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James Loney, Longest Tenured Dodger

With the departures of Hong-Chih Kuo (the left-hander hasn't signed anywhere else yet, but as of now he is no longer a member of the Dodgers) and Jonathan Broxton, the Dodgers have lost the players who have been with the organization the longest and were with the team the longest, respectively.

Kuo signed with the Dodgers way back on June 19, 1999 as an amateur free agent out of Taiwan, while Broxton made his major league debut on July 29, 2005. The new dean of the Dodgers is James Loney, who was drafted in the first round in 2002, and signed on June 11, nine days before international signee Ramon Troncoso. Loney also has the earliest Dodgers debut among players currently on the 40-man roster, making his major league debut on April 4, 2006. Andre Ethier has been with the major league club the longest continuously, staying put since his major league debut on May 2, 2006.

Here is the list of longest-tenured Dodgers, sorted by the date each player signed with the organization:

Longest Tenured Dodgers
No. Pos Player How Acquired Dodger Since... Dodger Debut
7 1B James Loney Draft 6/11/2002 4/4/2006
38 RHP Ramon Troncoso International FA 6/20/2002 4/1/2008
27 OF Matt Kemp Draft 6/5/2003 5/28/2006
17 C A.J. Ellis Draft 6/8/2003 9/15/2008
58 RHP Chad Billingsley Draft 6/9/2003 6/15/2006
46 3B/1B Russ Mitchell Draft 6/10/2003 9/8/2010
OF Alfredo Silverio International FA 11/13/2003 TBD
57 LHP Scott Elbert Draft 6/16/2004 8/29/2008
54 RHP Javy Guerra Draft 6/16/2004 5/15/2011
74 RHP Kenley Jansen International FA 11/17/2004 7/24/2010
13 IF Ivan DeJesus Draft 6/19/2005 4/1/2011
RHP Josh Wall Draft 7/13/2005 TBD
OF Scott Van Slyke Draft 7/14/2005 TBD
16 OF Andre Ethier Trade 12/13/2005 5/2/2006
22 LHP Clayton Kershaw Draft 6/20/2006 5/25/2008
RHP Chris Withrow Draft 6/15/2007 TBD
41 RHP Rubby De La Rosa International FA 7/2/2007 5/24/2011
9 SS Dee Gordon Draft 6/9/2008 6/6/2011
23 OF Jerry Sands Draft 6/10/2008 4/18/2011
52 RHP Josh Lindblom Draft 6/20/2008 6/1/2011
50 RHP Nathan Eovaldi Draft 7/11/2008 8/6/2011
12 IF Justin Sellers Trade 4/2/2009 8/12/2011
49 OF Trent Oeltjen Minor League FA 7/6/2010 9/8/2010
29 LHP Ted Lilly Trade 7/31/2010 8/3/2010
5 IF Juan Uribe Free Agent 11/30/2010 3/31/2011
36 RHP Blake Hawksworth Trade 11/30/2010 4/1/2011
10 OF Tony Gwynn Jr. Free Agent 12/11/2010 3/31/2008
55 RHP Matt Guerrier Free Agent 12/16/2010 4/1/2011
LHP Michael Antonini Trade 12/27/2010 TBD
66 RHP Mike MacDougal Minor League FA 1/28/2011 4/2/2011
21 OF Juan Rivera Trade 7/12/2011 7/15/2011
31 C Tim Federowicz Trade 7/31/2011 9/11/2011
OF Alex Castellanos Trade 7/31/2011 TBD
RHP Stephen Fife Trade 7/31/2011 TBD
18 C Matt Treanor Free Agent 11/15/2011 TBD
14 2B Mark Ellis Free Agent 11/15/2011 TBD
3 IF Adam Kennedy Free Agent 12/1/2011 TBD
37 LHP Chris Capuano Free Agent 12/2/2011 TBD
6 IF/OF Jerry Hairston Jr. Free Agent 12/5/2011 TBD
44 RHP Aaron Harang Free Agent 12/8/2011 TBD

Thanks to Baseball-Reference.com for a few of the dates in the table above.

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Comments

So today is the official beginning of the end for Frank, right? I wonder if we at least get a confirmation of the number of bidders at some point over the next couple of days.

That would be cool

Is it Fielder time yet for the Dodgers?

Buyers are gonna want big names on the club if they are gonna pay over 1 billion. Kemp, Kershaw, Fielder sounds pretty big to me.
BTW…if McCourt keeps the parking lot I ain’t parking in it!

Me neither. There is too much parking outside the stadium for me to pay $15 to not have to walk half a mile.

Question:

Would adding Fielder have a bigger impact on today’s club then adding Manny to the 08’ club?

Baseball-wise, or money/PR-wise?

Baseball-wise, I don’t think any aquisition will ever have as much impact as Manny had.

PR wise, that’d be a nice boost.

Just because this was so incredible:

Manny put up an OPS+ of 221 in LA after being aquired in 2008.

Seemed like he never stopped hitting

Even in the playoffs

among the most amazing periods of sustained excellence I have ever seen

I couldn’t BELIEVE how high DeAndre Jordan got up yesterday. Incredible. I’m trying to figure out why the media likes Blake so much more than Jordan, since DeAndre seems to be similarly exciting. Maybe it’s because while they both whine, DeAndre is more obvious about it.

Oh, and good thing Evans didn’t break Mo’s hand. Sheesh.

A bit of hype when they started too. Funny, this article regarding longest tenured Dodgers got me thinking about longest tenured Clippers. Now that Kaman (and Gordon) are gone, Jordan is the longest tenured Clipper. He was a second round pick who was TERRIBLE his first two years in the league who improved to passable then onto sneaky productive. Deandre is playing great right now and he had a monster game yesterday in limited minutes (due to the blowout.)

Baseball-wise, upgrading from James Loney to Prince Fielder is similar to Pierre/Manny, except this time we get a whole season worth.

PR wise, I’m not sure anyone will be as big of a hit as quickly as Manny Ramirez was in LA, but it’d still presumably be a boost. Not so much because OH MY GOD IT’S PRINCE FIELDER, but rather “Hey, maybe the team is ready to compete again, I’ll come back to the stadium now”

Plus, it’d be an interesting Prince Fielder/Prince Albert LA Duel for the next 8 years.

