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Andre Ethier, On Wounded Knee

That's an angry, if not painful, swing for Andre Ethier.

Chris Carlson - ASSOCIATED PRESS

That's an angry, if not painful, swing for Andre Ethier.

Andre Ethier was interviewed by Mark Willard of ESPN Radio 710 in Los Angeles, and spoke about the knee injury that limited the right fielder to 11 home runs in 135 games and cut short season in early September:

"I've kind of dealt with this knee thing for the past two years, put it off for one off-season and then last season it just became a thing where a lot of things started multiplying and getting worse and something where I couldn't quite get back my swing … It was very frustrating and I learned a lot from that."

Ethier also expressed frustration at the Dodgers for not participating in any big free agent signings this winter, but noted, "Obviously it's going to get better from here on out because of the [sale] and getting new people in there." The interview will air on Saturday at 11:30 a.m. PST, which by then will make it about as fresh and timely as an interview by Lee 'Hacksaw' Hamilton.

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Clayton Kershaw caught up with Domingo Ayala (@DomingoBeisbol on Twitter) recently, and the two took part in a bullpen session together, and had a press conference for an upcoming "challenge" (hat tip to Xeifrank for the link):

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I can't thank you enough for the overwhelming amount of support you all showed me yesterday. I have written here at True Blue LA for over three years, and I'm thankful to have all of you as loyal readers and integral members of the community. There is nothing I love doing more than writing about the Dodgers, and about sports in general. Now, thanks to a freelance writing job I have taken, I will now have even more time to devote to doing a job I love.

My plan is to go to Arizona for six full weeks of spring training, and from then throughout the regular season provide you with more Dodgers coverage than ever before. Thanks again for reading, and for your support.

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Andre Ethier obviously doesn’t know who Mark Ellis is.

Congrats Eric! That really is awesome news!

Thanks for taking care of the knee during the previous off seasons when it first started bothering you Andre. Nothing like sucking for a year 1/2 and coming into your free agent year to get that taken care of. Fuck you

trying to encourage Ethier to re-sign or resign?

He is just doing what we’ve seen a lot of guys do, try to play through it with less than stellar results. Although letting it go on for a year and a half is pretty dumb.

Does the writing job involve spray paint and restrooms?

thanks!

I don’t post very much, but this site is one of my everyday pleasures. Thank you for your dedication to Dodger fans everywhere!!

Ditto

Can’t post as much as I once did, maybe this summer, but I’m here to read most every day. You do a great job Eric, all of you guys do.

Mind as well get Clippers talk

started a little early today. Clippers vs Lakers tonight. My SRS has the Lakers as 6 point favorites and Vegas says Lakers by 3.5. Looks like Chris Paul is going to start.

what is SRS if I may ask?

Software Requirements Specification.

Oops, wrong world.

Simple Rating System. B-ref uses it to power rank teams. Similar system used in BCS computer rankings and Pomeroy college basketball ratings.

I’m going to save myself the aggravation and watch Animal Planet instead.

This much debate over the meaningless NBA. Imagine if UCLA had a football team. Wow.

I wish Chris was a around

Would love to get his take on the friendly coming up on Feb 29th and if he thinks Rossi will be back by summer

Imagine if LA had a soccer team anyone actually cared about

or one at all

i know, right?

A former Galaxy player, used to play in our baseball league

Andy Oshay

he was probably the best player in the league, incredible athlete

you better still be playing ball in 5 years when I turn 30.

A former Galaxy player used to be a barista at the Starbucks by my parents house. He quit soccer when he made shift manager.

the funny thing if you could substitute NFL practice squad and have the same story. Or minor league baseball player.

Anybody know how much bullpen catchers make?

our backup catcher for my fall team wanted to be a MLB bullpen catcher/strength and conditioning coach, but he had trouble catching rec league pitching. I didn’t have the heart to tell him he should give up his dream.

I'm still chuckling at this

I guess he can learn the hard way through a visit to the ER.

no joke, i’m proud to say i can still get to 85, but I threw a fastball off this guy’s mask this fall. Give it up, bro.

Better the mask than the cup, right?

The cup would be some trick

skip a deuce
bust a nut*

*not the good way

I didn’t tell you the story about the guy who caught without a cup yet, have I?

nope

not sure I want to hear

did they bleed?

I retell this story when I hear about people playing without a cup

It’s second hand, but from a trusted source.

The coach who told me the story coaches high school fall ball teams for kids looking to get scene by colleges and scouts. He told me of a player he had who would catch without a cup. One day, batter fouls the ball straight down, and it comes up and gets the guy in the man berries. He has serious discomfort, so he goes to the hospital. Doctor says he ruptured a testicle, needs to have it removed. Kid has surgery to remove his testicle, gets an infection during surgery, dies from the surgery.

Crazy stuff.

I mostly

play without a cup

especially outfield

but even 3rd

damn you

You’re probably fine as long as you’re not a catcher. What a moron.

Adrian Beltre says huh?

Maybe with a cup he would not be so attentive:)

Alexei Ramirez is not walking through that (dugout) door

Cup talk. Would Humma pay $1000 for one? What say you good folks?

and wow

did I really say “get scene”?

yeesh

That kid wasn’t as tough as Phil Nevin.

Is he now a she?

he was gelded.

hahah no not nfl practice squad you couldn't

those guys are actually really close to actually getting to be on the team.

it would be like saying Jerry Sands might quite baseball if he gets to be shift manager

at starbucks

Joe Becker might

theres only 8 guys on the practice squad

no comparison to minor league baseball

But keys, yo.

Peyton Manning said the day after they fired Caldwell and the execs, they changed all the keys to the practice facility.

well

they probably also released all their training staff

they did

dumb too. why would you release the training staff as Peyton Manning is halfway through his recovery. Some new trainer is going to have to learn his medical history on the fly.

Its likely they will retain a lot of them in the end

but the new coach will get to hire his people.

Peyton who?

would you pay him his $28mil roster bonus to see if he’s healthy?

I have a loyalty problem

so I’d pay him

but rationally, might be time to move on

the reason the bonus is coming due

is because peyton told his agent to give the team an out if his injury never got better. They negotiated a huge contract for him knowing he had his injury, they already did the loyal thing.

trade him to Miami, use the saving to sign 2 offensive linemen, protect your next investment

when is it due

march 8

if he isn't healthy by then they don't pay it

and work out something else like eric says below.

If he stays, they would likely figure out a way to restructure that $28 million.

writing on the wall “Thanks for the memories, now exit through the gift shop please”

so our the MLS reserves, but they both need side jobs

so, they’re like major league baseball players in the 1950s

So rank and file MLS ~= 2nd to 3rd tier athletes in major US sports. Got it.

Just temporarily, I hear it is the next big thing here.

Oh wait, I’ve been hearing the same thing since they told me about jet packs. Then again, they must have come a long way since they are putting the fear of god into the Panamians National Team.

yeah, I’ve been hearing that about as long as I have heard the Clippers have turned the corner

eh, we define corners differently. I’ll be writing about the Clipper Corner soon.

is that next to Spiliken Corners?

Magic Mountain FTW.

they have made real measurable progress

Measure it out for me in World Cup portions that I can understand. Not woman, men, the three legged folk

building stadiums

putting buts in seats seems like real measurable progress.

ah, I forgot I bounced into the MLS thread and out of the National thread.

and the National Team now expects to qualify for the World Cup and make it through the group stage, that’s progress from 30 years ago

so you’re saying the USMNT has turned the corner?

yes, yes I am saying that. Turned the corner in 1994.

You’re saying that soccer is essentially a minor league sport.

no I’m not, I’m saying that it’s not knocking soccer to say reserve league players can’t live on their wages.

huh, I see references to him on the 2007 reserve team roster, neat!

Soccer? Whats that?

What is it good for?

UCLA will bounce back. The football program has turned the corner. =T

haha funny stuff….. soooo I take my break and still no definition of SRS? Small Rample Size??

Strength R Schedule??

It’s probably something I wouldn’t understand.

I’m sending out an SRS, sending out an SRS… Sink R Ship? Yeah I agree I probably wont understand it either.

Simple Rating System

From Basketball-Reference.com:

Simple Rating System; a rating that takes into account average point differential and strength of schedule. The rating is denominated in points above/below average, where zero is average.

Doug Drinen at Pro-Football-Reference.com has an even more detailed description of the system in general.

oh I see…. thanks Eric im going to read more about it.

Thanks
R_ind = 12.0 + (1/16) (R_bal + R_jax + R_cle + . . . . + R_ari)

R_pit = 8.2 + (1/16) (R_ten + R_hou + R_nwe + . . . . + R_det)

.

.

.

R_stl = -4.1 + (1/16) (R_sfo + R_ari + R_ten + . . . . + R_dal)

That’s meant to be “simple”? I’m so thankful I have all you smart people to guide my opinions.

Math is the computers job.

Seriously, where is Beautiful Mind when you need him?

running towards and away from madness at the same time

That’s as good a description of that movie as any.

I did get a little choked up at the pens scene.

Hahahaha rample

Troll.

don't hape the player

hate the game

five little letters and a dot
hit our Josie on the spot
Trolling for laughs
Hoping for mirth
my ass better get back to work

I love that you say meaningless NBA when you are a soccer fan

:)

the game of soccer is not meaningless. the day in day out of MLS is probably meaningless

none of it is meaningless…. to call any sports meaningless is insulting to that fan base. They may not be here to defend themselves, but all sports deserve respect IMO.

thank you for the statement of humanity Chris

in a world where Josie is being self depreciating after stirring the pot on a slow morning, one man will stand up for humanity

Josie is trolling this morning, may have something to do with that elusive corner

kick

the national team plays in Panama tonight, I’m a bit on edge.

Ohhhh Panama, our home and native laaaand

The land of 240 Million against little Panama puts national soccer fans on edge. Funny, they have a population of 3.5 Million.

we’re at 350million citizens

Yes, but the number of people who know how to properly kick a soccer ball are about the same in each country.

every Panamanian citizen would have to buy 1 little caesers hot and fresh for the Tigers to be able to pay Prince Fielder.

Central America is like a soccer team death trap

and sometimes Central America is just a plain ole everybody death trap

even ping pong

because ping pong is crazy

Yeah man, I dont know how they do it.

It's Table Tennis, bud.

its madness is what it is

I just love playing ping pong with my flexolite ping pong paddle

table tennis is what the true sportsmen call it

Ping pong rallies on.

I wouldn't have expected this from chris

But I love that it was said.

blah, blah, blah
Sports are nothing, respect people

to call any sports meaningless is insulting to that fan base
I think its implied there

I have to commend you for enduring MLS soccer. I have a hard time watching it. I can watch European soccer, but watching MLS is like watching Turkish basketball.

but if you lived in Turkey, that bball would be the shit

If you didn’t own a TV.

or the Bobcats vs Wizards

Its tough to watch, no question…. It drives my Italian buddy up the fuckin wall…. But you know, gotta start somewhere…. and whatever helps make LA a title down, im all for, for the most part…. How can MLS get more money into it though??

Be interesting is a start

But they cant be interesting without world class players. Cant get world class players without world class money…. Wonder what MLS plan is to eventually get soccer to that level.

devalue the Euro

prop up the dollar

Play dollar wages to players who sock money away and spend it in Euro countries

/not going to happen

I'm going to be a Galaxy fan

just so I could troll Chivas blogs.

right now MLS is a single entity, so much of it is being attractive enough to get great corporate partners, it’s also selling out the stadiums that have been built, and it’s being attractive enough for the David Beckham’s and Thierry Henry’s to want to come here

Does Ms Turkey attend games?? That would be awesome!

Carl’s needs to offer a Turkey burger in her honor

Both teams coming off two days rest. Paul will probably be rusty, line seems right. Other then the Celtics, I got more money for this game then any other Laker game this year.

Arian Foster

I can see a number of teams putting in huge offer sheets for Foster (Restricted Free Agent). The new CBA only allows a 1st round tender (as opposed to 1st and 3rd) and the Texans are dealing with cap issues.

nola, are you worried about losing him?

no
Foster is no dummy

and the number of teams that would be able to put him in as good a position to succeed as the texans is… small. Not everyone runs a zone blocking scheme and arguably no one does it as good as us. And we should be able to match any offer anyways.

and he like every other player loves kubes

Yeah, everybody in the world wants to be a Houston Texan….

You sound like a Laker or Yankee fan IMO when you talk about the Texans haha… im just playin.

you are "playing" but I know you are not

players love kubes, its no secret, they talk about it all the time. And nothing I said about our ability to put him in the best position to succeed is wrong. Did you miss the last several years of amazing Houston offense?

haha ok, you are right, I just said im playing because I didnt want the comment to go anywhere….. Its not just this comment, but all the comments I have seen about the Texans, feel like you talk about the Texans like they are some kind of dynasty, or greatest NFL franchise ever. You put them on some super franchise level. But maybe im just getting the wrong idea…. Texans are a good team though, and on the rise……I would of just said Foster is no dummy, he is going to look for the most money….which IMO is what he will do. But I think Texans match no matter what. Mario sounds like the guy they might let go.

