Andre Ethier was interviewed by Mark Willard of ESPN Radio 710 in Los Angeles, and spoke about the knee injury that limited the right fielder to 11 home runs in 135 games and cut short season in early September:
"I've kind of dealt with this knee thing for the past two years, put it off for one off-season and then last season it just became a thing where a lot of things started multiplying and getting worse and something where I couldn't quite get back my swing … It was very frustrating and I learned a lot from that."
Ethier also expressed frustration at the Dodgers for not participating in any big free agent signings this winter, but noted, "Obviously it's going to get better from here on out because of the [sale] and getting new people in there." The interview will air on Saturday at 11:30 a.m. PST, which by then will make it about as fresh and timely as an interview by Lee 'Hacksaw' Hamilton.
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Clayton Kershaw caught up with Domingo Ayala (@DomingoBeisbol on Twitter) recently, and the two took part in a bullpen session together, and had a press conference for an upcoming "challenge" (hat tip to Xeifrank for the link):
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I can't thank you enough for the overwhelming amount of support you all showed me yesterday. I have written here at True Blue LA for over three years, and I'm thankful to have all of you as loyal readers and integral members of the community. There is nothing I love doing more than writing about the Dodgers, and about sports in general. Now, thanks to a freelance writing job I have taken, I will now have even more time to devote to doing a job I love.
My plan is to go to Arizona for six full weeks of spring training, and from then throughout the regular season provide you with more Dodgers coverage than ever before. Thanks again for reading, and for your support.
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Andre Ethier obviously doesn’t know who Mark Ellis is.
Congrats Eric! That really is awesome news!
OB12 - January 25, 2012
Thanks for taking care of the knee during the previous off seasons when it first started bothering you Andre. Nothing like sucking for a year 1/2 and coming into your free agent year to get that taken care of. Fuck you
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
trying to encourage Ethier to re-sign or resign?
BaldBilly - January 25, 2012
He is just doing what we’ve seen a lot of guys do, try to play through it with less than stellar results. Although letting it go on for a year and a half is pretty dumb.
OB12 - January 25, 2012
Does the writing job involve spray paint and restrooms?
BaldBilly - January 25, 2012
Giants suck?
BaldBilly - January 25, 2012
Eric is Banksy?
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
thanks!
I don’t post very much, but this site is one of my everyday pleasures. Thank you for your dedication to Dodger fans everywhere!!
teach4life - January 25, 2012
Ditto
Can’t post as much as I once did, maybe this summer, but I’m here to read most every day. You do a great job Eric, all of you guys do.
Little Blue Bicycle - January 25, 2012
Mind as well get Clippers talk
started a little early today. Clippers vs Lakers tonight. My SRS has the Lakers as 6 point favorites and Vegas says Lakers by 3.5. Looks like Chris Paul is going to start.
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
what is SRS if I may ask?
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
SRSly
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
Software Requirements Specification.
Oops, wrong world.
David Young - January 25, 2012 via iPhone app
Simple Rating System. B-ref uses it to power rank teams. Similar system used in BCS computer rankings and Pomeroy college basketball ratings.
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
I’m going to save myself the aggravation and watch Animal Planet instead.
ishXdavid - January 25, 2012
This much debate over the meaningless NBA. Imagine if UCLA had a football team. Wow.
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
I wish Chris was a around
Would love to get his take on the friendly coming up on Feb 29th and if he thinks Rossi will be back by summer
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Imagine if LA had a soccer team anyone actually cared about
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
or one at all
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
i know, right?
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
A former Galaxy player, used to play in our baseball league
Andy Oshay
he was probably the best player in the league, incredible athlete
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
you better still be playing ball in 5 years when I turn 30.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
A former Galaxy player used to be a barista at the Starbucks by my parents house. He quit soccer when he made shift manager.
ishXdavid - January 25, 2012
the funny thing if you could substitute NFL practice squad and have the same story. Or minor league baseball player.
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
Anybody know how much bullpen catchers make?
ishXdavid - January 25, 2012
squat
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
bravo!
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
+1
ishXdavid - January 25, 2012
HITNG
Also, all the sunflower seeds they can eat.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
and cleat chasers.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
or Baseball Annies, for you old timers
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
beaver bunnies
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
I’ve heard jersey chasers.
David Young - January 25, 2012 via iPhone app
all they can eat
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
our backup catcher for my fall team wanted to be a MLB bullpen catcher/strength and conditioning coach, but he had trouble catching rec league pitching. I didn’t have the heart to tell him he should give up his dream.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
I'm still chuckling at this
I guess he can learn the hard way through a visit to the ER.
ishXdavid - January 25, 2012
no joke, i’m proud to say i can still get to 85, but I threw a fastball off this guy’s mask this fall. Give it up, bro.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
Better the mask than the cup, right?
ishXdavid - January 25, 2012
The cup would be some trick
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
skip a deuce
bust a nut*
*not the good way
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I didn’t tell you the story about the guy who caught without a cup yet, have I?
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
nope
not sure I want to hear
did they bleed?
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I retell this story when I hear about people playing without a cup
It’s second hand, but from a trusted source.
The coach who told me the story coaches high school fall ball teams for kids looking to get scene by colleges and scouts. He told me of a player he had who would catch without a cup. One day, batter fouls the ball straight down, and it comes up and gets the guy in the man berries. He has serious discomfort, so he goes to the hospital. Doctor says he ruptured a testicle, needs to have it removed. Kid has surgery to remove his testicle, gets an infection during surgery, dies from the surgery.
Crazy stuff.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
I guess you can say…
One ball….
And you’re out!
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
ishXdavid - January 25, 2012
I laughed harder than I should have at this
Maddz - January 25, 2012 via iPhone app
=D
I was surfing all the Horatio memes the other night.
ishXdavid - January 25, 2012
I mostly
play without a cup
especially outfield
but even 3rd
damn you
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
You’re probably fine as long as you’re not a catcher. What a moron.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
Adrian Beltre says huh?
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Maybe with a cup he would not be so attentive:)
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Alexei Ramirez is not walking through that (dugout) door
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
Cup talk. Would Humma pay $1000 for one? What say you good folks?
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
and wow
did I really say “get scene”?
yeesh
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
That kid wasn’t as tough as Phil Nevin.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
Is he now a she?
ishXdavid - January 25, 2012
he was gelded.
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
hahah no not nfl practice squad you couldn't
those guys are actually really close to actually getting to be on the team.
nolander - January 25, 2012
it would be like saying Jerry Sands might quite baseball if he gets to be shift manager
at starbucks
nolander - January 25, 2012
Joe Becker might
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
theres only 8 guys on the practice squad
no comparison to minor league baseball
nolander - January 25, 2012
But keys, yo.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
Peyton Manning said the day after they fired Caldwell and the execs, they changed all the keys to the practice facility.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
well
they probably also released all their training staff
nolander - January 25, 2012
they did
dumb too. why would you release the training staff as Peyton Manning is halfway through his recovery. Some new trainer is going to have to learn his medical history on the fly.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
Its likely they will retain a lot of them in the end
but the new coach will get to hire his people.
nolander - January 25, 2012
Peyton who?
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
would you pay him his $28mil roster bonus to see if he’s healthy?
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
I have a loyalty problem
so I’d pay him
but rationally, might be time to move on
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
the reason the bonus is coming due
is because peyton told his agent to give the team an out if his injury never got better. They negotiated a huge contract for him knowing he had his injury, they already did the loyal thing.
nolander - January 25, 2012
trade him to Miami, use the saving to sign 2 offensive linemen, protect your next investment
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
when is it due
nolander - January 25, 2012
march 8
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
if he isn't healthy by then they don't pay it
and work out something else like eric says below.
nolander - January 25, 2012
If he stays, they would likely figure out a way to restructure that $28 million.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
Just their Luck.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
they up andrew and ace
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
yes!
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
writing on the wall “Thanks for the memories, now exit through the gift shop please”
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
so our the MLS reserves, but they both need side jobs
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
they make a lot more then them
http://www.ninersnation.com/2011/9/3/2401918/nfl-practice-squad-rules-salary-49ers-player-eligibility
nolander - January 25, 2012
per moth?
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
week
nolander - January 25, 2012
Depends how many they catch
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
so, they’re like major league baseball players in the 1950s
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
one ACL away!
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
So rank and file MLS ~= 2nd to 3rd tier athletes in major US sports. Got it.
David Young - January 25, 2012 via iPhone app
Just temporarily, I hear it is the next big thing here.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Oh wait, I’ve been hearing the same thing since they told me about jet packs. Then again, they must have come a long way since they are putting the fear of god into the Panamians National Team.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
yeah, I’ve been hearing that about as long as I have heard the Clippers have turned the corner
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
eh, we define corners differently. I’ll be writing about the Clipper Corner soon.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
is that next to Spiliken Corners?
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Magic Mountain FTW.
The Stuntmen - January 25, 2012
they have made real measurable progress
nolander - January 25, 2012
Measure it out for me in World Cup portions that I can understand. Not woman, men, the three legged folk
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
building stadiums
putting buts in seats seems like real measurable progress.
nolander - January 25, 2012
ah, I forgot I bounced into the MLS thread and out of the National thread.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
and the National Team now expects to qualify for the World Cup and make it through the group stage, that’s progress from 30 years ago
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
so you’re saying the USMNT has turned the corner?
ishXdavid - January 25, 2012
yes, yes I am saying that. Turned the corner in 1994.
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
But Alexi Lalas and his hair turned the corner in 1993
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
winning!
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
Do the MLS teams play in any kind of cups/tournaments against teams from other countries? Kind of like they do in Europe?
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
CONCACAF Champions League, Galaxy are about to start the knockout round.
They won their group, which had Morelia (MEX), Alajuelense (Costa Rica), and Motagua (Honduras)
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
she loves when we ask these questions
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
if for no other reason than to say CONCACAF
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
it’s such fun!
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
Cool. This should be marketed a little better. Call your people and let them know.
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
oh trust me, it’s a definite issue. CONCACAF is in charge of that, and CONCACAF should never be in charge of anything.
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
You’re saying that soccer is essentially a minor league sport.
Nolij - January 25, 2012
no I’m not, I’m saying that it’s not knocking soccer to say reserve league players can’t live on their wages.
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
huh, I see references to him on the 2007 reserve team roster, neat!
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
Soccer? Whats that?
EMDarrow - January 25, 2012
What is it good for?
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
UCLA will bounce back. The football program has turned the corner. =T
ishXdavid - January 25, 2012
haha funny stuff….. soooo I take my break and still no definition of SRS? Small Rample Size??
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
Strength R Schedule??
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
It’s probably something I wouldn’t understand.
ishXdavid - January 25, 2012
I’m sending out an SRS, sending out an SRS… Sink R Ship? Yeah I agree I probably wont understand it either.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
Simple Rating System
From Basketball-Reference.com:
Doug Drinen at Pro-Football-Reference.com has an even more detailed description of the system in general.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
oh I see…. thanks Eric im going to read more about it.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
Thanks
That’s meant to be “simple”? I’m so thankful I have all you smart people to guide my opinions.
ishXdavid - January 25, 2012
Math is the computers job.
regfairfield - January 25, 2012
Seriously, where is Beautiful Mind when you need him?
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
running towards and away from madness at the same time
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
That’s as good a description of that movie as any.
I did get a little choked up at the pens scene.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
Hahahaha rample
Maddz - January 25, 2012 via iPhone app
Troll.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
don't hape the player
hate the game
nolander - January 25, 2012
five little letters and a dot
hit our Josie on the spot
Trolling for laughs
Hoping for mirth
my ass better get back to work
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I love that you say meaningless NBA when you are a soccer fan
:)
Ivdown - January 25, 2012
the game of soccer is not meaningless. the day in day out of MLS is probably meaningless
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
none of it is meaningless…. to call any sports meaningless is insulting to that fan base. They may not be here to defend themselves, but all sports deserve respect IMO.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
thank you for the statement of humanity Chris
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
in a world where Josie is being self depreciating after stirring the pot on a slow morning, one man will stand up for humanity
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
Josie is trolling this morning, may have something to do with that elusive corner
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
kick
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
the national team plays in Panama tonight, I’m a bit on edge.
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
Ohhhh Panama, our home and native laaaand
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
The land of 240 Million against little Panama puts national soccer fans on edge. Funny, they have a population of 3.5 Million.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
we’re at 350million citizens
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
Yes, but the number of people who know how to properly kick a soccer ball are about the same in each country.
BFDC - January 25, 2012
every Panamanian citizen would have to buy 1 little caesers hot and fresh for the Tigers to be able to pay Prince Fielder.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
Central America is like a soccer team death trap
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
and sometimes Central America is just a plain ole everybody death trap
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
We talking Kansas here?
kinbote - January 25, 2012
ha
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
not anymore
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
even ping pong
because ping pong is crazy
nolander - January 25, 2012
Yeah man, I dont know how they do it.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
It's Table Tennis, bud.
ishXdavid - January 25, 2012
its madness is what it is
nolander - January 25, 2012
I just love playing ping pong with my flexolite ping pong paddle
VeroJoe - January 25, 2012
table tennis is what the true sportsmen call it
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Ping pong rallies on.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
Teach it to your children. It will be a good skill to have while meeting with Chinese businessmen later this century.
kinbote - January 25, 2012
that and a taste for monkey brains
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
The Temple of Doom was in India, not China,
ishXdavid - January 25, 2012
Yes! That and Tai Chi, kite flying and badminton. They all seemed to be the rage over there. There was a badminton court under my hotel (2nd floor) window last time. Those guys get pretty loud.
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
they love the Badminton
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Never been. Would love to go. (My wife asked me last night if I’d live in Hong Kong—she’s elliptical like that).
kinbote - January 25, 2012
You should go, it’s great. Just bring some anti-biotics for the likely sinus infection you will get. /pollution
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
oof
I could never do it, I already get too many of those
nolander - January 25, 2012
I wouldn't have expected this from chris
But I love that it was said.
Ivdown - January 25, 2012
blah, blah, blah
Sports are nothing, respect people
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
nolander - January 25, 2012
I think its implied there
nolander - January 25, 2012
I have to commend you for enduring MLS soccer. I have a hard time watching it. I can watch European soccer, but watching MLS is like watching Turkish basketball.
ishXdavid - January 25, 2012
but if you lived in Turkey, that bball would be the shit
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
If you didn’t own a TV.
Nolij - January 25, 2012
or the Bobcats vs Wizards
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
Its tough to watch, no question…. It drives my Italian buddy up the fuckin wall…. But you know, gotta start somewhere…. and whatever helps make LA a title down, im all for, for the most part…. How can MLS get more money into it though??
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
Be interesting is a start
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
But they cant be interesting without world class players. Cant get world class players without world class money…. Wonder what MLS plan is to eventually get soccer to that level.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
devalue the Euro
prop up the dollar
Play dollar wages to players who sock money away and spend it in Euro countries
/not going to happen
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I'm going to be a Galaxy fan
just so I could troll Chivas blogs.
ishXdavid - January 25, 2012
right now MLS is a single entity, so much of it is being attractive enough to get great corporate partners, it’s also selling out the stadiums that have been built, and it’s being attractive enough for the David Beckham’s and Thierry Henry’s to want to come here
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
Does Ms Turkey attend games?? That would be awesome!