LOL….here’s hoping it happens

PR wise I’d say Prince since Season Ticket holders are about to make their decision this week and I’d think a Prince signing would easily change the equation to yes if they are on the bubble. Also single ticket sales will be going up soon, and that would be a boon for that.

Was the town crazy excited before Manny showed up and decided he was going to give his all for the Dodgers? Obviously the town went crazy after Manny went crazy but if you told me the town was as Manny crazy on the day the deal was announced as they would be if we swept in at the last minute and picked up Prince I’m not sure I could agree.

I think that’s one reason Fielder won’t sign soon. If it looks fairly certain who the Dodgers buyer might be in a few weeks, they might tell McCourt to go ahead and try to sign him. I think this has Boras’ hope all along.

Billy Joel- “You maybe right, I maybe crazy, but it just may be a lunatic you’re looking for”

I don’t think the Dodgers are players at all for Fielder. The Nationals and Rangers (at least) are legitimately involved. Besides, the longest tenured Dodger has that position filled.

Any speculation why Fielder hasn’t signed yet? My guess is the Boras hope for the Dodgers getting into play. You would think by now the Nationals and Rangers would have made offers.

They might have made offers that Boras simply finds unattractive for a Client who he told him was going to get the moon.

True, so I think Boras’ attitude would be, why sign now? Let’s see what happens with the Dodgers.

my guess is he doesn’t want to play in texas or in the hood

To much Dodger / Prince chatter to completely ignore. It is not just coming from wild eyed posters anymore.

Yep, conventional wisdom says the Dodgers are not in it. However, it can’t be completely dismissed since Prince is still available at this very late date. In fact there is a good bit of logic that says the Dodgers may in fact be in on him.

I’d like to hear this good bit of logic

Evidently, the logic would be:

a) We’re a large market monster with changing ownership, a possible influx of new money, and a 1B power void.

b) Fielder is still unsigned

Yup. Where there’s smoke there’s at least some fire.

Man, if Dodgers get Fielder I will be so pumped for the season… It will turn the 15 game package my dad gave me for xmas from a so-so gift, to the greatest xmas present EVER!!

Instead it’s coming from the always reliable anonymous sources.

Ned leaking it to the media that they’re interested so he stays on the market until he can convince Frank it’s in his best interest.

When did he leak that to the media?

oh, nevermind, read wrong… so he is leaking it to the media while on record saying he doesnt see any way the Dodger can do it, or that payroll is full.

there we go. i knew the wild eyed poster would show his faced

Right now I’d say the odds are

Reporters making stuff up so they don’t have to meet a deadline with Kevin Millwood signing with the Mariners 1:20

Boras drones trying to create a false market 2:1

Ned Colletti: 1000:1

So you’re saying we have a chance?

There's

No chance the Dodgers sign Prince Fielder.

Weatherman never says there’s a 100% chance of rain.

that should tell you exactly how unlikely it is that the dodgers sign Prince

I have seen

Predictions on The Weather Channel saying 100% rain

I think that’s only if it’s already raining.

So, feel free to say 0% chance after Prince signs with Washington.

yeah my weather channel app said 100% rain today… and its raining.

The National Weather Service does.

I’m sorry I will think harder about my analogies in the future.

What amazes me – they’ve forecasted “100% chance of rain”, been wrong, and yet they still do it. Why not “99% chance of rain”? To better satisfy the anal of the world.

Rounding error

You don’t need a bankruptcy attorney to know which way the wind blows.

the shit is always downwind of wherever you’re standing.

Picturing Humma holding a large white card with these words on it.

x

oh….Tim Robbins…

I have not seen that movie since it came out 20 (!!!) years ago, but I really loved it back then.

Is that Bob Roberts?

Yup.

Great movie – Tim Robbins greatly underappreciated actor

My fave line was “…and don’t do crack. It’s a ghetto drug.”

Mine too. I quoted it the other day. It was not appreciated out of context.

I know what you guys are doing…. doin that reverse psychology…The more you say it wont happen, the more likely it will happen….

But at the award thing over the weekend, why would so many baseball executives, or atleast more then 1, think Dodgers end up with Fielder, or making a play for Fielder, or whatever…. wouldnt they know more then us? Wouldnt they know Dodgers have no money and its impossible? So why would they say it then, or think it?

“Baseball executives” is a group of people to which Ned Colletti and and Dayton Moore and Ed Wade belong. They are not unanimously intelligent folks.

Thats harsh… Id think they are intelligent people, maybe they arent smart baseball people, but I’d like to think they are still intelligent overall. But maybe not.

they’re more likely to be smart baseball people but not smart businessmen

Why would some random White Sox staffer know about the inner workings of the Dodgers?

camelback connection

Color me intrigued.

If this was next year's offseason

I wonder if LA would have been the preferred destination for Prince seeing as the Dodgers would have lots of money to spend.

If the queen had balls . . .

she'd be one freaky queen

….she’d be in West Hollywood

I cannot believe this one didn’t draw iron

anyone who got a bid book was asked if signing Prince was okay with them.

i wish you weren’t kidding

im not?

where did you see this? that’s awesome

fish on

I’m confused again

HA!

dude has done some fly fishing in the keys

am I correct?

A dude inside the Dodgers front office.

Did he attend Bucknell, perchance?

MLB Radio was discussing that Boras is likely to speak with whatever serious bidders emerge to ask if he should include them in the conversation. Sort of like, “Should I wait for you or just sign with the Rangers already?”

Boras and Borat

you make the call

I like. High Five?

“There is a smell. Smells like shit!”

It is

McCourt needs to okay it already

With Kemp signing it is just a matter of time before he takes this mantle. HOF player who plays his whole productive career with one team. Suck it Jeter.

Suck it Piazza?

P.S. FUCK CHASE CAREY

I was gonna say, Kemp will probably be the longest tenured Dodgers starting next year.

looking at this chart, im happy aj ellis is getting a chance this season

Don’t identify your poultry units numerically until such time as they materialize from their shells.

in that case, im hoping aj ellis is finally getting a chance this season

So will you be the guy who is screaming for Russell Mitchell to get recalled this year?

