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This could have happened much more often.
I don't know what was more unstable this offseason: the Dodgers' team-building plan or the ACL of Victor Martinez. It turns out that both cost the team one way or another.
First baseman Prince Fielder signed a nine-year deal with the Detroit Tigers that became official today, and news broke today that the Dodgers were heavily involved in the negotiations in recent weeks, per various reports (Jon Heyman of CBS Sports, Dylan Hernandez of the LA Times, and Tim Brown of Yahoo! Sports).
The Dodgers had a seven-year offer on the table, with an opt-out clause for Fielder, per Heyman:
The Dodgers' offer was said to have called for an average salary of about $26 million for the first four years and something in the low $20-million-range in the next three years. The bid was designed not to discourage Fielder from opting out and possibly moving to the American League where he could DH after the first four years. The total Dodgers deal was believed to have been worth in the low $160 millions.
I seriously don't understand this offseason. Every move made this winter by the Dodgers were the cumulative moves of a team desperately trying to add players with a small payout in 2012 with larger payouts in 2013 and beyond. The lack of money was cited as a reason for not re-signing Hiroki Kuroda, who ended up inking a deal with the New York Yankees for one year and $10 million.
Now all of a sudden the money was there for Fielder? It would have been nice to have that earlier in the offseason.
Maybe this explanation from Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports sheds some light:
One motivation for #Dodgers to get Prince was to boost short-term revenues. Team facing "huge revenue problem" in '12, one exec says.
Had Martinez not suffered the season-ending injury to his ACL, would the Tigers have offered nine years and $214 million to Fielder? I doubt it, but we'll never know.
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huge revenue problem? Awesome! I love problems. Wait…
Josie Becker - January 26, 2012
Yeah, that was nice to read. Sign moar players!
kinbote - January 26, 2012
La Potencia!
Tommy Blackjack - January 26, 2012 via iPhone app
Alonz y!
Josie Becker - January 26, 2012
Maybe “Hey guys, we totally tried to get Prince Fielder” can play first base.
Humma Kavula - January 26, 2012
just a newspaper with a baseball glove on top of it.
Josie Becker - January 26, 2012
Everyone with Dodger Stadium and LA food tips and tricks be sure to help out OB12 in his Fan Post about his upcoming first trip to Dodger Stadium.
Eric Stephen - January 26, 2012
I’m sure people smarter than me actually thought about this, but would signing Prince Fielder going to bring in more than 26 million in the short term?
Assuming we don’t make it to the playoffs (totally likely, we’re talking at most a four win difference between Prince and Loney) the Dodgers would need to sell 459,000* more tickets or 5,700 season tickets just to break even. Is Prince Fielder really that much of a draw that he’d be a short term revenue boost.
*This is based off the Fan Index for 2011 so this includes stuff like parking, food, and merchandise.
regfairfield - January 26, 2012
the four year deal was paid out as 10 20 24 30 with 24mil deferred over 2019-2021.
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
I just assumed that while the average salary might be $26m for the first four years, $16 million or so would be deferred
Eric Stephen - January 26, 2012
Makes sense.
regfairfield - January 26, 2012
I dont get how that stuff works… Having Fielder over Loney would only give us about 4 more wins?? Just doesnt sound right… but what do I know.
uschris0304 - January 26, 2012
Does that also measure what Fielder would of done for the hitters infront of him??
uschris0304 - January 26, 2012
4 wins is a ton
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
Matt Kemp, best player in the NL, was worth 9 wins last year, but that still wasn’t enough to make the Dodgers playoff bound
Josie Becker - January 26, 2012
4 more wins gives us 86, good for second place, a lower draft pick and the same number of playoff appearances.
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
one man does not a baseball team make
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
right, I understand that, but just seems whatever were projected to win now, adding Fielder would have increased that by more then 4 wins.
uschris0304 - January 26, 2012
Not that this is the way to do it, but the Dodgers’ pythag record last year was 84-77. or ~84.5 wins in a 162-game schedule. 88.5 wins is close enough to a playoff spot, especially if there would be an extra one in 2012, to be within striking distance around the trade deadline.
Eric Stephen - January 26, 2012
You also have to consider that some of those wins might come against other NL West teams
In play for the division.
Taylor Maricle - January 26, 2012
Like this is news about the revenue
1. Lower your season ticket prices but renewals still go down.
2. Same undervalued media rights deal.
3. I am assuming less corporate deals until new owner comes in.
4. Dodgers are doing their own merchandising sales (ended contract as part of bankruptcy)
5. Dodgers needed to at least two loans totaling over $180M last season to make payroll, pay other ongoing expenses.
bhsportsguy - January 26, 2012
which is amazing since the payroll was at like $150mil. Revenue must have been non-existent or spent on non-Dodger activities.
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
$115mil*
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
They do have other expenses
plus the unknown amount spent on debt.
bhsportsguy - January 26, 2012
Sure, but that’s an incredible amount of money spent in a short period of time.
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
Their budgets submitted in the Bankruptcy
showed a cash reserve of around $20M or so for the end of 2011.
bhsportsguy - January 26, 2012
I’m not disagreeing, I’m just saying it’s incredible how much money they spent.
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
I speak PR, I can explain.
The money was not there for Fielder. The Dodgers took a gamble that there would be a big deal of over $200 million on the table that Fielder would ultimately take, and that is what happened. You know how all of us Dodger fans are like, :“Gosh, I would really have liked that deal if Fielder had accepted it?” That is how you know that Fielder wasn’t going to accept it.
But maybe I’m wrong. Maybe he would have signed for that. The downside of that gamble is that they sign him for 4/104, which is a Ned Special and kind of a bargain in that there is very little risk of paying for his decline years.
Sure, they’d have to find a way to make up the $26 million this year, but after April 30 that isn’t Frank’s problem.
If he accepts the deal, the Dodgers win. If he declines, the Dodgers win (“We really tried, guys!”).
I am extremely cynical about this story. They made an offer that had a pretty good shot of being declined, and it was in fact declined.
Humma Kavula - January 26, 2012
maybe!
mleadman - January 26, 2012
I will argue a ton of things, I will not argue against a maybe
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
The Houston Maybes
mleadman - January 26, 2012
haha
uschris0304 - January 26, 2012
The Houston Maebes
Josie Becker - January 26, 2012
The Houston Macabees
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
Maccabi Houston
Josie Becker - January 26, 2012
Yes!
Nolij - January 26, 2012
The Houston Funkeis
Ivdown - January 26, 2012
I mean, two weeks ago, did you think Fielder was a $200+MM player? Or would you have thought if (say the Nationals) ultimately offered Fielder $160MM that the offer had a good shot of being declined?
Michael White - January 26, 2012
Speaking for myself, I was convinced Boras was seeking Pujols-level money. I’m never surprised by what he gets.
kinbote - January 26, 2012
Boras understands that you can never get more than you ask for, so why not ask for everything at the start
seems to indicate Pujols level money to me. He is going to let the buyer determine what the player is worth, not artificially lower the price based on what he thinks he can get
maybe
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
As you say
We’ll never know.
kinbote - January 26, 2012
I had no idea what Fielder was worth. Zero. Less than zero.
I did know that his agent was Scott Boras and Scott Boras’s clients sign for more money and more years than anybody expects.
Humma Kavula - January 26, 2012
somewhere
Brett Easton Ellis just got his wings
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
Hot, or bbq?
uschris0304 - January 26, 2012
and hopefully he has ranch.
uschris0304 - January 26, 2012
Ryan Madson cries himself to sleep.
regfairfield - January 26, 2012
so does Jeff Weaver
StolenMonkey86 - January 26, 2012
Boras set it up for V mart to tear an ACL.
uschris0304 - January 26, 2012
I’m not a buyer on the Victor Martinez stuff. Unless I"m mistaken, this isn’t a career-ending injury, right? He’s out for 2012 and then he’s back, right?
If that’s right, then I cannot believe — I simply CAN NOT believe — that the Tigers were not players for Fielder, then lost Martinez, then unloaded a 9/214 deal. Nobody would do that. The way it had to be was that the Tigers were already players for Fielder and then did what it took to get him. Victor Martinez was not a factor — or if it was, it was a minor factor. They were already going after the guy and trying to get him.
Or they have no idea what they’re doing. One or the other.
Humma Kavula - January 26, 2012
“I will be dead before the bad part of the contract kicks in so who cares get me a ring”
regfairfield - January 26, 2012
rosebud
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
My Subaru needs a new transmission—time to buy a Mercedes!
kinbote - January 26, 2012
sometimes I think this way for lunch
sometimes its worth it
other times I wish I ate the Subaru
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
From Tom Verducci:
Eric Stephen - January 26, 2012
That is crazy. That is honestly crazy.
Humma Kavula - January 26, 2012
rich people do crazy things with crazy amounts of money
nolander - January 26, 2012
I miss the butterfly in flames that you ride
just thought you should know that
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
forgot to change it back
thanks for the reminder
nolander - January 26, 2012
and I don’t know what in the hell it means, but it says “you”
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
its what happens when you let swedish folk write lyrics in english
I love that lullaby
Start me up again
Electric spine
Open mind
I leave you, negative behind
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
nolander - January 26, 2012
Vlad 2.0
kinbote - January 26, 2012
Does it feel better
that since they signed vlad up till they got pujols, the angels where in the same position every offseason? Tex, Crawford, etc.
nolander - January 26, 2012
No, because we rarely get the big FA here.
Ivdown - January 26, 2012
Schmidt and Andruw Jones count. Manny Ramirez counts. Jeff Kent counts.
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
Pierre too
just because they don’t work out doesn’t mean we don’t get them
nolander - January 26, 2012
“We got rid of Alex Cora for Jeff Kent how dare you DePo”
regfairfield - January 26, 2012
fired.
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
We gave Odalis Perez more money than Jeff Kent that winter. That’s pretty funny in retrospect.
regfairfield - January 26, 2012
something this hot arty chick once told me
don’t get up close and try to make sense of any piece of it, you gotta step back and see if it makes sense at 6 feet
mostly it will still look like shit, but even the beautiful compositions will have ugly parts if your nose is 6 inches from the canvas
/no hot arty chick ever told me any such thing
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
That’s too bad. Everybody should have a hot arty chick once on their lifetime. Maybe your is coming.
iiidown - January 26, 2012
hey, mine is now!
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
Huzzah!
Tommy Blackjack - January 26, 2012 via iPhone app
One winter was JD Drew, D Lowe, and Jeff Kent.
meercatjohn - January 26, 2012
that is a monty haul
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
and had just traded for brad penny, no?
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
Yup.
regfairfield - January 26, 2012
How big of a market is Detroit? How can this owner afford this stuff? Is he taking a loss? I wish Mike Itchy was bidding on the Dodgers.
uschris0304 - January 26, 2012
Little Caesars
Eric Stephen - January 26, 2012
Prince can fucking sell
those worthless cardboard pieces of shit now.
mleadman - January 26, 2012
he can eat the cheese ones
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
Pizza Pizza
Michael White - January 26, 2012
fuck Chase Carey
oh wait, you said Pizza
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
Fuck him anyway
mleadman - January 26, 2012
Fuckin Boras making us wait this long on Fielder, could of had him wrapped up before VMart tore his shit…. Now I get to add VMart to my hate list, and put Boras on it again.
uschris0304 - January 26, 2012
take it to the, oh nevermind
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
From the Detroit Free Press:
Eric Stephen - January 26, 2012
the evidence is piling up
nolander - January 26, 2012
Good gosh a-mighty, it certainly is. That is no way to…
I mean it’s absolutely fu….
it is crazy.
Humma Kavula - January 26, 2012
Why the hell did we re-sign Loney then?
kinbote - January 26, 2012
couldn't risk not signing him
nolander - January 26, 2012
Exactly……
iiidown - January 26, 2012
He was there
mleadman - January 26, 2012
go climb a rock
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
If things played out the way they did and Loney was not tendered, the Dodgers would be royally screwed. If they played out the way they did and the Dodgers did not make an effort in earnest to work out a deal with Loney, he’d be pissed.
If the Dodgers landed Prince, they could trade Loney to someone (Detroit for instance) and shed some of his salary and get something in return.
Nolij - January 26, 2012
eh
a lot of people would get a boner knowing Sands was the OD 1B instead of Loney
delias man - January 26, 2012
can’t the dodgers just exchange arbitration figures with loney, continue purusing Fielder then settle with Loney once Fielder signs?
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
Sure, but they’d end up settling at the same price anyway. If they tried to go less because they had Prince, they’d risk losing the arb hearing and end up paying more.
David Young - January 26, 2012
This injury
is playing hell with my long term joke plans on when he hits free agency again.
Attention V-Mart Shoppers!
mleadman - January 26, 2012
lemme take a hit
Dodger blue light special, V-Mart is open for business in Los Angeles
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
Seriously, I am gonna shut up now. I clearly have no idea how human beings operate. I should have remembered that I know nothing about anything and baseball least of all.
Of course! You lose a pretty good player for a year, what do you do! You sign somebody else to one of the biggest contracts in baseball history! It’s obvious! Easy peasy lemon squeezy!
Humma Kavula - January 26, 2012
Again, it’s a lot easier when you’ll be dead before you ever have to pay the thing.
regfairfield - January 26, 2012
plus they can easily move victor if they want to next year right?
nolander - January 26, 2012
Wouldn’t say easily, he’s a DH that makes a lot of money coming off major surgery.
regfairfield - January 26, 2012
Its the second one. No way were the Tiges in on Fielder before – no roster spot.
lnickerson88 - January 26, 2012 via mobile
roster spots for elite players are not a concern
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
“you know, I know Prince Fielder makes a lot of sense, but we’d have to let Ramon Troncoso go, and that’s just not a risk I’m willing to take”
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
Lolance thinks that sounds reasonable.
Nolij - January 26, 2012
that’s how we fit G onto to the TBLA softball team
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
ooh
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
How is
1B – Fielder
3B – Cabrera
DH – V-Mart
Different from
1B – Fielder
3B – Cabrera
DH – I don’t know Don Kelly or something
regfairfield - January 26, 2012
Ask the Tigers
nolander - January 26, 2012
I guess a better question is how do you have Miguel Cabrera, Prince Fielder and no DH.
regfairfield - January 26, 2012
a rubber sandwich?
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
What are you talking about you just listed two DHs
nolander - January 26, 2012
The Detroit Tigers disagree with you.
regfairfield - January 26, 2012
yeah well their the guys who forgot to sign a 3rd dh
so what does that say about them?
nolander - January 26, 2012
During the press conference today
Jim Leyland said, ""Miguel Cabrera is going to play third base…let me make it perfectly clear"
Of course people say a lot of things.
Eric Stephen - January 26, 2012
3rd dh not 3rd baseman
Just riffin. Although I agree with Xei that Prince and Miggy will see lots of time at DH
nolander - January 26, 2012
I agree completely with this and it ties in with the timeline of when Miggy was told to start getting ready to play some 3rd base.
I don’t agree that the Dodgers wasted everyone’s time by putting in all this work just for PR purposes, and I don’t trust anyone.
I will say the Dodgers winter was a huge fail from all sides of every possible geometric angle.
meercatjohn - January 26, 2012
I now disavow sentence one
meercatjohn - January 26, 2012
That didn’t take long
mleadman - January 26, 2012
Catching up means wow, Detroit really did panic
meercatjohn - January 26, 2012
I knew I should have posted
“keep reading”
nolander - January 26, 2012
You were right
meercatjohn - January 26, 2012
and that never happens!
for once everyone wasn’t a dirty dirty liar at all times.
nolander - January 26, 2012
you were right about me… tell your sister, you were right.
uschris0304 - January 26, 2012
THIS WINTER A HUGE FAIL????
