 19, 2012
So Patriots vs 49ers it is then…. or NYG vs Ravens…… Someone pointed out to me that NE didnt beat 1 team that ended this season above 500… probably means nothing though.
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
they beat a bunch of .500 teams though
nolander - January 19, 2012
Ravens vs Giants would be a SB 35 rematch.
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
2000 Ravens vs. 2002 Bucs could have been a 3-0 Super Bowl.
silverwidow - January 19, 2012
nah
the defenses would have accounted for some scoring on their own
nolander - January 19, 2012
I am scared
DodgerofTrolleys - January 19, 2012
From Mike Scioscias Tragic Illness today.
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
Yep
DodgerofTrolleys - January 19, 2012
It's a nice post
DodgerofTrolleys - January 19, 2012
Who would give a shit?
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
yeah I wouldnt give a shit…. So he was a shitty owner, big deal…. not exactly enough for me to hold a personal grudge against for the rest of my life. He isnt going to be our owner anymore, and thats all that matters to me… Either way im payin 15 for parking, doesnt matter where it goes after that.
uschris0304 - January 19, 2012
frank mccourt being an annoying owner: worth protesting
all the other horrible shit other companies you give your money to do? Meh.
nolander - January 19, 2012
Apparently a lot of people did.
Pure Azure - January 19, 2012 via Android app
i love frank so much that
I have already paid for my parking for 2012
delias man - January 20, 2012
I guess when the internet only has about a 1/2 dozen solid Dodger blogs it is hard to find one. Luckily Jesse stumbled upon MSTI.
Phil Gurnee - January 19, 2012
Frank McCourt showing the effects of overuse of Quick Tanning lotion.
jim hitchcock (railway) - January 19, 2012
Death by Honkey [for Phil]
kinbote - January 19, 2012
FWIW - Craig Stem responded to me on twitter
said he sits 91-94, tops out at 96 with “heavy stuff” (his words), throws fastball, slider, changeup but his fastball is his best/favorite pitch. 22 in R ball is a year or two old, but he went to college so it’s to be expected. I wouldn’t be surprised if extended spring training and the loons are in his future.
I’ll buy it. It’s SSSS but at least he didn’t jump into pro ball walking guys
http://minorleaguecentral.com/player.php?pid=605492
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
My first impulse to comment was
“How fast does that Stem guy throw?”
Taylor Maricle - January 19, 2012
6’5 215, I had to ask.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
basically, he has young billingsley velocity with my absolute preferred pitch selection
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
Seems like a possible sleeper
such as Webster, just out of a different mold.
Taylor Maricle - January 19, 2012
if nothing else, he seems like a good dude and someone i’ll actively root for
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
what do you mean by pitch selection?
Tommy Blackjack - January 19, 2012
i love fastball-slider-changeup.
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
aaah, ok
Tommy Blackjack - January 19, 2012
fastball-curve-change is my favorite.
Curves are pretty.
Taylor Maricle - January 19, 2012
Lakers/Heat tipping off
Xeifrank - January 19, 2012
Bummer
Jury Duty tomorrow
mleadman - January 19, 2012
I can vouch that you are largely intolerant ;)
kinbote - January 19, 2012
David Ortiz Arb Numbers
He’s asking for $16.5 mil
Team offered $12.65 mil
Last year he made $12.5 mil
Last year he hit .309/.398/.554 with 29 homers
There is no way Boston wins this case, is there?
All numbers are from MLBTR http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/01/ortiz-doesnt-expect-deal-before-arbitration-hearing.html
VegasBlues - January 19, 2012
Probably not
Boston gave him barely over a 1% raise. They will make an argument that their salary is more in line with his position and age but they will hope to settle at less than the mid-point.
bhsportsguy - January 19, 2012
i wonder if anyone
has made a joke about Kobe shooting after the game yet on Twitter. If not, I’ll break out my stopwatch, its coming
Tommy Blackjack - January 19, 2012
Yes
http://twitter.com/MikePradaSBN/statuses/160194004275838976
Eric Stephen - January 19, 2012
is that the first one?
he needs a medal
at least that one was kind of funny though
Tommy Blackjack - January 19, 2012
2nd Grade
homework help needed.
7. To get home, they must pass three sets of __________ before they turn left.
A. mailboxes
B. mailboxs
C. mailbox
D. mailboxss
My daughter marked “A” and the teacher or parent/grader marked the answer as being wrong. Thoughts?