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
Carl’s needs to offer a Turkey burger in her honor
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Both teams coming off two days rest. Paul will probably be rusty, line seems right. Other then the Celtics, I got more money for this game then any other Laker game this year.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Arian Foster
I can see a number of teams putting in huge offer sheets for Foster (Restricted Free Agent). The new CBA only allows a 1st round tender (as opposed to 1st and 3rd) and the Texans are dealing with cap issues.
nola, are you worried about losing him?
silverwidow - January 25, 2012
no
nolander - January 25, 2012
Foster is no dummy
and the number of teams that would be able to put him in as good a position to succeed as the texans is… small. Not everyone runs a zone blocking scheme and arguably no one does it as good as us. And we should be able to match any offer anyways.
nolander - January 25, 2012
and he like every other player loves kubes
nolander - January 25, 2012
Yeah, everybody in the world wants to be a Houston Texan….
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
You sound like a Laker or Yankee fan IMO when you talk about the Texans haha… im just playin.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
you are "playing" but I know you are not
players love kubes, its no secret, they talk about it all the time. And nothing I said about our ability to put him in the best position to succeed is wrong. Did you miss the last several years of amazing Houston offense?
nolander - January 25, 2012
haha ok, you are right, I just said im playing because I didnt want the comment to go anywhere….. Its not just this comment, but all the comments I have seen about the Texans, feel like you talk about the Texans like they are some kind of dynasty, or greatest NFL franchise ever. You put them on some super franchise level. But maybe im just getting the wrong idea…. Texans are a good team though, and on the rise……I would of just said Foster is no dummy, he is going to look for the most money….which IMO is what he will do. But I think Texans match no matter what. Mario sounds like the guy they might let go.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
I think they try to retain mario
but they could go either way. They also need to retain Chris Meyers(best zone blocking center in football right now). I talk that way about the Texans because they are a classy organization on the rise, and yeah, they are a really damn good football team. If Schuab was healthy I think we would have been talking about them playing the giants in two weeks, not the pats.
nolander - January 25, 2012
this whole “your franchise is only good now but they haven’t been good forever so they don’t count” thing you have going sucks man. Today is what matters, championships are fun to point to and remember but if your team sucks they suck and if your team is competitive now then they’re competitive. You need to learn how to let fans of other teams have their moment and not make everything about your favorite team. Are you sure you aren’t from Cal?
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
boom
nolander - January 25, 2012
dude, im a Raider fan, my team fuckin sucks…. Where did I make it about my favorite team?
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
it’s not always about 1 comment, Chris.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
Also, ive never said he shouldnt have his moment or be happy about the Texans, or be excited about the future. All I was saying is IMO, he talks about the Texans like its where every player wants to be, they’d take less money to play for Kubiack because he is the greatest HC in the NFL, Players want to be a Texan so bad they will take less money becayse they want to win…. Now he never directly said any of this, but thats how it comes across to me when he talks about Texans and I dont see it like that at all…. see, this is why I should of just stuck to my im just playin comment.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
no I didn't say that at all
I did say players love playing for Kubiak. This isn’t idle speculation, this is culled from years of watching and hearing players say they love kubiak, that they believe in him and love playing for him. If you don’t like it, deal.
I didn’t say players want to be Texans just because like they would be Yankees, what I did say was a very specific thing about the scheme and strength of our football team, and how it benefits foster.
Reading Comprehension, do you speak it?
nolander - January 25, 2012
ok, thats fine…. I still think Foster goes for the most money, whatever system its in. But Id expect Texans will match any offer.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
you always do this when someone talks about their team
as long as that team isn’t the lakers “man why you acting like your team is so good they aren’t a dynasty!”. Shit I wasn’t talking about dynasty I only have been talking about the current state of the organization and you always jump in with that.
nolander - January 25, 2012
We call that the Yankee / Laker / Celtic dick chip.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
if you use it in every convo
it stops being a chip and starts becoming a mockery of a sham
nolander - January 25, 2012
there will be no sham mocking here
pillow rights forever
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
You left out USC football.
I wonder how old usChris was during the Tollner and Smith years.
David Young - January 25, 2012
We will find out as he deals with the Mike Brown years
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Well, im 33 now, 34 in May, so there ya go… I dont remember Tollner though.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
I wish I didn't remember Tollner
My old brain has merged Tollner, Larry Smith and Paul Hackett into one big monster of coaching fail
mleadman - January 25, 2012
I sort of blend them all together too, but Smith wasn’t that bad. At least until the Freedom Bowl loss to Fresno State.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
Did you all like Robinson or to early for you kids
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
I never knew his first tenure at USC, which was amazing, but liked him in his second turn with the Trojans.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
ok, fair enough man, my bad.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
wait, cant Houston just franchise tag Foster??
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
I don't know
but they won’t, its probably long term deal or bust
nolander - January 25, 2012
If Clippers win tonight
They will win the season series against the Lakers for the third time in franchise history.
1992-1993 Clippers won 3 of 5 against the Lakers
1974-1975 Braves won all 4 against the Lakers (Lakers were so mad, they traded for Kareem that offseason)
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
Trying to jinx us?
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Take it to the Clippers thread!
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
So after the Clippers beat the Lakers tonight
We’ll go get Dwight Howard!
ishXdavid - January 25, 2012
I dont think Howard goes anywhere until after the allstar break, if at all.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
This year is just a 3 game series, so I say put anterisk next to it
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
not if they sweep
nolander - January 25, 2012
an ampersand?
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
was 92-93 the year the Clips had that blow out win that made Chick Hearn say “this is not a dream, there is nothing wrong with your tv set, this is actually happening”
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
We turned the corner that night
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Clippers are 24-9 (.727) in their last 33 games at Staples Center, dating back to last year (includes two road losses to Lakers).
During that same span, Lakers are 27-10 (.730) at Staples Center, including two road losses to the Clippers.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
Home team has won the last four Clippers/Lakers tilts, and 9 of the last 10
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
They have also sold over 19,000 tickets every home game since Feb 2nd, 2011. It was curious in the month of Jan, 2011 they had some 17, 000 and 15,000 ticket games, then they sold out to the Bulls on Feb 2nd, went on an 11 game road trip losing 9 of 11 but came home and basically sold out the rest of the season.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Clippers lead NBA in Road Attendance
Road attendance is interesting. I’d say for the first time in history the Clippers are averaging more fans on the road then the Lakers 19, 482 compared to 19,329. Still extremely close and to early in the season to mean anything since they have not visited the same places.
In 2010/2011 the Clippers were 7th
In 2009/201 the Clippes were 29th of 30
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
are NBA arenas all about the same size? would it matter who they have played so far? Have the CLippers played more well-attended teams on the road than the lakers have? I’m just curious
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
Clippers have played only four road games:
at Golden State (Christmas night)
at Portland
at San Antonio
at Utah
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
so you start with a sellout opening night at that cavernous Oakland Arena, then go to basketball’s three best cities
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
In capacity
Utah (19,911)
Portland (19,980)
San Antonio (18,581)
Golden State (19,596)
List here
That’s 19,517 average capacity, which is still great for the Clippers who are averaging 35 seats less than capacity using Phil’s numbers. 99.8% ain’t too shabby.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
Curious on the Portland Capacity because based on the box scores the Lakers drew 20, 444 and the Clippers drew 20, 381.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
the capacity is always deflated the appease the fire marshall, surprising that they’d release figures above capacity though
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
Could be that Wiki isn’t updated.
I checked the Blazers game notes and it looks like their capacity is 20,510
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
Yes it matters
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
For Ethier (With Love and Squalor)
Darlin’ I can’t explain
Where did we lose our way
[Dre] it’s drivin’ me insane
And I know I just need one more chance
To prove my [team loyalty] to you
If you come back to me
I’ll guarantee
That I’ll never let you go
Can we go back to the days our [working relationship] was strong
Can you tell me how a perfect [player/team dynamic] goes wrong
Can somebody tell me how to get things back
The way they use to be
Oh God give me a reason
I’m down on bended knee
I’ll never walk again until you come back to me
I’m down on bended knee
kinbote - January 25, 2012
my loins just twitched
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
Bote II Men?
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
Yes and Yes!
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
I deserved that one. Clink!
kinbote - January 25, 2012
I so want to eat a breakfast burrito
but I say NO, NO! NO!!!!!
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I just finished mine. It was Aramark, and it was delicious.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
yeah – 20 years makes a big difference my friend
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Craig gave me a place, but it may be too expensive for us right now. Going to put on a wine event instead. A little easier to put on and a lot less per head. Need to find somewhere in Pasadena area that is going to let us have a private room and will do it classy.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
I know the owners of a great place in Hollywood
Vintage Enoteca
I know no one in Pasadena
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Awesome. His clients are in clusters (nature of referrals, I suppose) so he has events either in Pasadena, Beverly Hills, West Side (I think Hollywood would work) and Newport.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
Sure – give them my name – tell them it is Joe who rides a bike and drinks all of their Italian Reds.
They don’t have a private room, but they have closed the place for private events in the past
there is a wine shop in Alta Dena that has a great cellar for these kind of events too
how many people?
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
10-16, hoping for 40 bucks a head, maybe a 2ish hour event
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
the Alta Dena place sounds promising as well.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
I’m not sure shutting down your wine bar for 2 hours for 400-600 bucks would be worth it though.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
depends on the day and the hours probably – but ask them and see what you get
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
done and done. what was the name of the place in Alta Dena?
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
not altadena
Atwater
55 Degree
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
This one looks great. I’ve sent them both inquiries. Thanks for your help, Joe.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
I know more options if you need it, but would start there
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Yeah two places is a great start. Thanks again. I have a game this Saturday afternoon or I would see if you wanted to hit the cages.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
Wghere in Altadena?
Do you mean Mission Wine on Washington in Pasadena?
mleadman - January 25, 2012
keep reading
mixed up Altadena with Atwater Village
not sure how, but I did
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Isn’t Beverly Hills closer to the Westside than Hollywood, generally?
David Young - January 25, 2012
yeah, I remember him referring to “west side” as beverly hills/santa monica. another pocket in south valley being sherman oaks/studio city. I think Hollywood would be central enough for both sets.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
the original comment was deleted gary
because no subject
nolander - January 25, 2012
ahhh – How’d I do that?
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I misread this at first.
David Young - January 25, 2012
erotica?
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
No, biblioteca. ;-)
David Young - January 25, 2012
Donde esta el biblioteca?
Ivdown - January 25, 2012
RIP
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
Im getting Bobbi's from Camarillo soon
Bacon, egg, and cheese breakfast burrito…mmmmm
Hopefully it’s good, I’ve never had from there before.
Ivdown - January 25, 2012
Anthony Bourdain was eating breakfast burritos in L.A. last night on “The Layover.” Forgot the name of the joint.
kinbote - January 25, 2012
he made his own breakfast one morning and I almost flipped out. so many wasted opportunities to go to awesome breakfast joints.
hee came hee seop'd he choi'd - January 25, 2012
Dude! Bobbi’s is one of my favorite places to eat! Their burritos rock. Maybe I will grab one on my way over to the Nard this evening.
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
When I posted that I figured you'd know it
I’m hoping it’s good, and from what i’ve heard about it, I shouldn’t be disappointed.
Ivdown - January 25, 2012
There’s a good Chinese dim-sum place a couple of doors down and of course Wood Ranch across the street.
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
I've never been to a Wood Ranch either
I need to get out to more places, lol.
Ivdown - January 25, 2012
I've heard mixed things on Wood Ranch
nolander - January 25, 2012
The grilled asparagus and baked potatoes are great sides. It’s a good date or birthday place to eat.
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
and best of all, Bobbi’s has soccer on their TVs all the time. /Josie
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
BOBBI!
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
That’s where my 7 year old daughter learned how to make a free kick wall in soccer. I asked her after one of our games, how did you guys know how to make a wall in front of the goal? She said she saw it on the TV at Bobbi’s.
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
brill.
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
It’s my favorite AM food item round these parts. My coworker and I always go to the same place. They heat the huge flour tortilla, put on eggs, potatoes, and more thick, dark, crispy bacon than anyone should have. We skip the cheese and get salsa on the side (makes it too soggy). It’s really damn good. (I get jalapenos when I’m feeling frisky.)
kinbote - January 25, 2012
Do you guys like superfluous amounts of hash browns in your breakfast burritos? It’s hard to find a place with just the right combo of eggs, meat and potatoes.
silverwidow - January 25, 2012
No
kinbote - January 25, 2012
I love potatoes
give me all the potatoes you have
nolander - January 25, 2012
by the use of the word “superfluous” you already have implied the answer
for me, it is an egg and salsa dish, the potatoes and meat are complementary players
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I love eggs
give me all the eggs you have
nolander - January 25, 2012
I like potatoes in breakfast burritos but I don’t think they are necessary.
I enjoy meat, eggs, and salsa. Potatoes and cheese are welcome as well, but not too much (depending on the level of inebriation I suppose)
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
I love meat
give me all the meat you have
nolander - January 25, 2012
This is one of those quotes that should be screen captured and used out of context over and over again.
David Young - January 25, 2012
i went there thrice but never committed
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Burrito Potato Content is linearly proportionate to Blood Alcohol Content. The higher your BAC, the higher your BPC needs to be.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
Words to live by
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
I just made a breakfast burrito: eggs, bacon, cheese – seasoned with Lawry’s in a flour tortilla
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
Is that hot sauce?
Ivdown - January 25, 2012
no
its meat seasoning.
nolander - January 25, 2012
but it’s great on eggs, salsa would have taken it in a new direction
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
its probably good on most everything
nolander - January 25, 2012
Oh ok
Besides the seasoning that sounds great
Ivdown - January 25, 2012
You didn’t even know what it was! How do you know if you would or wouldn’t like the seasoning?
David Young - January 25, 2012
food phobic
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I don’t need fancy extras, i’ve got bacon, egg, and cheese, that combo alone is amazing
Ivdown - January 25, 2012
and MSG
mleadman - January 25, 2012
keep reading
nolander - January 25, 2012
Yeah
it used to have MSG, but then again what didn’t
mleadman - January 25, 2012
interesting
I was practically raised on the stuff, wonder when they removed the msg.
nolander - January 25, 2012
4 years after they said they did
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
did you just through the lawry's on after cooking?
nolander - January 25, 2012
bacon in skillet, eggs on top of cooked bacon, Lawry’s, cheese, plate.
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
you cooked the eggs on top of the bacon?
or just in the bacon grease?
nolander - January 25, 2012
on top of, just made a big scramble. I usually do it with sausage, but didn’t have any
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
Must have been some really oily eggs.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
is there MSG in that seasoning?
delias man - January 25, 2012
None in Lawry’s, says it on the label
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
little green box
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
@Eric S.
great news on the new job Eric. Glad to hear you will be in Arz for spring training, will give us TBLArs great insight I am sure. I passed along a little beer money to you (day late, hopefully not a dollar short).
With the recent snowfall up here I hope we get busy and hire a couple more people, and I can get back to spending more time at my desk, and in turn more time at the computer so I can be on here more often.
anyone looking for a little ski/board time I can personally report that Mammoth Mountain has fantastic conditions RIGHT NOW!
MammothDodger - January 25, 2012
Not going to melt tomorrow is it? 87 here
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
forecast calls for low 50s in town today and tomorrow
Will stay in the 40’s on the mountain, then gets colder over the weekend. So should be fine, we are not Big Bear, town is 8500 ft and the Main lodge is at 9000.
MammothDodger - January 25, 2012
I know nothing
are Mammoth and Big Bear the ones up the 2?
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
damn, this is crazy talk from a LA person born and bred
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
yup
MammothDodger - January 25, 2012
Mammoth is in the Sierra
300 +/- miles up highway 395.