Matt Kemp shakes his head in dismay….
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
Good point
actually excellent point considering most of us said if they sign Matt to an extension no matter what else happens this winter was a win.
But I did like my sentence even if it was as wrong as the number of levels at the Sears tower.
meercatjohn - January 26, 2012
i’m glad all our 2012 dumbness will be washed away in two years and replaced by the dumbness of the 2014 offseason
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
Foresighted pessimism at it’s best!
iiidown - January 26, 2012
absolutely this
until victor went down I think we where close
nolander - January 26, 2012
I'll bite
What good does this PR do the 2012 Dodgers anyway? No one will buy tickets because we almost got Fielder. At this point, no one will buy tickets until new ownership is in place and they start dropping some dollars. Seems like a lot of work for no gain.
mochemin - January 26, 2012
It instills the belief that if this team is in it come trade deadline, they’ll go after a big name because they are committed to excellence. So buy your season tickets, cause this team is going to the playoffs.
Josie Becker - January 26, 2012
Can I get an “Amen!”?
iiidown - January 26, 2012
My answer is that the Dodgers, either like or unlike the Tigers, have no idea what they’re doing.
Humma Kavula - January 26, 2012
Yeesh
Michael White - January 26, 2012
maybe
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
Humma, you have to stop giving Ned advice. One of these days he will start listening to you.
iiidown - January 26, 2012
It says we aren’t poor and will totally get this done next time. Please buy tickets to make sure we can.
regfairfield - January 26, 2012
I suppose
Frank will take whatever uptick in revenue he can get, but I would imagine he could measure it in haircuts.
mochemin - January 26, 2012
depends on the quality of the haircut
Josie Becker - January 26, 2012
If you have to give Frank props for anything
The man knows his hair styling
mleadman - January 26, 2012
And he can teach Matt Kemp a thing or two about how to wear a suit.
Humma Kavula - January 26, 2012
You can't teach those who don't want to be taught
it would be so easy for these guys to hire a competent stylist, but they don’t, because they think they know better.
nolander - January 26, 2012
Matt Kemp is a baller, ballers dont wear suits, they dress hip hop R&B style.
uschris0304 - January 26, 2012
Korean haircut?
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
Lotta bangs
for your bucks
mochemin - January 26, 2012
LOLZ
ishXdavid - January 26, 2012
It would have been great if the Dodgers offered a post-McCourt season ticket plan. Like all games after April 30 or something. I thought that would have been creative and funny.
Eric Stephen - January 26, 2012
The Diary of Ban Frank
kinbote - January 26, 2012
I’ll wreck it.
Humma Kavula - January 26, 2012
Awesome
Eric Stephen - January 26, 2012
In my humble opinion, the Dodgers would’ve been one of the finalists for Fielder had the injury to V-mart not happened. Also, maybe Cecil had something to do with it…
lnickerson88 - January 26, 2012 via mobile
Did Cecil want him to come to the Dodgers? Prince and Cecil don’t get along.
VegasBlues - January 26, 2012
maybe
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
Cecil was saying all along that he thought Washington was the place. He was also saying it without specifically talking to his son. He had zero impact on Prince’s Dodgerness.
Nolij - January 26, 2012
V-Mart
You just know he’ll wind up playing his final season in the majors with the Dodgers as a back up catcher! If Vin is still broadcasting at that point, he’ll tell the story…
latenite - January 26, 2012
I really wanted us to sign V-Mart when he was a free agent.
kinbote - January 26, 2012
haha so true
uschris0304 - January 26, 2012
V-Mueller
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
Well, maybe for those that wouldnt even entertain the idea of the Dodgers signing Fielder, that you ended up being correct, but we did try, so next time, never say never, and you never know haha.
uschris0304 - January 26, 2012
You be right, trying to figure out what this team will do based on what they have done is now a fools errand.
meercatjohn - January 26, 2012
maybe
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
When Prince hits the DL for the fourth time in the next three years, I won’t say “I told you so.” But I’ll be thinking it. All the people that keep pointing to the games he’s played in his mid-twenties are overlooking the fact that he will never again be in his mid-twenties.
Nolij - January 26, 2012
He’ll be fine over the next four years.
meercatjohn - January 26, 2012
Selective choosing — Boog Powell played >150 games from 26-28 and >140 all years but one from 23-28. He never played >140 again. Cecil played at least 154 games every year from 26-29. Only once again after that. Prince is much bigger than either of those guys were.
Nolij - January 26, 2012
right, but im just talking about those that seemed to get bent out of shape anytime anyone even brought up the Dodgers signing Fielder, with a quick NO, or the was no chance in hell, but they really did try, and almost made it happen. Or I cant wait til Fielder signs so we can stop talking about him already…. shit, he signed, who are we still talking about?? :)
uschris0304 - January 26, 2012
YEAH BABY, YEAH
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
Fucking Victor Martinez, all switch hitting Hispanic catchers with power and discipline destined to be DH’s in their 30’s are going to mind fuck us forever.
meercatjohn - January 26, 2012
Sounds about right
Michael White - January 26, 2012
agreed
VeroJoe - January 26, 2012
concur
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
So………….
Loney really was going to our LF this season. Or he was going to be quickly traded to the Brewers.
meercatjohn - January 26, 2012
I'm boggled
nolander - January 26, 2012
well, I brought up earlier that IMO I think that Loney tweet that we are going to win the WS means he was talked to about moving positions, but still being a part of this team… so I’m going with LF
uschris0304 - January 26, 2012
I’d have ponied up for a plan if they had gotten Prince just as a show of support for such stealth dealing. I love stealth.
meercatjohn - January 26, 2012
It would have been totally epic
nolander - January 26, 2012
Yeah, I love stealth too, just not flying over Dodger Stadium on opening day.
uschris0304 - January 26, 2012
We could float you
meercatjohn - January 26, 2012
lol, no, I like jet fly overs, but the loud ones.
uschris0304 - January 26, 2012
America! FUCK YEAH!
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
Nobody told me the Alabama teabagger shared a name with a bespectacled underrated power hitter with a great eye from the 1980s.
Eric Stephen - January 26, 2012
I mean I know he is a lawer and his job is to advocate for his client
but he basically argued that if someone can’t remember the sexual assualt it shouldn’t be a big deal. Ruffies for everyone!
nolander - January 26, 2012
its just teabagging.
uschris0304 - January 26, 2012
this is one conversation that just doesn’t need to happen again
court168627 - January 26, 2012 via Android app
oops
nolander - January 26, 2012
so I should just go drop my nuts in the hot secretary down the halls mouth?
Is that just teabagging?
nolander - January 26, 2012
I am about 75 percent ashamed of this comment
nolander - January 26, 2012
go ahead, toss that other 25% in the pot
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
I figure I meant well
and the hot secretary down the hall doesn’t even exist to my knowledge.
nolander - January 26, 2012
too bad!
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
I know
I really wish there was a hot secretary down the hall
nolander - January 26, 2012
I don’t. I like to keep a safe distance from such animals. Good for all involved
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
Know thyself.
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
I don’t keep potato chips and cookies in my office kitchen either
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
same reason i now stay out of casinos and one of a few reasons why i’ve never smoked anything.
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
because you are religious?
uschris0304 - January 26, 2012
i have a highly addictive personality.
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
this comment is now hilarious
Maddz - January 27, 2012
Gary is smoking?
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
I would prefer diamonds
nolander - January 27, 2012
No, but if Raiders play Texans and im being a rowdy obnoxious fan and then Raiders lose and I pass out due to intoxication, feel free to drop em in there…. I promise, I wont press charges, I deserved it.
uschris0304 - January 26, 2012
I can see right through you
you’re hoping
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
HITNG
meercatjohn - January 26, 2012
and you were in Houston watching the game while the game was being played in Florida.
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
haha
uschris0304 - January 26, 2012
Rufio! Rufio! Rufio!
Nolij - January 26, 2012
I'm pretty disappointed
but you guys are hilarious. The laughter masks my pain.
OB12 - January 26, 2012
sure im disappointed that the dodgers didn’t land prince, but im honestly pleasantly surprised that they even put forth a legitimate attempt
court168627 - January 26, 2012 via Android app
intentions and efforts are like assholes, give me outcomes!!!
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
You’re going to be even more disappointed when you realize we’ve all been fucking with you in your Fan Post and have given you the worst possible advice :)
Eric Stephen - January 26, 2012
we told him to go to applebees?
nolander - January 26, 2012
Way to mess with the noob!
OB12 - January 26, 2012
I, for one, am not high on Prince’s future given his body type. I know I’m a minority of one in here, but I still think this deal will come back to haunt the Tigers. (I’ll just sit back and wait for the barrage now.)
KellyStephen - January 26, 2012
I’ve been thumping this tub for a while. Welcome aboard.
Nolij - January 26, 2012
I’ve been aboard; just keeping to myself.
KellyStephen - January 26, 2012
This ship is going to get crowded. All you have to do is look at what happened in the past…..“Those who do not study the past are doomed to repeat it.”
iiidown - January 26, 2012
First and Foremost, let us praise haunting
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
:)
KellyStephen - January 26, 2012
There is a very good chance he would opt out after the first 4 years
and sign another huge contract. He is only 27 now and most hit FA around 31 as I understand it.
nolander - January 26, 2012
the problem with the opt out clause is that the dodgers would get the short end no matter what. either prince declines because he’s regressed nelow a 20 mil value or accepts and the dodgers have to renegotiate at a higher price
court168627 - January 26, 2012 via Android app
or they do the smart thing and let him walk if he opts out
and spend the 20 million elswhere, which would be ideal.
nolander - January 26, 2012
correct!
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
The advantage is that Prince ages 32-whatever is no longer your problem.
regfairfield - January 26, 2012
Correct!
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
Yes.
Nolij - January 26, 2012
but if he is a problem at that age then there’s no way he would opt out!
court168627 - January 26, 2012 via Android app
He almost certainly would be at 32+
Nolij - January 26, 2012
that's my point
and that’s why opt out clauses (as well as player options) are terrible for teams. the player will always select what’s more financially beneficial for them. and what’s financially beneficial for the player is almost always obverse from what’s financially beneficial for the team
court168627 - January 26, 2012 via Android app
you haven't addressed any of the points as to why in THIS situation that wouldn't be the case
nolander - January 26, 2012
because im not trying to prove that this sotuation wouldn’t be the case…
court168627 - January 26, 2012 via Android app
unless he thought he could get a 6 year deal elsewhere. With all these teams getting new deals, there’s no telling how high elite players’ salaries will get in 4 years, and 20mil may be a bargain that he wouldn’t want to give.
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
the idea is that he would likely decline AFTER opting out to get another contract
everything is a risk, would you rather take a risk on elite talent or capuang and harang
nolander - January 26, 2012
He’ll probably still be pretty good! Then he’ll probably still be good for a different team for a couple years before he becomes a huge problem for them.
regfairfield - January 26, 2012
We’ll see.
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
Maybe
Nolij - January 26, 2012
Yes we will.
Just remember how pissed off everyone was last year because we didn’t get Adam Dunn.
KellyStephen - January 26, 2012
I, for one, was not pissed. I don’t like iron glove players, they make my eyes bleed
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
Like Fielder?
KellyStephen - January 26, 2012
He is a much better fielder then dunn
nolander - January 26, 2012
By what measure? Width?
KellyStephen - January 26, 2012
His last name?
regfairfield - January 26, 2012
Noblesse oblige?
Nolij - January 26, 2012
That made me laugh…well done.
KellyStephen - January 26, 2012
So is my mother, but she’s 82.
iiidown - January 26, 2012
Mrs. iidown can pick it!
Eric Stephen - January 26, 2012
I don’t think of Prince as Iron gloved, I see him as limited range
he is way better than Dunn, though Prince is by no means great
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
Loney-esque
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
Yes – not in love with the slick fielding James Loney rep
but that’s just me
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
No, it’s not.
Nolij - January 26, 2012
I’m very much driving this train.
Much like I don’t think Ethier is as bad as people think, I don’t think Loney is nearly the “it’s okay because his glove is great” player that people see.
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
Ethier is ok
He looks worse than he is – I think he is ugly out there
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
he gets the job done, takes good routes, has a strong arm, gets good jumps, not fast but not slow. He’s solid.
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
He’s incredibly slow.
David Young - January 26, 2012
But…but…he’s an All-Star and a Gold Glove! He must be doing something right, or he knows who to pay off.
iiidown - January 26, 2012
count the errors
Oh wait, you can’t. He didn’t make any
Tommy Blackjack - January 26, 2012 via iPhone app
compared to what?
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
Moneyball riff.
I like his jumps, but I always seem to find him taking longer to get to balls than I expect, so I think he is slower than average.
In the NFL they seem to have times on everybody. Might be nice to have 40 times (is 120 feet too much?) on OFs.
David Young - January 27, 2012
Are you talking about starting all-star centerfielder Andre Ether?
ishXdavid - January 26, 2012
*Ethier
Ether is the shit that makes your soul burn slow.
ishXdavid - January 26, 2012
It’s those prancy deer strides when he runs
Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache - January 26, 2012
he is slick
he just isn’t a great fielder
nolander - January 26, 2012
He’s an excellent driver.
Nolij - January 26, 2012
and Fisher.
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
All the way to the end of the driveway…..
iiidown - January 26, 2012
further than Tiger got
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
Well, he’s no Fielder at all
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
He’s a Prince of a guy
mleadman - January 26, 2012
he didn't get 160 million dollars
nolander - January 26, 2012
and he is already 31ish
prince is 27ish
nolander - January 26, 2012
I still would have liked us signing Adam Dunn. It wouldn’t have worked out well (presumably, though situations change), but I still think we would have been better with him.
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
ugh
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
It’s like you always say, you make decisions based on the information you have at that time and you don’t regret it. This time last year I was hoping we had Adam Dunn because I thought he would improve our team. Turns out he wouldn’t have, but I still would have made that decision.
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
but the glove man! Good god, could you imagine sitting in Dodger Stadium watching him play even an inning of left field.
Jerry Sands playing a line drive was almost too much for me to watch
I want to watch guys play balls poorly, I will just record myself catching fly balls
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
Oh I’d have non-tendered the crap out of James Loney if I signed Dunn.
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
but then who plays LF?!?!?!?!!
move loney to left, he couldn’t be worse the dunn
nolander - January 26, 2012
these are all bad answers
Defense counts
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
so does offense
nolander - January 26, 2012
(haha loney and offense)
nolander - January 26, 2012
Tony Gwynn Jr and later Juan Rivera
regfairfield - January 26, 2012
Johnny Damon
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
is a DH
nolander - January 26, 2012
whom I would have gladly played in left field for a season.
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
I’m blaming Juan Rivera if Johnny Damon doesn’t get to 3000 hits.
regfairfield - January 26, 2012
first player ever with 3,000 hits to not get in the hall of fame!
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
palmeiro
nolander - January 26, 2012
second playr ever with 3,000 hits to not get in the hall of fame!
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
pete rose
court168627 - January 26, 2012 via Android app
third player ever with 3,000 hits to not get in the hall of fame!