I think they try to retain mario

but they could go either way. They also need to retain Chris Meyers(best zone blocking center in football right now). I talk that way about the Texans because they are a classy organization on the rise, and yeah, they are a really damn good football team. If Schuab was healthy I think we would have been talking about them playing the giants in two weeks, not the pats.

this whole “your franchise is only good now but they haven’t been good forever so they don’t count” thing you have going sucks man. Today is what matters, championships are fun to point to and remember but if your team sucks they suck and if your team is competitive now then they’re competitive. You need to learn how to let fans of other teams have their moment and not make everything about your favorite team. Are you sure you aren’t from Cal?

Are you sure you aren’t from Cal?

boom

dude, im a Raider fan, my team fuckin sucks…. Where did I make it about my favorite team?

it’s not always about 1 comment, Chris.

Also, ive never said he shouldnt have his moment or be happy about the Texans, or be excited about the future. All I was saying is IMO, he talks about the Texans like its where every player wants to be, they’d take less money to play for Kubiack because he is the greatest HC in the NFL, Players want to be a Texan so bad they will take less money becayse they want to win…. Now he never directly said any of this, but thats how it comes across to me when he talks about Texans and I dont see it like that at all…. see, this is why I should of just stuck to my im just playin comment.

no I didn't say that at all

I did say players love playing for Kubiak. This isn’t idle speculation, this is culled from years of watching and hearing players say they love kubiak, that they believe in him and love playing for him. If you don’t like it, deal.

I didn’t say players want to be Texans just because like they would be Yankees, what I did say was a very specific thing about the scheme and strength of our football team, and how it benefits foster.

Reading Comprehension, do you speak it?

ok, thats fine…. I still think Foster goes for the most money, whatever system its in. But Id expect Texans will match any offer.

you always do this when someone talks about their team

as long as that team isn’t the lakers “man why you acting like your team is so good they aren’t a dynasty!”. Shit I wasn’t talking about dynasty I only have been talking about the current state of the organization and you always jump in with that.

We call that the Yankee / Laker / Celtic dick chip.

if you use it in every convo

it stops being a chip and starts becoming a mockery of a sham

there will be no sham mocking here

pillow rights forever

You left out USC football.

I wonder how old usChris was during the Tollner and Smith years.

We will find out as he deals with the Mike Brown years

Well, im 33 now, 34 in May, so there ya go… I dont remember Tollner though.

I wish I didn't remember Tollner

My old brain has merged Tollner, Larry Smith and Paul Hackett into one big monster of coaching fail

I sort of blend them all together too, but Smith wasn’t that bad. At least until the Freedom Bowl loss to Fresno State.

Did you all like Robinson or to early for you kids

I never knew his first tenure at USC, which was amazing, but liked him in his second turn with the Trojans.

ok, fair enough man, my bad.

wait, cant Houston just franchise tag Foster??

I don't know

but they won’t, its probably long term deal or bust

If Clippers win tonight

They will win the season series against the Lakers for the third time in franchise history.

1992-1993 Clippers won 3 of 5 against the Lakers
1974-1975 Braves won all 4 against the Lakers (Lakers were so mad, they traded for Kareem that offseason)

Trying to jinx us?

Take it to the Clippers thread!

So after the Clippers beat the Lakers tonight

We’ll go get Dwight Howard!

I dont think Howard goes anywhere until after the allstar break, if at all.

This year is just a 3 game series, so I say put anterisk next to it

not if they sweep

was 92-93 the year the Clips had that blow out win that made Chick Hearn say “this is not a dream, there is nothing wrong with your tv set, this is actually happening”

We turned the corner that night

Clippers are 24-9 (.727) in their last 33 games at Staples Center, dating back to last year (includes two road losses to Lakers).

During that same span, Lakers are 27-10 (.730) at Staples Center, including two road losses to the Clippers.

Home team has won the last four Clippers/Lakers tilts, and 9 of the last 10

They have also sold over 19,000 tickets every home game since Feb 2nd, 2011. It was curious in the month of Jan, 2011 they had some 17, 000 and 15,000 ticket games, then they sold out to the Bulls on Feb 2nd, went on an 11 game road trip losing 9 of 11 but came home and basically sold out the rest of the season.

Clippers lead NBA in Road Attendance

Road attendance is interesting. I’d say for the first time in history the Clippers are averaging more fans on the road then the Lakers 19, 482 compared to 19,329. Still extremely close and to early in the season to mean anything since they have not visited the same places.

In 2010/2011 the Clippers were 7th

In 2009/201 the Clippes were 29th of 30

are NBA arenas all about the same size? would it matter who they have played so far? Have the CLippers played more well-attended teams on the road than the lakers have? I’m just curious

Clippers have played only four road games:

at Golden State (Christmas night)
at Portland
at San Antonio
at Utah

so you start with a sellout opening night at that cavernous Oakland Arena, then go to basketball’s three best cities

In capacity

Utah (19,911)
Portland (19,980)
San Antonio (18,581)
Golden State (19,596)

List here

That’s 19,517 average capacity, which is still great for the Clippers who are averaging 35 seats less than capacity using Phil’s numbers. 99.8% ain’t too shabby.

Curious on the Portland Capacity because based on the box scores the Lakers drew 20, 444 and the Clippers drew 20, 381.

the capacity is always deflated the appease the fire marshall, surprising that they’d release figures above capacity though

Could be that Wiki isn’t updated.

I checked the Blazers game notes and it looks like their capacity is 20,510

I so want to eat a breakfast burrito

but I say NO, NO! NO!!!!!

I just finished mine. It was Aramark, and it was delicious.

yeah – 20 years makes a big difference my friend

Craig gave me a place, but it may be too expensive for us right now. Going to put on a wine event instead. A little easier to put on and a lot less per head. Need to find somewhere in Pasadena area that is going to let us have a private room and will do it classy.

I know the owners of a great place in Hollywood

Vintage Enoteca

I know no one in Pasadena

Awesome. His clients are in clusters (nature of referrals, I suppose) so he has events either in Pasadena, Beverly Hills, West Side (I think Hollywood would work) and Newport.

Sure – give them my name – tell them it is Joe who rides a bike and drinks all of their Italian Reds.

They don’t have a private room, but they have closed the place for private events in the past

there is a wine shop in Alta Dena that has a great cellar for these kind of events too

how many people?

10-16, hoping for 40 bucks a head, maybe a 2ish hour event

the Alta Dena place sounds promising as well.

I’m not sure shutting down your wine bar for 2 hours for 400-600 bucks would be worth it though.

depends on the day and the hours probably – but ask them and see what you get

done and done. what was the name of the place in Alta Dena?

not altadena

Atwater

55 Degree

This one looks great. I’ve sent them both inquiries. Thanks for your help, Joe.

I know more options if you need it, but would start there

Yeah two places is a great start. Thanks again. I have a game this Saturday afternoon or I would see if you wanted to hit the cages.

Wghere in Altadena?

Do you mean Mission Wine on Washington in Pasadena?

keep reading

mixed up Altadena with Atwater Village

not sure how, but I did

Isn’t Beverly Hills closer to the Westside than Hollywood, generally?

yeah, I remember him referring to “west side” as beverly hills/santa monica. another pocket in south valley being sherman oaks/studio city. I think Hollywood would be central enough for both sets.

the original comment was deleted gary

because no subject

ahhh – How’d I do that?

I misread this at first.

erotica?

No, biblioteca. ;-)

Donde esta el biblioteca?
Im getting Bobbi's from Camarillo soon

Bacon, egg, and cheese breakfast burrito…mmmmm

Hopefully it’s good, I’ve never had from there before.

Anthony Bourdain was eating breakfast burritos in L.A. last night on “The Layover.” Forgot the name of the joint.

he made his own breakfast one morning and I almost flipped out. so many wasted opportunities to go to awesome breakfast joints.

Dude! Bobbi’s is one of my favorite places to eat! Their burritos rock. Maybe I will grab one on my way over to the Nard this evening.

When I posted that I figured you'd know it

I’m hoping it’s good, and from what i’ve heard about it, I shouldn’t be disappointed.

There’s a good Chinese dim-sum place a couple of doors down and of course Wood Ranch across the street.

I've never been to a Wood Ranch either

I need to get out to more places, lol.

I've heard mixed things on Wood Ranch

The grilled asparagus and baked potatoes are great sides. It’s a good date or birthday place to eat.

and best of all, Bobbi’s has soccer on their TVs all the time. /Josie

BOBBI!

That’s where my 7 year old daughter learned how to make a free kick wall in soccer. I asked her after one of our games, how did you guys know how to make a wall in front of the goal? She said she saw it on the TV at Bobbi’s.

It’s my favorite AM food item round these parts. My coworker and I always go to the same place. They heat the huge flour tortilla, put on eggs, potatoes, and more thick, dark, crispy bacon than anyone should have. We skip the cheese and get salsa on the side (makes it too soggy). It’s really damn good. (I get jalapenos when I’m feeling frisky.)

Do you guys like superfluous amounts of hash browns in your breakfast burritos? It’s hard to find a place with just the right combo of eggs, meat and potatoes.

I love potatoes

give me all the potatoes you have

by the use of the word “superfluous” you already have implied the answer

for me, it is an egg and salsa dish, the potatoes and meat are complementary players

I love eggs

give me all the eggs you have

I like potatoes in breakfast burritos but I don’t think they are necessary.

I enjoy meat, eggs, and salsa. Potatoes and cheese are welcome as well, but not too much (depending on the level of inebriation I suppose)

I love meat

give me all the meat you have

This is one of those quotes that should be screen captured and used out of context over and over again.

i went there thrice but never committed

I just made a breakfast burrito: eggs, bacon, cheese – seasoned with Lawry’s in a flour tortilla

Is that hot sauce?
no

its meat seasoning.

but it’s great on eggs, salsa would have taken it in a new direction

its probably good on most everything
Oh ok

Besides the seasoning that sounds great

You didn’t even know what it was! How do you know if you would or wouldn’t like the seasoning?

I don’t need fancy extras, i’ve got bacon, egg, and cheese, that combo alone is amazing

and MSG
keep reading
Yeah

it used to have MSG, but then again what didn’t

interesting

I was practically raised on the stuff, wonder when they removed the msg.

4 years after they said they did

did you just through the lawry's on after cooking?

bacon in skillet, eggs on top of cooked bacon, Lawry’s, cheese, plate.

you cooked the eggs on top of the bacon?

or just in the bacon grease?

on top of, just made a big scramble. I usually do it with sausage, but didn’t have any

Must have been some really oily eggs.

is there MSG in that seasoning?

None in Lawry’s, says it on the label

Since he came up yesterday

classic

how either of those men functioned in the real world is beyond me

Spud might have had the greatest vertical leap in history

Spud Webb is taller than Humma.

Also, I can’t function in the real world.

I can, Spud and I are eye level.

Spud is my height. What would the problem be for him in the real world?

Evidently you and I have trouble functioning in the real world

Gotta be Spud Web, one of my all time favorite College players.

Man I have no memory of him in college. Only the pros, and the slam dunk contest that Dominique should have won (just like against Jordan in 1988)

From Wiki
NBA Slam Dunk Contest
.
Webb was the shortest person to compete in the NBA Slam Dunk Contest, winning the event in 1986. His participation surprised the media; including his teammate and defending dunk champion Dominique Wilkins, who had “never seen me dunk before,” Webb said. His dunks included the elevator two-handed double pump dunk, the one-handed off the backboard one-handed jam, a 360-degree helicopter one-handed dunk, a 180-degree reverse double-pump slam, and finally, the 180-degree reverse two-handed strawberry jam from a lob bounce off the floor. He defeated Wilkins with two perfect 50-point scores in the final round. Atlanta coach Mike Fratello said, “Spud kind of duped him. He told Wilkins he never had anything prepared, didn’t practice for it. So, Wilkins maybe thought his normal assortment would be good enough to get through”. Twenty years after Webb’s victory in the Slam Dunk contest, he trained New York Knicks point guard Nate Robinson (who stands at 5 feet 9 inches tall) to win the event. Webb tossed the ball to Robinson, who leaped over Webb and dunked, earning 50 points from the judges. Robinson went on to win, making him and Spud the only two people in NBA history under six feet tall to win a slam dunk contest

North Carolina State was my favorite team at the time after falling in love with them during the Valvano run to the championship.

his dunks were awesome

not sure if Manute could dunk at all, seriuoly Tommy L like hops

look at those legs!

so skinny if he jumped any higher they would shatter on landing

Manute Bol was the one who came up yesterday

I know, figured most had no idea who Spud was

hell yeah, Spud Webb and Dominque Wilkins, classic Hawks for me.

Wilkins was the Clipper who helped them turn the corner

on the way to Psyclone?