Big bear you can see on a clear day
MammothDodger - January 25, 2012
Mammoth is awesome, love camping there. I really want another Mono Cone.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
sadly Mono Cone
is closed in WInter. But on the plus side, Matt Toomey, chef at the Whoa Nellie Deli in Lee Vining opened a to go place in Mammoth. So the best fish tacos in the world are availble to me year round now
MammothDodger - January 25, 2012
Cant remember if I asked you, but did that Bodie Ghost Town survive those high winds? Its still around right?
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
Winds plays havoc with ghosts
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
it has stood for a long time
so I would imagine it survived. I have heard nothing to the contrary at least.
MammothDodger - January 25, 2012
Yeah, only thing that hurt it was some fire a long time ago I guess…. yeah I havent been to Mammoth in a long time. Hope to go this summer. Went camping 2 summers there, I just remember the ghost town, mono lake, and the hot springs. Sulfer smells, but love the hot water coming from the ground.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
Big Bear is more near me.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
the local news kept talking about people going up Highway 2 to some resort
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
ah Mountain High Ski Resort. That’s what I was thinking of
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
Mammoth is to Mountain High
as the Brazil National team is to the worst team in the MLS
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
nice
MammothDodger - January 25, 2012
I figured, but it’s the closest to LA so it’s the one the local news sends someone to whenever Stormwatch starts every year. Pretty sure I had my confirmation retreat there.
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
channel 7 and 4
have both had crews hear recently, first to say whre the fuck is the snow, then to say it came all at fucking once. people that have been around here awhile call this normal.
MammothDodger - January 25, 2012
It was normal not to have snow by Jan 15th? That did not seem normal.
I miss skiing, it was the one sport my wife and I could do together.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
you no longer ski?
I see old people in the mountains all the time Phil
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I could easily ski, but she no longer can (knee problems) so it would suck for me to sneak off and ski knowing how much she would want to.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
bummer….. I feel for you.
Mrs HJ is semi-retired, she has some knee issues, but she likes to Knit by fireplaces, so it mostly works out
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I love knitting by a fireplace, with some basketball or hockey on the wireless.
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
Surprisingly, simply snow shoe hiking and digging tunnels into huge gobs of snow is fun. It is how I first knew I was meercat blood.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
I like snow shoes, long ago did at least one winter backpacking trip a year for about 5 or 6 years straight, sometimes 3 or 4 trips into the hills
I also like X-country, but have only done that a couple of times at Mt. Pinos
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
no doubt int was dry longer than most years
but there have been several years that were dry well into Dec and at least one since I have been here dry into Jan.
What I meant was snowfall is unpredictable. After last year, which was a serious aberation for a La Nina year, we had people who had been here for a very short time saying since it was La Nina again we could get a 1000 inches of snowfall this year.
Any attempt to predict weather more that 6-10 days out suffers from a huge SSS problem.
MammothDodger - January 25, 2012
Quite likely. There is a retreat house run by nuns in Wrightwood, which Mtn High is just outside of. Way back in the day, I did a retreat there.
David Young - January 25, 2012
yeah, Mountain High I think is just the closest place to go for snow from the Valleys, and LA.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
we really did the surf in the morning and then catch Mountain High in the afternoon or night skiing thing a couple of times just to say we did it
it was fun
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I remember the 70's too
I did that a few time shortly after getting my drivers license and the family station wagon
MammothDodger - January 25, 2012
the old family wago
one time I blew the radiator hose going up to Mountain High and some rough looking bikers in a pickup truck stopped to help me.
I was a little scared at first, but they fixed my car, gave me and my buddy a lift up to the mountain, fed me a homemade potato and bean burrito, and then drove us back at the end of the day
that is a cherished memory and a huge reminder to take people as they are, instead of how they look
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Mt Waterman
is on Angeles Crest highway (2)
mleadman - January 25, 2012
Since he came up yesterday
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
classic
MammothDodger - January 25, 2012
how either of those men functioned in the real world is beyond me
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
Spud might have had the greatest vertical leap in history
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Spud Webb is taller than Humma.
Nolij - January 25, 2012
Also, I can’t function in the real world.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
I can, Spud and I are eye level.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Spud is my height. What would the problem be for him in the real world?
David Young - January 25, 2012
Evidently you and I have trouble functioning in the real world
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Gotta be Spud Web, one of my all time favorite College players.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Man I have no memory of him in college. Only the pros, and the slam dunk contest that Dominique should have won (just like against Jordan in 1988)
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
From Wiki
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
North Carolina State was my favorite team at the time after falling in love with them during the Valvano run to the championship.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
his dunks were awesome
not sure if Manute could dunk at all, seriuoly Tommy L like hops
MammothDodger - January 25, 2012
look at those legs!
so skinny if he jumped any higher they would shatter on landing
nolander - January 25, 2012
Manute Bol was the one who came up yesterday
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
I know, figured most had no idea who Spud was
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
kids
:-(
MammothDodger - January 25, 2012
hell yeah, Spud Webb and Dominque Wilkins, classic Hawks for me.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
Wilkins was the Clipper who helped them turn the corner
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
on the way to Psyclone?
The Stuntmen - January 25, 2012
The corner turned into a dead end street, but you retrace and try another route.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
and wind up at Roaring Rapids?
The Stuntmen - January 25, 2012
and bounce back
Nolij - January 25, 2012
out of uniform
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I'm already sick of draft talk
and the football season isn’t even over yet
nolander - January 25, 2012
I hear ya - I tell myself
you don’t have to watch
they have to fill airwaves
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Yeah, and the dam draft isnt until end of April, so still a long way to go to hear about it daily…. Wonder why they dont have draft end of February, or early March, get it over with.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
because money
nolander - January 25, 2012
There’s more sports going on in April than in late Feb. Hockey and Basketball in both periods, but you also have baseball in April. Seems like late Feb would be a better time to “cash in” on the exhiliration that is the NFL draft.
Michael White - January 25, 2012
yeah I agree… The NBA Finals is in June, Draft is in July. Though I know NBA has a much shorter offseason as well. Anyways, would like to know where the NFL came up with April for its draft, basically 3 months after SB.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
they start cashing in as soon as the super bowl is over
they have a nonstop amount of draft talk and buzz for two months. Not sure if the boost they would get in tv ratings for the actual draft itself earlier would offset that.
nolander - January 25, 2012
Right, but hasnt the NFL Draft been in April for as long as there has been a draft?? Before ESPN and all the coverage stuff?
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
ah, a buddy of mine said maybe its because of school…. so players can “finish school”… Otherwise some would just drop out right after being drafted in February. That is probably it I think.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
Which probably also explains why baseball draft is in June, when HS is out…. and NBA draft is in July when school is out.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
For baseball, it’s more about getting high school and college kids into workouts outside of a competitive setting.
For basketball, it’s when the season ends.
Football makes no sense.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
I think it’s to maximize Mel Kiper’s visibility.
Nolij - January 25, 2012
It all fits into their off-season plans
Free agency starts in March, workouts begin then. There is the combine in February but the top players don’t workout there, they workout at their schools in Feb – April.
More importantly, it keeps football talk going on throughout the year.
bhsportsguy - January 25, 2012
The top players certainly do workout at the combine
some of them don’t, but most do.
nolander - January 25, 2012
got these networks that need to fill airtime
got these ads that need to be scene
got these people who will watch it rather than doing something else
sounds like money to me
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
his hair does that already
I do admire his ability to make a thing out of his thing
The Football Scientist on ESPN pretty cool too
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
It makes sense for the reasons I said above
I don’t like it, but it is what it is.
nolander - January 25, 2012
For most fans right now though, it's all we have to "look forward to" sad though that may sound.
At least in the near future. Draft is overhyped but it’s still important. Though chris shouldn’t have to worry about it too much. ;0)
underdog - January 25, 2012
many texans fans will tell you its the highlight of our season
I won’t because thats stupid, but its a thing.
nolander - January 25, 2012
I like the draft, because if you are a Steeler fan you have come to rely on it
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I enjoy it
but I don’t want to watch X player get hyped for a month, then see Y player get drafted, see everyone flip their lidsa t first becuase they thought we where getting X, only to find out Y is actually also highly rated and turns out to be the better player or just as good..
You can insert Cameron Jordan for X and JJ Watt for Y. Or matthews and cushing respectively.
nolander - January 25, 2012
I have no reason to watch this year, since the Raiders don’t pick until May or so.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
you could trade up!
nolander - January 25, 2012
hehe
yeah that was my joke for chris above.
yeah, joe, that’s how others should model themselves, after how the steelers have done it.
underdog - January 25, 2012
(Especially with so many free agency busts, or unwieldy contracts)
really respect teams that have built up primarily through good scouting and drafting
anyway, mel kiper can go stuff himself, but i still enjoy following draft.
underdog - January 25, 2012
Why I stopped watching ESPN:
year round football coverage that usually trumps baseball even in the offseason.
Ivdown - January 25, 2012
the eyes vote
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
current breakdown, according to deadspin
source
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
like.. RIGHT NOW?
question is what is it during baseball season
nolander - January 25, 2012
NFL might come down to a more reasonable 25%, NBA and MLB switch would be my guess
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
I wonder what this looks like in April or May
Ivdown - January 25, 2012
Tim Tebow 3284723473248 Minutes
ishXdavid - January 25, 2012
I can relate to that. Can we not give football a rest when they are not in season? Geez.
OB12 - January 25, 2012
Anyone ever snowsled down a hill with their dog?
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
nope, I dont want to give my dog a heart attack.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
my dog loved the snow, but that is something we didn’t do
he was also 90 lbs. I did get him to mush for about a 100 yards but that was it
sounds fun
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
damn dog thoughts make me cry
here is my guy – Bodhi – he is missed

Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Love the scarf
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
and walking stick
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
you've got an eye for quality
made it myself, in the woods of North Carolina, with the same dog, in the winter of 2003
this was thanksgiving weekend a few years back in Idlewild.
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
He was well fed
mleadman - January 25, 2012
yes, these were his comfort years
this hike was his last great adventure, he has to be 10 years old at the time. Busted his butt on one heck of a hike. Slept for like 16 hours the next day. Mrs HJ and the Dachshund was also along for the hike, she calls it the “Thanksgiving Death March” to this day
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I like how you had the Dachshund take the photo since Mrs HJ was probably sitting on a rock.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
so, um, how was it?
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
my kids have tried
without much success at keeping our dog on the sled.
MammothDodger - January 25, 2012
Nope. My dogs probably wouldn’t take to that. I have friends whose dogs do love the SeaDoo ride though.
David Young - January 25, 2012
From the Clips Nation preview
Kobe’s 38.8% usage rate this season is the highest in the history of the stat.
Michael White - January 25, 2012
Seems about right.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
For reference
Usage Rate is a percentage…
Kobe was at 38.7% in 2005-2006 when he led the league in scoring at 35.4 points per game. This year Kobe is at 38.8%, and for his career he is at 31.7%. Kobe led the league in usage rate in 2006 and 2011 (35.1%).
Jordan’s usage rate when he scored 3,000 points (37.1 ppg in 1987) was 38.3%, his career high and one of eight times Jordan led the NBA in the stat. For his career, Jordan’s usage rate was 33.3%.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
Kevin Love signed a 4 year extension today. He said he would have gone 5 but the team only wanted to give him 4.
Umm, what the hell TWolves?
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
The TWolves are stupid.
Michael White - January 25, 2012
Love Love Love
He’d be my favorite Laker the moment he joined the team
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
The Houston Love
mleadman - January 25, 2012
The Houston Whitney’s
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
The Houston Blow
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
The Houston Tony Montana’s
VeroJoe - January 25, 2012
The Houston Joe Montanas
fbihop - January 25, 2012
The Houston Over-Actors
mleadman - January 25, 2012
The Houston Screamers
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Houston Hotel Room Hookers
Pure Azure - January 25, 2012
Houston Hugh Grants
VeroJoe - January 25, 2012
Now a trade to the Lakers for Pau would be more plausible because of the salaries.
ishXdavid - January 25, 2012
Too lazy to reply to exact comments so here they all are.
1. Andre Ethier joins a long list of players who thought they could play through something but end up getting surgery later. A pox on Andre for that.
2. I heartily endorse Vintage Enoteca. Wonderful people there.
3. I am glad to see that someone here watches local news.
4. This is my take on the whole Clipper/Laker thing, for right now, this season, there is something to these games. You can’t compare this Clipper team to any other team in their past because Paul and Billups bring a dimension and presence lacking in their history. Will go beyond this season, let’s hope so for LA, it will add a new dimension to the NBA.
5. Lucky Boy on Arroyo in Pasadena still makes the best breakfast burrito.
6. Seeing those seasoned salt shakers at Lawry’s Carvery at LA Live the other day reminds me of the old California Center and of course, Lawry’s Prime Rib. I don’t use the salt that often anymore but it was a stable back in the day.
bhsportsguy - January 25, 2012
Lucky Boy is good.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
Awesome! I’m definitely looking into Vintage Enoteca first.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
I read that as Vintage Erotica.
Nolij - January 25, 2012
As did I. And I thought it was great that BH was heartily endorsing it.
kinbote - January 25, 2012
The porn these days leaves nothing to the imagination!
Nolij - January 25, 2012
Bettie Page FTW!
underdog - January 25, 2012
Okay to be honest
the first time I met HJ there (and it is in Hollywood on Sunset Blvd). I saw the sign and thought, hey did HJ send me to an adult book store.
Then I saw the wine.
An aside, the owners are two very lovely women who are both knowledgeable about wine and very personable.
bhsportsguy - January 25, 2012
Do you think it’s something that would be offputting to high-yield clients?
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
attractive women?
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
an adult book store look
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
it doesn’t look like an adult bookstore – it looks like a charming wine bar / cafe
the dirty minds on this site can’t read. if the invite says local wine bar Vintage Enoteca (Italian for wine store) then I think you are safe
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I thought Erotica from the get go.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
you guys kill me
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Gary’s clients might be bummed if at first glance they think he took them to an upscale erotica store only to find out it was a wine cafe. Emotional roller coaster:
awesome
disappointment
this is cool
awesome
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
I have taken about a half dozen business meetings there and have never had that fear
I even invited women clients there without issue
Maybe we all should just call it Vintage from now on
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Yes it does look like that
it is really a great place, hope to go back soon, like maybe tonight.
bhsportsguy - January 25, 2012
since I’ve decided to go all in with this cut the chord business, local news is how I see sports highlights.
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
isn't OTA such a nice HD picture?
nolander - January 25, 2012
it’s crystal baby, compares quite favorably at least the U-verse’s HD. And the sound is mixed much higher, makes for a richer experience all together
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
I visited a friend of mine a few weeks back and he did the same thing, ditching DirecTV. I had no idea you could get an HD picture over the air.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
That was originally the only way to get it
nolander - January 25, 2012
Vintage erotica?
Nolij - January 25, 2012
what chord did you cut?
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
The diameter would be a good choice.
Nolij - January 25, 2012
Insist on a perpendicular cut into two equal pieces and you can guarantee the usage of a diameter.
David Young - January 25, 2012
the cable chord. I’m trying to make OTA my habit so when I move out I don’t need to buy cable
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
But, Dodgers games
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
soccer games are OTA?
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Univision FTW
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
I have been investing time getting to known the Mexican Premiera Division, I will admit.
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
¡Vomonos Tigres!
Nolij - January 25, 2012
¡Viva Chivas!