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
pete rose is a technicallity
nolander - January 26, 2012
so is palmeiro
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
he is eligible to be inducted
rose is not
nolander - January 26, 2012
depends who is voting
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
I want 15 years of people trying to justify Johnny Damon getting in the Hall of Fame is that so wrong of me?
regfairfield - January 26, 2012
the new Jack Morris
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
or George Bell (?), or Bert Blyleven, or
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
Jack Morris would be in if he was a Red Sox
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
he did play in Boston
I’ll hand it to those fuckers, they whine like none other about shit like this
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
True or False
Boston:New York::San Francisco:Los Angeles?
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
Only if people in NY don’t give a shit about Boston. Oh wait.
Eric Stephen - January 26, 2012
True
Not just with sports, but culture too.
ishXdavid - January 26, 2012
False
I love LA, but there is nothing comparable in LA to a visit to Manhattan.
David Young - January 26, 2012
Come on 3000 hits, top 20 all time in runs scored and doubles plus more total bases than Mickey Mantle how could you say no.
regfairfield - January 26, 2012
I think that he needed Manny to relay that throw, but just missed him, so Manny had to lunge for it. I don’t think he can throw it all the way to second base on the fly.
iiidown - January 26, 2012
didn’t i make an equally stupid claim abour omar vizquel yesterday?
court168627 - January 26, 2012 via Android app
i think so
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
Keep ’em coming
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
he is worse then you realize then
nolander - January 26, 2012
he could get better though
nolander - January 26, 2012
See
If things were different Adam Dunn would have had a different season.
People don’t always understand this, but the reasons a player sucked often wouldn’t have applied had they been in a different environment.
There’s no way to predict it, but he could have turned out just as fine as normal had he signed here. Or he could have sucked even worse. Who knows.
Taylor Maricle - January 26, 2012
according to jon weisman’s logic, it is impossible for adam dunn not to bounce back this season
court168627 - January 26, 2012 via Android app
In the sense that if he hits worse he’s gonna be out of baseball?
regfairfield - January 26, 2012
Droll
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
It is so droll, is it not : )
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
I think I may have used the wrong word there, but you get my point
G.Scott - January 27, 2012
droll means curiously funny, which would work there : )
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
I like to use droll because that is what Fred Flinstone would deadpan when Wilma was making fun at his expense
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
because that’s what Jackie Gleason used to deadpan : )
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
The cartoon carbon is my reference point, but yeah, I know the connection
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
indeed
(sips tea)
Tommy Blackjack - January 27, 2012 via iPhone app
of all the bunburyists that I know, Tommy, you might be the best
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
You mustn’t think I’m wicked Josie. :)
Tommy Blackjack - January 27, 2012 via iPhone app
I feel exactly the same
Ivdown - January 27, 2012
Unnecessary shot?
kinbote - January 27, 2012
totally
I was going to call bullshit but then didn’t want to start the conversation all over again
if we start extending people’s logic like this, bad things will follow
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
maybe
and someone smart proved that when you measure something you change it forever
I think we get all that kind of thinking, change a variable and you change everything kind of drug induced nonsense, but when you get down to that kind of thinking, then all conversation is BZZZZT
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
But does anyone like, know anything, man?
regfairfield - January 26, 2012
far out
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
It really could go either way. He could provide great value or he could be what everyone fears he will be.
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
maybe
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
You can dance if you want to
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
I don't want to
nolander - January 26, 2012
Take it to the Men Without Hats thread
mleadman - January 26, 2012
What if my friends don’t dance?
Eric Stephen - January 26, 2012
Do you mind if we dance wif yo date?
mleadman - January 26, 2012
Otis! He LOVES us!
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
My man!
mleadman - January 26, 2012
6th street!
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
well then they’re no fucking friends of mine
court168627 - January 26, 2012 via Android app
Little people renaissance videos are the best
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
you can leave your friends behind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZaiB9jYCxI
Ivdown - January 27, 2012
Bogut out indefinitely with left ankle fracture
uschris0304 - January 26, 2012
sign Prince!
mleadman - January 26, 2012
maybe
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
10th president of the united states' grandsons are still alive!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2092227/US-president-John-Tylers-grandsons-STILL-ALIVE.html
mleadman - January 26, 2012
pre-viagra, pretty impressive genes
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
President Tyler lived at the Sherwood Forest Plantation.
/interesting while not so interesting at the same time
VegasBlues - January 26, 2012
Tippicanoe and Tyler Too
Who knows what the Tippicanoe part was all about?
mleadman - January 26, 2012
running mate was the hero of the battle of Tippicanoe
can’t remember who that was
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
William Henry Harrison
regfairfield - January 26, 2012
he’s the guy who died like weeks after being sworn in because he didn’t want to wear a coat a look weak – right?
genius
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
We’ve voted in some smart Presidents over time…
/runs away from politics
VegasBlues - January 26, 2012
The Houston Presidents
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
The Houston Dead Presidents
mleadman - January 26, 2012
that's it
mleadman - January 26, 2012
It’s a myth that giving a speech in the cold killed him, but yeah that’s the guy.
regfairfield - January 26, 2012
don’t fuck with the narrative
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
He did die from pneumonia and did give a speech out in the cold. Prove it’s a myth!
VegasBlues - January 26, 2012
After the Griddle was put to bed - Btimmermann started his next project
go to allthepresidentsbooks.com where you will see that this fact and other interesting tidbits was revealed almost two years ago.
bhsportsguy - January 26, 2012
a very very long speech
nolander - January 26, 2012
My back of the napkin analysis
Feel free to call bullshit, but i don’t really care since it is me spitballing.
Once McCourt realized he was going to sell the team he instructed his GM to fill out the roster as quickly (as reasonable as could be) and to not worry about any long term deals with FAs since he didn’t want to rock the boat and risk driving down the asking price of the team. Just sign Kemp who along with Kershaw is the “brand” of the team. Ned did this. He signed a few short term deals, nothing that will kill us over the long hual but nothing that will really help us much the next year or two. Then Mark Cuban happened. Then Josh Macciello happened and the likes of other bidders with deep pockets. Rumors of the team possibly selling for $1.5B or more danced in his head. Now suddenly, a long term deal (7 year frame) with the likes of Prince Fielder was doable. Not on his dime of course, because he will be gone come what may. Now the prospects of signing Fielder suddenly looks good on the books Frank is told by his suits. But sadly Victor Martinez happened and 9/$219M or whatever Prince ended up signing for tipped the scales (no pun intended) back the other way and here we are today, wasted away in Juan Riveraville looking for our outlaw shaker of Capang. Some people will say that Ned is to blame, but … it’s Franks own damm fault.
Xeifrank - January 26, 2012
plausible – I’ll buy it as much as any other story
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
Hmmm….assuming you’re right, perhaps the club tries to lock up CK?
Michael White - January 26, 2012
i actually completely agree with this scenario
court168627 - January 26, 2012 via Android app
not ever a doubt
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
Seems about right. Doesn’t make it suck any less.
Eric Stephen - January 26, 2012
This
I would rather have not known the Dodgers were in on Fielder.
FeelinKindaBlue - January 26, 2012
ahh – I don’t care
it doesn’t matter either way
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
One way, the Dodgers don’t have Fielder. The other way, the Dodgers do not have Fielder.
Nolij - January 26, 2012
Vinny would say
“The best laid plans of mice and men…..”
or does he bust this one from time to time
“Man plans, god laughs”
I always resented the god figure in that one
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
Agree & Kuroda gets putoff
I agree and said as much a few weeks ago. I believe this story makes sense and also supports the fact that the Dodgers were in touch with Kuroda according to reports up until a week before he committed to the Yanks and dropped his price to 10 million.
With Fielder still out there and resources tight the Dodgers decided to go all in as much as they could on Fielder. By time he turned the Dodgers down Kuroda decided he couldn’t risk seeing his price drop futher and went with the Yanks.
wineracquet - January 26, 2012
BULLSHIT
OK, now I’ll read it.
David Young - January 26, 2012
We are down a Sweathog
Juan Epstein RIP
Nolij - January 26, 2012
The Houston Sweathogs
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
I have been to Houston once in my life. I was supposed to be there for 3 days. I only stayed for 2 because of how humid it was there (I would have left the first day but I had tickets to an Astros / Cubs game on the 2nd day).
This name would be fitting.
VegasBlues - January 26, 2012
Welcome Back Kotter
might have been one of the first shows that I related to vaguely as a teen growing up in the 70s. Though none of my history teachers were that funny.
bhsportsguy - January 26, 2012
It was too NY for me
Couldn’t relate at all in my suburban high school
mleadman - January 26, 2012
Marty LOVED, The Boy in the Plastic Bubble
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
My family loved it
1> It was set in NY, they were NYers
2> It had this Italian kid as the star
I did a mean Arnold Horshack in the 5th grade
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
I do a good one too, see?
Ooh, ooh!
Nolij - January 26, 2012
it was a great show imo and I can’t relate to either #1 or #2. Sitcoms back in the day (uses old man voice) were soooooooo much better than the crap on tv these days.
Xeifrank - January 26, 2012
gack
meercatjohn - January 26, 2012
alf
Xeifrank - January 26, 2012
I know I sat around my dinner growing up and would say all the time
bhsportsguy - January 26, 2012
I was too young to see the movie, old enough to buy the record though!
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
and my older brothers had hair like that
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
heaven needed a sweathog
hee came hee seop'd he choi'd - January 26, 2012
James Loney
Lucky man? Or Luckiest Man on earth?
mleadman - January 26, 2012
Don’t mess around with Jim
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
don’t shit in the wind
meercatjohn - January 26, 2012
quite a mental image there!!!
latenite - January 26, 2012
It’s not as easy as it sounds
mleadman - January 26, 2012
don
bhsportsguy - January 26, 2012
don't tug on
Superman’s cape
bhsportsguy - January 26, 2012
Who’d win – Leroy Brown or Jim?
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
Johnny’d beat ‘em both at fiddlin’.
Nolij - January 26, 2012
Still gets paid either way.
Xeifrank - January 26, 2012
Overall he’s lucky he’s not Travis Ishikawa.
regfairfield - January 26, 2012
Words to live by.
Nolij - January 26, 2012
It is always good to have some peaks for geeks
meercatjohn - January 26, 2012
First base evidently is the play where the luckiest men on the face of the earth normally play
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
May this day forever be know as Lucky Loney Day
meercatjohn - January 26, 2012
I got a name
meercatjohn - January 26, 2012
I’ve been asked more questions about Joshua Macciello then any other owner. His PR company is doing an excellent job at getting his name out there.
meercatjohn - January 26, 2012
I will say this for him
He made me remember Von Joshua
and that isn’t a bad thing
Hollywood Joe - January 26, 2012
I know nobody cares, but the Clippers are wearing LA Stars throwbacks tonight
Josie Becker - January 26, 2012
It's not really a throwback
I mean the Utah Stars (which is where the team moved to after two unsuccessful seasons in LA) no longer exists. This isn’t the Dodgers wearing Brooklyn gear or the Braves wearing Boston gear. Heck it would have been more appropriate for the Clippers to wear Buffalo Braves gear.
I know they are not the only team doing this, Memphis is also wearing a jersey tonight that was worn by an ABA team that played Memphis but is not related to the Grizzlies.
I am sure some of the Clippers are wondering why the Lakers didn’t have to do this at all.
bhsportsguy - January 26, 2012
Miami has worn Floridans uniforms in the past and again this year. But yes, it is odd that NBA teams are paying credit to defunct franchises they have nothing to do with
Josie Becker - January 26, 2012
yeah, only thing I can think of is they do it to sell jerseys. There will be some that must have a LA Stars Griffin or Paul jersey, just because.
uschris0304 - January 26, 2012
its odd that they want to make money?
nolander - January 26, 2012
Grizzles vs Clippers
Vegas says Clippers are 4 point favorites. My SRS says Clippers are 3 point favorites. Watch them win by 3-1/2 some how.
Xeifrank - January 26, 2012
Massive collapse in Orlando
Up by 27, now down by 6 late. Too bad they don’t have Bynum.
Xeifrank - January 26, 2012
proven champ!
Tommy Blackjack - January 26, 2012 via iPhone app
epic fail
By the Magic
Tommy Blackjack - January 26, 2012 via iPhone app
I actually attended an LA Stars game
at the Sports Arena. Wilt Chamberlain was also in attendance. He got nearly as much attention as the game did.
David Young - January 26, 2012
I am pretty
Sure I went to one too.
bhsportsguy - January 26, 2012
I believe it was the first professional sporting event I ever attended.
David Young - January 27, 2012
Is this the year of the “Shit _ _ ___say”?
I’ve watched like 5 different videos
Julio Nievas - January 26, 2012
Kershaw arb hearing
ESPN LA
silverwidow - January 26, 2012
I have an idea let’s take that money we were going to give Prince Fielder and give it to Kershaw. Who’s with me?
regfairfield - January 26, 2012
Not until we lock up Mark Ellis.
Humma Kavula - January 26, 2012
can we save some
For Cespedes?
Tommy Blackjack - January 26, 2012 via iPhone app
¡La Estrucarse!
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
Wha?
Tommy Blackjack - January 26, 2012 via iPhone app
buena suerte
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
La Cienega
Josie Becker - January 26, 2012
Alvera Street
iiidown - January 26, 2012
San Vicente
Josie Becker - January 26, 2012
We love it, We love it,
I love LA
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
“the strikeout”
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
lolz
Tommy Blackjack - January 26, 2012 via iPhone app
Dodgers are probably too late for the “buy out arbitration years and reap huge reward” stage with Kershaw..
Paying him now would simply mean keeping him from free agency for a few more years, but not sure you really gain much from that.
Joey Joe - January 26, 2012
Locking up one of the best pitchers in baseball and doing it before you have to bid against the Yankees, Red Sox, etc.?
VegasBlues - January 26, 2012
lock him up through his prime
take his 3 year deal so to speak and make it 5 or 6
nolander - January 26, 2012
I would like it if Clayton never wore another professional jersey
I am ok overpaying for the privilege
Clayton as a 39 year old crafty lefty, running on empty, going 16 -4 with great era and mediocre peripherals, leading the Dodgers to an improbable world series will be one of the great memories that I have yet to have
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Word
Tommy Blackjack - January 27, 2012 via iPhone app
heh
we will be able to do that, but why get ahead of ourselves, I wouldn’t want to commit to more then 7 years of him until I know that his arm won’t fall off in 3.
nolander - January 27, 2012
Rec'd for this line:
David Young - January 27, 2012
How did I miss this brilliance. I must go back and rec
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
I feel the same way
If he’s extended i hope it’s for 7+ years, just because I love watching him pitch so much.
If Billingsley had kept up his early 2009 form, it would go double for him.
Taylor Maricle - January 27, 2012
HITNG?
David Young - January 27, 2012
LA Stars vs. Memphis Tams
Josie Becker - January 26, 2012
Brazil vs ???
Xeifrank - January 26, 2012
Argentina
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
but like, after Argentina was annexed by Costa Rica
Josie Becker - January 26, 2012
settle on Fiji?
G.Scott - January 26, 2012
indubidously
Josie Becker - January 26, 2012
I have to ask what Tam is?
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
a hat
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
’tis so. But the team name originated as an acronym for Tennessee, Arkansas, Mississippi, all in/near Memphis.