The list

Of potential new owners that Shaikin wrote about in today’s LA Times doesn’t impress me. Right now, I think I would vote for the Kasten, Magic or Gilbert group, if on,y because I think they would be filled with a number of small partners with capital and less likely to be burdened with debt.

Go Magic

Yep

I’m definitely rooting for Kasten.

Word

I would

Not even say I am really rooting for them. I do think those two have the best shot at being approved by MLB.

me too, but i have a bad feeling we’re going to see corporate ownership

Do you think Selig would do what he can to prevent that?

The only corporations

That would even make sense are Fox and Time Warner Cable and even for them, I think they would rather just deal with the RV rights.

It will be a group, one or two of them will be tied into investments or real estate but right now, I don’t see corporate ownership as an option.

“Hi everybody and welcome to Doritos Field in lovely downtown Los Angeles . . .”

kinbote feeling spry this morning

The red wine is wearing off.

Essentially blind, my preference would be 1) Gilbert and 2) Kasten. The Caruso group intrigues me, but I’d need to learn more. Everyone else just looks like a bag of cash, even if there’s a smiley face associated with it.

No O’Malley and no Claire. everyone else I could live with. As if I had a say in this.

I was thinking the same thing. Those guys need to stay away. Macciello sounds like a joke too.

yeah i was not even considering him

I’d think he’d be your guy, you seem like a maverick type.

is that what you think of me?

that guy is a loser. i need a rich stable guy. like any gold digger would.

That guy literally (Li..tra-lee) has gold to dig though.

I watch Gold Rush

much harder than you think!!

Bride approves of your use of literally. Misuse of that word is her pet peeve and she is always pleased when someone passes.

We can see next month. I appreciate him giving me the opportunity to say “He’s sitting on a gold mine” like an old toothless prospector, at least.

I missed the NFL referee overtime rule explanation yesterday. Did they appear to get Josie’s memo?

i was thinking this weekend with your love for numbers

have you ever dug into the workings of the college hoops RPI?

I’m looking forward to the new Week 12 poll to come out. Wondering if any Pac-12 team can even sniff the top 25. I think Cal got two points on one of the Jan. 16 polls.

as a big west fan

i never even look at the polls.

Always interested in that stuff but @kenpomeroy does a great job with it.

Joe Pos made it into a poem

too lazy to link

That was very funny.

It's long, but a snippet
With the score tied
at the end of regulation
we will go into overtime

There are special
overtime
rules
in the playoffs

Both teams get an opportunity
to possess the football
with one exception

With this longest-tenured Dodger business, I remember wistfully the days when Bill Russell was often referred to as the “Dean of the Dodgers.” I think Topps even listed him as such one year.

Why would anyone even wistfully wish for the days of Bill Russell as the longest tenured Dodger. Bill Russel is the James Loney of his day.

thats pretty harsh. on loney.

He was also the boringest manager ever. I could fall asleep listening to one of his interview answers.

Because he’s better than Repko. Also, because I like having longest-tenured Dodgers that are actually long-tenured.

Then harken for Willie Dayis:)

Jon has a nice list of his fave movies of 2011. Y'all should chime in there with your own

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/dodger-thoughts/post/_/id/19104/my-favorite-films-of-2011

Glad someone else loved Beginners as much as I did.

I saw five movies that came out in 2011. I think 50/50 was my favorite.

I think Joseph Gordon Levitt is a great actor!

Every year, my favorite movie that came out that year is “Why You Gotta Be Fuckin With Denzel”

“Man on Fire” is one of my guilty pleasure movies.

Co-sign.

Love Inside Man too.

look up denzel on IMDB. There isn’t a single movie he’s done that isn’t “Why You Gotta Be Fuckin With Denzel”.

Even when he’s the guardian angel in Preacher’s Wife, you know someone fucked with denzel to make him an angel.

Is somebody really fucking with Denzel in Training Day?

I liked Denzel best in

“Trapped in a Closet”

King Kong doesn’t have anything on Denzel

uh

yeah?

I mean he kind of instigates it

but by the end yes. Well actually the Russians are fucking with him from the beginning.

Loved Dr. Dre’s cameo in that flick…rocking the corn rows

Kind of?

That movie is more like, “why you gotta be fucking with Ethan Hawke”

Poor Hawke, just wanted a new job to make detective.

Hawke’s scene in the bathtub was EXCELLENT acting!

shouldn’t have done that angel dust

luckily for him he didn’t end up in Debo’s pidgeon coupe because of Hector!

That’s like saying the cops are fucking with the bank robbers. He’s the bad guy.

he is the bad guy

but a lot of the stuff that goes down in the film is because Denzel is getting fucked with by the Russians(although he fucked with them first by shooting the guys brother)

Love that one

American Gangster was good too

“My Man.”

I love that flick…..he played Frank Lucas to a T

the new one looks like exactly that

I liked half of it.

is the rumor true that Orlando Johnson

is filing a 5th year hardship case to play again next year?

Nice win on Saturday; I missed it

kinda a fluke though

nothing could go wrong for LB, and UCSB is not that bad. I don’t think.

Yeah, I will be sure to stop by. :)

Son

of a bitca

he should be a Met.

Was with the Mets longer, even if his best years were with the Dodgers.

If Bagwell

Is getting the slow run to the HOF, why wouldn’t Piazza get the same treatment?

He probably will, because a lot of sportswriters are stupid.

BUT he might not because he was the best hitting catcher in all of baseball his entire career.

in the non-Pudge division.

Being an offensive catcher is less commonplace than a offensive 1B……that and Piazza was a DODGER!

hell yeah he was! Dodgers! Dodgers!

The only fans who think of Piazza as a Dodger are Dodger fans.

Do any other fans even matter?

I choose to think of him as a Marlin. F that guy.

sis boom bah?

rah rah rah

kick him in the knee, kick him in the other knee, kick him in the…

weeeeee need a home run, and we’re gonna get one.

Love it Josie!

Positional value?

You’re right, but Piazza’s case (“best hitting catcher of all time”) can be summed up in way less words than Bagwells (“arguably the greatest inactive NL first baseman once you adjust for park”) so it should be easier.