The corner turned into a dead end street, but you retrace and try another route.

and wind up at Roaring Rapids?

and bounce back

I'm already sick of draft talk

and the football season isn’t even over yet

I hear ya - I tell myself

you don’t have to watch

they have to fill airwaves

Yeah, and the dam draft isnt until end of April, so still a long way to go to hear about it daily…. Wonder why they dont have draft end of February, or early March, get it over with.

because money

There’s more sports going on in April than in late Feb. Hockey and Basketball in both periods, but you also have baseball in April. Seems like late Feb would be a better time to “cash in” on the exhiliration that is the NFL draft.

yeah I agree… The NBA Finals is in June, Draft is in July. Though I know NBA has a much shorter offseason as well. Anyways, would like to know where the NFL came up with April for its draft, basically 3 months after SB.

they start cashing in as soon as the super bowl is over

they have a nonstop amount of draft talk and buzz for two months. Not sure if the boost they would get in tv ratings for the actual draft itself earlier would offset that.

Right, but hasnt the NFL Draft been in April for as long as there has been a draft?? Before ESPN and all the coverage stuff?

ah, a buddy of mine said maybe its because of school…. so players can “finish school”… Otherwise some would just drop out right after being drafted in February. That is probably it I think.

Which probably also explains why baseball draft is in June, when HS is out…. and NBA draft is in July when school is out.

For baseball, it’s more about getting high school and college kids into workouts outside of a competitive setting.

For basketball, it’s when the season ends.

Football makes no sense.

I think it’s to maximize Mel Kiper’s visibility.

It all fits into their off-season plans

Free agency starts in March, workouts begin then. There is the combine in February but the top players don’t workout there, they workout at their schools in Feb – April.

More importantly, it keeps football talk going on throughout the year.

The top players certainly do workout at the combine

some of them don’t, but most do.

got these networks that need to fill airtime

got these ads that need to be scene

got these people who will watch it rather than doing something else

sounds like money to me

his hair does that already

I do admire his ability to make a thing out of his thing

The Football Scientist on ESPN pretty cool too

It makes sense for the reasons I said above

I don’t like it, but it is what it is.

For most fans right now though, it's all we have to "look forward to" sad though that may sound.

At least in the near future. Draft is overhyped but it’s still important. Though chris shouldn’t have to worry about it too much. ;0)

many texans fans will tell you its the highlight of our season

I won’t because thats stupid, but its a thing.

I like the draft, because if you are a Steeler fan you have come to rely on it

I enjoy it

but I don’t want to watch X player get hyped for a month, then see Y player get drafted, see everyone flip their lidsa t first becuase they thought we where getting X, only to find out Y is actually also highly rated and turns out to be the better player or just as good..

You can insert Cameron Jordan for X and JJ Watt for Y. Or matthews and cushing respectively.

I have no reason to watch this year, since the Raiders don’t pick until May or so.

you could trade up!
hehe

yeah that was my joke for chris above.

yeah, joe, that’s how others should model themselves, after how the steelers have done it.

(Especially with so many free agency busts, or unwieldy contracts)

really respect teams that have built up primarily through good scouting and drafting

anyway, mel kiper can go stuff himself, but i still enjoy following draft.

Why I stopped watching ESPN:

year round football coverage that usually trumps baseball even in the offseason.

current breakdown, according to deadspin
NFL: 225.5 minutes (40.2%)
NBA: 106.5 (19%)
College basketball: 76 (13.6%)
College football: 55 (9.8%)
MLB: 16.75 (2.9%)
NHL: 13.5 (2.4%)
Other sports: 18 (3.2%)
SportsCenter staples (things like the “Top 10,” “Encore,” “What 2 Watch 4,” etc.): 48.75 (8.7%)

source

like.. RIGHT NOW?

question is what is it during baseball season

NFL might come down to a more reasonable 25%, NBA and MLB switch would be my guess

I wonder what this looks like in April or May

Tim Tebow 3284723473248 Minutes

I can relate to that. Can we not give football a rest when they are not in season? Geez.

Anyone ever snowsled down a hill with their dog?

nope, I dont want to give my dog a heart attack.

my dog loved the snow, but that is something we didn’t do

he was also 90 lbs. I did get him to mush for about a 100 yards but that was it

sounds fun

damn dog thoughts make me cry

here is my guy – Bodhi – he is missed

Love the scarf

and walking stick

you've got an eye for quality

made it myself, in the woods of North Carolina, with the same dog, in the winter of 2003

this was thanksgiving weekend a few years back in Idlewild.

He was well fed

yes, these were his comfort years

this hike was his last great adventure, he has to be 10 years old at the time. Busted his butt on one heck of a hike. Slept for like 16 hours the next day. Mrs HJ and the Dachshund was also along for the hike, she calls it the “Thanksgiving Death March” to this day

I like how you had the Dachshund take the photo since Mrs HJ was probably sitting on a rock.

so, um, how was it?

my kids have tried

without much success at keeping our dog on the sled.

Nope. My dogs probably wouldn’t take to that. I have friends whose dogs do love the SeaDoo ride though.

From the Clips Nation preview

Kobe’s 38.8% usage rate this season is the highest in the history of the stat.

Seems about right.

For reference

Usage Rate is a percentage

Usage Percentage (available since the 1977-78 season in the NBA); the formula is 100 * ((FGA + 0.44 * FTA + TOV) * (Tm MP / 5)) / (MP * (Tm FGA + 0.44 * Tm FTA + Tm TOV)). Usage percentage is an estimate of the percentage of team plays used by a player while he was on the floor.

Kobe was at 38.7% in 2005-2006 when he led the league in scoring at 35.4 points per game. This year Kobe is at 38.8%, and for his career he is at 31.7%. Kobe led the league in usage rate in 2006 and 2011 (35.1%).

Jordan’s usage rate when he scored 3,000 points (37.1 ppg in 1987) was 38.3%, his career high and one of eight times Jordan led the NBA in the stat. For his career, Jordan’s usage rate was 33.3%.

Kevin Love signed a 4 year extension today. He said he would have gone 5 but the team only wanted to give him 4.

Umm, what the hell TWolves?

The TWolves are stupid.

Love Love Love

He’d be my favorite Laker the moment he joined the team

The Houston Love

The Houston Whitney’s

The Houston Blow

The Houston Tony Montana’s

The Houston Joe Montanas

The Houston Over-Actors

The Houston Screamers

Houston Hotel Room Hookers

Houston Hugh Grants

Now a trade to the Lakers for Pau would be more plausible because of the salaries.

Too lazy to reply to exact comments so here they all are.

1. Andre Ethier joins a long list of players who thought they could play through something but end up getting surgery later. A pox on Andre for that.

2. I heartily endorse Vintage Enoteca. Wonderful people there.

3. I am glad to see that someone here watches local news.

4. This is my take on the whole Clipper/Laker thing, for right now, this season, there is something to these games. You can’t compare this Clipper team to any other team in their past because Paul and Billups bring a dimension and presence lacking in their history. Will go beyond this season, let’s hope so for LA, it will add a new dimension to the NBA.

5. Lucky Boy on Arroyo in Pasadena still makes the best breakfast burrito.

6. Seeing those seasoned salt shakers at Lawry’s Carvery at LA Live the other day reminds me of the old California Center and of course, Lawry’s Prime Rib. I don’t use the salt that often anymore but it was a stable back in the day.

Lucky Boy is good.

Awesome! I’m definitely looking into Vintage Enoteca first.

I read that as Vintage Erotica.

As did I. And I thought it was great that BH was heartily endorsing it.

The porn these days leaves nothing to the imagination!

Bettie Page FTW!
Okay to be honest

the first time I met HJ there (and it is in Hollywood on Sunset Blvd). I saw the sign and thought, hey did HJ send me to an adult book store.

Then I saw the wine.

An aside, the owners are two very lovely women who are both knowledgeable about wine and very personable.

Do you think it’s something that would be offputting to high-yield clients?

attractive women?

an adult book store look

it doesn’t look like an adult bookstore – it looks like a charming wine bar / cafe

the dirty minds on this site can’t read. if the invite says local wine bar Vintage Enoteca (Italian for wine store) then I think you are safe

I thought Erotica from the get go.

Gary’s clients might be bummed if at first glance they think he took them to an upscale erotica store only to find out it was a wine cafe. Emotional roller coaster:

awesome
disappointment
this is cool
awesome

I have taken about a half dozen business meetings there and have never had that fear

I even invited women clients there without issue

Maybe we all should just call it Vintage from now on

Yes it does look like that

it is really a great place, hope to go back soon, like maybe tonight.

since I’ve decided to go all in with this cut the chord business, local news is how I see sports highlights.

isn't OTA such a nice HD picture?

it’s crystal baby, compares quite favorably at least the U-verse’s HD. And the sound is mixed much higher, makes for a richer experience all together

I visited a friend of mine a few weeks back and he did the same thing, ditching DirecTV. I had no idea you could get an HD picture over the air.

That was originally the only way to get it

Vintage erotica?

what chord did you cut?

The diameter would be a good choice.

Insist on a perpendicular cut into two equal pieces and you can guarantee the usage of a diameter.

the cable chord. I’m trying to make OTA my habit so when I move out I don’t need to buy cable

But, Dodgers games

soccer games are OTA?

Univision FTW

I have been investing time getting to known the Mexican Premiera Division, I will admit.

¡Vomonos Tigres!

the money I save not paying a cable bill I could put into a mini plan, plus KCAL (let’s hope), and radio is still an option. Plus, if I do get on with __, I may never have to buy tickets again : )

I don't think you understood my question

There are 162 Dodgers games. 162 of them need to be seen. Not saying 100% is always achieved, but the option has to be there.

I hear what you’re saying, I really do. I’m just, I’m trying to find a balance. When I reach a financial point where I’m just sitting on money, then I’ll revisit

I respect the decision to want to cut costs.

There is always the option of only having cable from April through September, and go six months without during the offseason. :)

I mean really for me, I’ve noticed once I stopped thinking I needed to see the sitcoms on FX, IFC, BBC America, and Comedy Central I haven’t missed them

ESPN and the RSNs are the reason to get cable, but with ESPN3 streaming it comes down to just RSNs

and emotion divorced, it seems silly to pay for 1000 channels to watch two

hulu has you covered anyways

or netflix a year later for bbc america

Yes it does, I was bummed that Obama did not address that last night. It is my number one issue.

I'll let you know if my proxy stuff works out

then you can just use your computer

You mean if your stealing pans out?

its illegal and possibly immoral

but its not stealing

I need to frame this

yeah I won’t be doing anything against the law. When I was a kid I thought people who stole cable were evil

/LisaSimpsoned

This reminds of the episode she turns vegitarian

it should remind you of the episode where she cut her father’s illegal cable : )

My brain doesn't work that way :)
I full well plan to pay them for their services
Sounds like what he wants to do

is pay for something like MLB.TV but use a proxy that shows that he is sitting in a non-blackout area.

I bet Prime Ticket is like “sweet, that’s awesome, go do that!” #not

how much was MLB.TV last year for a full year?
MLB.TV Premium is $119.99 a year or $24.99 a month, and regular MLB.TV is at $99.99 or $19.99
yes

because blackout rules are stupid and I hate them, even if they are the things that allow the team to get 3 billion dollars from Fox

Ah, I am totally behind your plan.

Wouldn’t it be easier to simply find a man to take care of you?

beat me to the punch

I was looking forward to that call back

it’s LA! Where am I gonna meet a man unless I hit him with my car? : )

TBLA references the movie Being There unintentionally

all the damn time

I was going for LA Story, personally

Sellers at this best or worst?

Can I vote neither?

How about his most unique.

I love that movie.

Yes you may.

I also love that movie

its a good barometer – that film

I like to watch

Nice.

I enjoyed it as well.

cut the chord business

You flat all the third and make all the majors minors??

i just assumed she was studying to become a labor and delivery nurse

THAT’S NOT A CHORD!

I’d have offered you all some prime rib but by the time I remembered it was all gone

We miss the old California Center too. Had a few fun dinners out on that patio. Probably was overprices for what it was, but the atmosphere was totally SoCal.

In 1995

the Mariners turned down a trade that would have sent Tino Martinez and a reliever (Jeff Nelson, Bill Risley, or Bobby Ayala) for Sterling Hitchcock and Jorge Posada.

Soon after, the Mariners sent Tino Martinez, Jeff Nelson, and Jim Mecir for Sterling Hitchcock and Russ Davis.

Ouch

ha ha, I do remember the much hyped Russ Davis. For a while after that he was the poster boy for over hyped Yankee prospects that got hoisted onto other teams.

The Mariners at least had Jay Buhner for a while to remind themselves they were not complete idiots.

Jay Buhner one of my favorite players of the 90’s.

I was a Buhner fan.

Is Jayson Werth a stretch as a comp? Werth is a better fielder, but they remind me of each other. Maybe it’s their swings.

It’s the goatee

always thought jay buhner and mark mcgwire had similar swings

I’m pretty sure I had Davis on a fantasy team or two.