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
the money I save not paying a cable bill I could put into a mini plan, plus KCAL (let’s hope), and radio is still an option. Plus, if I do get on with __, I may never have to buy tickets again : )
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
I don't think you understood my question
There are 162 Dodgers games. 162 of them need to be seen. Not saying 100% is always achieved, but the option has to be there.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
I hear what you’re saying, I really do. I’m just, I’m trying to find a balance. When I reach a financial point where I’m just sitting on money, then I’ll revisit
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
I respect the decision to want to cut costs.
There is always the option of only having cable from April through September, and go six months without during the offseason. :)
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
I mean really for me, I’ve noticed once I stopped thinking I needed to see the sitcoms on FX, IFC, BBC America, and Comedy Central I haven’t missed them
ESPN and the RSNs are the reason to get cable, but with ESPN3 streaming it comes down to just RSNs
and emotion divorced, it seems silly to pay for 1000 channels to watch two
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
hulu has you covered anyways
or netflix a year later for bbc america
nolander - January 25, 2012
Yes it does, I was bummed that Obama did not address that last night. It is my number one issue.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
I'll let you know if my proxy stuff works out
then you can just use your computer
nolander - January 25, 2012
You mean if your stealing pans out?
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
its illegal and possibly immoral
but its not stealing
nolander - January 25, 2012
I need to frame this
mleadman - January 25, 2012
yeah I won’t be doing anything against the law. When I was a kid I thought people who stole cable were evil
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
/LisaSimpsoned
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
This reminds of the episode she turns vegitarian
Ivdown - January 25, 2012
it should remind you of the episode where she cut her father’s illegal cable : )
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
My brain doesn't work that way :)
Ivdown - January 25, 2012
I full well plan to pay them for their services
nolander - January 25, 2012
Sounds like what he wants to do
is pay for something like MLB.TV but use a proxy that shows that he is sitting in a non-blackout area.
bhsportsguy - January 25, 2012
I bet Prime Ticket is like “sweet, that’s awesome, go do that!” #not
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
how much was MLB.TV last year for a full year?
nolander - January 25, 2012
nolander - January 25, 2012
yes
because blackout rules are stupid and I hate them, even if they are the things that allow the team to get 3 billion dollars from Fox
nolander - January 25, 2012
Ah, I am totally behind your plan.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Wouldn’t it be easier to simply find a man to take care of you?
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
beat me to the punch
I was looking forward to that call back
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
it’s LA! Where am I gonna meet a man unless I hit him with my car? : )
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
TBLA references the movie Being There unintentionally
all the damn time
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I was going for LA Story, personally
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
Sellers at this best or worst?
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Can I vote neither?
How about his most unique.
I love that movie.
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Yes you may.
I also love that movie
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
its a good barometer – that film
I like to watch
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Nice.
I enjoyed it as well.
David Young - January 25, 2012
You flat all the third and make all the majors minors??
David Young - January 25, 2012
i just assumed she was studying to become a labor and delivery nurse
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
THAT’S NOT A CHORD!
David Young - January 25, 2012
I’d have offered you all some prime rib but by the time I remembered it was all gone
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
We miss the old California Center too. Had a few fun dinners out on that patio. Probably was overprices for what it was, but the atmosphere was totally SoCal.
David Young - January 25, 2012
In 1995
the Mariners turned down a trade that would have sent Tino Martinez and a reliever (Jeff Nelson, Bill Risley, or Bobby Ayala) for Sterling Hitchcock and Jorge Posada.
Soon after, the Mariners sent Tino Martinez, Jeff Nelson, and Jim Mecir for Sterling Hitchcock and Russ Davis.
Ouch
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
ha ha, I do remember the much hyped Russ Davis. For a while after that he was the poster boy for over hyped Yankee prospects that got hoisted onto other teams.
The Mariners at least had Jay Buhner for a while to remind themselves they were not complete idiots.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Jay Buhner one of my favorite players of the 90’s.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
I was a Buhner fan.
Is Jayson Werth a stretch as a comp? Werth is a better fielder, but they remind me of each other. Maybe it’s their swings.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
It’s the goatee
The Stuntmen - January 25, 2012
always thought jay buhner and mark mcgwire had similar swings
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
I’m pretty sure I had Davis on a fantasy team or two.
Those Mariners, damn. That trade, and two years later at the trade deadline…Derek Lowe and Jason Varitek for Heathcliff Solcumb. Just absolute killers.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
Fuck em, they stole A-Rod from us
Michael White - January 25, 2012
Counter point taken and noted. MW prevails.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
The Mariners got theirs in the end, famously becoming The Team That Did the Least with the Most Talent™.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
Mid 90s Indians want in on that action
Michael White - January 25, 2012
and 2011 Philadelphia Phillies
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
You can talk about single-year teams, sure, but I mean over a period of years. The late-oughts Phillies have a WS win and another WS appearance. The late-90s Mariners got to a couple of LCSs and blew it.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
The Indians went to the WS twice in the mid-90s. The Mariners are still looking for their first LCS win.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
Tipping point in your favor
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
someone just gave Gladwell a penny
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Ya, I guess I was defining it as “world series win or bust”
Michael White - January 25, 2012
1995
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
stole seems to not be the case
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Possession is 9/10 of the draft.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
Only in the same way the Dodgers stole home field advantage from the A’s in the 1988 World Series.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
Not that we needed it:)
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Delias Man once told me that the Mariners were a coin flip between Dreifort and Rodriguez. Damn coins!
Michael White - January 25, 2012
The Lakers won a coin flip with the Chicago Bulls for the first pick in 1979.
Whew.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
You believe him? That they would take a college reliever over the best high school SS anyone had ever seen?
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
He’s old enough to remember, I’m not.
So, yes.
Michael White - January 25, 2012
Myth
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
The reality is that ten old fucks were sitting around the table. They started asking about who they should draft in the second round when some young whippersnapper says maybe we should consider taking the Witchita Sate kid and the nine other folk said STFU.
That punk kid then started spreading rumors it was coin flip.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
This article
seems to say that while the Mariners thought about Dreifort, they chose A-Rod.
bhsportsguy - January 25, 2012
Ross Newhan
is a reliable source:
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
So is Tim Kurkjian
from SI:
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
Neither story says anything about a coin flip, just a bunch of men who finally came around to the only possible decision.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
I think it was much closer to a coin flip at the time than you are remembering.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
A coin flip is a coin flip and this was not a coin flip.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Was it a roll of the dice?
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
Did they play Rock Paper Scissors?
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
Did it come down to Eenie Meenie Miney Moe?
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
One Potato Two Potato
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
damn
what was the name of the game with the baseball bat, where you’d toss it to the other guy and go hand over hand until someone topped the bat and they got to be home team?
Bottle cap?
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I’d also love the name of that game.
We did not do it for home team, we did it to see who got to pick first. It was always a sad game for some. In time it came to be known as Humma Time.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
It will come as no surprise to anyone that I was always the last picked.
I got my revenge in fourth grade kickball. The captain of the other team and possessor of a mighty left foot mocked me as he did not pick me. Somehow I was chosen to roll to him. He mocked me again. I rolled it to him real good, his left foot reared back and he shot it directly into my waiting arms. He was out. Then he moved away and I forgot his name.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
Awesoke
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Cue “Wing beneath my wings”
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
That is a stumper, but a great game.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
Trivia Time
Get the upper hand
Meaning
Take a dominant position.
Origin
Various suggestions have been made as to the origin of ‘get the upper hand’ (or ‘take the upper hand’). Prominent amongst those is that the phrase originated in American playgrounds, in the way that children select sides for impromptu baseball games. The method is for one team captain to grab the bat at the bottom, then the other captain takes hold above the first’s hand and they progress hand over hand along the bat until the top is reached – the one left holding the bat having the ‘upper hand’ and getting first choice of player for their team.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
not what we called it
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Out Josied by Gary
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Yeah, no way that was what we called it.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
We called it “wanna choose teams?”
we didn’t have a name for it, we just knew what to do.
jeez, that sounds like a line from a bad romance novel.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
how would you know?
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
sounds cheesy and full of innuendo
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
Just another night at Chez Kavula
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
It was a simpler time.
When Smear the Queer was an acceptable name for a game to say out loud.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
yep
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
man, i hated getting smeared
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
I don’t believe for a minute that that’s where the phrase “get the upper hand” comes from.
Generally speaking, if you have an idiom, there is not a cute story that gets attached to explain that idiom.
I think it’s just a general feeling up “upper” = “stronger.”
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
that explanation is from the Encyclopedia of Word and Phrase origins, but also includes:
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
the Brits can stick it up their arses, its ours, ours, ours, and even if it was theirs its now ours, like their musicians, their language, and their pluck
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I’d see what J.E. Lighter has to say in the Dictionary of American Slang but I don’t have the volume that includes “U.” I only have the first two volumes that Random House published. Did he ever finish that dictionary?
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
I don’t think we ever got volume III, you’re right
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
Random House was supposed to publish the third and final volume in 1997. That didn’t happen.
Then Oxford University Press was supposed to publish volume 3 (P-S) in 2006 (then 2008), but it never happened as far as I can tell.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
Geckos
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
We simply called it “top the bat”.
David Young - January 25, 2012
But what did you call the game for picking teams?
Nolij - January 25, 2012
I recall it as
Rochambeau
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Did it involve Gibson, Eckersley, or Vin?
Ivdown - January 25, 2012
So I have a mini plan. Should I just suck it up and upgrade to season tickets. It seems like with the perks this year it would be worth it. Plus with new access I could just stroll down to the field level every night
The Stuntmen - January 25, 2012
Really depends on your availability to attend the games. If you can make it to 70+ games, I would say go for it.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
mini plan is for 15 games. Season tickets are twice as much. So I would only need to attend 30+ to break even. I have a 3 and a half year old that loves to go, but we like to show up early and he suckers one of the players into giving him a ball every time. Problem is with a mini plan we would get nowhere near the field. With season tickets they would let us in early. Sounds like a no brainer but $500 is still $500
The Stuntmen - January 25, 2012
sell the games you can’t/don’t attend
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
or just find a partr and split them. keepyour 15 games, get all the perks
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
yeah partner backed out. I was going to do this. I just suspect this might be the last time season tickets are affordable
The Stuntmen - January 25, 2012
It will be, you should get the tickets, when they are in last place in Aug you will have no trouble sitting at the field level for every game.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
But it does mean the resale value of the rest of the tickets starts to approach zero.
David Young - January 25, 2012
seems like that would be tough to do, without much demand for tickets to these games, no?
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
Yes
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
still would have to deal with DS’ notorious no seat hopping ushers
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
In the past they are easy, you probably just looked like you did not belong:)
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
you actually have had a problem with this? I have never had a problem as long as I don’t try to sneak into baseline box or something
The Stuntmen - January 25, 2012
well they have the people at the top of the row checking tickets, though I guess you can just walk past them if you’re Conny enough
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
they don’t bother me at all. Of course i have a little kid distraction. Or maybe it was because the ushers were as apathetic as the fans last year
The Stuntmen - January 25, 2012
IF this is true...Holy $hit
underdog - January 25, 2012
We have a clear winner
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
I’ve been wondering why he was not into this party
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
That is a rock solid group, it seems.
OB12 - January 25, 2012
The guy who a few months ago said he didn’t like baseball all that much?
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
yeah, well, the Tigers were definitely not signing Prince Fielder, so.. we know how that goes. ;)
underdog - January 25, 2012
the Tigers GM said they were out on Fielder (and were) until Victor Martinez went down. This guy was asked months ago if he was interested in buying the Dodgers and he basically said “no, I like basketball”.
That said, there’s a lot of ammo in that 3 gauge
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
no the tigers gm said that 6 days ago
victor went down 8 days ago. I think I have the timeline righ there.
nolander - January 25, 2012
two days after he went down they could have still been out
course, i’m likely wrong here.
doesn’t change the fact that he’s being broht in for his money, and if only his money is being invested, all he’s going to care about is his money.
Magic and Kasten I’m behind.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
entirely too much credence is put into what people say in public around here
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Especially since what people say in public is largely scripted by assholes like me.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
for a purpose
only fools and madmen say something in public without a purpose
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
color me a madman
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
sometimes a spade is a spade
most often a spade is a dirty liar
nolander - January 25, 2012
thatsracist.gif
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
or a guy with movies not worth seeing unless they also involve Chris Farley.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
Spade the Owen Wilson of his time
nolander - January 25, 2012
and Dana Carter before him
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
carvey*
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
Just Shoot Me is still one of my favorite shows
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
you don’t need to like baseball to like making money
court168627 - January 25, 2012 via Android app
and like to be the swinging dick in LA
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Probably a billion different things you can do with a billion dollars to make more money then purchase a sports franchise.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
think of the prestige!
its like collecting art, its a rare item.
nolander - January 25, 2012
Yes, as HJ said the big dick in the room has lots of appeal but lets not equate investing a billion dollars as a money making scheme compared to other things he can do with that billion dollars.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
I would argue he won't lose money on it
but I won’t go past that.
nolander - January 25, 2012
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
I endorse this.
OB12 - January 25, 2012
this is michael jordan doing a ballet move
http://www.nba.com/jordan/hoop_mjonmj.html
nolander - January 25, 2012
I could have sworn there is video of the photo shoot of that pose/logo all the way back in Come Fly With Me.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
this?
nolander - January 25, 2012
Boom. Nice find.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
Come Fly With Me is a pretty amazing NBA video, right up there with the 1980s classics Dazzling Dunks and Basketball Bloopers, Superstars, The Drive For Five, Back To Back, and eventually Always Showtime.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
Oh yeah, there was also Awesome Endings.
[insert joke here]
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
There’s more than joke insertion going on.
David Young - January 25, 2012
the more he talks
the less he plays
the less likable he becomes
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Harmon Killebrew insists that it’s actually him.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
Oh, look, now Killebrew is fighting with Jerry West over who it is. Crazy!
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
golf clap
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Everytime I hear Jay
Buhner, I think of this
bhsportsguy - January 25, 2012
Something I didn't know
in 1992, the Clippers were considering a logo change. True story:

Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
The Houston Logo Changes
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
The Houston ®s
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
The Houston Belles
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
nothing wrong with
The Houston Clippers
if the shoe fits
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Houston Whalers
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
Best thing about the Whalers logo
is the negative-space H:
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
and upside-down mustache.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
The Houston 69ers
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Houston 68’ers and I’ll owe her one later
VeroJoe - January 25, 2012
like those test they use to give me
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
E {
when turned sideways.
David Young - January 25, 2012
that looks like 1992
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
heard they were turning the corner then
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
The Houston Corner Turners
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
The Houston Turned Corner
mleadman - January 25, 2012
I imagine the jersey would have looked like the Vancouver Grizzlies
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
No one cares
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
you don’t even find this mildly interesting what if stuff?
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
nope
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
what about the Clippers wearing LA Stars throwbacks this year?
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
nope
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Delias might, but it is coin flip
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
working hard, semi-call back
I see you
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
not interested
delias man - January 25, 2012
it's more interesting than video games or UFC
Pure Azure - January 25, 2012
Did someone say UFC?
fbihop - January 25, 2012
Uh-oh
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
and really
were you even alive to know?
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I would have been seven, so not really. Apparently it was official enough to make it into some style guides, but they scrapped plans before the season started.
Josie Becker - January 25, 2012
How bad would Dwight Howard have kicked the hell out of Jermaine O’Neal last night if shit really broke bad?