Then again at least one person has already said Piazza doesn’t feel like a first ballot kinda guy so he’s probably doomed between that and having muscles.

Wasn’t the Astrodome pitcher friendly?

I just chuckled, remembering they used to play baseball in what was essentially my grandparent’s Brady Bunch backyard with a tin can thrown over it

there were old 90’s video games i remember it was very hard to hit bombs there.

Sports Talk Baseball FTMFW

The Blue Jays were SICK on that game

Very.

yeah found this spreadsheet

with it usually between 93 and 97, a couple 92s and 99s thrown in.

Glenn Davis’s 30 homer seasons in that park are all the more impressive.

In the New Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract, James rates Bagwell as the #4 first baseman of all time, behind only Gehrig, Foxx, and McGwire.

The commentary on Bagwell in that rating reads as follows:

“Pass.”

It seems that nobody gives a fuck about Jeff Bagwell, which is too bad, because he was great.

Maybe, it wasn’t like he was unproductive as a Met.

He should never have been a Met

Neither should Piazza

That’s who I meant

Yours says dude, yours says sweet.

What’s mine say?

He was with them longer

Had better seasons here. I understand the Met thing, they didn’t trade him away when he wanted more money.

his plaque

can have him wearing a mets hat and that fucking heinous white turtleneck he was wearing this weekend

26 Los Angeles Dodgers played for 10 years or More - Name them

Meaning at least one game per year

Don Drysdale

12 years number 10 on the list

let rephrase
12 years, tied for 4th with 8 other players

Dammit

12 years, tied for 5th with 8 other players

Karros

12 years number 10 on the list

let rephrase
12 years, tied for 4th with 8 other players

12 years, tied for 5th with 8 other players

Cey

12 years, tied for 4th with 8 other players

12 years, tied for 5th with 8 other players

what’s that you say?

Pedro Guerrero

11 years, tied for 6th with 5 other players

3-Dog

14 years, tied for 3rd with 3 other players

koufax

Mike Scioscia

yeager

fernando

11 years, tied for 6th with 5 other players

I have an irrational love of Steve Yeager

White Rod Barajas?

Fedex will remind you why

oh, I agree

I think I am going to LOVE HIM

His uncle’s a pilot?

no

but he will pose for playgirl

14 years, tied for 3rd with 3 other players

13 years tied for fourth with four other players

Mike played 13 years?

sutton

16 years, number two on the list

Does Maury Wills count, or does it have to be 10 uninterrupted years?

Total years, in a row does not matter for this question

Bennie the Jet Rodriguez?

He’s stealing home. I can’t believe it!

Then I will say Maury Wills.

12 years, tied for 5th with 8 other players

Russell, Valenzuela, Gilliam?

Russel Number One – 18 Years
Fernando answered above
Gilliam nine years

Garvey!

14 years, tied for 3rd with 3 other players

Manny Mota, Daven Hansen?

Mota – 13 years tied for fourth with four other players
Hansen – 11 years, tied for 6th with 5 other players

roseboro

lopes

10 years, tied for 7th with four other players

10 years, tied for 7th with four other players

wasn’t ron fairly around for a long time?

Is this a guess?

fairly certain it’s a guess

12 years, tied for 5th with 8 other players

How many are we still missing?

Willie Crawford?

12 years, tied for 5th with 8 other players

Garvey

Cey, Lopes, Russell, Sutton, Orel, Fernando (actually not so sure about this one), Drysdale, Koufax (probably not because some of the years were in Brooklyn)….

Not sure who else

every single one of your guesses was picked already

I feel like this was said very condescending for some reason, lol

How long was Sax a Dodger?

Shake it off….Gary is on a roll today….he even called Koufax a p@#

you’ve contributed nothing, and may God have mercy on your soul.

;) a sphincter says what?

You act like that's a new trend with me :)
19717 comments and nothing to say!

“Tell Lady GaGa she can quit her job at the post office because she’s still a male lady” — Bad meets evil

Hershiser

13 years tied for fourth with four other players

Missing the list with 9 years

Claude Osteen
Wes Parker

Koufax and Gilliam also had the 9-year itch!

Boy, this “exactly 9 years” team is shaping up nicely.

koufax was the prick who pitched 3 years in brooklyn just so he wouldn’t be an answer to this trivia question decades later

blasphemy!!!! I don’t even know who you are anymore Gary!

add mike marshall to the 9 year team

Perry!

The Platypus?

No the Relief Pitcher who went 16-3 ….then was the pitching coach for 30 years

Only counting games played of 1 or > . No coaches

I’m still showing five left:

one was one of Jon’s picks

Bob Welch?

Yes, shockingly 10 years

Thought of him earlier and discarded the thought. Well harumph.

the other was one my fav’s that Jon would not add to his list
one was screwy
one was Cy Young but not for us
one made one of the greatest throws in Dodger World Series history and also hit one of the most exciting regular season home runs and was part of one of the greatest trades in LA Dodger History

Joe Ferguson

Yes, 11 years

hit the homer of my life*

*as far as games I attended

Oct 3rd, 1980?

yes

top deck, with my older brother

My favorite series EVER

Two left:
Screwy should be all you need to know
NightOwl might help for some of you

The same name Ramon Martinez and Mike Marshal did play a little havoc with my quick and dirty spreadsheet.

The flip side of the Meercat’s list are guys who had long, storied careers, but only one season as a Dodger. The “THAT guy was a Dodger?!” list.

The Boog Powells of the world.

Mike Piazza

funny

but still just cause for a GFY

I think Richie Allen had the greatest one and done season as a LA Dodger

Just wait until the Dodgers trade Mark Ellis after his top 10 MVP season.

My favorite example, of course, given all that went down, is Juan Marichal.

Al Oliver would like to be added

Boy, I had no idea Al Oliver was a Dodger.

You never forget a number 0. Well, at least I don’t. Or else Orlando Woolridge might as well be Terry Teagle.

Bill Mueller

The High Life!

The “I won a batting title with lowest qualifying BA EVER”

David Wells

Maddux

kenny lofton

Lofton owned, never gonna forget him.