Those Mariners, damn. That trade, and two years later at the trade deadline…Derek Lowe and Jason Varitek for Heathcliff Solcumb. Just absolute killers.

Fuck em, they stole A-Rod from us

Counter point taken and noted. MW prevails.

The Mariners got theirs in the end, famously becoming The Team That Did the Least with the Most Talent™.

Mid 90s Indians want in on that action

and 2011 Philadelphia Phillies

You can talk about single-year teams, sure, but I mean over a period of years. The late-oughts Phillies have a WS win and another WS appearance. The late-90s Mariners got to a couple of LCSs and blew it.

The Indians went to the WS twice in the mid-90s. The Mariners are still looking for their first LCS win.

Tipping point in your favor

someone just gave Gladwell a penny

Ya, I guess I was defining it as “world series win or bust”

stole seems to not be the case

Possession is 9/10 of the draft.

Only in the same way the Dodgers stole home field advantage from the A’s in the 1988 World Series.

Not that we needed it:)

Delias Man once told me that the Mariners were a coin flip between Dreifort and Rodriguez. Damn coins!

The Lakers won a coin flip with the Chicago Bulls for the first pick in 1979.

Whew.

You believe him? That they would take a college reliever over the best high school SS anyone had ever seen?

He’s old enough to remember, I’m not.

So, yes.

Myth

The reality is that ten old fucks were sitting around the table. They started asking about who they should draft in the second round when some young whippersnapper says maybe we should consider taking the Witchita Sate kid and the nine other folk said STFU.

That punk kid then started spreading rumors it was coin flip.

This article

seems to say that while the Mariners thought about Dreifort, they chose A-Rod.

Manager Lou Piniella felt that Dreifort, a near-ready college pitcher, represented a quick-fix possibility for his bullpen.

“In some ways Dreifort made more sense,” Jongewaard said, "but we kept going back to see Alex and felt he was just too special not to take.

“He called the night before the draft and said he wanted to play for the Dodgers, but I said I was sorry, we’d made a decision.”
Ross Newhan

is a reliable source:

While the Dodgers waited in the No. 2 position, the Seattle Mariners, who have the first pick in today’s amateur draft, reversed their field Wednesday, deciding to take shortstop Alex Rodriguez of Miami’s Westminster Christian High over Wichita State relief pitcher Darren Dreifort, who will now be selected by the Dodgers.

The Mariners had been leaning toward Dreifort as a pitcher who could become the bullpen closer when Norm Charlton possibly leaves as a free agent after the 1994 season. However, a club official said Wednesday that the Mariners were now favoring Rodriguez because of his potential as an everyday player and the physical gamble involved in drafting a pitcher. Roger Salkeld, the club’s No. 1 pick from Saugus High in 1989, had reconstructive shoulder surgery in 1992.
So is Tim Kurkjian

from SI:

The Mariners, who held the first pick in the free-agent amateur draft last Thursday, considered making Wichita State reliever Darren Dreifort the No. 1 choice because he probably could have helped them in a pennant drive this year. But in the end Seattle chose Miami high school shortstop Alex Rodriguez because his raw talent was too great to pass up

Neither story says anything about a coin flip, just a bunch of men who finally came around to the only possible decision.

I think it was much closer to a coin flip at the time than you are remembering.

A coin flip is a coin flip and this was not a coin flip.

Was it a roll of the dice?

Did they play Rock Paper Scissors?

Did it come down to Eenie Meenie Miney Moe?

One Potato Two Potato

damn

what was the name of the game with the baseball bat, where you’d toss it to the other guy and go hand over hand until someone topped the bat and they got to be home team?

Bottle cap?

I’d also love the name of that game.

We did not do it for home team, we did it to see who got to pick first. It was always a sad game for some. In time it came to be known as Humma Time.

It will come as no surprise to anyone that I was always the last picked.

I got my revenge in fourth grade kickball. The captain of the other team and possessor of a mighty left foot mocked me as he did not pick me. Somehow I was chosen to roll to him. He mocked me again. I rolled it to him real good, his left foot reared back and he shot it directly into my waiting arms. He was out. Then he moved away and I forgot his name.

Cue “Wing beneath my wings”

That is a stumper, but a great game.

Trivia Time

Get the upper hand
Meaning
Take a dominant position.

Origin
Various suggestions have been made as to the origin of ‘get the upper hand’ (or ‘take the upper hand’). Prominent amongst those is that the phrase originated in American playgrounds, in the way that children select sides for impromptu baseball games. The method is for one team captain to grab the bat at the bottom, then the other captain takes hold above the first’s hand and they progress hand over hand along the bat until the top is reached – the one left holding the bat having the ‘upper hand’ and getting first choice of player for their team.

not what we called it

Out Josied by Gary

Yeah, no way that was what we called it.

We called it “wanna choose teams?”

we didn’t have a name for it, we just knew what to do.

jeez, that sounds like a line from a bad romance novel.

how would you know?

sounds cheesy and full of innuendo

cheesy and full of innuendo

Just another night at Chez Kavula

It was a simpler time.

When Smear the Queer was an acceptable name for a game to say out loud.

man, i hated getting smeared

I don’t believe for a minute that that’s where the phrase “get the upper hand” comes from.

Generally speaking, if you have an idiom, there is not a cute story that gets attached to explain that idiom.

I think it’s just a general feeling up “upper” = “stronger.”

that explanation is from the Encyclopedia of Word and Phrase origins, but also includes:

It probably derives from an English game of chance that has been traced back to the 15th century and was played in the same way as the sandlot choosing contest

the Brits can stick it up their arses, its ours, ours, ours, and even if it was theirs its now ours, like their musicians, their language, and their pluck

I’d see what J.E. Lighter has to say in the Dictionary of American Slang but I don’t have the volume that includes “U.” I only have the first two volumes that Random House published. Did he ever finish that dictionary?

I don’t think we ever got volume III, you’re right

Random House was supposed to publish the third and final volume in 1997. That didn’t happen.

Then Oxford University Press was supposed to publish volume 3 (P-S) in 2006 (then 2008), but it never happened as far as I can tell.

We simply called it “top the bat”.

But what did you call the game for picking teams?

I recall it as

Rochambeau

Did it involve Gibson, Eckersley, or Vin?

So I have a mini plan. Should I just suck it up and upgrade to season tickets. It seems like with the perks this year it would be worth it. Plus with new access I could just stroll down to the field level every night

Really depends on your availability to attend the games. If you can make it to 70+ games, I would say go for it.

mini plan is for 15 games. Season tickets are twice as much. So I would only need to attend 30+ to break even. I have a 3 and a half year old that loves to go, but we like to show up early and he suckers one of the players into giving him a ball every time. Problem is with a mini plan we would get nowhere near the field. With season tickets they would let us in early. Sounds like a no brainer but $500 is still $500

sell the games you can’t/don’t attend

or just find a partr and split them. keepyour 15 games, get all the perks

yeah partner backed out. I was going to do this. I just suspect this might be the last time season tickets are affordable

It will be, you should get the tickets, when they are in last place in Aug you will have no trouble sitting at the field level for every game.

But it does mean the resale value of the rest of the tickets starts to approach zero.

seems like that would be tough to do, without much demand for tickets to these games, no?

still would have to deal with DS’ notorious no seat hopping ushers

In the past they are easy, you probably just looked like you did not belong:)

you actually have had a problem with this? I have never had a problem as long as I don’t try to sneak into baseline box or something

well they have the people at the top of the row checking tickets, though I guess you can just walk past them if you’re Conny enough

they don’t bother me at all. Of course i have a little kid distraction. Or maybe it was because the ushers were as apathetic as the fans last year

IF this is true...Holy $hit
RT @JonHeymanCBS: LA billionaire Patrick SoonShiong (who bought magic’s 4.5% stake in lakers), will likely join johnson-kasten dodgers group

We have a clear winner

I’ve been wondering why he was not into this party

That is a rock solid group, it seems.

The guy who a few months ago said he didn’t like baseball all that much?

yeah, well, the Tigers were definitely not signing Prince Fielder, so.. we know how that goes. ;)

the Tigers GM said they were out on Fielder (and were) until Victor Martinez went down. This guy was asked months ago if he was interested in buying the Dodgers and he basically said “no, I like basketball”.

That said, there’s a lot of ammo in that 3 gauge

no the tigers gm said that 6 days ago

victor went down 8 days ago. I think I have the timeline righ there.

two days after he went down they could have still been out

course, i’m likely wrong here.

doesn’t change the fact that he’s being broht in for his money, and if only his money is being invested, all he’s going to care about is his money.

Magic and Kasten I’m behind.

entirely too much credence is put into what people say in public around here

Especially since what people say in public is largely scripted by assholes like me.

for a purpose

only fools and madmen say something in public without a purpose

color me a madman

sometimes a spade is a spade

most often a spade is a dirty liar

thatsracist.gif

or a guy with movies not worth seeing unless they also involve Chris Farley.

Spade the Owen Wilson of his time

and Dana Carter before him

Just Shoot Me is still one of my favorite shows

you don’t need to like baseball to like making money

and like to be the swinging dick in LA

Probably a billion different things you can do with a billion dollars to make more money then purchase a sports franchise.

think of the prestige!

its like collecting art, its a rare item.

Yes, as HJ said the big dick in the room has lots of appeal but lets not equate investing a billion dollars as a money making scheme compared to other things he can do with that billion dollars.

I would argue he won't lose money on it

but I won’t go past that.

It’s no trick to make a lot of money if all you want to do is make a lot of money.

I endorse this.

this is michael jordan doing a ballet move

http://www.nba.com/jordan/hoop_mjonmj.html

It’s like my logo. I wasn’t even dunking on that one. People think that I was. I just stood on the floor, jumped up and spread my legs and they took the picture. I wasn’t even running. Everyone thought I did that by running and taking off. Actually, it was a ballet move where I jumped up and spread my legs. And I was holding the ball in my left hand.

I could have sworn there is video of the photo shoot of that pose/logo all the way back in Come Fly With Me.

Come Fly With Me is a pretty amazing NBA video, right up there with the 1980s classics Dazzling Dunks and Basketball Bloopers, Superstars, The Drive For Five, Back To Back, and eventually Always Showtime.

Oh yeah, there was also Awesome Endings.

[insert joke here]

There’s more than joke insertion going on.

the more he talks

the less he plays

the less likable he becomes

Something I didn't know

in 1992, the Clippers were considering a logo change. True story:

The Houston Logo Changes

The Houston ®s

The Houston Belles

nothing wrong with

The Houston Clippers

if the shoe fits

Houston Whalers

Best thing about the Whalers logo

is the negative-space H:

and upside-down mustache.

The Houston 69ers

Houston 68’ers and I’ll owe her one later

like those test they use to give me

E {

when turned sideways.

that looks like 1992

heard they were turning the corner then

The Houston Corner Turners

The Houston Turned Corner

I imagine the jersey would have looked like the Vancouver Grizzlies

No one cares

you don’t even find this mildly interesting what if stuff?

nope

what about the Clippers wearing LA Stars throwbacks this year?

Delias might, but it is coin flip

working hard, semi-call back

I see you

it's more interesting than video games or UFC
and really

were you even alive to know?

I would have been seven, so not really. Apparently it was official enough to make it into some style guides, but they scrapped plans before the season started.

How bad would Dwight Howard have kicked the hell out of Jermaine O’Neal last night if shit really broke bad?

Breaking bad will get you 5-10

first “throw hands”

now “broke bad”

dude – you are the best

I’m just the generic version of you HJ

Costs way less, tastes a little worse but still totally worth it.

plus I’m made with real bits of panther so you know it’s good

I'm not going to lie to you

You smell like pure gasoline

VeroJoe is the Miguel Cabrera to HollywoodJoe's Albert Pujols
Gamblers

have been using Breaking Bad for decades

Question on Frank's Parking Lots:

Do you think any of the groups are bidding with the thought that they will be leasing those lots from McCourt?

Seems like part of the communication process right now would include, “OK Frank, what’s your price for those lots?”

The Houston Speculators

I want to believe that billionaires want the land/lots included and don’t want to be renting them back from Frank.

shit broke bad = throw hand (for Eric)

Houston Hand Throwers
vs
Houston Shit Breakers

who wins?

What is the record for errors by an infield? And what are the odds that the 2012 Tigers beat the record?

I wish Baseball-Reference had a play index for fielding stats.

The 2010 Nationals made 88 errors in the infield. Just to pick a recent high-error fielding team.

that team gave us a couple games.

I doubt they make many errors but an infield of
Fielder / Rabun / Peralta / Miggy might have the smallest range of any team I can remember. This is based on visual and does not include any range metrics in the computation of them comment that was just completed before I started this sentence.

I know somehow

this would be related to FIP or something like that.

Based on visual = you seeing how fat Miggy and Fielder are, right?

Wait until you see who takes the field at the softball tournament.

What position did Jon have you listed at?

He has me in RF.

Sounds like our OF is stacked then. :)
You got arm?