Xeifrank - January 19, 2012
your child is being graded by a moron
Tommy Blackjack - January 19, 2012
Everybody knows they’re called “Letterboxes”!
iiidown - January 19, 2012
seriously... wth
nolander - January 19, 2012
Could be just a fat finger mistake, and I normally wouldn’t mention a mistake like this to the teacher but it is some kind of semi-formal aptitude test where they score if your child is spelling/reading below/at/above grade level. It could make or break what college she gets in to in 10 years. :)
Xeifrank - January 19, 2012
they’re all wrong, the correct answer is mailbi
Josie Becker - January 19, 2012
mailboxen?
BaldBilly - January 19, 2012
UC Berkeley to the rescue.
Xeifrank - January 19, 2012
furthermore, what the fuck is a set of mailboxes? Like three of those banks of mailboxes?
Josie Becker - January 19, 2012
Test obviously written by some hoitey-toitey living in one of those gated communities where the boxes are only on the entry to the cul-de-sac.
David Young - January 19, 2012
fuck gated communities, with their dead ends and dead hookers
Josie Becker - January 19, 2012
run by housing fascists!
David Young - January 19, 2012
oh you can’t buy a house here, the board doesn’t approve of your soul patch
Josie Becker - January 19, 2012
i have relatives who live in them, though it's in AZ where you kinda have too
My God those places are fucking creepy
Tommy Blackjack - January 19, 2012
I want my mailbox near my house dammit
kinbote - January 19, 2012
or a hick from the middle of nowhere middle america
G.Scott - January 19, 2012
hey, come check out my new mailbox set, I finally got one from lower Japan
Josie Becker - January 19, 2012
omigod, so. jealous.
Tommy Blackjack - January 19, 2012
Transfer.
David Young - January 19, 2012
1) mailbox is a noun
2) There are also verbs and adjectives and other stuff too
3) If there are 3 sets of what we will hereafter refer to as “things that hold mail”, how many are in a set?
4) Who are “they”, and why are “they” so concerned with other peoples mail?
5) This doesn’t sound good…get her out of that school!
BaldBilly - January 19, 2012
A
Someone fucked up.
kinbote - January 19, 2012
The correct answer is
E. personbox
David Young - January 19, 2012
…es.
David Young - January 19, 2012
Reminds me of when Thousand Oaks started calling sanitary sewer lines “waste water” lines., so obviously manholes became “personholes”.
iiidown - January 19, 2012
/civilengineerhumor
iiidown - January 19, 2012
Toilets in St. Louis are now referred to as Pujols.
Nolij - January 19, 2012
{standing O}
kinbote - January 19, 2012
I have a sudden urge to go to an Angels game with a couple dozen name-tags and a sharpie.
Taylor Maricle - January 19, 2012
Dolphins should have a head coach in the next couple of days. It’s down to Philbin (OC for GB) or McCoy (OC for Denver). I really don’t care either way, but speculation is that if McCoy is chosen there is a higher likeliness that we’ll trade up to take RGIII. Whatever it takes, just make it happen Captain
VeroJoe - January 20, 2012
from Bill James on Grantland
this gave me a baseball woody
Hollywood Joe - January 20, 2012
SIIIIIIIICK!
VeroJoe - January 20, 2012
Boing! is right.
OB12 - January 20, 2012
Matter of time before Kershaw throws a no-no or perfecto?
kinbote - January 20, 2012
Nope. Can’t be predicted. Seaver never had one, for instance.
David Young - January 20, 2012
talk about blue balls
NotJoeTorre - January 21, 2012
Jersey numbers
per Dodgers:
Newcomers:
Capuano – 37
Harang – 44
Treanor – 18
M. Ellis – 14
Hairston – 6
Kennedy – 3
Number changes:
Rivera – 21
Sands – 23
silverwidow - January 20, 2012
Sands with Gibby's number
Nice
Tommy Blackjack - January 20, 2012 via iPhone app
Karros’ :-)
Nolij - January 20, 2012
Toy Cannon!
David Young - January 20, 2012
Thanks
Eric Stephen - January 20, 2012
Adam Kennedy = Babe Ruth
kinbote - January 20, 2012
Looks like Griff and Matt Wallach are getting invited to major league camp.
Also, conspiracy theorists note, real numbers given to NRIs:
Bard 30
Fields 33
Grabow 35
Ledezma 47
Eric Stephen - January 20, 2012
Sweet
Tommy Blackjack - January 20, 2012 via iPhone app
NPUT
http://www.truebluela.com/2012/1/20/2721015/2011-fab-five-results
Phil Gurnee - January 20, 2012
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