Here is the next part of my Dodger minor league countdown. There are definitely some interesting players in this group, including a couple of guys from the DSL who could be headed to the US soon. It's usually around this point in my list that people start to have opinions about whether I should have ranked players higher or lower, so feel free to let me know what you think.
90. Jackson Mateo, RHP (72.1 IP in DSL in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers 11/13/09
6’0”, 193 lbs, 19.5 years old
5-1, 1.62 ERA, 0.93 WHIP, 3.32 FIP, 6.47 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: 75; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
After an outstanding professional debut in the DSL as a 17 year old in 2010 (1.23 ERA and .169 batting average against in 22 innings), Jackson Mateo got even better in 2011 for the Dominican Dodgers. After spending 2010 in the bullpen, Mateo transitioned into the rotation this past season and made a team high 15 starts while posting eye popping numbers. His 1.62 ERA ranked 2nd out of all Dodger minor leaguers in 2011, and his 0.93 WHIP was the best in the entire system. He also was among the DSL League Leaders in those two categories, and again was virtually unhittable with a .190 batting average against. The only thing Jackson didn't do well in 2011 was strike out batters, but that didn't seem to matter as he found other means to get the outs he needed throughout the year. I was unable to find any scouting reports on Jackson despite his two impressive seasons in the DSL so I have no idea how hard he throws or what type of pitches he has, but he must have something special about him to possess a career ERA of 1.53. Now 19 years old, Mateo will almost certainly move to the Arizona Rookie League in 2012 since he has nothing left to prove in the DSL. His performance in Arizona should give us a better idea of what type of future Mateo has with the Dodgers.
89. Andres Santiago, RHP (121.2 IP in HiA in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2007, 16th round
6’2”, 200 lbs, 22.25 years old
8-5, 5.03 ERA, 1.63 WHIP, 3.79 FIP, 8.36 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: 107; Pre 2010 Rank: 147; Pre 2009 Rank: 133
Andres Santiago was drafted out of Puerto Rico in 2007 at the tender age of 17, and spent his first four professional seasons in the Dodgers lowest US based rookie league (2 season in the GCL, and two seasons in the Arizona League). After posting a 2.18 ERA with the Arizona Dodgers in 2010, Santiago was promoted all the way up to the Rancho Cucamonga Quakes and he surprised a lot of people by logging 121.2 innings, which was 3rd most on the team. He was in the Quakes’ rotation for the majority of the year, and while his ERA and WHIP were a little high, he had a solid K/9 of 8.36 and his FIP was 3.79 despite playing in the hitter friendly California League. He also won the Dodgers Pride Award in June when he posted a 2.97 ERA and won 3 games. I wasn’t able to see him pitch in 2011 and I didn’t find any good scouting reports on him so I don’t know how hard he throws or what type of pitches he has, but he has a solid pitching frame and is still just 22 years old despite having 5 years of professional experience. Santiago seems to have turned into a sleeper prospect heading into 2012, and since he probably isn’t quite ready for AA he will most likely spend another year with the Quakes where he’ll try and improve upon his stats.
Follow the jump for #'s 88 - 81

88. Scott Woodward, 3B/OF (34 games in Pioneer Rookie Lg in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2011, 7th round
6’2”, 205 lbs, 23.25 years old, bats left handed
.219 average, .781 OPS, 4 HR’s, 12 RBI’s, 4 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Scott Woodward was originally drafted in the 15th round by the Oakland A’s in 2010 after his junior season at Coastal Carolina, but he decided not to sign and went back to college for one more year. During his senior season in 2011 Woodward had a very solid campaign as he hit .342 with 4 homers, posted an outstanding .480 on-base percentage, and stole 31 bases (in 35 attempts). Upon getting drafted by the Dodgers, Woodward said “I'm very happy with the outcome. I went back to school, got closer to getting my degree, played a lot better, got drafted higher. Everything went according to plan." Scott signed quickly with LA and was assigned to the Pioneer League where he played just 34 games before his season ended on August 10th for an unknown reason. His offensive stats weren’t very impressive, but he did show a good eye at the plate which helped boost his OPS. In the field he split his time between 3rd base and left field, but his fielding at the hot corner was terrible. He made 10 errors in 45 chances at 3rd base for a .778 fielding %, so that makes me wonder if he’ll be able to handle that position going forward. Overall, my first thought was to write-off Woodward because of his lackluster season in the hitter friendly Pioneer League. However after doing more research and seeing Blake Smith rebound after his terrible professional debut, I’m going to give him another season before passing judgment. In addition I found some scouting reports that said he has plus speed with good gap power, and someone even compared him to former Dodger prospect Joe Thurston. Despite his struggles with the Raptors my guess is that Woodward will get promoted to the Loons for 2012 where he’ll continue to split time between the infield and outfield.