I used to. I have the ratchet thing going on in my shoulder now. I moved over to 2B in hardball because my throws from SS wouldn’t reach in the later innings. I’m still a rangy outfielder, so if he’s going to keep me in the OF, I’ll see if I could play one of the middle OF positions.

You are going down. And you are going down hard.

You’re a lefty with pop?

i am a righty with slap

in general, i just meant your team

Jeez

Facebook material for their team page

HAHA

“Right with slap” … that’s awesome.

Other than Xeifrank, I don’t know anyone else on the DT team. I’m not even sure I can gauge what DT’s demographic is, so I will not be so bold as to rebuke your statement.

Did you have any tokens left over from the team pizza party?

David is a solid ballplayer. What he is best at, however, is getting very mad when he pops up. :)

That happens in like half the at-bats in slow pitch, no? People trying to jack the ball… oops pop up.

People trying to jack the ball… oops pop up.

/snicker

and when he strikes out, from what i remember.

So this wounded knee business in your title - does it refer to this

Wounded Knee

or this

my mind is reeling

yes

Eric, how long does it take you to get from home to games, and vice versa? Seems like a long time, love the commitment though.

He spends the weekends at various TBLA member houses. That is part of the package when you became a member.

hell yeah!! I’ll have Eric over on a friday, show him how the valley do it baby…. I know you dont smoke weed, I know this, but im gonna get you high today. Its Friday, you got a Free Lance job, and you aint got shit to do!

I’m starting to picture you as the crazy guy in hangover

I could really see that

Or Jeff Spicoli in FT@RH

nah, not Jeff Spicoli because I dont get high THAT often. I never do it before work, and he would.

but you did order pizza while in class

How did you get fired on your day off?

Thanks man

It used to take me 90 minutes door to door to an from games, without traffic, but I would bunch up the weekends to do 2-3 games at a time, either staying at my cousin’s apartment or with friends.

I will be moving to Pasadena for the season though.

The hunt for silverwidow turned really serious apparently.

That's my freelance gig

Mike and Delia’s Man hired me to do the leg work.

it all makes sense now

Does your cousin read this?

He can’t read

I will have to hire you now

to work for my company JB Surveillance just so it is legit. We have been in business since 1995.

All the FBI knows of JB Surveillance is an empty office suite in Chino with one single working phone line, and no copper wires in the entire building.

Is the side project to find Tommy Blackjack

I believe some torture with Dr Pepper is on the docket.

Pasadena? Nice. You can bunk up with Bob T and his newish bride. Bob likes cats though.

I thought they took up connubial residence elsewhere.

But Eric can babysit for robotmadeofnails now.

welcome back to civilization
Curious

Is $8 a stiff price for a pastrami by itself?

Not if it is a good one. Heck, Subway charged me almost that much and their sandwich was barely edible due to all the fat in the meat. /NeverAgain

Langers – $12.95
Canters – $11.75
The Hat – $7.79
Johnnies Pastrami – $10.50
Marios (Glendale) – $6.95

The Hat – $7.79

worth it

The hat is good, only one I know of is in Simi Valley. Next time I go I must try that huge ass plate of chili cheese fries someone posted here the other day.

gravy fries are good too

I magically ended up living just down the street from the only one within an hours drive of me

Wet Fries are the greatest!

Impressive

My Pastrami Pizza at Uncle Ernie’s was 8.16 with tax

Lucky Boy

also sells a pretty good pastrami sandwich for $7.05 (BTW, never knew that so many places now have websites and menus posted).

It is well documented that taller people are happier and make more money then shorter people but we do have some advantages

Another advantage of smaller people is that they are less likely to die in auto crashes. One study found that people weighing less than 132 pounds had the lowest risk of dying or suffering serious injuries compared to bigger people.

Probably because they make us sit in kid seats now.

We may be poor and depressed but at least we get more time on earth to be poor and depressed.

WIN WIN

Ah, that’s what that movie was about.

The only loser in that movie was the tall guy:)

yeah, Thats because you guys sit in a car seat, duh!!

oops, you said that already, duh me.

All you have to do is make a pact with the devil. It worked for Tom Cruise…he’s not exactly tall.

I never knew people in shows and movies were short as fuck for the longest time… Id say thats the biggest advantage… no wonder I cant get no role.

I'm 5' 9"

and I towered over Paul Newman when I stood next to him

Marky Mark is 5'7'' as well

He’s doin alright

Did you know that Mark Walberg was an original member of the New Kids on the Block but then quit the group before they hit it big because of their bubble gum pop image?

Now you know…and knowing is half the battle

ofcourse I know… wasnt his bro in that group too?? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, just hangin’ tough

You’ve got the right stuff Chris

It makes sense since his brother Donny was in the band

I knew Mark was an underwear model thanks to I Love The 90s, lol

tall people can see the train coming

So is Miggy going to 3B

I saw some stuff about it, but I wasn’t sure what the verdict was.

Likely will get a look

in spring training. But even he does play 3B, I can’t believe it will be “that” much. Inge probably still starts half the games there, no?

he can play 1st when fielder dh's

and dh when they went to get inge in there I guess

Right

Three main scenarios
1. 1B-Fielder, 3B-Cabrera, DH-Someone
2. 1B-Fielder, 3B-Inge, DH-Cabrera
3. 1B-Cabrera, 3B-Inge, DH-Fielder

I guess after watching Boom Boom play 3rd the idea of Miggy playing 3rd does not hurt as much

I'm not sure Inge gets half the games though

maybe a 1/4, possibly more. Maybe Leyland can get them to be happy about DHing a lot though.

Is Inge still a good fielder?

It is all he has

yeah he can't hit anything anymore

was he ever a good CF? What an athlete he must have been(and I guess still is) before those back injuries.

Inge

will definitely play 3B when Fister pitches and anybody else with heavy groundball tendancies.

If he gets -- ahem -- cut

Will he be the Angry Inge?

Thank you, I’ll take my answer off the air.

I’ll send the answer by my owl.

The Houston Hooters

That movie

nevermind

Saw the show off-off-Broadway before it was a movie. Had no idea what to expect. Thought it was great. Still listen to the cast recording sometimes.

Find out Google’s prediction on your age and gender as well as what interests you have! Based on search activity, I believe.

It gets me well, says I’m a 25-34 year old male. Though it says one of my interests is cats which is, well, not even close to true.

Link doesn’t work for me. Looks like a link to an ad that fails to load.

no interest categories for me
No interest or demographic categories are associated with your ads preferences so far.

I’m guessing my firewall probably makes every search from my plant site look like one user.

and they all like porn and hooker sites

Just the (plethora of) vice presidents.

oh yeah once I leave incognito mode

I get different stuff. Apparently I’m into accounting and auditing. Must be tax season.

According to them I am also a 25 – 34 year old male

Google has me pegged
Arts & Entertainment
Arts & Entertainment – Movies
Games – Board Games
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News – Sports News
Reference – General Reference – Calculators & Reference Tools
Shopping – Apparel – Clothing Accessories – Watches
Sports – Team Sports – Baseball
World Localities – North America – USA – California – Southern California – Los Angeles
World Localities – North America – USA – Pacific Northwest – Washington State – Seattle-Tacoma

Seattle – Tacoma came up because I read Dan Savage’s blog at The Stranger a lot.

Mine's pretty close

Arts & Entertainment
Arts & Entertainment – TV & Video – TV Shows & Programs
Computers & Electronics – Consumer Electronics – Game Systems & Consoles – Sony PlayStation
Food & Drink – Cooking & Recipes
Food & Drink – Cooking & Recipes – World Cuisines – Asian Cuisine
Games – Computer & Video Games
News – Politics
Sports – Team Sports – Baseball
Travel – Cruises & Charters
World Localities – North America – USA – California – Southern California – Los Angeles

They think I like Cruises because I was searching for the tipped over boat

I guess I should post mine.
Arts & Entertainment
Arts & Entertainment – Comics & Animation – Comics
Arts & Entertainment – Music & Audio – Radio
News – Politics
News – Politics – Campaigns & Elections
Online Communities
Online Communities – Forum & Chat Providers
Pets & Animals – Pets – Cats
Sports – Team Sports – American Football
World Localities – North America – USA – Southwest (USA) – New Mexico

The comics one is because I read a lot of webcomics. I have no explanation for the cat one, other than I linked to this story once.

Eric's

Pets & Animals – Pets – Cats – Beheading
Pets & Animals – Pets – Cats – Death
Pets & Animals – Pets – Cats – Murder

Computers & Electronics – Programming – Java
Finance – Accounting & Auditing
Internet & Telecom – Web Apps & Online Tools
Sports – Team Sports – Baseball
World Localities – North America – USA – California – Southern California – Los Angeles

It didn’t list

Home Decor – Basements
?

I haven't finished digging it yet
Says 18-24 Male then these incredibly correct categories
Your categories
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I was not impressed with the two contestants last night on Baseball IQ. I think I could have done better, and I’m not exactly a baseball trivia whiz. These guys were statistical analysts for the Mets and Philles!

I mean, they couldn’t even name the top SF Giants in terms of games played other than the obvious ones (McCovey, Mays, Bonds) since the Giants moved west?

How many here can name 7 of the top 20, say, Baltimore Orioles in games played since 1960?

Brooks
Blair
Buford
Ripkin
Powell

For my quick five

Aparichio
Belanger

sounds good

I was talking to the TV last night. Speier! Aurilia! Will F’ing Clark!

I was just going to say “They were Orioles” when I realized you were back to the Giants

Probably easier for Dodger fans to do the Giants than anyone other then Giant fans

Understandably

That was why I threw out the Orioles here for Dodger fans. I’m thinking if you follow baseball like us, much less WORK in baseball as an ANALYST, it wouldn’t be too hard. Maybe they just froze under the hot lights.

One ex Dodger on the Oriole list I would not have expected

Rick Dempsey?

Dempsey is on it but Mike Devereaux was the surprise to me

I’m disappointed I did not think of Rafy, Singleton, and Anderson. Those should have been gimmies.

x

Player G From To OPS Pos
Cal Ripken 3001 1981 2001 .788 *65/D
Brooks Robinson 2592 1960 1977 .732 *5/46
Mark Belanger 1962 1965 1981 .580 *6/45
Eddie Murray 1884 1977 1996 .868 *3D/75
Boog Powell 1763 1961 1974 .826 *37/D9
Brady Anderson 1759 1988 2001 .794 *879/D
Paul Blair 1700 1964 1976 .694 *8/5D7
Ken Singleton 1446 1975 1984 .833 *9D/7
Al Bumbry 1428 1972 1984 .725 *87D/9
Melvin Mora 1256 2000 2009 .793 *5687/49D3
Rick Dempsey 1245 1976 1992 .674 *2/973D
Brian Roberts 1233 2001 2011 .769 *4/6D
Rich Dauer 1140 1976 1985 .653 *45/D3
B.J. Surhoff 1001 1996 2005 .792 *75/D93
Rafael Palmeiro 1000 1994 2005 .886 *3/D
Davey Johnson 995 1965 1972 .709 *4/65
Nick Markakis 946 2006 2011 .818 *9/783D
Chris Hoiles 894 1989 1998 .833 *2/D35
Mike Devereaux 878 1989 1996 .711 *8/97D
Doug DeCinces 858 1973 1981 .751 *5/463D7
Gary Roenicke 850 1978 1985 .803 *798/D35

Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 1/25/2012.

Devereaux didn’t come to my mind Phil, but I swear I knew he was a Dodger because of a card of his I had way back in the day. Does anyone remember the baseball board game called “Classic” it came with a ton of baseball cards. That’s how I I new Devereaux played for our Dodgers.

I had those cards, and never considered playing the game that they were for.

Dodger fans couldn’t even name all of the players who had played 10 friggin’ years for the team since they moved west.

I thought you all did pretty good

Uh-oh

trivia chat in …. three…… two…… one……..

Baseball trivia isn't acceptable to you either?

WTF?

Where did I say that it was not

acceptable? WTMF?

maybe Uh-Oh?

it was just

a fucking joke. Too fucking sensitive. LOL

You have a history of complaining not of being funny

Take it to the dog sledding thread!

Sorry

for the cussing and if that came off harsh guys. Was channelling my inner Luther Campbell.

fuck you you fucking fuck no fucking cussing is allowed on this fucking blog.

The first rule of TBLA is there is no fucking rule one.

heavy petting is ok though

right?

that’s a BAD TOUCH Nolander!

The first rule of TBLA is

Fuck You

I guess the change in my pocket wasn’t enough

hahaha love it… you’re one cool dude Marty, all 5 feet 7 inches on you.

Almost had to send you back Dodger Thoughts school for some reprogramming

better than watches
nobody answering Koufax in the Perfect game question

killed me

they answered Mike Witt though!