David Young - January 27, 2012
interesting
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
maybe
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
I propose the word “kit” now means “maybe” at TBLA.
fbihop - January 27, 2012
kit
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Cool, thanks
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
The Houston Better-team-Name-than-Memphis’-s-es
Nolij - January 27, 2012
i call bullshit
delias man - January 27, 2012
[x]
David Young - January 27, 2012
They need Shatner to be affiliated with that team.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
OK
delias man - January 27, 2012
Mike and I were there, at first glance I thought the gold / green was hideous but Michael said it was kinda what the Supersonics wore and after a while they did not seem so hideous.
I liked the Clippers look. Not a fan of having to back a team with red, but baby blue worked.
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
aren’t the clippers predominantly red?
G.Scott - January 27, 2012
Yes but they do have blue uniforms they break out once in a blue moon. At least I thought they did. They are America’s team with Red / White / Blue being the colors
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Roger
G.Scott - January 27, 2012
oh so now you care about the uniforms? : )
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
Maybe I just miss the Sonics, but I really liked the Memphis uniforms
Michael White - January 27, 2012
they aren’t bad. Multiple people made the Brazil joke despite Brazil having blue shorts. And of course, the reason the tams wore green/gold is cause they were a Charlie O team
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
Right – it should make people recall the Oakland A’s.
David Young - January 27, 2012
I’d be really mad if I were a Sonics fan right now. I’m sure there are other examples in the three major sports, but it must suck to have to see such a good young term in OKC.
Trying to think of a recent team that won a championship within five years of moving cities (which OKC would have to do by next year to qualify). A’s come to mind. They won a World Series in their fifth year in Oakland in 1972, after moving from Kansas City, then won two more titles in the next two years.
Dodgers obviously won in their second year in LA.
Rams won in their fifth year in St. Louis, in 1999.
Ravens won in their fifth year in Baltimore, in 2000.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
yeah I agree… Im still upset Raiders left, want them back. But reason I never dropped the Raiders like some did, calling them traitors, is because its the city fault, not the team. If you dont built the arena/stadium these teams need to compete in, then somebody else will, and they will leave. Fuck the Coliseum Commission!
uschris0304 - January 27, 2012
I never bought that argument
since the Oakland Coliseum is a dump too
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
yeah, but is it more of a dump then the LA one? Dont they have more luxury boxes, or did at the time, and that was the issue? Plus they gave the Raiders alot of money I think to maybe compensate for the lack of a new stadium. Maybe they promised a new stadium and never delivered I dont know. But because of it, they might move back, so im happy about that.
uschris0304 - January 27, 2012
Yes.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
you cant even really compare the 2 coliseums. one is a majestic piece of history and the other is a big piece of shit.
delias man - January 27, 2012
ive never been to the Oakland one, so I dont know. So what was the reason then? Just the money Oakland gave him? or promise of a new stadium that never happened?
uschris0304 - January 27, 2012
there is no there there
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
strictly a luxury box issue, plus oakland promised him money if they were selling out. the problem in LA is he couldn’t sell out the Coliseum, even at reduced capacity, which kept him off TV
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
Some of it was a bluff that the city of L.A. called and some of it was money. I don’t believe there was any promise of a new stadium.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
i am sure there was never promise of a new stadium
delias man - January 27, 2012
I know of the luxury box situation, but I always wondered why Raiders left when the Rams were leaving, they would of owned LA. Should of seen where that would of taken them.
uschris0304 - January 27, 2012
the mind of Al Davis, who the fuck knows
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Fuck Al Davis and the Marcus Allen train he left on
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
some of it
is because AL allegedly had a done deal at Hollywood park to build a 60k seater and when he went to the NFL for a loan, they told him another team had to share the building. he wanted no part of that, many bluffs were called, and Oakland was rejoicing.
delias man - January 27, 2012
USC football waves hello. What market has both a dominant college football team and a strong NFL fanbase?
Cowboys and Longhorns? Any others?
Michael White - January 27, 2012
Miami
Nolij - January 27, 2012
That’s a good one.
Perhaps Green Bay and Wisconsin?
Seems like there are plenty of examples where regions are dominated by one or the other. Northeast- NFL. South East- CFB. West? Probably college.
Michael White - January 27, 2012
LSU/Saints
Michigan/Lions
Washington/Seahawks (meh)
Nolij - January 27, 2012
Saints and Seahawks are certainly the lesser teams (in terms of popularity) in those markets
Michael White - January 27, 2012
Seahawks sell out though
and so do the Saints. Both are really popular. They can be lesser, but that doesn’t mean they are insignifigant.
nolander - January 27, 2012
Saints were a perennial “move to LA” candidate up until recently when their team became awesome. But the underlying issue is there which is that NO is a terrible market which probably can’t even support 1 professional team let alone two. LSU on the other hand will draw 90,000+ fans for the next 100 years.
Seahawks have a nice fanbase in a niche-y northwest sort of way. Also helps that UW is nowhere near what they once were. I’d have no problem calling this one a draw.
Michael White - January 27, 2012
Any fanbase will struggle when you are that terrible for that long I think
I think as long as the saints don’t go back to complete shit thye will continue to draw, I hear its one of the best gameday experiences in football.
nolander - January 27, 2012
awesome
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Detroit
G.Scott - January 27, 2012
Miami is the only real example. Every other college team that shares with a pro is small school: Tulane, SDSU, well those are the only two I can think of right now
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
Pitt Panthers of Tony Dorsett and Dan Marino fame and the mighty Pittsburgh Steelers
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
right, right.
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
Longhorns are in Austin and no one in Texas feels Dallas can long onto Austin
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
I think both clubs consider the entire state their market
Michael White - January 27, 2012
I think Houston differs with your take
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Cowboy games are broadcast to pretty much the whole state, I see Mike’s point, but I don’t think USC football on Saturdays pushed out the Rams and Raiders because of broadcast TV. It comes down to season tickets and butts in seats, which means sharing a stadium
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
Mike is right
nolander - January 27, 2012
so someone in Houston or Austin is legitimately thinking “do I buy Cowboy season tickets or Texan/Longhorn season tickets” ?
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
No they don’t, they are missing the original point.
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
I don’t think so. The original point was that the Raiders had to compete with USC for fans affection. It’s not that a 20 something in Houston is necessarily weighing Longhorns tickets vs. Texans tickets (though if they are UT alum, I’d say it’s an easy call for Longhorns tickets; its not that far and it’s not that many games) but that if they grew up and remain Cowboy fans, they never developed a strong attachment to the Texans. Therefore, no incentive to buy season tickets.
Michael White - January 27, 2012
The Raiders had to compete with USC for dollars, not affection. Because football fans in the LA area had to make a choice, USC or Raiders, because most can’t afford to do both.
The fact that Austin gets Cowboy games on TV doesn’t affect the Longhorns ability to sell season tickets in their market and vice versa. Is it a factor for the Houston Texans, sure, but we weren’t talking about pro-vs-pro.
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
Furthermore
when talking about the Rams at the Coliseum, they had to compete against USC AND UCLA for season ticket dollars. Ye. Gods.
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
I am thinking you are off on this one.
USC was not that great during the Raiders time here and why would there be competition anyways? People are going to buy what they want.
delias man - January 27, 2012
furthermore
I am willing to bet that USC did not sell out more than 10 conference games that did not involve UCLA during the entire time the raiders were here.
delias man - January 27, 2012
Well, this actually started when chris said that the Raiders would have owned LA had they stayed when the Rams left. With the benefit of hindsight, we know that USC ended up having a dominant run during that time and would have “owned LA.”
Michael White - January 27, 2012
“owned LA” huh? seems ownership is only loosely connected with winning.
delias man - January 27, 2012
I see what you’re saying, but you don’t see that USC-Stanford drawing 74k is still a lot of people
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
Not really a FUCK SC
statement I made there. Just that the stadium is just too big.
delias man - January 27, 2012
I believe you are right here
USC averaged between 56,757 and 69,100 per game from 1982-1994 (capacity of 92,516 through 1992, 94,159 after).
The media guide lists the top 20 USC home crowds since 1964, and only four came from that period:
1988 Notre Dame: 93,829
1993 UCLA: 93,458
1987 UCLA: 92,516
1990 Notre Dame: 91,639
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
yeah
I was assuming ND and maybe like if Nebraska or someone like that came they could have had a sell out.
delias man - January 27, 2012
then you could claim that USC is competing with the 49ers
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
University of Southern California. I didn’t say USC/49ers claimed the entire state as it’s fanbase. I said Texas/Cowboys did.
Michael White - January 27, 2012
America’s team the Dallas Cowboys claim the whole country, does not make it so.
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
I claim the view out of my window
it is my view and no other can have it
I am calling it Joe’s view
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Do you have a flag?
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
only my boxers on a stick
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
do you Salute Your Shorts
G.Scott - January 27, 2012
I called it a pinhole view
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Y’all are trying to be Yertle the Turtle?
David Young - January 27, 2012
Cowboys fans are everywhere in Texas
even in houston
nolander - January 27, 2012
Austin gets more Cowboy games then Houston games
trust me, I’ve heard many a folk bitch about it
nolander - January 27, 2012
your Texas geography is lacking
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
See my respone to phil
Michael White - January 27, 2012
or if you dont support the team, someone else will. Anyways, Sonics fans should be mad at the city of Seattle…. But yeah it must suck.
uschris0304 - January 27, 2012
Key Arena wasn’t that bad. I don’t see why the city needs to pony up the billions of dollars for a new stadium.
Michael White - January 27, 2012
The ease of getting to and from that arena is amazing.
Good public transportation, within walking distance of a lot of stuff.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
I think in the case of Key Arena, it came down to a lack of luxury boxes and that upper tier of extra revenue.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
Because if they dont, there is some city desperate enough for a pro team that will… the city can choose not to, and lose the team, as they did…. I rather have NFL in LA, even if I have to pay for it, oh well.
uschris0304 - January 27, 2012
I think the Ravens is the best comparison, especially since they’ve been so good the whole decade. Both the Dodgers and Rams were second class citizens in their market.
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
and they employ murderers, so they got that going for them
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
he never murdered
he might have watched a murder, but come on.
nolander - January 27, 2012
Who among us hasn’t?
fbihop - January 27, 2012
I've seen a few corpses up close
I’ve never created one
mleadman - January 27, 2012
I’m going to challenge you on both of those (but I may be wrong.) The Rams were here first and a generation of fans were Rams not Raiders fans. The Dodgers were as old as the Yankees and Brooklyn is enormous (population wise.) If there was ever a fanbase on equal footing, it was the Dodgers, especially since the Giants and Yankees split their territory.
Michael White - January 27, 2012
just looking at attendance figures, in the decade before they left there wasn’t one year the Dodgers outdrew the Yankees, or managed to draw 2million fans which the Yankees did for five straight years.
Not saying the Dodgers were unloved, no more than the Mets are unloved now, but the Yankees then and now dominate that market.
With the Rams, never winning a title, then moving to Anaheim while the Raiders moved in and won a Super Bowl, I don’t think they received the same coverage after that.
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
Why did the Rams leave again? The one thing I give the fans is, is in my time Rams were always shitty, and then was part of the reason they left because of a lack of support? But I dont think its fair for owners to field a shitty ass team year in, and year out, and then expect fans to support shit, and then leave because they didnt support it.
uschris0304 - January 27, 2012
Death and sex and intrigue and bad decisions and greed
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
greed = guaranteed sellouts
paid by the city for 20(i think) years in a new stadium
delias man - January 27, 2012
what HJ said. It’s also, the Coliseum commission made an exception for the Rams when they moved here from Cleveland. Before then, pro teams were not allowed to play at the Coliseum. And that was sorta always the relationship, USC and UCLA were first class, the pro teams were second class
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
Guaranteed sellouts
Michael White - January 27, 2012
The A’s last season in Kansas City was 1967. they won it all in 1972, their fifth season in Oakland.
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
Greatest call
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
You didn’t read the second paragraph, huh
Michael White - January 27, 2012
Whoops. Sorry.
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
Don’t apologize, if it was compelling reading you might have read it
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
http://www.truebluela.com/2012/1/26/2742884/prince-fielder-dodgers#90028399
G.Scott - January 27, 2012
my uncle was a huge Sonics fan
heartbroken when they were “taken away”
Maddz - January 27, 2012
of course
I’d rather the Clippers throw back to something like this:
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
got a bit of a cheerleader vibe to it – yes?
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
I just love a good sash
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
he’s got a bit of a cheerleader vibe to him – yes?
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
but he’s our cheerleader : )
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
as pretty as one
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
i hate sashes on football shirts
delias man - January 27, 2012
I love em
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
Nice photography in that shot.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
hate em
delias man - January 27, 2012
I dont like all the dam ads on soccer jerseys…. but I wonder when this will be done in US sports?
uschris0304 - January 27, 2012
you dont see the ad on the galaxy kersey?
delias man - January 27, 2012
yes, I meant in NFL, NBA, MLB.
uschris0304 - January 27, 2012
Ads on the jersey have never bugged me. The logos are usually much less ugly than the team logos.
fbihop - January 27, 2012
and there are rules. No ads on the national team jerseys. It’s just a way to make money. MLS had team wordmarks were the sponsor logo is now. WBNA is doing it, NBA would be wise to exchange the team name with a sponsor logo.
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
I disagree. When you see someone wearing a jersey and it says PARMALAT in big letters, you should not have to say “Wait which team is the powdered condensed milks supposed to be again?”
Nolij - January 27, 2012
you recognize the kit. Do you need to read LAKERS before you know who’s playing?
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
- 5 HJ points for use of “kit” before 10AM PST
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
oh bugger
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
Lakers branded themselves with unique colors. When you see a team wearing, say, white jerseys with blue letters, you may have to.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
I am not a big fan of wearing boca’ s new sponsor so I have not yet been interested in a new shirt.
delias man - January 27, 2012
I never bought a Liverpool shirt because I wasn’t going to wear a jersey advertising beer in big letters. They have some generic sounding company now, so I might, but I absolutely would if it said, you know, the name of the team.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
I never bought a soccer jersey because …….
it is lame
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Thank you for this contribution.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
I never bought a
soccerjersey because …….it is lame
mleadman - January 27, 2012
it is a lot of money for a polyester shirt. Get ’em at Ross!
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
liverpool wears those awful adidas shirts? that would be the main reason not to purchase.
delias man - January 27, 2012
they’re going with a US company next year cause Adidas ditched them. Warrior Sports is the name of the company
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
Interesting
delias man - January 27, 2012
I looked closely – there are no ads on the woman in your profile pic
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
I think she is advertising and I’d buy the goods
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Paraguay national team jersey. no ads on those.
delias man - January 27, 2012
I loved the old Carlsberg shirts
ishXdavid - January 27, 2012
I used to care, passionately
now I am resigned
we are commericialism, it is only a mirror and manifestation of us. Our behaviors, wants, actions….
we are they
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
If I didnt know any better, Id think Beckham just signed with the LA Herbalife…. Maybe it will happen in the other major sports, but I dont know, there will be a major fan uproar. Were so use to the way it already is and has been. Fans complain about the ads in the field, so cant imagine what will happen if they make their way onto jerseys….
uschris0304 - January 27, 2012
actually we’ll probably get mad, then get over it, like everything else I guess.
uschris0304 - January 27, 2012
I’ll be so made I’ll refuse to discuss uniforms ever again
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Most people I know are aware enough to be able to distinguish between the ads on jerseys and the team names.
fbihop - January 27, 2012
Ofcourse we’ll still know its the Lakers, or Dodgers, or USC, but that isnt the point… I still want Lakers on the front…. Not fuckin Geiko.
uschris0304 - January 27, 2012
Just a tradition thing…. But lets say they do it, the sponsor name shouldnt be bigger then the team name itself IMO. Maybe a little small logo for the sponsor on the back of jersey above player name, or below the number… take it or leave it lol
uschris0304 - January 27, 2012
that’s how they do it in the Mexican Premiera League, trust me it just looks more cluttered, like a NASCAR car
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
Aren't they ehre becuase there are very few commercials that can be shown?
so they gotta get their money eslwhere? I’m probably full of shit here.
nolander - January 27, 2012
no, you’re right on the money
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
I just want to be able to tell the name of the team that is playing by looking at the uniform. If someone has to score, so I can see the scoreboard on the TV change to know which team is which someone has failed. This happens, especially when the game is being called in a foreign language.