Angel Berroa, 2008 Dodger starting shortstop.

Not Maddux. They brought him back. Two seasons in blue.

Maddux was a two timer

right, still when they read his plaque in 20 years, it’ll say Cubs, Braves, Dodgers, Padres. and people will just kind of go “oh yeah, i forgot he was a Dodger”

But a proud member of the “That guy retired as a member of WHAT team?!” list.

Jeromy Burnitz

always hated the spelling of his name with a passion!

Julio Lugo

(holds head in hands, cries)

What’s sadder is he recently signed a minor league deal with the Indians and I actually thought, “We could use a guy like that.”

Didn’t we get about 12 guys like that this offseason?

nice humma….but too soon….the wounds are still too fresh

Somehow in Ned’s quest for depth he forgot shortstop. The position where we have a guy that might on base .270

Depth chart

Gordon
Hairston (only played 9 innings in 2011)
Sellers
Luis Cruz I guess.

Ah, you know Hairston can do the gig.

And Uribe in a pinch

We had Jamey Carroll playing SS

True.

I had a nice blissful moment where I forgot Juan Uribe existed thank you for ruining that.

Everybody had the same concerns about Jamey Carroll, and then we fell in love.

Jamey had us at :Hello:

No, he didn’t. We were skeptical at “Hello.” He had us at the 23rd time he said, “No, really, I can play, it’ll be all right.”

Jamey: IGT
Us: O RLY?
Jamey: YA RLY
Us: LOL?

Carroll was awesome but he was a real shitty shortstop.

like every 3rd hollywood Romcom

Who can forget Brian Bohannon or would that be the list of players who for the Dodgers one year and that year was the best of their career?

I loved big Brian.

Rickey Henderson

Damn, this could be one hell of a team, just got Cesear Cedeno to agree to play CF

TBLA softball?

Someday Dana Eveland is going to be on this list:)

miguel tejada

I admit I haven’t been paying close attention, so tell me, did I miss something?

just a bad joke

More 1st baseman it seems
Dick Stuart

Marty’s favorite – Dan Fullpack Stanhouse

Gary Carter about to RIP

Jim Senator Bunning

THE Frank Robinson

Jim Dodger Killer Eisenreich

Brad Hawpe seems destined to be a Dodger outfielder

Signed with the Rangers yesterday.

There’s always next year

Jody I will hate you forever Reed

That’s Dodger Coach Jody I Will Hate You Forever Reed.

Yeah, fuck that, I would fire Ned simply for that transgression.

Day One of new ownership:
Owner – I want to know who was responsible for hiring Cody Reed?
Ned points his finger at a pitiful fool
Owner – hands baseball to Pedro Martinez
Owner – you know what to do
Pedro – fires fastball off the forehead of pitiful fool thus ending his Dodger Relationship
Owner – new rules, we don’t hire people who fucked us by being fucking jerks

Wouldn't that be Jody Reed
I violated Humma's Law
Thome

Soon we will have a nickname for you

I humbly suggest

“Memento”

Busy with work so I post late

guy

:)

Moose Skowron

Most Frustrating MLB Players

Loney made the top 5

I’m not going to look:
Rickey Nolasco?
BJ Upton

it’s mostly guys with the same major flaw at the plate

surely, matt kemp would have been on this list if he had another 2010

I guess “frustration” is too nice a word for what White Sox fans felt when Adam Dunn or Alex Rios or Juan Pierre or Gordon Beckham or Brett Morel came too the plate.

First half of the last season was Ted Lilly for me.

I wanna play…..

um Homer Bailey?

Years	Name	Placement
18	Bill Russell Count	1
16	Don Sutton Count	2
14	Steve Garvey Count	3
14	Steve Yeager Count	3
14	Willie Davis Count	3
13	Manny Mota Count	4
13	Mike Scioscia Count	4
13	Orel Hershiser Count	4
12	Don Drysdale Count	5
12	Eric Karros Count	5
12	Jim Brewer Count	5
12	Maury Wills Count	5
12	Ron Cey Count	5
12	Ron Fairly Count	5
12	Willie Crawford Count	5
11	Ramon Martinez Count	6
11	Charlie Hough Count	6
11	Dave Hansen Count	6
11	Fernando Valenzuela Count	6
11	Joe Ferguson Count	6
11	Pedro Guerrero Count	6
10	Bob Welch Count	7
10	Burt Hooton Count	7
10	Davey Lopes Count	7
10	John Roseboro Count	7

missed brewer, hough, hooten only?

Brewer

his watch is for sale

Will it fit on Humma’s wrist?

VIntage watches fit my wrist, generally speaking. Men used to wear their watches smaller.

By the way, I bought my watch this weekend. Pic if you friend me on facebook.

With that purchase, thus endeth Watch Thoughts.

1. Men used to be smaller. At current size you would have been a GIANT in ______A.D.

2. Congrats – looking forward to seeing it on your wrist one of these days

3. SAY IT AIN’T SO!!!!

to go far enough back in time so Humma could be considered tall, he’d then be considered an outsider for being the only one walking on his hind legs.

Gary is in Meercat form today

You make one insult and it follows you around forever like that dingleberry you can’t get rid of.

when have you ever done one of anything?

You assume, Gary, that I have enough muscle mass in my legs to stand upright.

dam Male enhancement pills.

I love Happy

happy happy, joy joy

happy happy, joy joy

The price is wrong Bob!

I bet

Mammoth is happy about finally getting some snow. Local news said above 5,000 feet should be great for skiing this week

80 Degrees by Thursday, I’m enjoying these swings in temp.

I'm going to have a terrible sinus infection soon aren't I

Yes I say as I sneeze so hard I crack a rib

I had the flu over the weekend, was delirious Friday.

we know

Did I mention that?

No, just based it on the posting

Josie Becker is delirious

was that like a funny version of Soap Dish?

Surprised no one asked what “typing without a ribbon” means.

I still have a manual typewriter

is that what you girls call a sleepover reunion?

oh yeah, the worst is when the e and r get jammed and you get correction fluid on your blouse

I drove to Mountain High yesterday, saw the slush, then promptly drove back home.