VeroJoe - January 25, 2012
Breaking bad will get you 5-10
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
first “throw hands”
now “broke bad”
dude – you are the best
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I’m just the generic version of you HJ
VeroJoe - January 25, 2012
Costs way less, tastes a little worse but still totally worth it.
fbihop - January 25, 2012
plus I’m made with real bits of panther so you know it’s good
VeroJoe - January 25, 2012
I'm not going to lie to you
You smell like pure gasoline
Ivdown - January 25, 2012
VeroJoe is the Miguel Cabrera to HollywoodJoe's Albert Pujols
Ivdown - January 25, 2012
Gamblers
have been using Breaking Bad for decades
mleadman - January 25, 2012
Question on Frank's Parking Lots:
Do you think any of the groups are bidding with the thought that they will be leasing those lots from McCourt?
Seems like part of the communication process right now would include, “OK Frank, what’s your price for those lots?”
latenite - January 25, 2012
The Houston Speculators
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I want to believe that billionaires want the land/lots included and don’t want to be renting them back from Frank.
David Young - January 25, 2012
shit broke bad = throw hand (for Eric)
VeroJoe - January 25, 2012
Appreciated
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
Love ya bro….no homo
VeroJoe - January 25, 2012
on fire
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Houston Hand Throwers
vs
Houston Shit Breakers
who wins?
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
What is the record for errors by an infield? And what are the odds that the 2012 Tigers beat the record?
fbihop - January 25, 2012
I wish Baseball-Reference had a play index for fielding stats.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
The 2010 Nationals made 88 errors in the infield. Just to pick a recent high-error fielding team.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
that team gave us a couple games.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
I doubt they make many errors but an infield of
Fielder / Rabun / Peralta / Miggy might have the smallest range of any team I can remember. This is based on visual and does not include any range metrics in the computation of them comment that was just completed before I started this sentence.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
I know somehow
this would be related to FIP or something like that.
bhsportsguy - January 25, 2012
Based on visual = you seeing how fat Miggy and Fielder are, right?
fbihop - January 25, 2012
Wait until you see who takes the field at the softball tournament.
ishXdavid - January 25, 2012
What position did Jon have you listed at?
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
He has me in RF.
ishXdavid - January 25, 2012
Sounds like our OF is stacked then. :)
You got arm?
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
I used to. I have the ratchet thing going on in my shoulder now. I moved over to 2B in hardball because my throws from SS wouldn’t reach in the later innings. I’m still a rangy outfielder, so if he’s going to keep me in the OF, I’ll see if I could play one of the middle OF positions.
ishXdavid - January 25, 2012
You are going down. And you are going down hard.
delias man - January 25, 2012
You’re a lefty with pop?
ishXdavid - January 25, 2012
i am a righty with slap
in general, i just meant your team
delias man - January 25, 2012
Jeez
Facebook material for their team page
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
HAHA
“Right with slap” … that’s awesome.
Other than Xeifrank, I don’t know anyone else on the DT team. I’m not even sure I can gauge what DT’s demographic is, so I will not be so bold as to rebuke your statement.
ishXdavid - January 25, 2012
Did you have any tokens left over from the team pizza party?
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
David is a solid ballplayer. What he is best at, however, is getting very mad when he pops up. :)
Nolij - January 25, 2012
That happens in like half the at-bats in slow pitch, no? People trying to jack the ball… oops pop up.
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
/snicker
nolander - January 25, 2012
and when he strikes out, from what i remember.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
So this wounded knee business in your title - does it refer to this
Wounded Knee
or this
my mind is reeling
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
yes
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
Eric, how long does it take you to get from home to games, and vice versa? Seems like a long time, love the commitment though.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
He spends the weekends at various TBLA member houses. That is part of the package when you became a member.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
hell yeah!! I’ll have Eric over on a friday, show him how the valley do it baby…. I know you dont smoke weed, I know this, but im gonna get you high today. Its Friday, you got a Free Lance job, and you aint got shit to do!
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
I’m starting to picture you as the crazy guy in hangover
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
I could really see that
Ivdown - January 25, 2012
Or Jeff Spicoli in FT@RH
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
nah, not Jeff Spicoli because I dont get high THAT often. I never do it before work, and he would.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
but you did order pizza while in class
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
How did you get fired on your day off?
VeroJoe - January 25, 2012
Thanks man
It used to take me 90 minutes door to door to an from games, without traffic, but I would bunch up the weekends to do 2-3 games at a time, either staying at my cousin’s apartment or with friends.
I will be moving to Pasadena for the season though.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012 via mobile
The hunt for silverwidow turned really serious apparently.
David Young - January 25, 2012
That's my freelance gig
Mike and Delia’s Man hired me to do the leg work.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012 via mobile
it all makes sense now
nolander - January 25, 2012
Does your cousin read this?
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
He can’t read
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012 via mobile
I will have to hire you now
to work for my company JB Surveillance just so it is legit. We have been in business since 1995.
delias man - January 25, 2012
I knew you were a Dick
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
that took me a second
/oldmansayings
delias man - January 25, 2012
The Houston Shamuses
mleadman - January 25, 2012
You’re going to keep doing this, aren’t you?
iiidown - January 25, 2012
The Houston Questioners
mleadman - January 25, 2012
Manager: Frank Gorshin
House Band: ? and the Mysterians
You may say, “But baseball teams don’t have a house band.”
I answer, “They do now.”
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
They need Hu.
Nolij - January 25, 2012
1B: Who?
2B: What?
…
David Young - January 25, 2012
Out of position, but
1B – Chin-Lung Hu
2B – Eddie Watt
SS – Juan Castro (because I don’t give a darn)
3B – Dick (I) Dono-van
Nolij - January 25, 2012
The Houston Shylocks
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
The Houston Pounds of Flesh
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
All the FBI knows of JB Surveillance is an empty office suite in Chino with one single working phone line, and no copper wires in the entire building.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012 via mobile
lol
VeroJoe - January 25, 2012
Is the side project to find Tommy Blackjack
I believe some torture with Dr Pepper is on the docket.
Ivdown - January 25, 2012
Pasadena? Nice. You can bunk up with Bob T and his newish bride. Bob likes cats though.
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
if she’s newish, then she likely has a fat cousin
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
groan
and rec’d.
David Young - January 25, 2012
I thought they took up connubial residence elsewhere.
David Young - January 25, 2012
But Eric can babysit for robotmadeofnails now.
David Young - January 25, 2012
welcome back to civilization
nolander - January 25, 2012
Curious
Is $8 a stiff price for a pastrami by itself?
silverwidow - January 25, 2012
Not if it is a good one. Heck, Subway charged me almost that much and their sandwich was barely edible due to all the fat in the meat. /NeverAgain
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
Langers – $12.95
Canters – $11.75
The Hat – $7.79
Johnnies Pastrami – $10.50
Marios (Glendale) – $6.95
bhsportsguy - January 25, 2012
worth it
nolander - January 25, 2012
The hat is good, only one I know of is in Simi Valley. Next time I go I must try that huge ass plate of chili cheese fries someone posted here the other day.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
gravy fries are good too
I magically ended up living just down the street from the only one within an hours drive of me
nolander - January 25, 2012
Wet Fries are the greatest!
iiidown - January 25, 2012
No
mleadman - January 25, 2012
Impressive
My Pastrami Pizza at Uncle Ernie’s was 8.16 with tax
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Lucky Boy
also sells a pretty good pastrami sandwich for $7.05 (BTW, never knew that so many places now have websites and menus posted).
bhsportsguy - January 25, 2012
It is well documented that taller people are happier and make more money then shorter people but we do have some advantages
Probably because they make us sit in kid seats now.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
We may be poor and depressed but at least we get more time on earth to be poor and depressed.
fbihop - January 25, 2012
WIN WIN
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Ah, that’s what that movie was about.
fbihop - January 25, 2012
The only loser in that movie was the tall guy:)
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
yeah, Thats because you guys sit in a car seat, duh!!
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
oops, you said that already, duh me.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
Yeah, duh you
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
All you have to do is make a pact with the devil. It worked for Tom Cruise…he’s not exactly tall.
Pure Azure - January 25, 2012 via Android app
I never knew people in shows and movies were short as fuck for the longest time… Id say thats the biggest advantage… no wonder I cant get no role.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
I'm 5' 9"
and I towered over Paul Newman when I stood next to him
mleadman - January 25, 2012
Marky Mark is 5'7'' as well
He’s doin alright
Ivdown - January 25, 2012
Did you know that Mark Walberg was an original member of the New Kids on the Block but then quit the group before they hit it big because of their bubble gum pop image?
Now you know…and knowing is half the battle
VeroJoe - January 25, 2012
ofcourse I know… wasnt his bro in that group too?? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, just hangin’ tough
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
You’ve got the right stuff Chris
VeroJoe - January 25, 2012
It makes sense since his brother Donny was in the band
I knew Mark was an underwear model thanks to I Love The 90s, lol
Ivdown - January 25, 2012
tall people can see the train coming
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
So is Miggy going to 3B
I saw some stuff about it, but I wasn’t sure what the verdict was.
Ivdown - January 25, 2012
Likely will get a look
in spring training. But even he does play 3B, I can’t believe it will be “that” much. Inge probably still starts half the games there, no?
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
he can play 1st when fielder dh's
and dh when they went to get inge in there I guess
nolander - January 25, 2012
Right
Three main scenarios
1. 1B-Fielder, 3B-Cabrera, DH-Someone
2. 1B-Fielder, 3B-Inge, DH-Cabrera
3. 1B-Cabrera, 3B-Inge, DH-Fielder
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
I guess after watching Boom Boom play 3rd the idea of Miggy playing 3rd does not hurt as much
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
I'm not sure Inge gets half the games though
maybe a 1/4, possibly more. Maybe Leyland can get them to be happy about DHing a lot though.
nolander - January 25, 2012
Is Inge still a good fielder?
nolander - January 25, 2012
It is all he has
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
yeah he can't hit anything anymore
was he ever a good CF? What an athlete he must have been(and I guess still is) before those back injuries.
nolander - January 25, 2012
Inge
will definitely play 3B when Fister pitches and anybody else with heavy groundball tendancies.
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
If he gets -- ahem -- cut
Will he be the Angry Inge?
Thank you, I’ll take my answer off the air.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
POW!
iiidown - January 25, 2012
I’ll send the answer by my owl.
Nolij - January 25, 2012
The Houston Hooters
mleadman - January 25, 2012
That movie
nevermind
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Saw the show off-off-Broadway before it was a movie. Had no idea what to expect. Thought it was great. Still listen to the cast recording sometimes.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
Find out Google’s prediction on your age and gender as well as what interests you have! Based on search activity, I believe.
It gets me well, says I’m a 25-34 year old male. Though it says one of my interests is cats which is, well, not even close to true.
fbihop - January 25, 2012
Link doesn’t work for me. Looks like a link to an ad that fails to load.
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
no interest categories for me
nolander - January 25, 2012
I’m guessing my firewall probably makes every search from my plant site look like one user.
David Young - January 25, 2012
and they all like porn and hooker sites
mleadman - January 25, 2012
Just the (plethora of) vice presidents.
David Young - January 25, 2012
oh yeah once I leave incognito mode
I get different stuff. Apparently I’m into accounting and auditing. Must be tax season.
nolander - January 25, 2012
According to them I am also a 25 – 34 year old male
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
me too!
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I am Spartacus!
kinbote - January 25, 2012
Google has me pegged
Seattle – Tacoma came up because I read Dan Savage’s blog at The Stranger a lot.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
Mine's pretty close
Arts & Entertainment
Arts & Entertainment – TV & Video – TV Shows & Programs
Computers & Electronics – Consumer Electronics – Game Systems & Consoles – Sony PlayStation
Food & Drink – Cooking & Recipes
Food & Drink – Cooking & Recipes – World Cuisines – Asian Cuisine
Games – Computer & Video Games
News – Politics
Sports – Team Sports – Baseball
Travel – Cruises & Charters
World Localities – North America – USA – California – Southern California – Los Angeles
They think I like Cruises because I was searching for the tipped over boat
mleadman - January 25, 2012
I guess I should post mine.
The comics one is because I read a lot of webcomics. I have no explanation for the cat one, other than I linked to this story once.
fbihop - January 25, 2012
Eric's
Pets & Animals – Pets – Cats – Beheading
Pets & Animals – Pets – Cats – Death
Pets & Animals – Pets – Cats – Murder
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
nolander - January 25, 2012
It didn’t list
?David Young - January 25, 2012
I haven't finished digging it yet
nolander - January 25, 2012
Says 18-24 Male then these incredibly correct categories
Ivdown - January 25, 2012
David Young - January 25, 2012
Better than:
Porn — Cosplay — Furry
Nolij - January 25, 2012
Oye
You screw one sheep…
Ivdown - January 25, 2012
I was not impressed with the two contestants last night on Baseball IQ. I think I could have done better, and I’m not exactly a baseball trivia whiz. These guys were statistical analysts for the Mets and Philles!
I mean, they couldn’t even name the top SF Giants in terms of games played other than the obvious ones (McCovey, Mays, Bonds) since the Giants moved west?
How many here can name 7 of the top 20, say, Baltimore Orioles in games played since 1960?
Pure Azure - January 25, 2012
that one guy
nolander - January 25, 2012
good, keep going
Pure Azure - January 25, 2012
Brooks
Blair
Buford
Ripkin
Powell
For my quick five
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Aparichio
Belanger
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Murray
mleadman - January 25, 2012
sounds good
I was talking to the TV last night. Speier! Aurilia! Will F’ing Clark!
Pure Azure - January 25, 2012
I was just going to say “They were Orioles” when I realized you were back to the Giants
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Probably easier for Dodger fans to do the Giants than anyone other then Giant fans
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Understandably
That was why I threw out the Orioles here for Dodger fans. I’m thinking if you follow baseball like us, much less WORK in baseball as an ANALYST, it wouldn’t be too hard. Maybe they just froze under the hot lights.
Pure Azure - January 25, 2012
One ex Dodger on the Oriole list I would not have expected
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Rick Dempsey?
VeroJoe - January 25, 2012
Dempsey is on it but Mike Devereaux was the surprise to me
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
I’m disappointed I did not think of Rafy, Singleton, and Anderson. Those should have been gimmies.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
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meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Devereaux didn’t come to my mind Phil, but I swear I knew he was a Dodger because of a card of his I had way back in the day. Does anyone remember the baseball board game called “Classic” it came with a ton of baseball cards. That’s how I I new Devereaux played for our Dodgers.
VeroJoe - January 25, 2012
I had those cards, and never considered playing the game that they were for.
Nolij - January 25, 2012
Dodger fans couldn’t even name all of the players who had played 10 friggin’ years for the team since they moved west.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
I thought you all did pretty good
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Uh-oh
trivia chat in …. three…… two…… one……..
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
Baseball trivia isn't acceptable to you either?
WTF?
Michael White - January 25, 2012
Where did I say that it was not
acceptable? WTMF?
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
maybe Uh-Oh?
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
srsly
nolander - January 25, 2012
it was just
a fucking joke. Too fucking sensitive. LOL
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
You have a history of complaining not of being funny
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Take it to the dog sledding thread!
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
shit broke bad :)
VeroJoe - January 25, 2012
Doug DeCinces
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
Bobby Grich
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Al Bumbry
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
Sorry
for the cussing and if that came off harsh guys. Was channelling my inner Luther Campbell.
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
fuck you you fucking fuck no fucking cussing is allowed on this fucking blog.
nolander - January 25, 2012
The first rule of TBLA is there is no fucking rule one.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
heavy petting is ok though
right?
nolander - January 25, 2012
that’s a BAD TOUCH Nolander!