87. Miguel Sulbaran, LHP (57.2 IP in DSL in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers before the 2011 season
5’10”, 165 lbs, 18 years old
6-1, 2.81 ERA, 0.95 WHIP, 2.89 FIP, 8.12 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Miguel Sulbaran is the third youngest player in the Dodgers organization, but that didn’t stop him from having a very impressive season in his professional debut. Playing the entire season as a 17 year old for the Dominican Dodgers, Sulbaran was among the team leaders in several statistical categories, with his most impressive stat being his 2.89 FIP. He also limited left handed batters to just 2 hits for the entire season, and overall had a remarkable .179 batting average against. The highlight of his season probably came on August 3rd when he threw 6 no-hit innings and had 8 punchouts. One other notable thing about Sulbaran is that I was actually able to find online articles about the Venezuela native. That’s significant because most players in the DSL don’t have anything written about them, so Miguel must have something special about him. Anyways, in one article I found a quote from Sulbaran where he said “I received much help from Ramon Martinez (former major league pitcher and Cy Young brother Pedro Martinez), and I reached 89 miles with my fastball, I improved my command with the curve and slider.” I also read that the Dodgers wanted Sulbaran to attend their offseason instructional league in Arizona, but it didn’t sound like he was able to get a visa in time. Overall, I’m pretty excited about this lefty and I wouldn’t be surprised if the Dodgers promoted him to Arizona in 2012 despite his youth. My only concern with him would be his size, but he’s still so young that I’m sure he could still grow and add some MPH to his fastball.
86. Christopher O'Brien, C (4 games in Pioneer Rookie Lg, 42 games in Arz Rookie Lg in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2011, 18th round
6’0”, 219 lbs, 22.5 years old, switch hitter
.292 average, .852 OPS, 4 HR’s, 35 RBI’s, 3 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Chris O'Brien had a very interesting college career. The son of 15 year MLB veteran Charlie O'Brien was very average during his freshman and sophomore seasons at Wichita State, then struggled mightily in the 2010 Cap Code League with a .197 average and just 3 extra base hits in 137 at bats. Then something clicked for O’Brien in 2011 as he really turned things around as a junior. In his final season with the Shockers Chris hit .410 with 10 homers, 25 doubles, and 70 RBI's and was named as a semi-finalist for the Golden Spikes award. What was most impressive, however, was his 40 to 18 walk to strikeout ratio. O’Brien signed quickly after being selected in the 18th round of the 2011 draft and made his professional debut with the Arizona Dodgers where he split the catching duties with a few other players. He put up solid stats all season long in Arizona with a .855 OPS and 33 RBI's in 42 games, and he also showed good plate disciple. In terms of his defense, Baseball America said before the draft that “he has fringy arm strength and receiving skills, though he does earn high marks for his ability to call pitches and run a pitching staff.” His defense was pretty strong in Arizona, however, as he threw out 34% of would be base stealers. The switch-hitter earned a late promotion to Ogden this past season, and that is probably where he’ll spend 2012 because there are quite a few other young catchers who are waiting in line to play for the Loons next year.