Wonder if perspective owners talking to Boras

Wonder if any of the perspective owners groups have said if selected they would like Fielder? Realize it is doubtful but wonder, it also serves Boras purpose of getting more for his client.

IMO

Dodgers are most likely the worst team in baseball. They should immediately clean house and get some real players. Lucky if they win 40 games this year!!!

Well, Kid K wins 20 by himself…

I’m guessing the season ends on July 1st in this scenario

Can't wait till he strikes out 20 batters in a game

You’re funny, Joe.

This is clearly a joke that I don’t get.

Clearly a preeemptive strike at my Dodgers are more basement material then attic material coming up.

Hooray for the Padres.

I think Joe’s account got hacked

You’re right Michael….I would never post anything like that. He thought it was hilarious

Sorry but we still have to ban you for allowing your account to get hacked.

It doesn’t count…he’s a bloody Red Sox fan

Thanks for Michael assuming it wasn’t me

You are probably the most optimistic person here. I, for one, appreciate it.

OMG sorry guys!!!! My business partner played a joke on me by posting that

I was starting to lose hope once you said that :P

So funny I forgot to laugh.

Absolutely obsessed with this game “Little Empire” on Android.

It is basically like Farmville only you get to fight other people.

build more farms

It's amazing how many strikeouts Mark Reynolds has in the last 4 years

834 according to the disappointing players list that Silverwidow posted earlier. Wow.

5th in baseball in HR though!

And look at that .897 fielding percentage in 2011!
he needs to just be a DH already

not sure why they keep putting him on the field

Cause they also had Vlad, Luke Scott, and Chris Davis.

Luckily in 2012 they can have Davis, Josh Bell, and Reynolds as they try to be the first team with three players with 150 or more K’s.

/havenoideaifthisistrue

I think the 2009 Diamondbacks shattered that number.

Nope, 223, 137, 133

2010 D’Backs, 2001 Brewers are the only ones that did it.

Darn

Off by a year.

2001 Brewers also had Geoff Jenkins who struck out 120 times in 400 at bats.

Burnitz too

John JaHa

What a shock that Jaha ended up with the A’s

Jaha was either on the A’s or out of baseball by then.

He was one of the 150 strikeout guys.

The Milwaukee Roiders could hit it a long way when they connected

However 2010

211
172
152
148
145

To be fair though, Mark Reynolds led the charge for them.

If it weren’t for one of the recent Diamondbacks teams it probably would be.

If they let Josh Bell play he’ll break the record.

to be fair, American League hitters hit the ball harder than National League hitters ☺

At 3B. He may be passable at 1B.

C’mon! That’s nearly 9 out of 10 tries he gets it.

it is really pourung outside right now
I had that in Newbury Park an hour ago

Haven’t seen it coming down this hard in a while

as much as half an inch of rain in some places. Half. an. inch.

Cool

MLBNetwork is doing

Baseball IQ which premieres Jan 24th:

The rivalry between the New York Mets and the Philadelphia Phillies is on display in the premiere episode of MLB Network’s first-ever game show, Baseball IQ, tomorrow, Tuesday, January 24 at 9:00 p.m. ET, immediately followed by a matchup between the Baltimore Orioles and Tampa Bay Rays participants at 9:30 p.m. ET. Hosted by Matt Vasgersian, MLB Network’s Baseball IQ is a recall-based trivia show featuring two participants, 30 minutes and a chance to win up to $45,000 for charity. Questions cover all things baseball, from current players and managers to World Series champions, MVPs, Cy Young Award winners,
MLB Network surveyed all 30 Clubs, MLB.com and the National Baseball Hall of Fame & Museum for the best and brightest trivia minds in their organizations to represent them, and thirty-two participants will be matched up in a bracket-style tournament across 31 episodes. Two new episodes will air every Tuesday through Thursday at 9:00 p.m. ET from January 24 through February 23, leading up to the start of Spring Training.
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Baseball IQ features participants including front office personnel, equipment managers, scoreboard operators and museum curators. Future first round episodes will include participants matched up in a bracket opposite their clubs’ rivals, pitting the St. Louis Cardinals against the Chicago Cubs, the Boston Red Sox against the New York Yankees, the Los Angeles Dodgers against the San Francisco Giants, and the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim against the Texas Rangers. The winning player of each episode will win $5,000 for the organization’s charity they represent. The championship episode will award $25,000 for the winner’s organization’s charity and $15,000 to the runner-up’s organization’s charity.

Sample Questions:

Test Your “Baseball IQ”: * Name the four pitchers to start an All Star Game for both leagues. * Name the last 10 Opening Day starting second basemen for the Atlanta Braves. * Name the 12 players to hit at least 40 home runs in a season in the 1980’s. Hall of Famers, milestones and more.

the sample questions are not IQ but baseball fact memory

Baseball IQ is:

Who covers third on a bunt down the 3rd base line with two on and nobody out?

Where should the 2B be playing, with runners on the corner, with one out, in a tie game? Where should SS, 3B, and 1B be playing?

I hated playing 2B when we practiced the different bunt defenses….I’d be so winded by the end I’d always be on the verge of throwing up.

IQ does not measure pure intellect under any circumstances. Taking an IQ test requires a certain understanding of “widely-accepted” (callback) social norms, so “intelligence” requires “knowledge.”

of course

my questions refer to those norms – you have to have knowledge of what a 3rd baseman is and that positions responsibilities before you can answer

my snarky point, is that baseball IQ should be about how to play the game, rather than purely obscure facts about those that did play

True. But “Knowing Stuff about Baseball” isn’t very catchy.

Maybe Joe could use some marketing help?

2 on means 1/3 or 1/2 or 2/3? what’s the score? what inning? who is pitching? where are they at in their order? are we home or visitors?

Someone nominate Eric.

Not a single vote for a Pac-12 team

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings

MWC FTW.

Though UNM lost to both UNLV and San Diego State this week.

yes!

LB with a vote!

why is Murray State ranked so high?

They beat one top 25 team and smashed some pretty bad competition otherwise.

Undefeated. If they lose one, they’ll drop out of the top-25.