VeroJoe - January 25, 2012
The first rule of TBLA is
Fuck You
mleadman - January 25, 2012
I guess the change in my pocket wasn’t enough
VeroJoe - January 25, 2012
hahaha love it… you’re one cool dude Marty, all 5 feet 7 inches on you.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
*of you
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
Almost had to send you back Dodger Thoughts school for some reprogramming
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
better than watches
Pure Azure - January 25, 2012
nobody answering Koufax in the Perfect game question
killed me
delias man - January 25, 2012
they answered Mike Witt though!
Pure Azure - January 25, 2012
@tvsportsratings:
fbihop - January 25, 2012
Bill Bellicheck used to have a soul
http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/23/cooking-with-bill-belichick/
nolander - January 25, 2012
Does anyone know
if you can buy episodes of the NFLs SoundFX show on DVD or blu ray? Man I woudl pay a lot of money for some of the footage they have
nolander - January 25, 2012
Nope
it appears they just archive stuff on their site that you can watch for free
bhsportsguy - January 25, 2012
I hate their video player and commercials though
alas! They should take all their good clips of ref player interactions and put them in one place. Love that stuff.
nolander - January 25, 2012
Chuck Pagano is the new coach of the Colts
goodbye cover 2, I’m going to miss their run defense being a joke.
nolander - January 25, 2012
defense is now king
delias man - January 25, 2012
Kinda wish Raiders got this guy.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
Have a great night everyone!
Houston Clap (FTMFW)
VeroJoe - January 25, 2012
Houston 5-clap
clap clap, clap clap clap
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012 via mobile
The Houston Chancres
mleadman - January 25, 2012
Anyone - first Dodger question
Los Angeles Dodgers @Dodgers
bhsportsguy - January 25, 2012
Jerry Ruess
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
no idea
guesses Orel Hershiser.
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
I'm gonna say
Kaz Ishii. Why not?
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
key words omission
Los Angeles
bhsportsguy - January 25, 2012
Why not?
Because it’s Kaz fucking Ishii, that’s why not
mleadman - January 25, 2012
ha ha
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Are we going back before LA?
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Yes, it wasnt an LA Dodger.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
oh, it was an LA Dodger?
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
Sal Maglie
Don Newcombe
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Johnny Podres
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Dazzy Vance
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Vic Lombardi
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Van Lingle Mungo
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
Bingo
that is correct.
bhsportsguy - January 25, 2012
I saw your comment
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Crap. I was really hoping for Van Lingle Mungo.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
For this one, yes
I would imagine for the contest on TV, probably but they have 50+ years to cover so maybe not.
bhsportsguy - January 25, 2012
The answer
is Brooklyn’s Vic Lombardi in 1946, he went 5-0 against the New York Giants.
bhsportsguy - January 25, 2012
lol how come all trivia is always way before my time?? I cant wait til im 60-70 years old so I can play.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
Because if he asked questions about last year everyone would get it.
fbihop - January 25, 2012
Who won the Cy Young last year?
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Ooh, ooh, I know this one. Van Lingle Mungo?
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
Which Dodger hunts heaters?
fbihop - January 25, 2012
Shit, which one doesn’t?
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
Alternate answer:
Amen, Sailor!
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
haha I never said it had to be last year… could be 80s stuff though, even 90s
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
What Dodger threw a no – hitter at Coors
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Nomo BAM! See, that was FUN! haha Yeah I should know more trivia I guess.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
I’m your age and I love this stuff. Eric too. I mean Eric is your age and loves this stuff. Not that I love Eric. Even though I do, not that there’s anything wrong with that. Erm, check please?
Nolij - January 25, 2012
How many total bases did Shawn Green have in his four home run game against the Brewers?
Ivdown - January 25, 2012
I dont know this actually. 18?
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
19.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
6 6 6 7
kinbote - January 25, 2012
4 HR, 1 2B, 1 1B
Nolij - January 25, 2012
What Dodger pitcher had one of the best names in baseball history?
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
Van Lingle Mungo?
Ivdown - January 25, 2012
Wheezer Dell:)
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
I always liked Luke Prokopec, even if it isn’t VLM-level
Nolij - January 25, 2012
Kaiser Wilhelm
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Doug McWeeny
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
When Steve Finley hit that GS vs the Giants to clinch the NL west in 04, what 3 Dodgers were on base??
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
Derek Lowe was at second base with Carolyn Hughes.
Nolij - January 25, 2012
haha, probably right…… I liked Lindsey Soto better though.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
What happened to her?
ishXdavid - January 25, 2012
werth izturis and the pinch hitter
delias man - January 25, 2012
Sloppy Thurston
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
The final Dodgers.com question
Which two players (one inducted as a Giant, the other as a Dodger) played their last games for the other club.
bhsportsguy - January 25, 2012
Snider
Marichal
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
I believe
that is correct
bhsportsguy - January 25, 2012
Technically
you could accept Hoyt Wilhelm too because his HOF plaque shows him wearing a NY Giants cap, he retired in 1972 as a Dodger.
bhsportsguy - January 25, 2012
Juan Marichal, Duke Snider.
Nolij - January 25, 2012
Jackie Robinson says, “Not me!”
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
I’ll rec that.
fbihop - January 25, 2012
Van Lingle Mungo
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
Who was born and died in Pageland, South Carolina
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Quote of the day
Ivdown - January 25, 2012
Okay
name the last 8 Dodger Rookie of the Years and list the year they won the award, will only accept answers with all 8 listed go.
bhsportsguy - January 25, 2012
96 Hollandsworth
95 Nomo
94 Mondesi
93 Piazza
92 Karros
82 Sax
81 Valenzuela
80 Howe
Nolij - January 25, 2012
Lightening
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
well done
actually forgot there were 5 in the 90s. So I was thinking of 1979 with Sutcliffe.
bhsportsguy - January 25, 2012
I almost put him as a bonus :)
Nolij - January 25, 2012
That sounds like work.
kinbote - January 25, 2012
1965 Frenchy
1969 Sizemore
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
How in the hell did Lefebvre win over Joe Morgan that year?
David Young - January 25, 2012
Not enough cowbell.
Nolij - January 25, 2012
Also, RBIs, Pennants.
Nolij - January 25, 2012
I thought about RBIs, but Joe scored 100 runs!
David Young - January 25, 2012
Joe was short
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Yes.
David Young - January 25, 2012
Plashcke
had a column today begging for a Kershaw extension. Finally something that makes sense.
silverwidow - January 25, 2012
Never forget
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
That’s not fair we have all said stupid things. The problem with Plashke is two fold
He says ALOT of stupid things
His quest to smear Depodesta
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Also, he says a lot of stupid things in one-sentence paragraphs.
That’s not Plaschke’s worst offense, actually. That was the Sasha Cohen column, which was simply horrible. But I hated this one.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
Might be the worst ending in journalist history:
kinbote - January 25, 2012
um, screw that
that gets you shot
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
In my island nation, he would have been tarred and feathered for that Cohen column
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Picturing you as Fat Brando right now.
kinbote - January 25, 2012
and he gets to do it from very visible platforms.
David Young - January 25, 2012
Cespedes officially a FA
and Jim Bowden says the likely players are…
1. Cubs 2. Marlins 3. Orioles 4. White Sox
75% chance he won’t have a chance to make the playoffs in 2012.
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
Saw Xeifrank on Yahoo
On the Yahoo Baidu Message Board. Was that you? Too bad about what they were saying about you… Just kidding..
Dodgers1981 - January 25, 2012
no tengo le menor idea.
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
That’s scary that there are two of you
Dodgers1981 - January 25, 2012
Cespedes is a Top 30 prospect and Zach Lee is our #1 prospect. How much do you think Zach Lee would get as a free agent if he were one today? Same question for Bryce Harper who is likely #1 overall?
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
Harper 6/90
Lee 5/10
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Being 19 years old I think Lee would get more than that. If anything he’d get a simlar contract to Longoria, perhaps without the options.
Ivdown - January 25, 2012
Lee gets 2 years at 5mil. why risk 5 years of contract on someone who can’t get out Lo-A hitters? If you’re talking free agent contracts, you are expecting them to step in now, and that simply isn’t the case yet with Lee. Harper could easily get a 10 year deal.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
I think Harper would only want a 5 year deal. It sets him up nicely for the bigger pay day in his prime while giving him a serious check for the next six years.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Harper might be one of the very select handful of guys (Lincecum, Howard being the others) who have arbitration help them out.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
So… Cespedes splits the difference? 6/50 ish?
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
Have to remember Charley Finley here
A lot of these FA values are inflated because these are very unique, major league ready or nearly major league ready players and the supply of them is very limited.
If Lee were a free agent, he would get a lot if he was the only pitcher like him available. But if there were say 10 or 15 19-20 year old pitchers with similar pedigrees the prices would go down.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
Baseball America A's Top 10
Cahill and Gio got them 50 percent of this list.
silverwidow - January 25, 2012
The A’s top six prospects’ names are all English words:
Parker, Peacock, Gray, Cole, Choice, Green.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
Colorless green ideas sleep furiously.
kinbote - January 25, 2012
Yeah, well, just wait until the baby comes. They’ll be up all night.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
Hootie and the Blowfish
I had no idea they ripped off Bob Dylan during “Only Want to Be With You”
silverwidow - January 25, 2012
If you cite Dylan, is it really a rip off?
Case in point: Sam Fuller and Jean-Luc Godard are at the Cannes Film Festival. Fuller is drinking and drinking and drinking and he’s finally had enough and he goes up to Godard and says, “You French frog fuck, all you’ve done is rip me off your entire career.”
Godard says, “Een Eenglish, ‘reep off.’ En Francais, homage.”
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
edgar wright really wants to know the answer to this
nolander - January 25, 2012
Blatant thievery!
silverwidow - January 25, 2012
If we consider Bootie and the Hoefish music,
it’s called a musical allusion. Been done for centuries.
kinbote - January 25, 2012
I have no problem calling Hootie and the Blowfish music
It’s totally non-substantive, and it pretty much sounds like four dudes just having some fun, but it also has no pretensions about being anything more than that.
Besides, Stephen Stills sang backups on “Hold My Hand”. Who am I to argue with Stephen Stills.
David Young - January 25, 2012
For what it’s worth, that was the first album I ever bought with my own money.
Nolij - January 25, 2012
I do still enjoy Cracked Rear View.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
I’ve never heard it, apart from the radio singles. I did inordinately like that one Counting Crows album with Mr. Jones on it tho . . .
kinbote - January 25, 2012
My roommate freshman year played that album and the Gin Blossoms album all the time, since they were the only two he owned. I hate Counting Crows now.
Nolij - January 25, 2012
Same here. Guilty as charged.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
who didn’t?
Hell, I used to listen to Offspring so loud on the way to go surfing that I still hate myself for it
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Me.
Also, you’ve gotta keep younger Joe and current Joe separated.
Nolij - January 25, 2012
Give it to him baby!
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
It’s a bad habit.
Nolij - January 25, 2012
I am large, I contain multitudes
there was also a period where I was convinced that surfing was the sporting manifestation of Jazz and would only listen to Parker, and Davis, and Baker, and Coltrane, and Monk on the way to the beach
and always Hendrix, and Lou Reed, and phase of way too much Clapton
and a fair amount of KUSC after getting out the water
but yeah, the offspring, a mistake. Just got me so damn pumped, would be bouncing in the car, loved the violence surging in my arms, felt like I was going to explode.
I surfed best on Jazz I think, but I got more waves on bad loud music
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
whatevs
The Offspring have some great songs. They have some terrible songs, but they also have some great ones.
nolander - January 25, 2012
I liked No Doubt too
Forgot about that
and still listen to Beck on airplanes. For me, Beck was made for traveling
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
No Doubt, Offspring. Are you sure you’re not from the OC?
Nolij - January 25, 2012
I hate
No Doubt. I love Beck. Wilco is the best band in the world IMO
mleadman - January 25, 2012
Beck sucks
nolander - January 25, 2012
With only that much to go on (Marty: I love Beck, nolander: Beck sucks), I would choose to listen to Beck.
David Young - January 25, 2012
I didn't know you where pretentious
nolander - January 25, 2012
Very much so, but I don’t know how you conclude that from my saying that with the lack of any evidence I would always choose Marty’s musical preference over yours.
David Young - January 25, 2012
Last Jeff Beck
concert I went to, I wondered out loud
how many people were here to see Beck.
jim hitchcock (railway) - January 25, 2012
ha ha
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
More than thought they were seeing Jeff Buckley?
Nolij - January 25, 2012
There were a lot of people looking sheepish, but nobody spoke up.
jim hitchcock (railway) - January 25, 2012
awesoke
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
I still want to know if Beck ripped off Them.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
What I got — Nothin’.
Nolij - January 25, 2012
say it again!
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
Yes, but I think they acknowledge it
it was done as an homage
nolander - January 25, 2012
Is
Beck a he or a they? I thought it was one dude.
David Young - January 25, 2012
he is the frontman I guess
I don’t know if any of the other members are static or just dudes he hires for albums and touring ala NIN
nolander - January 25, 2012
He plays all the instruments on the album, I believe. I think Reznor does the same thing.
Could be wrong, though.
fbihop - January 25, 2012
from the wiki
nolander - January 25, 2012
Like he was the first. Stevie Wonder put out a few phenomenal records in the 1970s where he used very few other musicians. McCartney’s first solo record (a mixed bag) was entirely himself.
David Young - January 25, 2012
that doesn't mean he was inspired by them
if he heard tha tprince did it and said “wow that sounds great!” It means he was inspired by Prince and in no way is a slight to anyone else.
nolander - January 25, 2012
Nicely done.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
“Buffalo Springfield” or “Cracked Rear View”
David Young - January 25, 2012
Sit down Clancy
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Nice Springfield reference
mleadman - January 25, 2012
My bad.
kinbote - January 25, 2012
Dylan
and Hootie and the Blowfish reached settlement regarding the unauthorized use of lyrics from Tangled Up in Blue in 1995.
bhsportsguy - January 25, 2012
oh
There must’ve been more than just that one line.
kinbote - January 25, 2012
Link.
fbihop - January 25, 2012
Glad this is settled. Now is Mark Ellis really batting #2 for us or will D2X go outside the box and bat Loney there?
kinbote - January 25, 2012
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
Laughing so hard that I can’t breathe.
iiidown - January 25, 2012
More famously
George Harrison had to pay over $500K for his recording of “My Sweet Lord” sounding too similar to the Chiffons’ “He’s So Fine”
Other artists who have paid settlements for sound alike songs include:
The Doors, Led Zeppelin, Steely Dan and Janet Jackson.
bhsportsguy - January 25, 2012
I knew about all of those except Steely Dan.
David Young - January 25, 2012
Led Zeppelin was very good at taking old blues music and not crediting the blues musicians.
fbihop - January 25, 2012
Like the Yardbirds:)
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
De La Soul and the Turtles had a beef.
kinbote - January 25, 2012
Q Tip straight up iced Mark Volman to end that beef.
fbihop - January 25, 2012
Did Vanilla Ice ever have to pay David Bowie?
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
I fucking love David Bowie
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
ditto
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
his genius is impressive
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I could listen to Rebel, Rebel all day long.
Another karaoke number?
David Young - January 25, 2012
You should sing Young Americans
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
Only bowie I have on my ipod is Changes, Under Pressure (under Queen) and Young Americans. That’s not to say it’s the only Bowie I like.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
I like the line “just you and your idol singing falsetto”.
David Young - January 25, 2012
Suffragette City
fbihop - January 25, 2012
Reg did this at karaoke.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
Really, he just moved up a notch
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Musta been the night I missed out on.