@tvsportsratings:

NFL Net’s replay of NE/BAL had larger audience than live NHL on NBCS: 202k vs. 190k

Does anyone know

if you can buy episodes of the NFLs SoundFX show on DVD or blu ray? Man I woudl pay a lot of money for some of the footage they have

Nope

it appears they just archive stuff on their site that you can watch for free

I hate their video player and commercials though

alas! They should take all their good clips of ref player interactions and put them in one place. Love that stuff.

Chuck Pagano is the new coach of the Colts

goodbye cover 2, I’m going to miss their run defense being a joke.

defense is now king

Kinda wish Raiders got this guy.

Have a great night everyone!

Houston Clap (FTMFW)

Houston 5-clap

clap clap, clap clap clap

The Houston Chancres

Anyone - first Dodger question

Los Angeles Dodgers @Dodgers

Cy Young winner Clayton Kershaw went 5-0 against SF in 2011, who was the last Dodger pitcher to go 5-0 in a season vs. Giants? #ThinkBluman

no idea

guesses Orel Hershiser.

I'm gonna say

Kaz Ishii. Why not?

key words omission

Los Angeles

Why not?

Because it’s Kaz fucking Ishii, that’s why not

Are we going back before LA?

Yes, it wasnt an LA Dodger.

oh, it was an LA Dodger?

Sal Maglie
Don Newcombe

Johnny Podres

Dazzy Vance

Vic Lombardi

Bingo

that is correct.

I saw your comment

Crap. I was really hoping for Van Lingle Mungo.

For this one, yes

I would imagine for the contest on TV, probably but they have 50+ years to cover so maybe not.

The answer

is Brooklyn’s Vic Lombardi in 1946, he went 5-0 against the New York Giants.

lol how come all trivia is always way before my time?? I cant wait til im 60-70 years old so I can play.

Because if he asked questions about last year everyone would get it.

Who won the Cy Young last year?

Ooh, ooh, I know this one. Van Lingle Mungo?

Which Dodger hunts heaters?

Shit, which one doesn’t?

Alternate answer:

Amen, Sailor!

haha I never said it had to be last year… could be 80s stuff though, even 90s

What Dodger threw a no – hitter at Coors

Nomo BAM! See, that was FUN! haha Yeah I should know more trivia I guess.

I’m your age and I love this stuff. Eric too. I mean Eric is your age and loves this stuff. Not that I love Eric. Even though I do, not that there’s anything wrong with that. Erm, check please?

How many total bases did Shawn Green have in his four home run game against the Brewers?

What Dodger pitcher had one of the best names in baseball history?

Van Lingle Mungo?

I always liked Luke Prokopec, even if it isn’t VLM-level

When Steve Finley hit that GS vs the Giants to clinch the NL west in 04, what 3 Dodgers were on base??

werth izturis and the pinch hitter
The final Dodgers.com question

Which two players (one inducted as a Giant, the other as a Dodger) played their last games for the other club.

Snider
Marichal

I believe

that is correct

Technically

you could accept Hoyt Wilhelm too because his HOF plaque shows him wearing a NY Giants cap, he retired in 1972 as a Dodger.

Juan Marichal, Duke Snider.

Van Lingle Mungo

Who was born and died in Pageland, South Carolina

Quote of the day
The first rule of TBLA is

Fuck You

It’s gettin’ so a businessman can’t expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can’t trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 2:07 PM PST up reply loading… Story-flag Flag 1
Okay

name the last 8 Dodger Rookie of the Years and list the year they won the award, will only accept answers with all 8 listed go.

96 Hollandsworth
95 Nomo
94 Mondesi
93 Piazza
92 Karros
82 Sax
81 Valenzuela
80 Howe

well done

actually forgot there were 5 in the 90s. So I was thinking of 1979 with Sutcliffe.

I almost put him as a bonus :)

That sounds like work.

1965 Frenchy
1969 Sizemore

How in the hell did Lefebvre win over Joe Morgan that year?

Not enough cowbell.

Also, RBIs, Pennants.

I thought about RBIs, but Joe scored 100 runs!

Plashcke

had a column today begging for a Kershaw extension. Finally something that makes sense.

Never forget
Don’t write Kemp’s name in ink in lineup
September 26, 2007|Bill Plaschke

The kid gloves are off.

After watching their youth movement crash and burn against a wall of reality last week, the Dodgers are quietly mulling a slight change of direction.

The kids are no longer untouchable.

At least one of those kids could be the centerpiece in a winter trade that could bring the team a badly needed veteran star.

That kid could be Matt Kemp…….

That’s not fair we have all said stupid things. The problem with Plashke is two fold

He says ALOT of stupid things
His quest to smear Depodesta

Also, he says a lot of stupid things in one-sentence paragraphs.

That’s not Plaschke’s worst offense, actually. That was the Sasha Cohen column, which was simply horrible. But I hated this one.

Might be the worst ending in journalist history:

If the Dodgers can get zinged, so can Sasha Cohen, and she deserved it Thursday night.

She didn’t want to be there.

She didn’t want to be there?

um, screw that

that gets you shot

In my island nation, he would have been tarred and feathered for that Cohen column

Picturing you as Fat Brando right now.

and he gets to do it from very visible platforms.

Cespedes officially a FA

and Jim Bowden says the likely players are…

1. Cubs 2. Marlins 3. Orioles 4. White Sox
75% chance he won’t have a chance to make the playoffs in 2012.

Saw Xeifrank on Yahoo

On the Yahoo Baidu Message Board. Was that you? Too bad about what they were saying about you… Just kidding..

no tengo le menor idea.

That’s scary that there are two of you

Cespedes is a Top 30 prospect and Zach Lee is our #1 prospect. How much do you think Zach Lee would get as a free agent if he were one today? Same question for Bryce Harper who is likely #1 overall?

Harper 6/90
Lee 5/10

Being 19 years old I think Lee would get more than that. If anything he’d get a simlar contract to Longoria, perhaps without the options.

Lee gets 2 years at 5mil. why risk 5 years of contract on someone who can’t get out Lo-A hitters? If you’re talking free agent contracts, you are expecting them to step in now, and that simply isn’t the case yet with Lee. Harper could easily get a 10 year deal.

I think Harper would only want a 5 year deal. It sets him up nicely for the bigger pay day in his prime while giving him a serious check for the next six years.

Harper might be one of the very select handful of guys (Lincecum, Howard being the others) who have arbitration help them out.

So… Cespedes splits the difference? 6/50 ish?

Have to remember Charley Finley here

A lot of these FA values are inflated because these are very unique, major league ready or nearly major league ready players and the supply of them is very limited.

If Lee were a free agent, he would get a lot if he was the only pitcher like him available. But if there were say 10 or 15 19-20 year old pitchers with similar pedigrees the prices would go down.

Baseball America A's Top 10

Cahill and Gio got them 50 percent of this list.

The A’s top six prospects’ names are all English words:

Parker, Peacock, Gray, Cole, Choice, Green.

Colorless green ideas sleep furiously.

Yeah, well, just wait until the baby comes. They’ll be up all night.

Hootie and the Blowfish

I had no idea they ripped off Bob Dylan during “Only Want to Be With You”

If you cite Dylan, is it really a rip off?

Case in point: Sam Fuller and Jean-Luc Godard are at the Cannes Film Festival. Fuller is drinking and drinking and drinking and he’s finally had enough and he goes up to Godard and says, “You French frog fuck, all you’ve done is rip me off your entire career.”

Godard says, “Een Eenglish, ‘reep off.’ En Francais, homage.”

edgar wright really wants to know the answer to this
Yeah I’m tangled up in blue
I only wanna be with you

Blatant thievery!

If we consider Bootie and the Hoefish music,

it’s called a musical allusion. Been done for centuries.

I have no problem calling Hootie and the Blowfish music

It’s totally non-substantive, and it pretty much sounds like four dudes just having some fun, but it also has no pretensions about being anything more than that.

Besides, Stephen Stills sang backups on “Hold My Hand”. Who am I to argue with Stephen Stills.

For what it’s worth, that was the first album I ever bought with my own money.

I do still enjoy Cracked Rear View.

I’ve never heard it, apart from the radio singles. I did inordinately like that one Counting Crows album with Mr. Jones on it tho . . .

My roommate freshman year played that album and the Gin Blossoms album all the time, since they were the only two he owned. I hate Counting Crows now.

Same here. Guilty as charged.

who didn’t?

Hell, I used to listen to Offspring so loud on the way to go surfing that I still hate myself for it

Me.

Also, you’ve gotta keep younger Joe and current Joe separated.

Give it to him baby!

It’s a bad habit.

I am large, I contain multitudes

there was also a period where I was convinced that surfing was the sporting manifestation of Jazz and would only listen to Parker, and Davis, and Baker, and Coltrane, and Monk on the way to the beach

and always Hendrix, and Lou Reed, and phase of way too much Clapton

and a fair amount of KUSC after getting out the water

but yeah, the offspring, a mistake. Just got me so damn pumped, would be bouncing in the car, loved the violence surging in my arms, felt like I was going to explode.

I surfed best on Jazz I think, but I got more waves on bad loud music

whatevs

The Offspring have some great songs. They have some terrible songs, but they also have some great ones.

I liked No Doubt too

Forgot about that

and still listen to Beck on airplanes. For me, Beck was made for traveling

No Doubt, Offspring. Are you sure you’re not from the OC?

I hate

No Doubt. I love Beck. Wilco is the best band in the world IMO

Beck sucks

With only that much to go on (Marty: I love Beck, nolander: Beck sucks), I would choose to listen to Beck.

I didn't know you where pretentious

Very much so, but I don’t know how you conclude that from my saying that with the lack of any evidence I would always choose Marty’s musical preference over yours.

Last Jeff Beck

concert I went to, I wondered out loud
how many people were here to see Beck.

More than thought they were seeing Jeff Buckley?

There were a lot of people looking sheepish, but nobody spoke up.

I still want to know if Beck ripped off Them.

What I got — Nothin’.

Yes, but I think they acknowledge it

it was done as an homage

Is

Beck a he or a they? I thought it was one dude.

he is the frontman I guess

I don’t know if any of the other members are static or just dudes he hires for albums and touring ala NIN

He plays all the instruments on the album, I believe. I think Reznor does the same thing.

Could be wrong, though.

from the wiki
the earliest Nine Inch Nails recordings, Reznor was unable to find a band that could articulate the material as he desired. Instead, inspired by Prince, Reznor played all the instruments except drums himself.14 This role remains Reznor’s on most of the band’s studio recordings, though he has occasionally involved other musicians and assistants
inspired by Prince

Like he was the first. Stevie Wonder put out a few phenomenal records in the 1970s where he used very few other musicians. McCartney’s first solo record (a mixed bag) was entirely himself.

that doesn't mean he was inspired by them

if he heard tha tprince did it and said “wow that sounds great!” It means he was inspired by Prince and in no way is a slight to anyone else.

For what it’s worth

Nicely done.

“Buffalo Springfield” or “Cracked Rear View”

Nice Springfield reference

Dylan

and Hootie and the Blowfish reached settlement regarding the unauthorized use of lyrics from Tangled Up in Blue in 1995.

oh

There must’ve been more than just that one line.

Link.

Hootie & the Blowfish reach an out-of-court settlement with Bob Dylan. The band had used a portion of Dylan’s lyrics in its hit “Only Wanna Be With You.”

Glad this is settled. Now is Mark Ellis really batting #2 for us or will D2X go outside the box and bat Loney there?

In 2014, the Dodgers reached an out-of-court settlement with Joe Torre over a dispute regarding batting crappy players second.

Laughing so hard that I can’t breathe.

More famously

George Harrison had to pay over $500K for his recording of “My Sweet Lord” sounding too similar to the Chiffons’ “He’s So Fine”

Other artists who have paid settlements for sound alike songs include:

The Doors, Led Zeppelin, Steely Dan and Janet Jackson.

I knew about all of those except Steely Dan.

Led Zeppelin was very good at taking old blues music and not crediting the blues musicians.

Like the Yardbirds:)

De La Soul and the Turtles had a beef.

Q Tip straight up iced Mark Volman to end that beef.

Did Vanilla Ice ever have to pay David Bowie?

I fucking love David Bowie

I could listen to Rebel, Rebel all day long.

Another karaoke number?

You should sing Young Americans

Only bowie I have on my ipod is Changes, Under Pressure (under Queen) and Young Americans. That’s not to say it’s the only Bowie I like.

I like the line “just you and your idol singing falsetto”.

Suffragette City

Reg did this at karaoke.

Really, he just moved up a notch

Musta been the night I missed out on.

“Panic in Detroit” is my fave.

Yes, and, I believe, give him credit on the song.

and Suge Knight

After Suge held Vanilla over the balcony.

i refuse to beleive that story

I heard he flipped a coin with his right hand while holding him with his left hand to decide his fate

i heard it was never really a coin flip, and that there was only one real choice.

and told him to “call it, friendo”?

“What’s the most you ever bet on a coin toss?”

I thought he sad lost not bet

You’re probably right. I do know he said the other guy had everything to gain.

The unwrapping plastic is the kicker in that scene. Also, “You don’t know what you’re talking about, do you?”