They are 3-0 against the RIP top-50 — but other than those three games, haven’t played anyone in the top-100 RPI according to CBS Sports.

watched about 10 minutes of their game saturday

they do not look “great” a lot of athletic guys, can play some D but something was missing to impress me completely.

Crazy, Spurs retiring Bruce Bowen’s number 12…. He’s hit some big shots but didnt think that gets your jersey retired… I wonder if Lakers will retire Fisher’s number.

No

they have an established policy of retiring numbers of HOF players who aside from Wilt Chamberlain, played the majority of the careers with the Lakers. Shaq and Kobe (which one 8 or 24) will be the next two players to get their jersey retired.

ah, so then that answers my question about Shaq, probably wont happen until he gets in HOF… Do you happen to know when is the 1st year he is eligible for HOF?

They should retire both 8 and 24,…. Kobe can add being the only player with 2 retired jerseys to his growing resume. I assume he would be the only one to have 2, in any sport.

I love the new Kobe commercial with Kanye…..“You’re welcome”

Wow, that is Padre-level

List of current retired numbers for the Spurs

00 – Johnny Moore, G, 1980–88 & 1989–90
6 – Avery Johnson, G, 1991, 1992–1993, 1994–2001
13 – James Silas, G, 1972–81
32 – Sean Elliott, F, 1989–93 & 1994–2001
44 – George Gervin, G, 1974–85 (Hall of Famer)
50 – David Robinson, C, 1989–2003 (Hall of Famer)

wow

The Spurs should be better than that…..

The town of San Antonio likes to celebrate long time members, not just “stars”.

slippery slope – you keep doing that and pretty soon you are into 3 digits numbers….or using letters

AA
AB
AC

With only 12 guys (I think it’s 12) on a NBA roster they have a long way to go before they have to worry about running out of double digit numbers.

If Bruce Bowen gets retired, then Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili are shoo-ins, along with Duncan of course. 10 is practically 88!

My man

I love the new math

Who cares? at one point each of those players gave the Spur fans about a decade of good work and they want to reward them for it.
As was noted last week n ot every franchise has had a super star playing from them every year of their existence. The Lakers and Celtics are quite unique in what they have built, no reason for other teams to hold themselves to the same HOF standards.

I care

just like when I see a smart and pretty girl dating a loser, because she is yet to realize that she is smart and pretty and worth oh so much more

come to think of it, I really hardly give a shit about either. I mean it would be nice, but I am kinda busy with my own shit

What do Maddz and Gary have to do with this?
;-)

awwww shit

The joke doesn't actually work because

Maddz does know.

is it too late to register for the TBLA team?

messed that up. i meant DT team

How do you feel about teams that elected to retire MJ's number?

who retired MJ’s number? I am not aware of this

for anyone outside Chicago is in not an honor, it is a marketing ploy

the Heat, for one, who also retired Dan Marino’s number

that’s all you really need to know about that

funny thing is, that junior marketing intern who convinced them this was a good idea is gone, any lift they got from that even is passed, and yet they are stuck this this blight on their sense of self worth forever

Lame move by a lame franchise.

I’m looking at you, Miami.

STFU Eric

As A Life Long Dolphins Fan I Must Support VeroJoe on this one.

Me too Grimjack!!!! How are we solving our QB dilemma now that Barkley is going back to USC? Flynn or do we trade up to nab RG3?

No on the trade. Wewe have many holes to fill and I think that we can trade down in the first and fill those needs. I can see the front office taking an OT in the first and if that is the case we can trade down and get later round picks as well. If we find no dance partners for a trade we still end up with a damn good OT and the possibilty of the kid out of A&M or OSU or Huston in the second or later. With Philbin coming on board I can see us taking on and developing a late round QB. Another QB that has not been mentioned is Jed Hoyer, who is up for free agency. I like him better than I do Flynn.

From Padres GM to Cubs Assistant to NFL QB Draft prospect. Jed Hoyer has had an interesting 18 months.

Right, it is Brian.

I was talking about the Heat.

They're all part

of the same humidity stew

sounds like the all girl school again

I probably should be quarantined

You said Miami and shit hit the fan dude

remember when the Dolphins were a franchise of gravitas

It’s been rough being a post 2000 Dolphins fan :(

Yet I still make several games every season

They went from Griese to just greasy.

Do we even know that is a phact since Josie posted it?

Eric posted it independent of me Mr. Crabs

do you know something we don’t?

at all girls schools, you often go all week without shaving your legs

is that so you keep each other warm at night?

that and whispering warm nothings

That

and the bathing together. And the hot oil wrestling.

Tell me the intimate details of the pillow fights

well afterward, me, Nancy, and Bess would all get sundaes

Dan Marino’s #13 is not retired, but it hangs in the rafters IIRC. Mike Miller is #13 on the Heat.

I’d say those are two different things.

So, anyone who wants to wear it

has to go up and get it?

It is a well known fact

it was at Jordan’s last game against Miami, on his farewell tour, and was an excuse to put some butts in seats when Miami was a buttless franchise

one time payoff for a legacy of shame

cheap and short sighted if you ask me

like they weren’t going to sell out that game anyway

Jordan is 10 better

Bowen is to the Spurs what Fisher is to the Lakers…..crazier things have happened

In June, Lakers said they will retire Shaq’s jersey, but never gave a date and still havent I believe… I wonder if that means it wont happen until next season??

They are waiting for Jerry Buss to die

that’s when AEG buys up the shares they don’t already own

According to the Dodgers facebook page:

It was 50 years ago today that Jackie Robinson was elected to the Hall Of Fame.

Super Bowl squares

I just bought three (5 bucks each). I’ve won precisely two things in the past: jack and shit. Maybe this’ll be the year. But it won’t.

Oh yeah, I should get a pool going.

I won the third quarter several years back (Steelers – Seahawks). That was worth $200. I am now destined never to win again. But I have to play the squares because it’s the only way I can enjoy the Super Bowl.

With this year's lineup

pools will be the only source of interest for me. I’ll be making my world-famous cocktail meatballs for the party I’m going to

I think you might have liked the wagering game we played last year.

Sickels has his farm system rankings up and the Dodgers are 22nd, which sucks, but isn’t all that shocking.