David Young - January 25, 2012
“Panic in Detroit” is my fave.
iiidown - January 25, 2012
Tebowing kills me
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Yes, and, I believe, give him credit on the song.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
and Suge Knight
After Suge held Vanilla over the balcony.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
i refuse to beleive that story
delias man - January 25, 2012
I heard he flipped a coin with his right hand while holding him with his left hand to decide his fate
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
i heard it was never really a coin flip, and that there was only one real choice.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
and told him to “call it, friendo”?
David Young - January 25, 2012
“What’s the most you ever bet on a coin toss?”
kinbote - January 25, 2012
I thought he sad lost not bet
nolander - January 25, 2012
You’re probably right. I do know he said the other guy had everything to gain.
kinbote - January 25, 2012
The unwrapping plastic is the kicker in that scene. Also, “You don’t know what you’re talking about, do you?”
kinbote - January 25, 2012
It was Queen featuring David Bowie.
Nolij - January 25, 2012
Well yeah
but, so?
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
All five lads share the songwriting credit.
David Young - January 25, 2012
I like “My Sweet Lord”
I don’t have it like that, but I am glad he does
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
wah wah
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
I don’t need no wah wah
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
Didn’t know you guys spoke Peanuts adult
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I think that is one of the most well produced songs of all time. Just love the way it is put together. Phil Spector may be a nut job that murdered a woman, but he did know how to produce a pop record.
David Young - January 25, 2012
which should get him a pass
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
because is unique but purty women in Hollywood are a dime a dozen
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Just kidding
/uscchris
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
One could argue it is homage and quoting more than rip off.
David Young - January 25, 2012
The whole damn verse uses Dylan lyrics (including some from Idiot Wind – “Said I shot a man named Grey, took his wife to Italy…”) and even named Dylan in the song.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
I just heard that song (Idiot Wind) was about the media. I always thought it was about an ex-girlfriend.
kinbote - January 25, 2012
I thought it was about a french fart my way
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
It’s about Bill Plaschke on Around the Horn.
David Young - January 25, 2012
easy fix
don’t listen to Hootie
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I forgot all about them… are they still around, making new songs?
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
Only Hootie is left and he is forced to make commercials for Burger King as penance for his previous career lowlights.
fbihop - January 25, 2012
I wonder if Hootie has ever seen the movie 24 Hour Party People, and if he has, when Steve Coogan says in that movie, “My epitaph will be, ‘He never sold out.’ I protected myself from ever having to sell out by having nothing to sell,” I wonder if Hootie thought, “Yeah, I’m going to do the exact opposite of that guy.”
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
Lifetime supply of Tendercrisp Bacon Cheddar Ranch, though.
fbihop - January 25, 2012
Hootie is now a huge Country Star
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
And the country music industry is beside itself with joy. They’ve been looking for an African-American star forever.
Nolij - January 25, 2012
Was Charlie Pride that long ago to be called forever?
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
old dude comment
and yes
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Probably been a good 30-35 years since his heyday.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
close to forever for me
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I was thinking up to the mid-70s.
I also remember him being a baseball guy, which is cool.
David Young - January 25, 2012
Ex-Professional Baseball Player
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Wiki
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
God bless Baseball-Reference, for at least having 7 innings and parts of other two years chronicled.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
With a nickname of Turkey!
David Young - January 25, 2012
Houston Turkeys!
iiidown - January 25, 2012
Charley is months shy of being the same age as my mother.
David Young - January 25, 2012
I didn’t realize he was still alive.
My mom loved him, and his Christmas album was a staple at the Stephen Compound growing up.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
B-R has him as a year older than my mom. Discrepancy!
David Young - January 25, 2012
Because once you go black….
David Young - January 25, 2012
Come on, he doesn’t weight THAT much.
fbihop - January 25, 2012
Pretty sure Darius Rucker has said, “I’m not Hootie”, it’s just a band name. BUT WTF DO THEY EXPECT? YOU NAME A BAND “X AND THE Y”, THE FRONT MAN IS X!
David Young - January 25, 2012
Blondie nods her head ;)
kinbote - January 25, 2012
Alice Cooper and Marilyn Manson would say you don’t even need an “and the.”
Nolij - January 25, 2012
Did you ever hear Alice Cooper interviewed on Fresh Air? It was amazing. The guy gave a completely laid-back, unpretentious interview.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
This is for you to listen to once School’s Out
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
My dad loves his syndicated radio show.
fbihop - January 25, 2012
No more Mr. Not-Nice Guy, I guess
Nolij - January 25, 2012
I’m gonna sing that at karaoke one night.
David Young - January 25, 2012
I dig that the guy is a total golf nerd
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Has like a 4 handicap or something, right?
fbihop - January 25, 2012
I don’t know his exact handicap, but it is reportedly very low.
David Young - January 25, 2012
he now co-owns a restaurant in Arizona (?) with Randy Johnson. They sell a 2 foot hot dog called “The Big Unit”. When you order the Big Unit, sirens and lights go off and the waitress who brings it to you carries it to your table shouting BIG UNIT, BIG UNIT.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
Adam Richman told me so.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
FTFY
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
This sounds like a Simpsons episode
mleadman - January 25, 2012
Million dollar birthday fries!!
Tommy Blackjack - January 25, 2012 via iPhone app
Called Cooperstown, right? Heard that Cooper eats there often and is nice to people who approach him.
fbihop - January 25, 2012
Yep.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
Phoenix
their web site. The real question is, it is worth a visit during Spring Training?
Probably yes for those lucky fuckers who will be there for six weeks.
David Young - January 25, 2012
I found a place to stay like 12 miles from CBR too. Very central.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
Spring Training party at Eric’s!
David Young - January 25, 2012
You need an electric bike:)
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
It was on an episode of No Reservations (streaming on NetFlix. Episode is called US Southwest). Place looks bitchin. It’s a sports grill to the sports grilliest.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
Sounds like a plan.
David Young - January 25, 2012
I saw Hootie at Stagecoach last year. He was good.
ishXdavid - January 25, 2012
Like his voice, thought he could enunciate better (at least in the Hootie heyday). But not over-enunciate like that guy in Creed.
David Young - January 25, 2012
I always thought the start of the song sounds like the intro to “No Sugar Tonight” by Guess Who.
David Young - January 25, 2012
I always thought that the start of Beck’s “Devil’s Haircut” sounds like Them’s “I Can Only Give You Everything” with a key change.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
Luckily Bob Seger could not sue himself for using the same chords over and over
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
John Fogerty was actually sued, accused of ripping himself off.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
I think he won that case? (He was sued by the owner of the publishing rights to the CCR material, which was Saul Zaentz or his successors.)
Fogarty did some playing on the stand to demonstrate something or other. Now that would be cool jury duty.
David Young - January 25, 2012
That said, “The Old Man Down the Road” sure sounds a bit like “Run Through the Jungle”, which in turn does sound like a reworked “Green River”.
David Young - January 25, 2012
He was not able to argue that it is impossible to rip oneself off.
He took the stand with his guitar to show that “Old Man Down the Road” and “Run Through the Jungle” were constructed in a completely different manner.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
Zaentz also sued Fogarty for defamation or slander or libel or something for the song “Zanz Kant Danz”, claiming it was clearly about him. Later editions of the album change the title (and maybe altered the vocal) to “Vanz Kant Danz”. I believe my brother still has the vinyl in original form. (He also bought the Lynryd Skynyrd “Street Survivors” album with the band in flames on the cover before the plane crash.)
David Young - January 25, 2012
According to this Fogerty won and eventually was even awarded attorney’s fees after the Supreme Court got involved on that issue.
David Young - January 25, 2012
Also on Google Scholar.
David Young - January 25, 2012
I think that is called “diddling yourself”
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
the original nickleback?
nolander - January 25, 2012
David Young - January 25, 2012
Earache my eye! How would you like a butt-ache?
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
So Sick, Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle might be doing a comedy tour together. Hope it happens.
uschris0304 - January 25, 2012
Rock is not funny... his jokes just SOUND funny
they way he says them.
delias man - January 25, 2012
Disagree.
fbihop - January 25, 2012
I didn’t know that “So Sick” was a thing.
Nolij - January 25, 2012
So Sick, I have dysentery.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
/grandpa quotes
fbihop - January 25, 2012
Once again with no numbers nor explanation
Forbes announced their list of the NBA Franchises worth the most money:
Lakers are No. 1 at $900M
Clippers are No. 20 at $324M
bhsportsguy - January 25, 2012
Looks like the Lakers have turned the corner.
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
I think DTD payed something like 12 Million
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Jerry Buss paid $67.5M for the Lakers, AND the Kings, AND the Forum (which I assumed included the parking lots), and a ranch.
David Young - January 25, 2012
Best Bargain I ever had
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
George Steinbrenner. $30million.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
I never saw George with a bevy of young skirts though.
David Young - January 25, 2012
Strangest thing – sorry for the long story. We had seats at the forum and we all knew where Jerry and the skirts were. He would send his people around and they invite the purty young things upto his area for fun dining and what not. We had a couple who knew this and we used to laugh about it. One game they brought their daughter who was home from college to the game. She got invited up and went. They were all excited that Jerry Buss had asked for their daughter! It was so strange, they knew the old fuck was going to fuck her that night and yet the idea that Jerry Buss was going to do the fucking was okay.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
gross and disturbing
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
maybe they just thought she would hang and then slip out
before he slipped her the check
nolander - January 25, 2012
nobody rides for free
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I imagine Jerry invited up more than left with him. He was old then and older now, he can’t fuck ’em all.
David Young - January 25, 2012
The hell he can’t.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
I am sure Jerry shared with his friends, doesn’t seem like the kind of guy to bogart all the ass
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I thought he paid something like $10 million
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
Touche
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Steinbrenner
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
Is there always weird stuff about the parking??
David Young - January 25, 2012
Worst band that you will cop to listening to
We all know Eric’s, that chick band that he loves. What was yours?
and it has to be past the age of 13. Like I listened to shit in the late 70’s that I will not be held accountable for…
go!
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
the late 90s boy bands are in my ipod.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
good charlotte
nolander - January 25, 2012
I was into simple plan for about... a week
nolander - January 25, 2012
limp bizkit
nolander - January 25, 2012
Their version of Faith is awesome.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
I still like some of their older older older stuff
They just went tooo… hip hop pop
nolander - January 25, 2012
The best cover of Faith is by a British band called The Boy Least Likely To:
Link
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
Their version of Faith is terrible
court168627 - January 25, 2012 via Android app
Every version of Faith is terrible.
fbihop - January 25, 2012
Except Eliza Dushku
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
i often talk about the difference between good/bad music and music that i like/dislike. i think Elton John is bad music but i like Elton John
court168627 - January 25, 2012 via Android app
No way something like “Tiny Dancer” is bad music.
silverwidow - January 25, 2012
Way Benny & the Jets is though
mleadman - January 25, 2012
I was going to sing that at karaoke, just for Phil.
I don’t get the hatred though, that is such a harmless nothing song.
David Young - January 25, 2012
Don't hate it
just not any good
mleadman - January 25, 2012
i guess i just think of his music as supremely uncool. yet, i love tiny dancer.
court168627 - January 25, 2012 via Android app
back in the day in 8th grade his music from his first album was as cool as it gets. By high school, not so much.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
This song is amazing
Ivdown - January 25, 2012
It depends on which Elton John we’re talking about. The stuff that made Elton famous? Nothing wrong with that. Late-period Elton? Oy.
Stevie Wonder, same thing.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
good call on this, for both artist
whatever happened to the Lionel Richie that sang Brick House? How do we go from that to “Hello?”
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Brick House is still funkadelicious.
David Young - January 25, 2012
i think that goes without saying. i generally assume that most pop musicians later output is terrible, especially wjen their career lasts longer than a decade
court168627 - January 25, 2012 via Android app
Except The Kinks. 60s British Invasion group? 80s stadium rockers? I’ll take ’em all.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
what if you transition from teen group pop to solo teen pop to adult hip-pop like JT
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
i said generally. of course there are exceptions. however, i dont see the kinks as one
court168627 - January 25, 2012 via Android app
i hate when people take one example who is above and beyond the norm and use it as evidence against generalities.
However, in this case, I was just curious of your opinion.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
im completely ambivalent towards Justin Timberlake’s entire careering
court168627 - January 25, 2012 via Android app
damn autocorrect
court168627 - January 25, 2012 via Android app
didn't JT write most of NSYNC's songs?
which would make sense why he is the only one to actually have a career afterwords
nolander - January 25, 2012
i strongly doubt that any member of that had significant contributions to the composition of their songs
court168627 - January 25, 2012 via Android app
that was my thought as well.
“Here kids, sing ‘Yeah’ into this microphone 40 times in 3 minutes. It’s hit!”
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
styx
nolander - January 25, 2012
I love Styx
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
I love them too
but something about them makes me want to say they are bad music
nolander - January 25, 2012
Because they are
The one thing I give Styx is music like theirs pushed me into punk rock
mleadman - January 25, 2012
I’m surprised there hasn’t been a stage musical based on the music of Styx yet.
David Young - January 25, 2012
Every Styx concert ever is a stage musical.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
hahaha
i love this
court168627 - January 25, 2012 via Android app
Ace of Base
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
you shut your mouth
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
The Cars
Boy George
Romeo Void
mleadman - January 25, 2012
god do I love the Cars – still do
I knew better than Boy George
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I also still love The Cars. Those songs are little 3 1/2 minute power pop masterpieces.
David Young - January 25, 2012
The Cars are bad, I dont’ want to be good. Or something like that.
fbihop - January 25, 2012
Peter Cetera
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
His solo stuff? You really are scraping bottom there.
David Young - January 25, 2012
I was thinking of Hard to Say I’m Sorry and You’re the Inspiration, but those are both Chicago songs. So I retract my Cetera choice.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
He did one song with Amy Grant, and Glory of Love. That’s all I can remember solo.
Nolij - January 25, 2012
I’m back on board for Glory of Love alone.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
He did that hilarious duet with
Cher, where he was singing higher than her.
David Young - January 25, 2012
The Bangles
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
They were cool
when they were The Bangs
mleadman - January 25, 2012
hmmm
Bands is hard, I listen to 80s music :)
Artists? Probably Kelly Clarkson, and its only 2 or 3 songs I actually have on my itunes.
Ivdown - January 25, 2012
same thing – band, musician
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I will still listen to my way overly pretentious Emerson, Lake and Palmer records.
I can hear Marty retching from here.
David Young - January 25, 2012
Brain Salad Surgery
ugh
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Album has one of the worst lyrics ever
Well, it rhymed.
David Young - January 25, 2012
haha thats some fred durst shit right there
nolander - January 25, 2012
And now I'm old and fatter
preacher roe - January 25, 2012
The Houston aww fuck it
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
The Houston We Got A Problem
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Any song
On Pictures at an Exhibition if great.
jim hitchcock (railway) - January 25, 2012
I prefer Hut on Fowl Legs to Great Gate of Kiev. Or are we not talking Mussorgsky?
Nolij - January 25, 2012
ELP
put out a live record of them playing their version of Mussorgsky. It is pretty damn pretentious. I played it a lot in the mid-70s. I once used elementary electronic chips on a breadboard to have it play the melody line of Promenade. Lame.
David Young - January 25, 2012
that's ok
I really liked The Moody Blues and even went to see them at the Hollywood Bowl when they had all passed their expiration date
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Weird lineup choices
I saw Stevie Ray Vaughan for the first time at the Forum. Backup band for The Moody Blues.
jim hitchcock (railway) - January 25, 2012
Living Colour
Guns n’ Roses
Rolling Stones
I got so wasted during that show that I passed out twice
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
A friend of mine reported back from this Coliseum concert:
Rolling Stones
J. Geils Band
[some other act]
Prince
He thought Prince was great and was stunned he got booed off the stage. He was also surprised how much the J. Geils Band sucked. But their front man was boning Kathleen Turner in her prime years, so there’s that.