It was Queen featuring David Bowie.

Well yeah

but, so?

All five lads share the songwriting credit.

I like “My Sweet Lord”

I don’t have it like that, but I am glad he does

wah wah

I don’t need no wah wah

Didn’t know you guys spoke Peanuts adult

I think that is one of the most well produced songs of all time. Just love the way it is put together. Phil Spector may be a nut job that murdered a woman, but he did know how to produce a pop record.

which should get him a pass

because is unique but purty women in Hollywood are a dime a dozen

Just kidding
/uscchris

Put on a little Dylan…
Ain’t Bobby so cool…

One could argue it is homage and quoting more than rip off.

The whole damn verse uses Dylan lyrics (including some from Idiot Wind – “Said I shot a man named Grey, took his wife to Italy…”) and even named Dylan in the song.

I just heard that song (Idiot Wind) was about the media. I always thought it was about an ex-girlfriend.

I thought it was about a french fart my way

It’s about Bill Plaschke on Around the Horn.

easy fix

don’t listen to Hootie

I forgot all about them… are they still around, making new songs?

Only Hootie is left and he is forced to make commercials for Burger King as penance for his previous career lowlights.

I wonder if Hootie has ever seen the movie 24 Hour Party People, and if he has, when Steve Coogan says in that movie, “My epitaph will be, ‘He never sold out.’ I protected myself from ever having to sell out by having nothing to sell,” I wonder if Hootie thought, “Yeah, I’m going to do the exact opposite of that guy.”

Lifetime supply of Tendercrisp Bacon Cheddar Ranch, though.

Hootie is now a huge Country Star

And the country music industry is beside itself with joy. They’ve been looking for an African-American star forever.

Was Charlie Pride that long ago to be called forever?

old dude comment

and yes

Probably been a good 30-35 years since his heyday.

close to forever for me

I was thinking up to the mid-70s.
I also remember him being a baseball guy, which is cool.

Ex-Professional Baseball Player

Wiki
Though he also loved music, one of Pride’s life-long dreams was to become a professional baseball player. In 1952, he pitched for the Memphis Red Sox of the Negro American League. He pitched well, and, in 1953, he signed a contract with the Boise Yankees, the Class C farm team of the New York Yankees. During that season, an injury caused him to lose the “mustard” on his fastball, and he was sent to the Yankees’ Class D team in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin. Later that season, while in the Negro leagues with the Louisville Clippers, he and another player (Jesse Mitchell), were traded to the Birmingham Black Barons for a team bus. “Jesse and I may have the distinction of being the only players in history to be traded for a used motor vehicle,” Pride mused in his 1994 autobiography.4[dead link]

God bless Baseball-Reference, for at least having 7 innings and parts of other two years chronicled.

With a nickname of Turkey!

Houston Turkeys!

Charley is months shy of being the same age as my mother.

I didn’t realize he was still alive.

My mom loved him, and his Christmas album was a staple at the Stephen Compound growing up.

B-R has him as a year older than my mom. Discrepancy!

Because once you go black….

Come on, he doesn’t weight THAT much.

Pretty sure Darius Rucker has said, “I’m not Hootie”, it’s just a band name. BUT WTF DO THEY EXPECT? YOU NAME A BAND “X AND THE Y”, THE FRONT MAN IS X!

Blondie nods her head ;)

Alice Cooper and Marilyn Manson would say you don’t even need an “and the.”

Did you ever hear Alice Cooper interviewed on Fresh Air? It was amazing. The guy gave a completely laid-back, unpretentious interview.

This is for you to listen to once School’s Out

My dad loves his syndicated radio show.

No more Mr. Not-Nice Guy, I guess

I’m gonna sing that at karaoke one night.

I dig that the guy is a total golf nerd

Has like a 4 handicap or something, right?

I don’t know his exact handicap, but it is reportedly very low.

he now co-owns a restaurant in Arizona (?) with Randy Johnson. They sell a 2 foot hot dog called “The Big Unit”. When you order the Big Unit, sirens and lights go off and the waitress who brings it to you carries it to your table shouting BIG UNIT, BIG UNIT.

Adam Richman told me so.

FTFY
and the waitress who brings it to you in her mouth carries it to your table shouting MRPH, HPRM, PHRM.

This sounds like a Simpsons episode

Million dollar birthday fries!!

Called Cooperstown, right? Heard that Cooper eats there often and is nice to people who approach him.

Yep.

Phoenix

their web site. The real question is, it is worth a visit during Spring Training?

Probably yes for those lucky fuckers who will be there for six weeks.

I found a place to stay like 12 miles from CBR too. Very central.

Spring Training party at Eric’s!

You need an electric bike:)

It was on an episode of No Reservations (streaming on NetFlix. Episode is called US Southwest). Place looks bitchin. It’s a sports grill to the sports grilliest.

Sounds like a plan.

I saw Hootie at Stagecoach last year. He was good.

Like his voice, thought he could enunciate better (at least in the Hootie heyday). But not over-enunciate like that guy in Creed.

I always thought the start of the song sounds like the intro to “No Sugar Tonight” by Guess Who.

I always thought that the start of Beck’s “Devil’s Haircut” sounds like Them’s “I Can Only Give You Everything” with a key change.

Luckily Bob Seger could not sue himself for using the same chords over and over

John Fogerty was actually sued, accused of ripping himself off.

I think he won that case? (He was sued by the owner of the publishing rights to the CCR material, which was Saul Zaentz or his successors.)

Fogarty did some playing on the stand to demonstrate something or other. Now that would be cool jury duty.

That said, “The Old Man Down the Road” sure sounds a bit like “Run Through the Jungle”, which in turn does sound like a reworked “Green River”.

He was not able to argue that it is impossible to rip oneself off.

He took the stand with his guitar to show that “Old Man Down the Road” and “Run Through the Jungle” were constructed in a completely different manner.

Zaentz also sued Fogarty for defamation or slander or libel or something for the song “Zanz Kant Danz”, claiming it was clearly about him. Later editions of the album change the title (and maybe altered the vocal) to “Vanz Kant Danz”. I believe my brother still has the vinyl in original form. (He also bought the Lynryd Skynyrd “Street Survivors” album with the band in flames on the cover before the plane crash.)

According to this Fogerty won and eventually was even awarded attorney’s fees after the Supreme Court got involved on that issue.

I think that is called “diddling yourself”

the original nickleback?
I’m so bloody rich!
I own apartment buildings and shopping centers!
And I only know three chords!

Earache my eye! How would you like a butt-ache?

So Sick, Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle might be doing a comedy tour together. Hope it happens.

Rock is not funny... his jokes just SOUND funny

they way he says them.

I didn’t know that “So Sick” was a thing.

So Sick, I have dysentery.

/grandpa quotes

Once again with no numbers nor explanation

Forbes announced their list of the NBA Franchises worth the most money:

Lakers are No. 1 at $900M
Clippers are No. 20 at $324M

Looks like the Lakers have turned the corner.

I think DTD payed something like 12 Million

Jerry Buss paid $67.5M for the Lakers, AND the Kings, AND the Forum (which I assumed included the parking lots), and a ranch.

Best Bargain I ever had

George Steinbrenner. $30million.

I never saw George with a bevy of young skirts though.

Strangest thing – sorry for the long story. We had seats at the forum and we all knew where Jerry and the skirts were. He would send his people around and they invite the purty young things upto his area for fun dining and what not. We had a couple who knew this and we used to laugh about it. One game they brought their daughter who was home from college to the game. She got invited up and went. They were all excited that Jerry Buss had asked for their daughter! It was so strange, they knew the old fuck was going to fuck her that night and yet the idea that Jerry Buss was going to do the fucking was okay.

gross and disturbing

maybe they just thought she would hang and then slip out

before he slipped her the check

nobody rides for free

I imagine Jerry invited up more than left with him. He was old then and older now, he can’t fuck ’em all.

The hell he can’t.

I am sure Jerry shared with his friends, doesn’t seem like the kind of guy to bogart all the ass

I thought he paid something like $10 million

Touche
On January 3, 1973, Steinbrenner and minority partner Burke led a group of investors, which included Lester Crown, John DeLorean and Nelson Bunker Hunt, in purchasing the Yankees from CBS.11 For years, the selling price was reported to be $10 million. However, Steinbrenner later revealed that the deal included two parking garages that CBS had bought from the city, and soon after the deal closed, CBS bought back the garages for $1.2 million. The net cost to the group for the Yankees was therefore $8.8 million.12

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Steinbrenner

Is there always weird stuff about the parking??

Worst band that you will cop to listening to

We all know Eric’s, that chick band that he loves. What was yours?

and it has to be past the age of 13. Like I listened to shit in the late 70’s that I will not be held accountable for…

go!

the late 90s boy bands are in my ipod.

good charlotte
I was into simple plan for about... a week
limp bizkit

Their version of Faith is awesome.

I still like some of their older older older stuff

They just went tooo… hip hop pop

The best cover of Faith is by a British band called The Boy Least Likely To:

Link

Their version of Faith is terrible

Every version of Faith is terrible.

Except Eliza Dushku

i often talk about the difference between good/bad music and music that i like/dislike. i think Elton John is bad music but i like Elton John

No way something like “Tiny Dancer” is bad music.

Way Benny & the Jets is though

I was going to sing that at karaoke, just for Phil.

I don’t get the hatred though, that is such a harmless nothing song.

Don't hate it

just not any good

i guess i just think of his music as supremely uncool. yet, i love tiny dancer.

back in the day in 8th grade his music from his first album was as cool as it gets. By high school, not so much.

This song is amazing

It depends on which Elton John we’re talking about. The stuff that made Elton famous? Nothing wrong with that. Late-period Elton? Oy.

Stevie Wonder, same thing.

good call on this, for both artist

whatever happened to the Lionel Richie that sang Brick House? How do we go from that to “Hello?”

Brick House is still funkadelicious.

i think that goes without saying. i generally assume that most pop musicians later output is terrible, especially wjen their career lasts longer than a decade

Except The Kinks. 60s British Invasion group? 80s stadium rockers? I’ll take ’em all.

what if you transition from teen group pop to solo teen pop to adult hip-pop like JT

i said generally. of course there are exceptions. however, i dont see the kinks as one

i hate when people take one example who is above and beyond the norm and use it as evidence against generalities.

However, in this case, I was just curious of your opinion.

im completely ambivalent towards Justin Timberlake’s entire careering

damn autocorrect

didn't JT write most of NSYNC's songs?

which would make sense why he is the only one to actually have a career afterwords

i strongly doubt that any member of that had significant contributions to the composition of their songs

that was my thought as well.

“Here kids, sing ‘Yeah’ into this microphone 40 times in 3 minutes. It’s hit!”

styx

I love Styx

I love them too

but something about them makes me want to say they are bad music

Because they are

The one thing I give Styx is music like theirs pushed me into punk rock

I’m surprised there hasn’t been a stage musical based on the music of Styx yet.

Every Styx concert ever is a stage musical.

hahaha

i love this

The Cars
Boy George
Romeo Void

god do I love the Cars – still do

I knew better than Boy George

I also still love The Cars. Those songs are little 3 1/2 minute power pop masterpieces.

The Cars are bad, I dont’ want to be good. Or something like that.

Peter Cetera

His solo stuff? You really are scraping bottom there.

I was thinking of Hard to Say I’m Sorry and You’re the Inspiration, but those are both Chicago songs. So I retract my Cetera choice.

He did one song with Amy Grant, and Glory of Love. That’s all I can remember solo.

I’m back on board for Glory of Love alone.

He did that hilarious duet with

Cher, where he was singing higher than her.

The Bangles

They were cool

when they were The Bangs

hmmm

Bands is hard, I listen to 80s music :)

Artists? Probably Kelly Clarkson, and its only 2 or 3 songs I actually have on my itunes.

same thing – band, musician

I will still listen to my way overly pretentious Emerson, Lake and Palmer records.

I can hear Marty retching from here.

Brain Salad Surgery

ugh

Album has one of the worst lyrics ever
Every day a little sadder
A little madder
Someone get me a ladder

Well, it rhymed.

haha thats some fred durst shit right there
And now I'm old and fatter

The Houston aww fuck it

The Houston We Got A Problem

Any song

On Pictures at an Exhibition if great.

I prefer Hut on Fowl Legs to Great Gate of Kiev. Or are we not talking Mussorgsky?

ELP

put out a live record of them playing their version of Mussorgsky. It is pretty damn pretentious. I played it a lot in the mid-70s. I once used elementary electronic chips on a breadboard to have it play the melody line of Promenade. Lame.

that's ok

I really liked The Moody Blues and even went to see them at the Hollywood Bowl when they had all passed their expiration date

Weird lineup choices

I saw Stevie Ray Vaughan for the first time at the Forum. Backup band for The Moody Blues.