Xeifrank - January 27, 2012
You could go a whole game being utterly confused :)
OB12 - January 27, 2012
One acronym
NASCAR
David Young - January 27, 2012
I would hate the day that an LA Dodger jersey had a tiny ass LA in the right corner, with a huge ass FARM JOHN on the front… I hope I never see the day in US sports the sponsor gets a bigger logo then the freakin team itself.
uschris0304 - January 27, 2012
baseball can’t do it because when you’ve got a white team and a gray team you need that wordmark. It works best in soccer because unless there’s a color conflict, usually both teams are wearing their standard color jersey. Wordmark is redundant
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
also, MLB, NBA, NFL make enough money to not need to bastardize their jeseys.
G.Scott - January 27, 2012
I heard the NBA is hurting for money so much they had a lockout
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
They had a lockout because the owners knew they could get more money from the players.
G.Scott - January 27, 2012
there is never “enough” money. If there is unrealized revenue, our system demands that over time you figure out a way to realize that revenue
there is only, “Would the backlash against sullying the uniform outweigh the increased revenue”
two things will stop this from happening
1. companies decide the ads are really not worth it
2. The teams decide that the backlash would cost them more
other than that, the tea leaves are clear on this
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
this is all true.
And all the winter league uniforms are covered in ads. I don’t think the latin MLB players would think anything of it.
G.Scott - January 27, 2012
Fans went bazooka when the Dodgers did Spiderman Day
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
teams will continue to test the water
until the waters let them in
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Yes
Activision should have purchased the Dodgers. They have 2.9 Billion laying around they have no idea what to do with.
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Might be against league rules also? (i have no idea)
BFDC - January 27, 2012
Too much money aint enough money, you know the feds listening, what money??
uschris0304 - January 27, 2012
NFL does wear ads in pre season. It is the first step
delias man - January 27, 2012
yes, yes it is
First there is outrage
Then there is a shrug
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
No commercials in Soccer
also plays a role. MLB, NBA, and NFL has natural breaks for commercials so the teams don’t need to be 90-minute advertisements.
ishXdavid - January 27, 2012
keep reading
nolander - January 27, 2012
I would not at all have a problem with an ad on a batting helmet, but the rest of the uni – no way!
delias man - January 27, 2012
Advertising on uniforms are like baseball cards with signatures, gold or silver reflection, pieces of uniform or bat, etc. An ugly abomination but already here with more to come.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
And, some are tasteful enough to be okay, but then others are there just to be there.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
the Red Cross stickers
on the batting helmets following the Asian tsunami looked fine
ishXdavid - January 27, 2012
If they played the Blazers wearing 1970s throwbacks, it would be hard to tell the team apart.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
This was my first thought too
Michael White - January 27, 2012
Some times, the 1970s doesn’t win.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
that’s the truth. They did their first season in the familiar blue and red, then two black and orange, with their final years black and blue
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
avocado appliances FTW
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
I still want an avocado refrigerator
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
You must have a lot of avocados if they need their own fridge.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
rimshot
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
HITNAG
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
So good I wish I would’ve thought of it.
kinbote - January 27, 2012
sadly, I thought of it, but was looking for the right picture to go along with it
never found that photo
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
When I think of avocado green, I think of the gaudy Pontiac stationwagon my dad used to have. You could sit in the very back and face the cars behind you.
kinbote - January 27, 2012
x
We had a old’s 88 (Oldsmobile) with than interior. Even my mother who never swore in front of called it goo shit green.
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
was your dad’s name Jack Arnold?
G.Scott - January 27, 2012
Dan Lauria is apparently drawing rave reviews for his portrayal of Vince Lombardi on Broadway. I can totally see that.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
absolutely.
G.Scott - January 27, 2012
we had one like that – my favorite was the one we had with a big open back. I would lie on the ground in that car and roll around as the car moved
there was also a screw missing on the floor of the car, and I would stick my eye on the hole and zone out watching the tiniest spec of highway underneath the car
good memories
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Love the visual
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
can’t tell if 7 year old, or kidnap victim.
G.Scott - January 27, 2012
By describing the actual pot holes he saw he was able to help the FBI locate him by decoding this information via his Little Orphan Annie Decoder ring.
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
“Be sure to drink your Ovaltine”
But, yeah, I loved rolling around in the back of my aunt’s station wagons in the 60s. Seat belts? Who needs ’em?!
TopDeckTrueBlue - January 27, 2012
You see a dry cleaning bag? I see a new toy!
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
Jarts! We could go on and on … Such an innocent time.
TopDeckTrueBlue - January 27, 2012
Jarts FTW
Over the roof, front yard to backyard contests were what we did
mleadman - January 27, 2012
We actually had child-safe lawn "darts"
when I was a kid in the late 60s or early 70s. They looked like giant shuttlecocks, with the tips weighted down with sand.
David Young - January 27, 2012
maybe she has a tree in her backyard
Like I do
Tommy Blackjack - January 27, 2012 via iPhone app
I would chop down that tree…with a cat.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
don’t you need two to produce fruit?
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
I have the bobblehead of Elton Brand wearing that uni.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
Hopefully Elton is shaking his head no.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
Every time a truck drives by.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
Don’t remember the Sonics uniforms looking like that. I remember some green, but not that sickly shade.
Xeifrank - January 27, 2012
I’m giving Josie about five minutes to reply to this with everything you ever wanted to know about the Supersonic uniforms.
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
my how time crawls
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
The S is for Super and the U is for Unique
Nolij - January 27, 2012
Can anyone name the starting five of the SuperSonic World ChampionShip team?
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Sikma….
Welp, I’m out
Michael White - January 27, 2012
Nope. But I can name a bunch of old Sonics. At least one of them is bound to be one of the five. Lonnie Shelton, Jack Sikma, Gus Williams, Downtown Freddie Brown and the tall guy with the beard.
Xeifrank - January 27, 2012
nice
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
Excellent – until you mentioned the names the only one I could remember was the coach Lennie Wilkins
Gus and Dennis
Sikma
Shelton and John Johnson (do not remember )
Freddie Brown off the bench
Enforcer Silas
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Paul Silas was such a badass, throughout his playing and coaching career.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
Former USC Trojan Gus Williams and Dennis Johnson in the backcourt
Jack Sikma at center
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
hated that team
really hate the Sonics as a kid
hated DJ his whole career
was terrified of Freddie Brown
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
They're not really throwbacks
unless they are short shorts.
David Young - January 27, 2012
OK, I really, really want to make my first trip to Dodgers Stadium and only my second trip ever out to LA.
Thinking the weekend of July 13-15 against the Padres since my birthday is in there
fbihop - January 26, 2012
Will they be doing the run-the-bases thing again on Sundays? That’s fun to do if you have kids, or can borrow some.
TopDeckTrueBlue - January 27, 2012
Luckily, I have no kids.
No offense to those who have bred.
fbihop - January 27, 2012
That’s when I am making my first trip to Dodger Stadium!
OB12 - January 27, 2012
Ha, nice. I still have to see what’s up with my job situation
fbihop - January 27, 2012
So the Dodgers can now be considered...
prick teases?
I do give them credit for the creative contract.
Front load, player opt out, back end lower is the right thing to do when you have limited funds.
Joey Joe - January 26, 2012
Proud of TBLA for not taking this in a really dirty direction.
David Young - January 27, 2012
You’re really just disappointed, admit it.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
Frank McCourt after the sale of the Dodgers
I’m hereby starting a rumor (with no facts to back me up) that McCourt (as a goodbye present to Dodger fans) will take the proceeds of the Dodger sale and buy the parking lots at A T & T Park.
BaldBilly - January 27, 2012
I heard that god has a sick sense of humor
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
nobody likes that song?
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
That’s a blasphemous rumo(u)r.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
According to Exodus, when the Egyptians are chasing Moses’s motley crew across the parted Red Sea, God, who is infinitely powerful and can do anything, knocks the wheels off the pharaoh’s chariots. What a sick sense of humor indeed! He could smite them instantly, but no, finger-flick of chariot wheels like a kids plucking wings off a fly. Truly an awesome God!
David Young - January 27, 2012
When G-d “hardened Pharaoh’s heart,” maybe it was by putting too much salt in his diet.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
yeah
Maybe Pharoh was going to go like “Yeah, whatever, go in peace….stop by when you are around, we’ll have some fermented Toastermilk and talk about the slave days”
but nope, the big dude is like “I am going make this guy act like a dick, so I can destroy him for acting like a dick”
No win man, no win
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
I was going small g
but yeah, plenty of sick material in the big G book too
What was Job about? God betting with the Devil about how miserable they can make this good guy in the hopes of having him crack…..jeez man. I thought those two old fuckers in Trading Places were bad….they look like angles compared to what happened to old Job.
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
those lots already charge $30 bucks per car, and no one parks in them. Frank would need to buy the BART terminal right there.
G.Scott - January 27, 2012
if there even was a BART station anywhere near the stadium you mean
delias man - January 27, 2012
what am i thinking of?
G.Scott - January 27, 2012
MUNI?
Michael White - January 27, 2012
must be
w/e it’s still $30 to park there
G.Scott - January 27, 2012
Transbay terminal isn’t far away…
latenite - January 27, 2012
the CalTrain terminal
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
Things I learned this morning
The Phillies traded Ryne Sandberg to the Cubs because they viewed Juan Samuel as a better prospect.
Wow
Michael White - January 27, 2012
kids
delias man - January 27, 2012
Samuel had all those eye popping skills. Defense and inability to make contact did him in but I could easily see the scouts thinking he was better and I’m sure if BA existed back then Samuel would have been much higher ranked then the HOF.
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
The real story is that the Phillies had to give up a future HOF to get the Cubs to take Larry Bowa off their hands. Either that or they flipped a coin and Sandberg won.
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
How many WAR do you think Sandberg / Bowa earned of their careers after that traded compared to Ivan DeJesus?
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
sounding old friend Juan Pierre
Is going to Philly
Tommy Blackjack - January 27, 2012 via iPhone app
Another reason to hate them.
kinbote - January 27, 2012
sounding like*
Tommy Blackjack - January 27, 2012 via iPhone app
What is the sound of one Juan signing?
kinbote - January 27, 2012
minor league deal.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
711
is the number of plate appearances he had last season. my god. I would have killed myself. even crusty old Torre realized he was garbage and not an everyday player. Poor Ozzie was not aware of this.
hee came hee seop'd he choi'd - January 27, 2012
they would have only replaced his replacement level at bats with replacement level at bats from someone else. IIRC they didn’t have a viable backup plan
G.Scott - January 27, 2012
I think
They are going with Viciendo now
Tommy Blackjack - January 27, 2012 via iPhone app
I replaced my Viciendo with a Diviendo.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
[applause crescendo]
G.Scott - January 27, 2012
I always wonder how many takes it took for these trick shot videos but this one is worth it for Don Mattingly knocking a Giants had off a bear…twice.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
did you see the Josh Womack bat trick? Mad said it looked photo shopped, but I’ve seen it done in person before. Also, they shot the video at the dominguez hills baseball field
G.Scott - January 27, 2012
Never heard of him nor saw that.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
plays(ed) for the Armada. fun trick
G.Scott - January 27, 2012
Another Old Friend + TOOTBLAN alert!
underdog - January 27, 2012
Reunited with class and teammate? Or did he leave?
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Not sure what you mean...? But he left St Loueey as a FA
I guess the Giants wanted a cheaper worse player rather than re-sign Jeff Keppinger. Fine by me.
underdog - January 27, 2012
He meant Mike Fontenot.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
Theriot and Fontenot were teammates and the double play combo at
LSU
Cubs
If Fontenot is still a Giant they have been reunited again. Kind of amazing.
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
I'm sure at this moment
They are skipping towards each other on slow motion through a field of flowers
Tommy Blackjack - January 27, 2012 via iPhone app
That is called a Field of Dreams
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Dutch Rudder
kinbote - January 27, 2012
ah right, right, yep Fontenot's still there
So I guess they chose those two teammates over Keppinger. They still have Freddy Sanchez, too , who can be decent if he stays healthy. Which he rarely has lately.
Not that we can mock anyone’s mediocre veteran infield.
underdog - January 27, 2012
What Ethier desires with Pedroia.
David Young - January 27, 2012
Win!
Nolij - January 27, 2012
OK, Theriot has two teams in the NL Central and two teams in the NL West now.
We just need him to get over to the Mets for a little bit and then maybe the Phillies.
fbihop - January 27, 2012
Kershaw's going to pick him off every time he's on base.
Assuming he can even get on base on Kershaw
Taylor Maricle - January 27, 2012
We are going to get TOOTBLAN and Huffing gifs season long.
David Young - January 27, 2012
another old friend alert
giants sign Ryan Theriot
Tommy Blackjack - January 27, 2012 via iPhone app
1.000 OPS
Give me the last Dodger to put up a 1 OPS and the next Dodger that will do so.
silverwidow - January 27, 2012
1) Beltre
2) Kemp
BFDC - January 27, 2012
This
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
Manny
Ethier (why not)
Michael White - January 27, 2012
We’re counting 2 months?
BFDC - January 27, 2012
No
Need to qualify for batting title.
silverwidow - January 27, 2012
Not what it said in your original question. The answer really is Matt Guerrier.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
then say so
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
I prefer obscure and implied
makes for more confusion
which is where we really thrive
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
I did
Michael White - January 27, 2012
if they are the best 2 months in the last 20 years
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Manny Ramirez
the next one to do so isn’t a Dodger yet.
G.Scott - January 27, 2012
Matt Guerrier
Nolij - January 27, 2012
Going to assume no gimmick and a minimum of at bats so no shenanigans
Manny
Stanton
Home grown
Beltre
Will never happen again
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
I am fully expecting Kemp to have at least one .400/.600 season over his Dodgers career.
BFDC - January 27, 2012
Great Expectations
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
I just don’t know if he’s capable of a season that is better than the one he had last year.
G.Scott - January 27, 2012
he’s not
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
but he might get luckier and not have the rain out in Washington in which he was going to go 4 / 4 and post the 1.000 OPS
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
I’m with you. I think he’ll be over .900 a few times but 1.000 seems a bit lofty.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
Could happen
I would be pleasantly surprised, but not shocked
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
1. Considering that he very nearly did it last year, it is certainly possible that he has a .400/.600 season in it.
2. I don’t EXPECT it. I hope it will happen.
3. The elephant in the room is that Kemp’s season last year is kind of an outlier thus far into his career. All we can do is hope for the best.
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
I can see him walking 80 times and hitting over 40 HRs. That would just about do it.
BFDC - January 27, 2012
or maybe he’ll walk 70 times, but hit 45 HRs, and have a .380/.620-ish line.