David Young - January 25, 2012
How can you be surprised how much J. Geils Band sucks. My blood runs cold just thinking about them
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Hey, they may make your list for me
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Geils stinks. Yeah, yeah.
Nolij - January 25, 2012
I was there!
mleadman - January 25, 2012
Bet you didn’t boo Prince.
David Young - January 25, 2012
Nope
That’s who I wanted to see most. That was like 1980, and the Stones were already past it for 5 years
mleadman - January 25, 2012
I was a huge Prince
fan up until Purple Rain
mleadman - January 25, 2012
yeah, that’s about par
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Among the post-Purple Rain stuff
I like the Sign o’ the Times album.
David Young - January 25, 2012
end of the Stones
I was too young to know what I was singing, but I loved “Miss You” so much when it came out that I can today sing that whole song word for word
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Sticky Fingers
was the first album I bought
mleadman - January 25, 2012
People think I’m Crazz zy
What’s a matter witchu boy?
good stuff
I think the Stones, while not my favorite band of all time, and the greatest band of all time
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I was tempted to boo Coldplay at some KCRW concert, but was scared I would be trampled by all the grey haired ponytails
so I sat on my hands miserable
the band for that night was this Mexican rocker group called Café Tacuba. Check them out
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Alan Parsons Project are a bit of a guilty pleasure for me.
Nolij - January 25, 2012
I wouldn’t want to be like you.
David Young - January 25, 2012
I knew that. I can read your mind.
iiidown - January 25, 2012
Yes
mleadman - January 25, 2012
Erasure
Nolij - January 25, 2012
[Checks iPhone]
[has 3 Erasure songs]
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
That’s showing them a little respect.
Nolij - January 25, 2012
I really liked Pearl Jam when I was 18-22
Now I am a different person
Pure Azure - January 25, 2012
How I feel about Rage Against the Machine.
But I’ll still crank it whenever I heard it on the radio.
fbihop - January 25, 2012
…in high school.
Nolij - January 25, 2012
Alive is my second favorite song to sing on Rock Band, behind Everlong by the Foo Fighters.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
Welcome Home
nolander - January 25, 2012
i know exactly how you feel. i loved pearl jam wjen i was 13 and i don’t really dislike them now, but im pretty far from a fan
court168627 - January 25, 2012 via Android app
yeah – I can still listen to Nirvana, but the sound of Pearl Jam makes me want change the station
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Music I heard for the first time that I said wow
Hendrix
Bowie
Sparks
Bruce Springsteen
Dire Straits
X
Nirvana
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Sparks didn’t do it for me – but I think I saw them about 1000 times at Magic Mountain
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I’ll always remember the riff from “this town isn’t big enough for the both of us”. The songs that became hits were passable but the second album from the song above was something I’d never heard before. I don’t think any song from that album was played on the radio. By the time they became big I’d moved on, but still love that one album. Or maybe not, have not heard it in 25 years.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Sparks played my high school (grades 7-12) c. 1973 or 1974? – somehow I missed that.
David Young - January 25, 2012
the rest of your list lines up with me
I also love The Doors – which I know Marty, but it hit the spoke for me
These days have a bunch of electronica on my Ipod, things like Shirley Bassey re-mixes and Thievery Corporation and other stuff I bought because I heard it on Jason Bentley and was so surprised how much I loved it. That music for me is traveling and driving
God, did I love Dire Straits for a while
and Nirvana was so fresh when I was done with everything
Hell, you know who I like. I like Jack White and every thing he does. His album with Loretta Lynn might be one of my top 5 of all time.
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Dire Straits
The Mark Knopfler can really handle that fucking axe.
David Young - January 25, 2012
And wrote a perfect soundtrack to The Princess bride.
Nolij - January 25, 2012
Trying to decide if Spawn is old enough for this movie. Scary stuff that I can remember are the screaming eels, the ROUSes, and Wesley dying (well, almost dying). I dunno if she can handle that stuff.
I won’t even tell her the name of the movie, though. All I would have to say would be the words “Princess” and “Bride” and she would be all in.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
I got about 2/3 of the way through reading the book with my 4-year-old (cleaning it up some along the way), little bits every night, then he asked me to stop. I think the idea of Count Rugen “being mean” to Westley was too much for him.
Nolij - January 25, 2012
Not everyone can be Peter Falk
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
You know you want
to hear her say, “My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father. Prepare to die.”
But probably not “INCONCEIVABLE”
David Young - January 25, 2012
That was my kid’s favorite part.
Nolij - January 25, 2012
A few months ago at LA County Art Museum
they did a reading of The Princess Bride script:
The players were:
Paul Rudd as Westley (originally played by Cary Ewes)
Mindy Kaling as Buttercup (Robin Wright)
Cary Elwes as Prince Humperdinck (Chris Sarandon)
Nick Kroll as Count Rugen (Christopher Guest)
Patton Oswalt as Vizzini (Wallace Shawn)
Bill Fagerbakke as Fezzik (Andre the Giant)
Goran Višnjic as Inigo Montoya (Mandy Patinkin)
Kevin Pollack as Miracle Max (Billy Crystal)
Collette Wolfe as Valerie (Carol Kane)
Fred Savage as The Grandson (Fred Savage)
Rob Reiner as The Grandfather (Peter Falk)
One of the great things and unfortunate things is that this was not recorded so it was a singular performance at LACMA.
bhsportsguy - January 25, 2012
Mrs HJ does a mean
Marwhiage, oh Marwhiage
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Zat bwessed eventuh, zat dweam wiffin a dweam
and wuv, twoo wuv, wiw fowwow woo fowevvah
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
I think
Mrs. HJ would enjoy watching “The Princess Bride” more than watching Lob City tonight.
bhsportsguy - January 25, 2012
Anybody want a peanut?
mleadman - January 25, 2012
solid
/oldmansayings
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
fist bump
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I didn’t find out about that til the day before. I was very sad to have missed it.
Nolij - January 25, 2012
Yes
so I was I. They said that the crowd roared when Savage read the first line of the movie and that Rudd glanced at Ewes when he said “As you wish”
bhsportsguy - January 25, 2012
With you on the Loretta Lynn album
preacher roe - January 25, 2012
shit man, I might have to listen to it tonight
Watch the Lakers on mute, glass of wine and the Mrs feet in my hands, Loretta singing about the Little Red Shoes
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I remember where I was when I first heard Sultans of Swing, Freebird, and that Kennedy had been shot.
jim hitchcock (railway) - January 25, 2012
I remember that for American Pie.
David Young - January 25, 2012
Me too with this one.
When a buddy got married in England, one evening close friends gathered in his parents’ back yard for dinner. At one point one of his parents’ friends took out a guitar and began playing. Well, at one point, he started playing American Pie, and all of the parents’ friends groaned — not because they didn’t like the song, far from it, but because they could never finish it.
Well, we did it, and everybody else trailed off, but I got ’em through it and remembered all the words and got a standing O. It was a proud moment, for some reason.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
Shorter then Coconut:)
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
You’re such a silly woman.
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
for sure
that song, along with Carly Simon’s “You’re so Vain” are the songs in my head from my earliest memories of our family camping trips
Lake Cachuma FTW
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Did you get ticketed for peeing in Cachuma?
jim hitchcock (railway) - January 25, 2012
dude, you spying on me?
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
The Campgrounds
Up Los Osos Road are some of my favorites. Adding in a concert at the County Bowl makes for a great weekend.
jim hitchcock (railway) - January 25, 2012
I love it up there
trying to talk Mrs HJ into a 4 day Cachuma weekend, buying wine, grilling out, drinking said wine, camping
even promised a run into Solvang
She is on the fence
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
She’ll love it, of course, and demand to go there many more times.
jim hitchcock (railway) - January 25, 2012
that’s the plan
I also love Refugio down on the coast. Was a great place when I was a teenager. El Capitan pretty nice too
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I bet it’s hard to get into Emma K Woods now. But there’s always Tin Can Beach, across the highway the the sand dune.
jim hitchcock (railway) - January 25, 2012
yeah – hard to get in everywhere these days.
I had a party at Emma Woods once that was the closest thing to a television commercial I have ever been in. We cut small holes in watermelons days before and soaked them with vodka, we had a bonfire, we danced all night long, girls in bikinis, skinny dipping, everything.
We didn’t even know we were going to stay there, we just knew we wanted to party at the beach, some how we talked out way into that park, night to remember.
I am saving that one in the memory banks, when I am old and done and in a bed where I just can’t move, I hope to go back to that party, walk around for a while, visit with my friends
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Emma not the slut she once was?
David Young - January 25, 2012
I’ve camped El Capitan a few times, but never Refugio. Cachuma as a kid with the family once. Whole region is fantastic.
David Young - January 25, 2012
El Cap has better surf when the west swell comes in, but I think (or at least thought) that refugio was a prettier campground
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
For years now, almost all my camping has been at lakes where we can take the SeaDoo. I think the last place I camped that wasn’t like that was part of a summer vacation maybe 8 years ago that included camping in the coastal redwoods up near Crescent City, which was fabulous.
David Young - January 25, 2012
SO WHEN IS THE TBLA WEEKEND CAMP OUT?
David Young - January 25, 2012
that would be fun
Vin Scully on the radio while camping is about as good as being an american gets
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Totally agree. Vinny painting the picture in one’s mind while gathered around the campfire pit.
jim hitchcock (railway) - January 25, 2012
About a hundred of us used to spend Easter Week at Refugio in the 70’s. Great place to camp. Did that seven years in a row-took over the whole campground. Set up our portable volleyball net on the grass by the restrooms. Did nothing but play volleyball, surf and drink beer.
iiidown - January 25, 2012
sounds awesome
you ride a pin-tail single fin ride out of Free Ride or 5 Summer Stories?
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Nope. 7’6" Weber Austrailia. We would take a day trip up to Jalama, or bring a boat and motor up to Hollister Ranch. The point at Refugio had to have a large north swell to be rideable.
iiidown - January 25, 2012
You are the MAN
I have wanted to boat up to Hollister my whole life and it just never came together
Yeah, the swell window at Refugio is really small, so is El Cap, but when they go off they are great
Does Bobby know just how cool you are? Do sons every know? Because that is awesome stuff in a great time that you were into…
Damn – that must have been paradise then….
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
It was paradise.
Does any kid know how cool their parents were back in the day? Although, the other day Bobby said “It’s amazing how often you’re right about things.” I don’t know if he was buttering me up, or he was actually learning something.
iiidown - January 25, 2012
The stories I've heard make my dad sound like a legitimate partier back in the day
Ivdown - January 25, 2012
I found video footage of you
iiidown at Easter
look for the cameo of Bobby
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
I cannot tell a lie. I like the shot at the seven-second mark.
David Young - January 25, 2012
I can only imagine a top gun like set up here, lol
Ivdown - January 25, 2012
Casitas was worse
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
I like singing Mick Jagger’s part.
David Young - January 25, 2012
My list would have to include Elvis Costello.
David Young - January 25, 2012
good call
genius
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
First 2 albums
are genius
mleadman - January 25, 2012
yes
would probably need to add him to the list
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
Duran Duran, Men At Work, Furs
Xeifrank - January 25, 2012
What about Frankie Goes to Hollywood?
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Grass Roots for Office fans
Bad Music – Monkeys?
Maybe Sparks but not sure they are bad music
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
love the monkees, hate sparks. but i think the whole point of that band was “so bad it’s good” . hj had a good line about tjat phrase once, but i don’t remember it
court168627 - January 25, 2012 via Android app
neither do I!
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Joe said:
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
that was it
court168627 - January 25, 2012 via Android app
The Beatles. Those guys suck!
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
Everyone Wang Chung Tonight - while I hated this song
I had a Wang Chung period
Loved “Dance Hall Days”
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Yes!
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
Rafael Betancourt signed an extension with the Rockies today. He was already under contract for…
2012: $4m
2013: $4.25m mutual buyout ($250,000 buyout)
Now it’s
2012: $4m
2013: $4.25m
2014: $4.5m mutual option ($250,000 buyout)
Also gets annual bonuses, per AP:
In 2012, $200,000 for 55 games finished
In 2013 and 2014…
$50,000 each for 40 and 45 games finished
$150,000 for 50
$200,000 for 55
$250,000 for 60
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
Ned gives 2 year deals
and the Rockies give extensions when they are absolutely under no pressure to do so.
bhsportsguy - January 25, 2012
Indeed
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
Still think that in the past eight months, the Padre group has made better moves than all the other West teams combined.
meercatjohn - January 25, 2012
no doubt.
Hell, they traded Mat Latos for Mat Latos, Yonder Alonso, Grandal and a bullpen piece.
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
That’s a hell of a trick.
Nolij - January 25, 2012
Tulo’d
kinbote - January 25, 2012
#UnderusedAtBatSongs on Twitter.
That is all.
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
They sat together in the park
As the evening sky grew dark
She looked at him and he felt a spark
Tingle to his bones
‘Twas then he felt alone
And wished that he’d gone straight
And watched out for a simple twist of fate
silverwidow - January 25, 2012
Is that Hootie? :0
kinbote - January 25, 2012
“You’re the Best Around”
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
—Andy LaRoche
Nolij - January 25, 2012
Shhhh! That’s the joke!
Humma Kavula - January 25, 2012
[there’s no crying in baseball clip]
-James McDonald
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
This is what I used as my walk-up music when I got to pick last year. At least I think it is. I can’t check youtube from here.
Nolij - January 25, 2012
What was it?
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
K’naan – Wavin’ Flag
Nolij - January 25, 2012
/shrug
hopefully i’ll hear it again this season
G.Scott - January 25, 2012
My Own Worst Enemy by Lit.
fbihop - January 25, 2012
Nervous
mleadman - January 25, 2012
So glad you are all gone
I can finally finish my work up!
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Pat Sajak - Drinking through WOF
In “Wheel of Fortune’s” early format, Sajak found himself with two-and-a-half-hour dinner breaks while they changed up the prizes. So he and his right-hand woman Vanna White would go out to Los Arcos, a nearby Mexican restaurant in Burbank, for some margaritas.
“Vanna and I would go across and have two or three or six and then come and do the last shows and have trouble recognizing the alphabet. They’re really great tapes to get a hold of,” Sajak said.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/25/pat-sajak-wheel-of-fortune-drunk_n_1232065.html
mleadman - January 25, 2012
awesome
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
In that time frame I wouldn’t have minded knocking back a few tequilas with Vanna White, eh?
David Young - January 25, 2012
exactly
I have heard stories that she was a bit of a party girl back in the day
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
Enough for early years photos to end up in Playboy.
David Young - January 25, 2012
didn’t know that
of course you did
Hollywood Joe - January 25, 2012
This was big news at the time!
David Young - January 25, 2012
Presented without irony
kinbote - January 25, 2012
Howard's 5/$125M (avg 25/year) extenstion starts now
That’s for his age 32-36 years. Prince Fielder just signed through his age 36 season. 9/215 (avg >24/year), or so, right?
Ned signed Matt Kemp for 8/160 (avg 20/year) for ages 27-34.
David Young - January 25, 2012
new post
http://www.truebluela.com/2012/1/25/2728320/dodgers-2012-minor-league-countdown-100-91
Eric Stephen - January 25, 2012
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