What does strike me is that there’s just not that much upside anywhere. Outside of the super prospects Harper, Trout and Profar it seems like there’s less talent out there than I can remember. Hell the Padres have the number two ranked system and their top prospect is a 25 year old who spent two and a half years in AAA. There’s been a lot of talk about how the CBA would drain talent from baseball, but if you look around it’s already started and it looks like it might only get worse.

Seems like a lot of great young talent has already ascended to the major leagues and that we are simply in a typical cycle.

Has it though? How many players who came into the league after Evan Longoria have even made it to an All Star Game? (Honest question)

first off using the All-Star as your criteria seems odd given it is you asking this question.

Seems like it would be easy to list a huge amount of players 25 and under who are good to great, or expected to be great(Moore) that have already seen major league service.

I figured it was the easiest way to do it without setting arbitrary WAR cutoffs that make Peter Bourjous the best young player in the last three years.

Like

Stanton
Sandoval
Cargo
Butler
Santana
Upton
McCutcheon
Posey
Avila

Stanton!

That is all

True. I think the problem is that the talent boom we saw from the late 80s to the beginning of the 2000s was not the norm and I’m just not used to having the Carlos Gonzalezs and Billy Butlers lead the pack.

Yeah, non steroid hitting simply lacks luster

Joe Mauer suggests using Head & Shoulders to restore that luster.

One advantage to Super Joe becoming Normal Joe is that someone else will surely take his spot in the Video Game ad’s.

For a second, I thought you were talking about Bionic Commando

Also not nitpicking this is just amazing to me. Justin Upton had 250 at bats before Evan Longoria entered the league.

This is how I see it.

There are Moore super prospects than just those.

Forgot to add hitting prospects.

It seems after every loss

there’s a new angry fan video, which has me worried about America

being angry after losses is something new? I guess putting it up on youtube is new.

This has always happened we just didn’t have youtube.

I guess my friends are just mellower. I wonder if these are still genuine reactions, or if they’ve gotten more theatrical cause we know someone has their camera out.

Your friends are normal people who ultimately realize that life will go on and not hideously broken people who craft an identity solely on liking a sports team.

Who is anyone to say what normal is?? I’d say people not having an emotional reaction thier teams big win, or big loss, isnt normal… Atleast a normal sports fan.

No your life and death approach and fighting people over sports is not at all normal.

well im not saying that is normal…. but IMO if you are a diehard fan and your favorite team is playing in a big game, you’re going to have an emotional reaction to the outcome of that game…. Not saying you’re going to break things or whatever, but I cant just be like oh well, maybe next year…. hunny whats for dinner??

I cant even see the youtube video at work so im not sure whats going on in that video though.

it’s a mild hissy fit, but basically his friends are like “I guess we root for the Patriots” and he freaks

I was a live and ide Laker fan

most of my life (Fuck the Celtics), but even when they went down to miserable defeat, I forgot about it five minutes after the game was over.

that is because you are old

sounds like another case of

Memento

Sid has a 5 year plan…….with his OLD BALLS

Well, if so, I wish I had that ability man… 5 mins?? USC loss to Texas took me a month to fully get over. Or atleast close, still not completely over it. … I’d evenhave dreams about it every few days where SC won, only to wake up and realize nope, they still lost….

Dodgers losing in 08, and 09, also took awhile for me to get over and feel somewhat happy again…. Also would dream about different outcomes in those games, only to wake up to the harsh reality haha

You should skip this year

yeah, but thats just in big games… Doesnt seem like Dodgers will have many of those, but I hope they do.

I have an emotional reaction, and then I get over it

I don’t cry like a bitch about it

there is an element of person who does equate what team they like to their own self esteem

I run from that person

Not me, IMO if my biggest problem in my life is whether my team wins or loses that day, id say my life aint so bad…. better then stressing about work, bills, or other stuff. But thats just me.

Well, you change something through observation, right?

So I think you have a point that some of this is self-indulgent, self-promoting shit

that said, I have been known to go a little batshit crazy, even today, when watching a game at home

Just like we always used racial slurs and made death threats to athletes who joke, we just couldn’t tell them directly.

I was so excited when Vinny said “If you have a Sombrero throw it to the sky” that I punched my windshield and shattered it

oh that was a fabulous mental image, thank you

haha thats awesome Joe….

at the time

it was expensive

I was waiting tables at Rosie’s Ribs, replacing that windshield was a bummer

but makes for a good story now

I thought you were kidding, what happens when you get real bad news?

not much anymore – I have mellowed

But I get it, you just got so filled with excitement that you didnt know what to do, so you punched your windshield…. Thats why the crazy things, like this video, fights, or cars getting set on fire happen in the moment, not weeks later. People just get so filled with excitement, or anger, that in that moment they lose control.

When I lose control, my depends take over

that needs to be a t-shirt, a tattoo, and a sitcom characters tag line

Bleep Bill Shatner says didn’t last long enough.

But I like the emotion and passion… I dont really get how people talk sports all day without having the emotion or passion behind it.

Emotion and passion are not the same as vitriol and violence.

yeah, im not saying you have to break windows.. but if Dodgers win WS, or lose the WS, and people would be over it either way in 5 mins???

I wouldn’t riot either way.

rioting is stupid

I would cry if they won

I would curse if they lost

I wouldnt riot either.

Many of your “real fans” would.

No, when have I ever said that or made a comment about that? I dont thinking rioting is ok, ever, for any reason.

old folk are dead inside

Anger is wasted on the young

He should have shot the TV – needs a new one, anyway.

Like in Precious.

Like Elvis (Kurt Russel) in this clip

when I was 12, this was about the most bad ass thing ever

Anyone see Jim Harbaugh's post game?

Pretty dickish – a lot like his protégé Luck, in fact.

Did he stick his foot up the ass of one Mr. Fuck Up Punt Returner?

I hope Ned Colletti at least called Kenny Williams last night to try to make some sort of deal during a time of distress.

That really bothered you didn’t it?

He can host a super bowl party

and invite his brother

I checked the calendar

he’s free

all I heard was he barely acknowledged Caughlin

What was dickish about what he or Luck said?

From what I heard he was just out of it

the dude is passionate, maybe don’t interview him right after he has had his soul crushed

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