BFDC - January 27, 2012
Right
Michael White - January 27, 2012
2011: .399 .586 .986 [He raised his OBP .89 from 2010!]
I’m not sure he’ll ever improve on that line.
kinbote - January 27, 2012
sorry Nolij
.089
kinbote - January 27, 2012
that really is like, 2 fly balls dropping for doubles, or one diving catch not being made.
G.Scott - January 27, 2012
and a time machine
kinbote - January 27, 2012
Beltre and then Kemp
Ivdown - January 27, 2012
Last Dodger to do it: Beltre.
Next Dodger to do it: Votto.
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
rec whore
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Let’s ask the Cincinnati fans what they think of my comment.
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
probably what we thought of them
When they thought they could get Kemp from us
Tommy Blackjack - January 27, 2012 via iPhone app
“Jonny Gomes and Homer Bailey for Kemp should work”
G.Scott - January 27, 2012
Kemp will do it next
When the new owner builds the new, more hitter-friendly Downtown Dodger Stadium.
David Young - January 27, 2012
That will make Kershaw’s 1.87 ERA in 2018 even more amazing.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
I’ll allow it
Michael White - January 27, 2012
This is interesting
ESPN now considers mobile the “first screen” (mobile→TV→computer) as opposed to the third screen it’s usually designated as.
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
why?
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
maybe
kinbote - January 27, 2012
kit
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
kat
Tommy Blackjack - January 27, 2012 via iPhone app
bloody bunch of wankers, the lot of ya : )
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
because they think it’s the future or whatever. What this mostly means is we’ll see more twitter segments on ESPN, and probably some app integration with the main programming
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
I’m a twitter with excitement
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
“Cher not dead” is trending. What a country!
kinbote - January 27, 2012
this has been neglected, I enjoyed it
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
I don’t think interesting means what you think it means.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
When I say shit like that I’m considered mean and cranky.
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
at a time when SB Nation is trying to get on the tube, it’s interesting that ESPN is trying to get off it : )
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
For the record, I found it interesting.
fbihop - January 27, 2012
thank you
right now SB Nation mobile is an attempt to distill the web presence to a smart phone. Now you have ESPN, which sees the smartphone as key as opposed to a necessary evil. I find that at least mildly interesting as someone who has an interest in SB Nation’s future.
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
you qualify for category A
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
I would find it interesting if I was
A) In media
B) had a B2C business that targeted the likely audience
C) Was interested in that kind of content over any medium
Since A and B are not me, and C is certainly not me – I don’t care what they consider what
I am already dead, with talk like this
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
I would find it interesting if I gave a shit about anything or anybody.
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
I love reading about new media. Probably because I’m kind of in it but far from the cutting edge. Always try to see how I can jump on trends before they reach all the way down to my level.
fbihop - January 27, 2012
ESPN
wants to be the platform for web-streaming. The leagues where they license sports programming from want to do it themselves.
A battle will start with the next wave of agreements.
bhsportsguy - January 27, 2012
I'm not sure they really want to move all their content to web streaming
they get too much money from the cable companies right now. I can’t imagine what ESPN would charge a month for all their content available for streaming, it would be a lot.
nolander - January 27, 2012
They don’t want to move all their content to web streaming but they want to secure the rights to as much web streaming as possible.
fbihop - January 27, 2012
which makes sense
there are a lot of sports out there, too much too fit on even 3 channels. You can say many things about ESPN, but they aren’t stupid, not even Skip Bayless. They know what they are doing. Ok maybe Bayless.
nolander - January 27, 2012
Dan LeBetard.
fbihop - January 27, 2012
I'm sticking with the brilliant trolls angle
they know the shit they are saying is stupid, and turn it up to 11 because it sells.
nolander - January 27, 2012
yes
when there is no news, create news through the peddling of inflammatory and often stupid opinions
the war for eyes, look at me, listen to me, tell me I am wrong
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
I sent you a DM the other day, but after watching the LeBetard/Sonnen interview, I find Sonnen hilarious. I don’t think you’re a fan though.
He’s going to smash Bisping.
Michael White - January 27, 2012
I hate Sonnen. He’s a douchebag and an idiot. He claims to be undefeated even though he lost to Silva by triangle and lost to Demian Maia.
He’s a felon. He’s a cheater.
I know he says things to be deliberately inflammatory, but he’s still an asshole.
And, yeah, he’s going to destroy Bisping.
I need to check my DMs at @3_2count more. And by that, I mean ever.
fbihop - January 27, 2012
The undefeated claim is obviously just theatre. I used to think he was an ass when I read transcripts of what he said, but once I started actually seeing or hearing the interviews, it was obvious he was joking.
Tomorrow night I like Evans, Sonnen and Maia. Not exactly going out on any limbs there. Tough draw for Weidman to fight Maia on short notice.
Michael White - January 27, 2012
I think the Weidman-Maia fight will be interesting. Haven’t seen much of Weidman, but we’ll see if he wants to go on the ground with Maia.
Also will be interesting to see if Davis can take down Evans. If he can’t, its gonna be a short fight.
Unless Bisping has some serious submissions from his back, which I doubt, its gonna be a boring fight.
fbihop - January 27, 2012
Davis couldn’t take down Nogeria easily, Jason Brillz could. He’s got no chance against Suga.
I don’t even remember Bisping even attempting a submission at any point in the UFC so he’s gonna get punched in the head from guard for 15 minutes.
regfairfield - January 27, 2012
I have a feeling that Davis worked a lot more on wrestling for this fight than he did for Noguiera. Still a really young fighter, room to improve. At least, that’s what I’m hoping for. I don’t really have any animus against Evans, but I like Davis more.
Basically because of that one crazy catch-wrestling submission he did against Boetsch.
Seems like Bisping’s whole jiu jitsu is based on getting back to his feet and he’s pretty good at that.
I would have really liked to see Bisping-Maia and Munoz- Sonnen.
fbihop - January 27, 2012
I actually think Bisping beats Maia in what would have ended up being a kickboxing match.
Davis has also been on the shelf for almost a year now due to injuries so that hurts too.
Michael White - January 27, 2012
Maia has been getting better and better in his stand up, so I would have been interested in seeing what he did against a good boxer with not much power.
fbihop - January 27, 2012
Also, Evans’ only fight since Rampage in 2010 months was Tito Ortiz. And Ortiz isn’t even a top-30 fighter anymore.
fbihop - January 27, 2012
Strike “months” from the record, please.
fbihop - January 27, 2012
I actually like both these matchups a lot better. I think Munoz/Sonnen would have been a lot like Munoz/Okami which was just awful to watch. At least here I get the satisfaction of watching Bisping lose and if he does win, I get to see Anderson Silva punch his head off.
Weidman/Maia is a huge test for Weidman but his at least solid and wrestling trumps usually, but Maia is on a completely different plane from what Weidman has faced and we might actually see Weidman finish someone. I feel like Bisping/Maia feeds right into Bisping’s game plan and he would have just out pointed him on the feet.
regfairfield - January 27, 2012
Me too
I’m on constant lookout for new media streams that I can work to make sure Nolander doesn’t steal.
mleadman - January 27, 2012
HITNG?
David Young - January 27, 2012
I'm interested in the future implications
nolander - January 27, 2012
What is “B2C business”?
David Young - January 27, 2012
Business to consumer
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Ah, thanks.
#NotABusinessGuy
David Young - January 27, 2012
You just do the leg work :)
Tommy Blackjack - January 27, 2012 via iPhone app
me too
We live in a digital age and its nice to see someone trying to catch up with the times.
nolander - January 27, 2012
xxx
Since testing was instituted these are the players who have had an OPS+ > 170 as Kemp did last year. To get an OPS of 1.000 playing at Dodgers Stadium, he’d be in HOF territory considering he’s a CF. Mostly First Baseman on this list with Bautista, Chipper, Arod, and Hamilton breaking the mold.
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 1/27/2012.
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
I’d like Verlander to tell me again why he deserves the MVP since no one else on his team is worthy of it.
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Jesus H...
Miguel Cabrera was so amazing last year
Ivdown - January 27, 2012
“I was better”
-Justin Verlander
Tommy Blackjack - January 27, 2012 via iPhone app
Yeah he fucking was
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Either times really have changed
Or Dodger Stadium really helps Kemp’s OPS+, as Kemp is the only sub 1.000 OPS player on this list.
Ivdown - January 27, 2012
Both
Taylor Maricle - January 27, 2012
Ah, The Sad Ballad of Travis Hafner . . .
kinbote - January 27, 2012
Or the league offense could simply revert to 2010 (or 2009) levels and Kemp’s 2011 season would be > 1.000
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
Would he not also regress with the rest of the league? Why he stay constant while everyone else regresses?
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Kemp would stay the same relative to the rest of the league.
2011 was the lowest offensive year in MLB in 19 years.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
Using the Baseball-Reference neutralized batting tool
2011 Matt Kemp with Dodger Stadium as his home park in …
2010: 1.001 OPS
2009: 1.007
2008: 1.025
2007: 1.053
2006: 1.061
2005: 1.020
2004: 1.022
2003: 1.017
2002: .995
Have to go back nine years to find the last year Kemp’s 2011 season would have produced an OPS under 1.000.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
When did they build the new seats in foul territory?
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
A Frank innovaton
I’m guessing 2006
mleadman - January 27, 2012
2005
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
Welcome to Oakland…
silverwidow - January 27, 2012
This was my comment:
What are you arguing with me about?
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Not arguing. Just pointing out Kemp’s season in 2011, in eight out of the last 10 years would have produced an OPS of 1.000 or higher. He just happened to break out in a season in which offense was at its lowest level in nearly two decades.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
The relative mediocrity of the league, hittingwise, doesn’t affect Kemp’s hitting. His breakout season was his breakout season. In a better offensive climate, his OPS+ declines, but his OPS wouldn’t have changed.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
Mediocre hitting, or dominant pitching?
Michael White - January 27, 2012
No
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
How does other hitting being better make Matt Kemp’s hitting better?
Nolij - January 27, 2012
There are fluctuations in park factors from year to year too, and other smaller changes like schedules (mostly interleague) that affect the environment.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
but what Nolij and myself are saying is his on base percentage and slugging percentage aren’t affected by someone else’s at bats. his OPS+ would be affected, but not his OPS, and we were asking about having an OPS of 1.000 not an OPS+ of 171. The league doesn’t affect his percentages, simply his relative rankings.
G.Scott - January 27, 2012
The parks he plays in and the teams and pitchers and defenses he plays against affect Kemp’s percentages. Those aren’t constants.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
I’m constantly confused
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Constant Comment
kinbote - January 27, 2012
Houston WhiteShoes Johnsons
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
what?
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
wat?
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
clink?
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
kit?
fbihop - January 27, 2012
BLOODY WANKERS
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
If it’s bloody, you’re doing it wrong. Loosen the grip.
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
Brits can’t even beat off properly
mleadman - January 27, 2012
Houston Nolanders
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Kit and caboodle
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Neither are the other hitters.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
I admit this makes no sense to me.
kinbote - January 27, 2012
doesn’t that only affect OPS+? what others do doesn’t affect him going for extra bases or taking a walk.
G.Scott - January 27, 2012
so if he were to stay at +171, his OPS would have to be..ok I get it now
G.Scott - January 27, 2012
Interesting………
Only eight IBB’s for Arod and Votto
Only five for Hamilton
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
protection
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
“Also third basemen.” — Leyland/Dombrowski
Nolij - January 27, 2012
You know who is not on this list………….
Prince Fielder
but Carlos Pena is, Derrek Lee is. Tis shocking
Chipper Jones owned at age 36
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Goddamnit Hafner
nolander - January 27, 2012
As Paul Harvey would say
the rest of the story is that James Franco got his bachelor’s degree at UCLA
USC upset at new web-series
bhsportsguy - January 27, 2012
awesome
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
No games tonight for me to cover, other than “Drink The Beer,” at which I am a champion.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
you covered the fuck out of that UCR – LB tilt last night. Good work.
delias man - January 27, 2012
I think my laptop may have a virus. Was having a shitload of internet trouble with Firefox when I was writing that, and was ready to throw my computer against a wall.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
you prolly got the virus here!!
delias man - January 27, 2012
I picture delias man pointing to his profile picture as he says that.
fbihop - January 27, 2012
not sure if you were around
but there were some issues with SB Nation and viruses a few months ago
delias man - January 27, 2012
I’m going to uninstall and reinstall Firefox tonight and see if that helps.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
Using the above table, Chipper Jones had an OPS+ of 176 at the age of 36. In the history of baseball for qualified batting title plate appearances only three players have ever done this.
Babe Ruth did it twice.
Who is the other player?
One hint, post WWII season
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Ted Williams?
fbihop - January 27, 2012
Nope
2nd Hint
he is still alive
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Barry Bonds
nolander - January 27, 2012
Hank Aaron
nolander - January 27, 2012
I did not count Bonds 2001 season but he did do it.
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Not really alive, at least as we understand it
mleadman - January 27, 2012
not having a soul must suck
nolander - January 27, 2012
It’s pretty cool
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
he says, with kitten drippings runny down his greasy chin
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Williams or Musial
mleadman - January 27, 2012
Stan the Man it is
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
I honestly thought Stan Musial had gone to the Field of Dreams in the sky.
fbihop - January 27, 2012
While it was awesome to see him in some pics last year with Pujols and the Cardinals last year, Stan the Man does look very, very old. It will be sad when he is gone.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
I can till no one reads what I say:)
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
don’t blame the reader
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Project Prospect has released their top 100 prospect list and the Dodgers don’t fair well.
Zach Lee at 60, Eovaldi honorable mention.
regfairfield - January 27, 2012
Well they did this just to make me lose my argument to you didn't they!
lol
Ivdown - January 27, 2012
You could argue that Yu Darvish shouldn’t count and he’s really 59 :)
regfairfield - January 27, 2012
#winning
Ivdown - January 27, 2012
These contestants on Baseball IQ are pretty lousy
it is a very frustrating show to watch, although I am sure it is difficult for the people on stage.
delias man - January 27, 2012
Yeah. You’d think each team would have better nerds.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
part of me rejoices that they don’t
seems pretty useless that info, for bringing value to the team today
but yeah, I would have guessed better
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
guy needed one answer to win
all time NL HR leaders and blanked out with Barry left on the board!
delias man - January 27, 2012
And Sammy Sosa, and Chipper Jones, who had already been answered twice in that same game.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
Reds nerd 1: Should we extend Joey Votto until 2020?
Reds nerd 2: Pat Borders was World Series MVP in 1992.
Reds nerd 1: But is he a comp. Let’s focus on Votto.
Reds nerd 2: Dennis Martinez is in the top-14 of winningest foreign-born pitchers.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
Article about Nolander's topic
A point made at the end in how having a family changes viewer’s habits
Note, I did not use the word interesting.
bhsportsguy - January 27, 2012
This misses the point so bad it hurts. I’m willing to pay way more then 7.99… but I want to be able to choose the content I pay for. I don’t want to be paying a bunch of extra money for content I don’t want or need.
nolander - January 27, 2012
the marketplace!
Cable today is like a food subscription that dumps a bunch of shit off at your house every day. You have to pay for all of it, whether you want to eat it or not
Nolander wants instant Pink Dot, just bring me the stuff I want baby
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
That would be great
but that day just is not coming
delias man - January 27, 2012
To bad because I agree. I would like a 25 Roster package. Each month I pick the 25 I want for $100 a month. It would became a family night where everyone gathers around their Ipad and does a draft of the 25 stations from each of their bedrooms.