Living Colour
Guns n’ Roses
Rolling Stones

I got so wasted during that show that I passed out twice

A friend of mine reported back from this Coliseum concert:

Rolling Stones
J. Geils Band
[some other act]
Prince

He thought Prince was great and was stunned he got booed off the stage. He was also surprised how much the J. Geils Band sucked. But their front man was boning Kathleen Turner in her prime years, so there’s that.

How can you be surprised how much J. Geils Band sucks. My blood runs cold just thinking about them

Hey, they may make your list for me

Geils stinks. Yeah, yeah.

I was there!

Bet you didn’t boo Prince.

Nope

That’s who I wanted to see most. That was like 1980, and the Stones were already past it for 5 years

I was a huge Prince

fan up until Purple Rain

yeah, that’s about par

Among the post-Purple Rain stuff

I like the Sign o’ the Times album.

end of the Stones

I was too young to know what I was singing, but I loved “Miss You” so much when it came out that I can today sing that whole song word for word

Sticky Fingers

was the first album I bought

People think I’m Crazz zy

What’s a matter witchu boy?

good stuff

I think the Stones, while not my favorite band of all time, and the greatest band of all time

I was tempted to boo Coldplay at some KCRW concert, but was scared I would be trampled by all the grey haired ponytails

so I sat on my hands miserable

the band for that night was this Mexican rocker group called Café Tacuba. Check them out

Alan Parsons Project are a bit of a guilty pleasure for me.

I wouldn’t want to be like you.

I knew that. I can read your mind.

Erasure

[Checks iPhone]

[has 3 Erasure songs]

That’s showing them a little respect.

I really liked Pearl Jam when I was 18-22

Now I am a different person

How I feel about Rage Against the Machine.

But I’ll still crank it whenever I heard it on the radio.

…in high school.

Alive is my second favorite song to sing on Rock Band, behind Everlong by the Foo Fighters.

i know exactly how you feel. i loved pearl jam wjen i was 13 and i don’t really dislike them now, but im pretty far from a fan

yeah – I can still listen to Nirvana, but the sound of Pearl Jam makes me want change the station

Music I heard for the first time that I said wow
Hendrix
Bowie
Sparks
Bruce Springsteen
Dire Straits
X
Nirvana

Sparks didn’t do it for me – but I think I saw them about 1000 times at Magic Mountain

I’ll always remember the riff from “this town isn’t big enough for the both of us”. The songs that became hits were passable but the second album from the song above was something I’d never heard before. I don’t think any song from that album was played on the radio. By the time they became big I’d moved on, but still love that one album. Or maybe not, have not heard it in 25 years.

Sparks played my high school (grades 7-12) c. 1973 or 1974? – somehow I missed that.

the rest of your list lines up with me

I also love The Doors – which I know Marty, but it hit the spoke for me

These days have a bunch of electronica on my Ipod, things like Shirley Bassey re-mixes and Thievery Corporation and other stuff I bought because I heard it on Jason Bentley and was so surprised how much I loved it. That music for me is traveling and driving

God, did I love Dire Straits for a while

and Nirvana was so fresh when I was done with everything

Hell, you know who I like. I like Jack White and every thing he does. His album with Loretta Lynn might be one of my top 5 of all time.

Dire Straits

The Mark Knopfler can really handle that fucking axe.

And wrote a perfect soundtrack to The Princess bride.

Trying to decide if Spawn is old enough for this movie. Scary stuff that I can remember are the screaming eels, the ROUSes, and Wesley dying (well, almost dying). I dunno if she can handle that stuff.

I won’t even tell her the name of the movie, though. All I would have to say would be the words “Princess” and “Bride” and she would be all in.

I got about 2/3 of the way through reading the book with my 4-year-old (cleaning it up some along the way), little bits every night, then he asked me to stop. I think the idea of Count Rugen “being mean” to Westley was too much for him.

Not everyone can be Peter Falk

You know you want

to hear her say, “My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father. Prepare to die.”

But probably not “INCONCEIVABLE”

That was my kid’s favorite part.

A few months ago at LA County Art Museum

they did a reading of The Princess Bride script:

The players were:

Paul Rudd as Westley (originally played by Cary Ewes)
Mindy Kaling as Buttercup (Robin Wright)
Cary Elwes as Prince Humperdinck (Chris Sarandon)
Nick Kroll as Count Rugen (Christopher Guest)
Patton Oswalt as Vizzini (Wallace Shawn)
Bill Fagerbakke as Fezzik (Andre the Giant)
Goran Višnjic as Inigo Montoya (Mandy Patinkin)
Kevin Pollack as Miracle Max (Billy Crystal)
Collette Wolfe as Valerie (Carol Kane)
Fred Savage as The Grandson (Fred Savage)
Rob Reiner as The Grandfather (Peter Falk)

One of the great things and unfortunate things is that this was not recorded so it was a singular performance at LACMA.

Mrs HJ does a mean

Marwhiage, oh Marwhiage

Zat bwessed eventuh, zat dweam wiffin a dweam

and wuv, twoo wuv, wiw fowwow woo fowevvah

I think

Mrs. HJ would enjoy watching “The Princess Bride” more than watching Lob City tonight.

Anybody want a peanut?

I didn’t find out about that til the day before. I was very sad to have missed it.

Yes

so I was I. They said that the crowd roared when Savage read the first line of the movie and that Rudd glanced at Ewes when he said “As you wish”

With you on the Loretta Lynn album

shit man, I might have to listen to it tonight

Watch the Lakers on mute, glass of wine and the Mrs feet in my hands, Loretta singing about the Little Red Shoes

I remember where I was when I first heard Sultans of Swing, Freebird, and that Kennedy had been shot.

I remember that for American Pie.

Me too with this one.

When a buddy got married in England, one evening close friends gathered in his parents’ back yard for dinner. At one point one of his parents’ friends took out a guitar and began playing. Well, at one point, he started playing American Pie, and all of the parents’ friends groaned — not because they didn’t like the song, far from it, but because they could never finish it.

Well, we did it, and everybody else trailed off, but I got ’em through it and remembered all the words and got a standing O. It was a proud moment, for some reason.

Shorter then Coconut:)

You’re such a silly woman.

for sure

that song, along with Carly Simon’s “You’re so Vain” are the songs in my head from my earliest memories of our family camping trips

Lake Cachuma FTW

Did you get ticketed for peeing in Cachuma?

dude, you spying on me?

The Campgrounds

Up Los Osos Road are some of my favorites. Adding in a concert at the County Bowl makes for a great weekend.

I love it up there

trying to talk Mrs HJ into a 4 day Cachuma weekend, buying wine, grilling out, drinking said wine, camping

even promised a run into Solvang

She is on the fence

She’ll love it, of course, and demand to go there many more times.

that’s the plan

I also love Refugio down on the coast. Was a great place when I was a teenager. El Capitan pretty nice too

I bet it’s hard to get into Emma K Woods now. But there’s always Tin Can Beach, across the highway the the sand dune.

yeah – hard to get in everywhere these days.

I had a party at Emma Woods once that was the closest thing to a television commercial I have ever been in. We cut small holes in watermelons days before and soaked them with vodka, we had a bonfire, we danced all night long, girls in bikinis, skinny dipping, everything.

We didn’t even know we were going to stay there, we just knew we wanted to party at the beach, some how we talked out way into that park, night to remember.

I am saving that one in the memory banks, when I am old and done and in a bed where I just can’t move, I hope to go back to that party, walk around for a while, visit with my friends

Emma not the slut she once was?

I’ve camped El Capitan a few times, but never Refugio. Cachuma as a kid with the family once. Whole region is fantastic.

El Cap has better surf when the west swell comes in, but I think (or at least thought) that refugio was a prettier campground

For years now, almost all my camping has been at lakes where we can take the SeaDoo. I think the last place I camped that wasn’t like that was part of a summer vacation maybe 8 years ago that included camping in the coastal redwoods up near Crescent City, which was fabulous.

SO WHEN IS THE TBLA WEEKEND CAMP OUT?

that would be fun

Vin Scully on the radio while camping is about as good as being an american gets

Totally agree. Vinny painting the picture in one’s mind while gathered around the campfire pit.

About a hundred of us used to spend Easter Week at Refugio in the 70’s. Great place to camp. Did that seven years in a row-took over the whole campground. Set up our portable volleyball net on the grass by the restrooms. Did nothing but play volleyball, surf and drink beer.

sounds awesome

you ride a pin-tail single fin ride out of Free Ride or 5 Summer Stories?

Nope. 7’6" Weber Austrailia. We would take a day trip up to Jalama, or bring a boat and motor up to Hollister Ranch. The point at Refugio had to have a large north swell to be rideable.

You are the MAN

I have wanted to boat up to Hollister my whole life and it just never came together

Yeah, the swell window at Refugio is really small, so is El Cap, but when they go off they are great

Does Bobby know just how cool you are? Do sons every know? Because that is awesome stuff in a great time that you were into…

Damn – that must have been paradise then….

It was paradise.

Does any kid know how cool their parents were back in the day? Although, the other day Bobby said “It’s amazing how often you’re right about things.” I don’t know if he was buttering me up, or he was actually learning something.

The stories I've heard make my dad sound like a legitimate partier back in the day
I found video footage of you

iiidown at Easter

look for the cameo of Bobby

I cannot tell a lie. I like the shot at the seven-second mark.

I can only imagine a top gun like set up here, lol

Casitas was worse

I like singing Mick Jagger’s part.

My list would have to include Elvis Costello.

First 2 albums

are genius

yes

would probably need to add him to the list

Duran Duran, Men At Work, Furs

What about Frankie Goes to Hollywood?

Grass Roots for Office fans

Bad Music – Monkeys?

Maybe Sparks but not sure they are bad music

love the monkees, hate sparks. but i think the whole point of that band was “so bad it’s good” . hj had a good line about tjat phrase once, but i don’t remember it

neither do I!

Joe said:

so bad it’s good, is rarely good so bad it’s good, is usually just bad

that was it

The Beatles. Those guys suck!

Everyone Wang Chung Tonight - while I hated this song

I had a Wang Chung period

Loved “Dance Hall Days”

Rafael Betancourt signed an extension with the Rockies today. He was already under contract for…

2012: $4m
2013: $4.25m mutual buyout ($250,000 buyout)

Now it’s

2012: $4m
2013: $4.25m
2014: $4.5m mutual option ($250,000 buyout)

Also gets annual bonuses, per AP:

In 2012, $200,000 for 55 games finished

In 2013 and 2014…
$50,000 each for 40 and 45 games finished
$150,000 for 50
$200,000 for 55
$250,000 for 60

Ned gives 2 year deals

and the Rockies give extensions when they are absolutely under no pressure to do so.

Still think that in the past eight months, the Padre group has made better moves than all the other West teams combined.

no doubt.

Hell, they traded Mat Latos for Mat Latos, Yonder Alonso, Grandal and a bullpen piece.

That’s a hell of a trick.

#UnderusedAtBatSongs on Twitter.

That is all.

They sat together in the park
As the evening sky grew dark
She looked at him and he felt a spark
Tingle to his bones
‘Twas then he felt alone
And wished that he’d gone straight
And watched out for a simple twist of fate

Is that Hootie? :0

“You’re the Best Around”

—Andy LaRoche

Shhhh! That’s the joke!

[there’s no crying in baseball clip]
-James McDonald

This is what I used as my walk-up music when I got to pick last year. At least I think it is. I can’t check youtube from here.

What was it?

K’naan – Wavin’ Flag

/shrug

hopefully i’ll hear it again this season

My Own Worst Enemy by Lit.

So glad you are all gone

I can finally finish my work up!

Pat Sajak - Drinking through WOF

In “Wheel of Fortune’s” early format, Sajak found himself with two-and-a-half-hour dinner breaks while they changed up the prizes. So he and his right-hand woman Vanna White would go out to Los Arcos, a nearby Mexican restaurant in Burbank, for some margaritas.

“Vanna and I would go across and have two or three or six and then come and do the last shows and have trouble recognizing the alphabet. They’re really great tapes to get a hold of,” Sajak said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/25/pat-sajak-wheel-of-fortune-drunk_n_1232065.html

awesome

In that time frame I wouldn’t have minded knocking back a few tequilas with Vanna White, eh?

exactly

I have heard stories that she was a bit of a party girl back in the day

Enough for early years photos to end up in Playboy.

didn’t know that

of course you did

This was big news at the time!

Presented without irony
“I’m kind of happy,” [Ruben Amaro] said. "Really happy. Because if I would have had to put an 8- or 9-year deal on [Ryan] Howard’s deal right now, that would be a little disconcerting. Right now, we have Howard for the next 5 years. I kind of like that idea rather than having to do an 8- or 9- or 10-year deal.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20120125_Rich_Hofmann__Ruben_likes_Howard_pact_even_better_now.html
Howard's 5/$125M (avg 25/year) extenstion starts now

That’s for his age 32-36 years. Prince Fielder just signed through his age 36 season. 9/215 (avg >24/year), or so, right?

Ned signed Matt Kemp for 8/160 (avg 20/year) for ages 27-34.

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