The cable stations have to market to me, to get me to pick them.
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
you can already get most shows online either through hulu or itunes or amazon
just sometimes at an obnoxious markup. Netflix is going to be the next HBO, and HBO will have to adapt to keep up. Its going to be a long rough road, but its going to happen.
nolander - January 27, 2012
The reason I like Roku is because I choose which stations I want.
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
yeah but that is a hassle
keeping laptops open, charged, having cables all over the place I am tired just thinking about it.
delias man - January 27, 2012
Maybe you have mono?
fbihop - January 27, 2012
huh?
delias man - January 27, 2012
Stereo is the way to go
mleadman - January 27, 2012
Marty, need a ruling
quadraphonic
the shit or not the shit?
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
we’ve added at least 3 speakers since those days
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
Not the shit. Invest in two really good speakers, you’ll be happy
mleadman - January 27, 2012
cracked me up
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
But not lupus.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
Can’t yell at someone for having lupus.
fbihop - January 27, 2012
YOU BOOGER-EATING MORON
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
First and Foremost, let us praise the freedom to be able to yell
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
I resent that you can use Moron and I can’t use Retarded since Moron was simply the word for Retarded back in the day.
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
The Houston Resenters
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Poor Meercat has created a monster :D
EMDarrow - January 27, 2012
and dumb meant mute, everything changes
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
and everything stays the same
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
“Hahahaha that guy was named Dummy Hoy old school baseball was awesome….wait that was pretty fucked up”
regfairfield - January 27, 2012
Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm
Nolij - January 27, 2012
more and more devices have the ability to access htis content built in
smart tvs, roku boxes, ps3, xbox 360, etc. The problem is they still don’t let a lot of content stream to their devices(which is what makes Hulu plus so shiity). The future I dream of doesn’t require an htpc, but i’ll have one anyways.
nolander - January 27, 2012
Netflix streaming to the PS3 is only bested by the MLB.TV streaming to the PS3.
fbihop - January 27, 2012
Yep, have both going to my Roku. It just about all I need.
OB12 - January 27, 2012
But how will you play Call of Duty!?
fbihop - January 27, 2012
Netflix is pretty nice
I was just disappointed yesterday, I bought a HDMI adapter for the ipad, hooked it up and fired up HBO To Go and got a message that HBO won’t let you do that.
Bullshit
mleadman - January 27, 2012
LOL
delias man - January 27, 2012
yep
fuck em.
nolander - January 27, 2012
seriously though
this House of Cards show sounds like it could be amazing.
nolander - January 27, 2012
I also don’t know that a la carte would be inherently better. Yeah, there are only a handful of stations that I’d want to subscribe to, but those stations wouldn’t be charging their current subscriber fees directly to the consumer. If a la carte got adopted, I have to think they’d ask for, and receive, a lot, lot more than they currently get (albeit from far, far fewer subscribers). I gotta believe I’d be paying something close to what I currently pay for satellite — and receiving far fewer networks.
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
You could also sell individual shows
which they mostly do now. The only thing that they really refuse to put out there is HBO and Showtime content till a year later, and sports. Sports is the golden goose.
nolander - January 27, 2012
Also, you actually want things that you didn’t know you wanted. I would have never guessed that I would want Bravo, but I dig Top Chef. I was able to check out Portlandia with minimal investment because IFC is already there. I agree that the whole spate is probably the way to go.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
I like when I discover something unexpected on a channel I normally don’t watch
I’d hate to lose the ability to expand myself
if everything is made just for you, you become more and more like yourself…..awfully fucking narrowing
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
It wouldn't be hard for them to offer free episodes as demos
hell they already do.
nolander - January 27, 2012
Sounds like incest with yourself.
David Young - January 27, 2012
most people just call that masturbation
nolander - January 27, 2012
I would also like this menu for health care and that aint happening either
(not sure if that counts as politics)
BFDC - January 27, 2012
BZZZZZZT
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Drunk Pat Sajak likes this.
kinbote - January 27, 2012
Tom Bergeron’s twitter joke on this was that it was no big deal when he had done six years of Hollywood Squares with no pants on.
David Young - January 27, 2012
fascinating!
Btw – nice seeing you last night. I hope you like your Natalie original, that puts you in a select group
I love that wine. Every time I drink it, I want more. I was so ready for another bottle last night, but didn’t have the legs under me to pull it off
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
this is disturbing on some level. Johnny I don’t want to play catch with you, go watch Hannah Montanah instead.
nolander - January 27, 2012
trust me
you need to give your kids some TV or you would never get mundane shit like washing dishes or sweeping the floor done.
delias man - January 27, 2012
if kids are not good for labor, then what are they good for at all?
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
If you can’t sweep the floor using your kid you are raising them wrong
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
the decline of America
Could it be when we started valuing our children’s happiness over their usefullness?
Discuss
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Damn child labor laws!
kinbote - January 27, 2012
Perfect
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
im like 2 years away from that
delias man - January 27, 2012
they can work younger than you think
if this was a farm in the 1880s they’d be working
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
If this was China 2011 they would be working
\hummaruledon’tfuckwiththenarrative
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
all he is good for right now
is stocking the beverage center. and even after that i have to organize it.
delias man - January 27, 2012
spare the rod, spoil the child
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
thats what video games are for
nolander - January 27, 2012
video games are for dad
delias man - January 27, 2012
silly rabbit
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
INTERESTING JUST MEANS AROUSING INTEREST!
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
OK
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
like caps
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
CBS Sports fired editor Adam Jacobi for botching the Joe Paterno death coverage.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
accountability!
nolander - January 27, 2012
or he is just a fall man
DISCUSS
nolander - January 27, 2012
I don’t feel like discussing that
Michael White - January 27, 2012
Great teams of the past, the 1953 Brooklyn Dodgers.
I submit that this is an interesting read.
fbihop - January 27, 2012
Houston Chronicle is pimping for Peyton.
silverwidow - January 27, 2012
interesting
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
no its not
john mcclain is fucking terrible.
nolander - January 27, 2012
maybe
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
he is of the school of saying a lot of dumb shit, being wrong
and then later pretending he was right. He is also basically a PR tool for the team. He is also always wrong.
nolander - January 27, 2012
dude, I was just doing a thing where I replied “Interesting” or “maybe” to a bunch of shit
I am not sure I was really communicating as much as I was pissing
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
I know, I just hate the Comicle :)
nolander - January 27, 2012
Houston Comicle::Nolander=Denver Post::Underdog
underdog - January 27, 2012
boom
nolander - January 27, 2012
Hans Gruber thought that.
Then he died.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
hahaha
You know Hans Gruber was Alan Rickman’s very first movie role…at the age of 46!
Ivdown - January 27, 2012
theater is a thing
nolander - January 27, 2012
agree to disagree
fbihop - January 27, 2012
Ivdown - January 27, 2012
and btw
he was a fucking war hero so show some respect
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
let me know when he starts showing journalistic integrity
nolander - January 27, 2012
I was playing on the name
let go of the hate
it was poor reference
ah fuck it, yeah he is a dirt bag
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
nah he is a nice guy from what I understand
just a shitty journalist
nolander - January 27, 2012
Yippie ki yay
Nolij - January 27, 2012
HOUSTON CHRONICLE IS SHITRAG NEVER MENTION IT AGAIN
nolander - January 27, 2012
interesting
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
you have aroused my interest by yelling at me
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
“Oh do I have you attention now?”
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
Nolander does
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
“You can’t close shit, you are shit”
Josie Becker - January 27, 2012
Peyton is a girl’s name.
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
maybe
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Interesting
Michael White - January 27, 2012
It's the truth Ruth
Right now, Peyton is the 50th-or-so most popular girl’s name in the US.
It is also the 150th-or-so most popular boy’s name.
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
But “Manning” makes up for it.
kinbote - January 27, 2012
Houston Peytons!
OB12 - January 27, 2012
This meme better die soon or I’m going to start banning people
Michael White - January 27, 2012
do it do it do it
nolander - January 27, 2012
I’m enjoying it
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
me too
First and foremost, I maybe find it more interesting than most of the stuff I hate around here
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Combo!
OB12 - January 27, 2012
I wish this was pinball
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
this got a rec from me
Ivdown - January 27, 2012
You’re my favorite mod did I ever tell you that.
regfairfield - January 27, 2012
I got one in, I’m good now.
OB12 - January 27, 2012
The Houston Banned Commenters?
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
The Houston Buzzkill mods
mleadman - January 27, 2012
Houston Fave Five’s
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
your lucky you are who you are, or that may have been the one
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Tis amazing that a mod has the power to strip away four years of work with the nonchalance of the queen of hearts offing someone’s head.
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Speaking of that
How has Arnold Schwarzenegger never said “Let them eat..urinal cake” as a line before he kills a guy in a movie?
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
doesn’t he have to choke the guy to death by shoving a urinal cake in his mouth for this to work?
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Yes
Either that, or violently slam a dude’s head down against a urinal, simultaneously breaking his neck.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
that’s better, in my version the hero has to pick the cake out of the urinal, not very sexy
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Missed opportunity for True Lies
OB12 - January 27, 2012
Remember that one movie where he held the guy over a super-high drop and said something like, “This is my weak arm, Sallie”?
I’d like a remake where he says, “How about these park factors?”
kinbote - January 27, 2012
Moneyball 2?
OB12 - January 27, 2012
“Billy’s still in baseball, but he’s blind. Peter Brand has had a brain aneurysm that required a lobotomy, but he’s still employed by the A’s…….”
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
I wonder what that feels like. ;-)
David Young - January 27, 2012
oof
nolander - January 27, 2012
USC basketball is now down to 6 scholarship players on the active roster. Very possible they go 0-18 in conference play.
Two worst teams in Pac-12 battle Saturday night, and of course that game is televised.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
Former USC scholarship basketball player
Lil Romeo is now starring in IDC college commercials.
ishXdavid - January 27, 2012
Is this the worst USC bball team ever?? I think some HS teams could probably beat these fools. Thank you lord I dont care about SC bball that much.
uschris0304 - January 27, 2012
Can someone give Oneal and his drunk wife the boot already? Where we gonna go with him here?
uschris0304 - January 27, 2012
I thought you didn’t care about USC basketball?
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
It’s a Miner sport to him.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
Splunking
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
+1
ishXdavid - January 27, 2012
lol, well, I slightly care, just like I sorta care about SC baseball too… It was fun watching SC win the College WS vs CS Fullerton…. SC baseball has been worse then basketball, but Kreuter is gone now thank god….. But just think they could get someone better then Oneal. Cant spend all this money on a new arena just to suck balls.
uschris0304 - January 27, 2012
are you trying to plant the seeds for a teabagging again?
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Stop that metaphor!
kinbote - January 27, 2012
What’s a meta for?
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
Guarding Clippers
Tommy Blackjack - January 27, 2012 via iPhone app
Or just World Peace
Nolij - January 27, 2012
Plus, we need a decent bball team so we can chant “Just Like Football” thats the best part about college basketball lol
uschris0304 - January 27, 2012
Wait, what?
When did USC ever beat CSF in the college world series?
ishXdavid - January 27, 2012
Let him go
Chris is on a roll.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
Yeah. Let’s go get ’em!
Nolij - January 27, 2012
you are right… my bad…. it was Arizona ST… did we play them in that tournament? or maybe they beat us the year before, it was awhile ago.
uschris0304 - January 27, 2012
You’re talking that Morgan Ensberg team? Damn, that’s old school.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
I must have missed the news on this one, but I generally don’t have a problem with drunk wives. Unless they are the belligerent drunk type.
David Young - January 27, 2012
O’Neill got into an altercation before a game in the Pac-10 tourney last year. His wife was involved.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
DONT WORRY EVERYONE
LB and Fullerton are also on TV!
delias man - January 27, 2012
I will be watching that one.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
I will be attending
and much happier about it too since i have a WIFI password now because there is no 3G inside that place.
delias man - January 27, 2012
Whats years did you go to LB State? My bro went there too….
uschris0304 - January 27, 2012
I went to a D3 school, dont care about their sports. So i have been with the local team for the longest time.
delias man - January 27, 2012
Finally I can find a reason to root for LB
nolander - January 27, 2012
I was looking at USC’s stats and saw of bunch of 300s in their rankings. The Pac-12 is abysmal this year.
kinbote - January 27, 2012
talking about Hoops or baseball?
It’s incredible how far the PAC has fallen in hoops. Just 4 years ago, the PAC sent 7 teams to the tournament and had 3 of the first 5 picks in the NBA draft. Now, they might only send 1 team to the tournament.
ishXdavid - January 27, 2012
Not a single vote for the top 25 in either poll last week.
Probably will only get two teams into the NCAA tournament, and that might be one too many. The conference is the worst I have ever seen.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
Oregon barely beat USC at home lol
kinbote - January 27, 2012
The only time I see HJ happier than how he was when he
talked about the winery in Sicily that produced last night’s wine is when he talks about Kershaw
bhsportsguy - January 27, 2012
Both are yummy
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
wait, that didn’t come out right
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Yes
I believe only Ellen Kershaw can honestly say that.
bhsportsguy - January 27, 2012
Craig!
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
meercat
has to get his mind out of the Valley
bhsportsguy - January 27, 2012
He shall fear no evil
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
I kid because I love
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Hah. Tripping Olney, you so cray cray
underdog - January 27, 2012
you’re name, that’s what not right. Grown man calling himself Buster, on national TV no less, let’s start with your name and then we can move on to the rest of the worlds ills
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Yea, looks like we will have a Super Bowl Pool
Only 26 squares left, fairly sure they will be mostly gone by this weekend. Going to be a fun one.
20 Buy in
$200 Payout 1st Qtr
$300 Payout 2nd Qtr
$400 Payout 3rd Qtr
$600 Payout Final Score
Reverse Combo Payout
$25 Per Qtr
Adjacent Square to winning Combo
$100 per Qtr ( 4 * 25)
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
how does one buy in?
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
With money.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
Houston Rubles
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Methinks his "we"
is his workplace
mleadman - January 27, 2012
I despise floating pro-nouns
I nearly fired a guy who could not stop saying “they”
I never knew who the fuck he was talking about
I’m looking at you Phil
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
we = friends of phil
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
something about this sentence just doesn’t seem right
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
fine
we = friend of phil
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
thanks
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Would you like a square?
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
anyone but Paul Lynde
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Charles Nelson Reilly over Paul Lynde. Interesting choice…….
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
You get Bruce Vilanch
Nolij - January 27, 2012
He likes the corner.
kinbote - January 27, 2012
Methinks one time moderator Brendan Scolari’s Yahoo email has been penetrated.
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
I got so much, all of it nothing
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Must be his bosom buddy.
kinbote - January 27, 2012
Brandon Weeden
Apparently he kicked some major ass this week during the Senior Bowl stuff and now he’s projected as a 1st rounder.
A 28-year-old first round pick. Unbelievable.
silverwidow - January 27, 2012
proving once again just how hard baseball is
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
It’s incredibly hard.
fbihop - January 27, 2012
That’s . . .
kinbote - January 27, 2012
Would be higher than Weeden was drafted in baseball (2nd round, 2002).
And higher than Chris Weinke was drafted in football (4th round, 2001).
But will Weeden go higher than Charlie Ward did in the NBA draft (26th overall, 1994)?
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
Tony Gonzalez was drafted highly in football. Julius Peppers was drafted even higher.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
Man, Julius Peppers should have earned a doctorate.
Or perhaps dyed himself orange. Orange Julius Peppers! He’d make a fortune.
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
Or both! Dr. Orange Julius Peppers!
fbihop - January 27, 2012
Dr OJ!
mleadman - January 27, 2012
Call him Juice!
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Charlie Ward should have tried baseball
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Higher and Weeden
just seem to go together
mleadman - January 27, 2012
Biggest questions about him are age and arm strength
if he can show arm strength isn’t an issue that helps him a lot
nolander - January 27, 2012
more relevant than you might think...
can he carry TV’s?
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
or be a barista?
David Young - January 27, 2012
A word that need to be used more:
Milquetoast
fbihop - January 27, 2012
Methinks Milquetoast is a fine word with a short runway
I prefer Toastermilk, easy way for busy Moms to serve a hot breakfast the whole family can enjoy, the vitamins and minerals to keep the kids at their best all day long
Toastermilk
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
What I tell the kids every morning
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
Sounds like you need some Toastermilk
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Be… Sure… to… Drink… Your…. Toastermilk? Son of a bitch!
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
I found two TVs last night on the street
They are both 27 inch, flat screens (box style). Don’t know if they work yet but will be testing tomorrow. Wish me luck.
silverwidow - January 27, 2012
Be careful the latest gag is to put bobbytraps in tv’s and leave them out on the streets.
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
In silverwidow’s house, television watches YOU!
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
very good
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
you didn’t happen to notice a bunch of looters running about – did you?
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
True story
I was just coming home from work after picking up 5 chili dogs. Literally two blocks from my house I notice this fairly nice sets (Samsung and Sharp) and just had to pick them up. My arms hurt like a bitch today though.
silverwidow - January 27, 2012
because this is how my brain works
where’d you put the chili dogs?
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Excellent question.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
I rec’d this before I saw there were actually chili dogs in the story!
kinbote - January 27, 2012
ha ha
Friday’s seem to get the best work. You could pretty much take off all week and just read Friday except they involve callbacks gleamed from a weeks work.
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
This is classic
BFDC - January 27, 2012
Two TVs and 5 chilli dogs. Impressive.
OB12 - January 27, 2012
we call this a "Comeup"
delias man - January 27, 2012
My best is two turntables and a microphone.
OB12 - January 27, 2012
Were you hanging out with Beck?
BFDC - January 27, 2012
OB12 is secretly Van Morrison and he’s still super pissed about him stealing that riff.
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
Loser.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
5 chili dogs?
How’d you settle on that number?
Michael White - January 27, 2012
how do you not settle on that number?
nolander - January 27, 2012
5 for 5 at Der?
The Stuntmen - January 27, 2012
he ate 4 the previous day and found himself still a mite peckish
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
an homage to Josie
not reeeped off
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
peckish, when simply hungry will not do
The Stuntmen - January 27, 2012
Silverwidow goes big and he goes home. With two TVs.
regfairfield - January 27, 2012
The beginning of your book.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to heaven, we were all going direct the other way – in short, I was just coming home from work after picking up 5 chili dogs.
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
God damn, I am not writing another word.
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
he sure beat the dickens out of that one
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
And of course, the title of this work is “Assail of Two Titties.”
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
David Cop-a-feeled
Nolij - January 27, 2012
Full disclosure
I had two chili dogs and chili cheese fries from The Der the other day.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
I had a giant chili dog from fuddruckers last night
nolander - January 27, 2012
DOGZILLA
nolander - January 27, 2012
and you're still alive
that’s a good sign.
Xeifrank - January 27, 2012
I had a crappy ass carnitas burrito today. Or rather, it was good, but i’m in a foul mood. Today sucks.
kinbote - January 27, 2012
so you have a tacoma too?
delias man - January 27, 2012
Good luck.
kinbote - January 27, 2012
so I couldn’t resist the bargain basement price. I am a season ticket holder for the first and probably last time
The Stuntmen - January 27, 2012
the best you ever had
congrats
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Good luck with the ticket resales.
David Young - January 27, 2012
LOL, it’s not even spring yet. I have hope. Hope spring eternal
The Stuntmen - January 27, 2012
The next line of that poem cuts the legs right out from under you: “Man never IS, but always TO BE blessed.”
As in: Keep dreaming, sucka.
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
“hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies”
The Stuntmen - January 27, 2012
It never asked a crumb of me.
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
The Stuntmen - January 27, 2012
Has there ever been any players signed out of Cuba that were straight up bad? I’m sure there were but I can’t think of any.
regfairfield - January 27, 2012
yes
don’t ask me who, I can’t remember them, because they were bad
but yes
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Livan Hernandez
The Stuntmen - January 27, 2012
over 25 have a career WaR less then -.5
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Cuba
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 1/27/2012.
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
If you move that list to when full sanctions began in 1992 all those names drop off.
regfairfield - January 27, 2012
Sure, was just answering you original question. Not the question of have any Cubans been signed since sanctions went into effect who have been godawful bad.
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Yeah I see the list but when I think “signed out of Cuba” I don’t think guys that were just born there, I think going straight from defection to the bigs.
I’m sure some of the guys on the list count for that but damned if I know who.
regfairfield - January 27, 2012
Orestes
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Just checked him, came over when he was six.
regfairfield - January 27, 2012
I thought the Yankee’s signed a Cuban 3rd baseman who never even made it to the major leagues a few years back
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Wouldn’t surprise me.
regfairfield - January 27, 2012
Wasn’t Fidel Castro a baseball prospect who didn’t make it, returned to Cuba, and started a revolution?
If that’s not the case, it should be.
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
Had a tryout with the Senators, of all teams.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
It turns out that this story falls under Stephen’s Corollary to Humma’s Second Law, which makes it absofuckinglutely true.
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
The Less You Know
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
™
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
if a butterfly farts in sri lanka then a hurricane wipes out greenland
if some scout liked Fi-fi’s deuce, the Cuban Missle crisis never happens
I love this shit
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Or, he infiltrates Washington from the inside and we’re all speaking Cuban now, bitches.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
Viciendo will test this
But I can’t really think of any
Tommy Blackjack - January 27, 2012 via iPhone app
Ariel Prieto!
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
The ones that come out with a fair bit of hype seem to at least put together several good seasons.
OB12 - January 27, 2012
Rey Ordonez was a dreadful hitter
Nolij - January 27, 2012
Career OPS+ of 59. Holy crap.
fbihop - January 27, 2012
Hi s oWAR was -5, but his dWAR was +5.6.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
Still made the cover of Sports Illustrated!
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
So that’s what happened to his hitting.
fbihop - January 27, 2012
Is there going to be one practice for this softball game? If I am going all the way over there I want to win.
delias man - January 27, 2012
that’s what I’m saying!
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
We will win at least one game
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Anyone enjoy the Milk commercial with the mom shaking the hell out of the alternative milk?
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
no
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
bitch don’t like Toastermilk
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
It made me think though. Milk is only homogenized because of some chemical process and does still settle a little bit. One would think soy/rice/almond/soylentgreen milk could do something similar as well, right?
Nolij - January 27, 2012
Things I never expected to be doing in 2012, drinking Almond Milk on an everyday basis because I like it.
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
it is great in cereal
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
great with protein powder
nolander - January 27, 2012
I’ll even pour some in my coffee
but I highly suggest that you DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT, use it as a milk replacement in scrambled eggs. not so good
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
I’ve used it in omelettes
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
I tried using it in mac and cheese
it came out… weird
nolander - January 27, 2012
I would very much like to see the process that turns hard nutty almonds into alternative milk.
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
boom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhlwtHA6MSg
nolander - January 27, 2012
ah, that age we live in, instant gratification
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
apparently the answer is
1)blend
2)strain
3)there is no 3
nolander - January 27, 2012
4) profit
kinbote - January 27, 2012
hey, she’s cute and who can not love a cute girl wearing a shirt that says
Eat Raw
Live Long
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
I vote YES
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Live Raw, Eat Long
Nolij - January 27, 2012
take it to 2:30
nolander - January 27, 2012
It’s five o’clock somewhere!
Nolij - January 27, 2012
It’s Lima Time somewhere.
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
Sometimes I’m simply a dolt and I will not embarrass myself by explaining how doltish I can be
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
if only you had used the word nuts instead of almonds
BFDC - January 27, 2012
easy, this is still family hour
after dark doesn’t start until 2:30
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Its after 3pm for me
BFDC - January 27, 2012
report from my sales ops manager
She shared an elevator with Vanilla Ice
I repeat, Vanilla Ice is in my building
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
What is it like to share an elevator with a melting dessert on a windy day
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Hollywood Joe, living the life.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
Offer him some Toastermilk
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
Like as a janitor or something?
regfairfield - January 27, 2012
you win
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
You should stop what you’re doing, so you can collaborate with him. Make sure to listen to his ideas though.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
Stop what I’m doing? This is what I’m doing….
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
ha ha
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Then I also don’t have to ruin the style and the image that you’re used to.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
Hm… three of the biggest pop-hip-hop songs circa 1991 (Ice Ice Baby, Humpty Dance, U Can’t Touch This) all prominently entreaty the listener to Stop. That must mean something, unless as Vinny says, it means absolutely nothing.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
Maybe people were too busy to notice the parachute pants.
OB12 - January 27, 2012
ninja, ninja, RAP!. Go ninja go ninja GO
uschris0304 - January 27, 2012
He and MC Hammer were the worst sucker MCs in history :)
kinbote - January 27, 2012
Has the Kroenke buys Dodgers / Rams to LA possibility already been discussed here ad nauseum?
BFDC - January 27, 2012
nope
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
I’m ok with the Rams staying gone, even though they are now playing games without Frontieres.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
Forbes wrote an article about it, mostly trying to imply that the Rams are coming back to LA
BFDC - January 27, 2012
I think there is a better shot
at the Rams coming to LA than Kroenke buying the Dodgers.
bhsportsguy - January 27, 2012
Why? Seems like he’s got as good of a shot as any other group out there…
BFDC - January 27, 2012
So wait
SW brings home 5 chili dogs and two tvs and he won’t know if the tvs will work until he gets home tonight?
bhsportsguy - January 27, 2012
I knew there was something missing with that story
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
It takes time to eat five chili dogs
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
Gotta wait for the chilli dogs to work their magic.
OB12 - January 27, 2012
Charles Dickens didn’t call it the season of Darkness for nothin’.
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
his toilet
Bleak House
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
I’m trying to come up with another Dickens diarrhea reference, but the best I can do is “Martin Chuzzlebutt.” Not sure that’s gonna cut it.
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
from anyone else that’s a quality play
we’ve come to expect great things from you
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Please, sir, I went some more.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
better, that is from
Oliver Twisted Bowels
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Reading this line might be the highlight of my day.
kinbote - January 27, 2012
your day does suck
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
The Trojan Nanobots will have taken over by the time he gets home tonight.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
Lost a huge deal this morning
Should I take up drinking? If so, what should I drink on a Friday afternoon when my bank account took a huge hit?
Just Jake - January 27, 2012
sizzurp
BFDC - January 27, 2012
King Cobra
nolander - January 27, 2012
White Russians made with Toastermilk
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
god bless you everyone
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Something that ends in the word “ice”
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
Chivas on the Rocks
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Almond milk
Nolij - January 27, 2012
Just Jack
Nolij - January 27, 2012
what if he’s straight?
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
If he hasn't drank before
I would suggest vodka mixed with some fruit juice, screwdrivers, greyhounds, etc.
bhsportsguy - January 27, 2012
Vodka+greyhound sounds like something Cruela de Vil might drink.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
I am telling you – I know “I lost a deal” drinking
Whisky, not too expensive, ice to give yourself some reprieve, and no mixers so that you taste the alcohol
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
I was just reminded that I am not allowed to drink the coffee
Because coffee is for closers.
Looks like alcohol is my only option.
Just Jake - January 27, 2012
ouch
nolander - January 27, 2012
yeah – you don’t even get Steak Knives
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Not even Kershaw Knives?
www.kershawknives.com
kinbote - January 27, 2012
I dont think alcohol will do the trick… this sounds like a job for drugs, hard drugs
uschris0304 - January 27, 2012
pixie stix it is
nolander - January 27, 2012
take one hit of this shit, and you’ll be like, mothafucka, what account???
uschris0304 - January 27, 2012
Clearly heroin is the only option. Good advice there, Ann Landers.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
LOL
Michael White - January 27, 2012
so
when did you add the perpetual TWSS tag line?
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
Some day when I’m retired if USCHRis is still alive I’m going to party with him for one night
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
hahaha SWEET!!! Yeah ill be alive…. Only the good die young, im aint eligible for that.
uschris0304 - January 27, 2012
FourBroko
kinbote - January 27, 2012
Spot the serial killer
http://www.malevole.com/mv/misc/killerquiz/
jim hitchcock (railway) - January 27, 2012
8/10!
Hollywood Joe - January 27, 2012
7/10
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
6/10, but I mis-clicked on David Berkowitz, so it should have been 7. Thought that last guy was BTK.
David Young - January 27, 2012
My score was lower. It was suggested that I should not pursue a career in law enforcement.
jim hitchcock (railway) - January 27, 2012
Why does Spawn need a tetanus booster to play T-ball?
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
The league’s insurance policy says so?
BFDC - January 27, 2012
T-ballers are notorious for chewing and biting
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Second base is a rusty nail.
Nolij - January 27, 2012
they are just discriminating
Sue.
delias man - January 27, 2012
Speaking of litigation, how goes your tussle with HR?
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
Nasty dugouts
Michael White - January 27, 2012
Dickensian Diarrhea
kinbote - January 27, 2012
Houston…
Nolij - January 27, 2012
Larry Bowa’s grandkid slides spikes high.
David Young - January 27, 2012
“Daddy, that boy is mean.”
“I know, Spawn. I know.”
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
TBLA Trivia
BhSportsguy may not play, nor may the mods
What was David Youngs screen name before he became a Mod?
What was Eric Stephens Dodger THoughts Screen name before he became TrueBlueLa’s Editor?
What was Michael White’s screen name before he became a Mod?
What was Chad’s original Dodger Blog called before he choose Memories of Kevin Malone
What was Regfairfeld original Dodger Blog called before he became a past editor of TrueBlueLa?
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
El Lay Dave
Eric Stephen
mtwhite06
Fire Ned Colletti Now
?
silverwidow - January 27, 2012
damn
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Wrong
Michael White - January 27, 2012
Close enough though, right?
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
I award silverwidow no points
Michael White - January 27, 2012
and may God have mercy on his soul.
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
He had
a good runthe runs.kinbote - January 27, 2012
Fire Ned Colletti Now is wrong but with the right idea
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Never mind
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
Fire Ned Colletti in the Immediate Future
Nolij - January 27, 2012
The subtitle of the blog:
Fire Ned Colletti….because he sucks
Michael White - January 27, 2012
Was Dave
ELaYDave
OB12 - January 27, 2012
1) El Lay Dave
2) Eric Stephen
3) Not sure
4) Fire Ned Colleti
5) Dodger Math? Or something like that
BFDC - January 27, 2012
I was hoping my trick Eric Stephen question would stump you all for a moment.
meercatjohn - January 27, 2012
I notice you didn’t ask what your screen name was on Dodger Thoughts. Too easy?
Humma Kavula - January 27, 2012
comment refresher
http://www.truebluela.com/2012/1/27/2753140/clayton-kershaw-warren-spahn-award-arbitration
Eric Stephen - January 27, 2012
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