85. Michael Pericht, C (2 games in HiA, 92 games in LoA in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2009, 16th round
6’5”, 235 lbs, 23.75 years old, bats right handed
.277 average, .795 OPS, 11 HR’s, 38 RBI’s, 2 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: 68; Pre 2010 Rank: 90; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Pericht played at Saint Joseph’s College in Indiana, and as a junior he hit .337 with 12 HR’s to go along with a 1.046 OPS. Going into the 2009 draft he was very excited, and was quoted as saying, “Right now, I'm trying to stay as calm as possible. It's exciting and it's nerve-wracking. I kind of feel like a duck on the pond right now.” He was selected by the Dodgers in the 16th round, signed quickly, and was assigned to the Arizona Rookie League. After a lackluster debut in Arizona, Pericht moved up to the Pioneer League in 2010 got off to a very hot start for the Raptors as he hit all 9 of his homers for the season before the end of July. While he slumped to end the 2010 season, he still managed to finish the year with a .832 OPS. That earned Michael a promotion to the Midwest League in 2011 where he spent the year as the Loons’ primary backstop. “Big Mike”, as he was called by his teammates, didn't have an overly impressive season at the plate, but he was solid for most of the year with 11 homers and an OPS of almost .800. Here’s a video of one of his at bats. Probably the best news from Pericht’s season, however, was that he has continued to show improved catching skills which should allow him to remain behind the plate. Some worried he would eventually move to 1st base, but he was strictly a catcher in 2011 and while his blocking skills behind the plate still need some work, but he threw out 32% of would be base-stealers. Pericht actually ended the 2011 season by playing 2 games in Rancho Cucamonga, and that is where I expect him to start to the 2012 season. Given his size and the fact that the California League is so hitter friendly, I could see him having a breakout season with the Quakes which would really put his name on the Dodgers radar.
84. Will Savage, RHP (141.1 IP in AA in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers 2/2/10
6’4”, 215 lbs, 27.5 years old
12-6, 3.95 ERA, 1.25 WHIP, 3.75 FIP, 5.54 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: 119; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Will Savage was born in Southern California and attended El Camino Real High before heading to the College of the Canyons to start his college career. After spending 2 seasons as a Cougar, Savage transferred to the University of Oklahoma and posted a 16 and 6 record between the 2005 and 2006 seasons. His play was good enough for the Phillies, who selected Will in the 26th round of the 2006 draft. After 3 solid seasons in the Phillies organization, Savage was promoted to AA for the 2008 season. However he was limited to just 6 games as he hurt his elbow, and that promoted the Phillies to release him. Savage eventually found himself with the Wichita Wingnuts of the independent Atlantic League where he spent virtually all of 2009. With the Wingnuts, Savage had a solid 2.94 ERA and even threw a no hitter. This caught the attention of the Dodgers, who signed Savage before the 2010 season. Despite being 25 years old at the time, the Dodgers assigned Savage to LoA where he thrived against the younger competition and made the mid season All Star Team. He eventually moved up to HiA, and then finished the year in AA. In 2011 Savage returned to the Lookouts and was a mainstay in their rotation. His 23 starts ranked 2nd on the team, as did his 141.1 innings. Despite a very low strikeout rate (which was right in line with his career rate) Savage posted a solid FIP for the year and actually had the 2nd best WHIP in the entire Southern League among qualifying pitchers. In terms of his stuff, I actually haven’t found much on Savage besides an old article that said his fastball was clocked as high as 92 mph. I don’t know much about his secondary stuff, but it must be somewhat impressive given that the Dodgers re-signed him this offseason and invited him to their big league spring training. Given his age and experience, he seems like a perfect fit for Albuquerque’s rotation in 2012, and he could also serve as an emergency starter for the Dodgers.
83. Bobby Coyle, OF (98 games in LoA in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2010, 10th round
6’1”, 215 lbs, 23 years old, bats left handed
.250 average, .671 OPS, 9 HR’s 44 RBI’s, 3 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: 64; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Bobby Coyle is a local boy who played his high school ball at Chatsworth, but was overshadowed by 2007 first round picks Mike Moustakas and Matt Dominguez. Out of high school he was drafted by the Indians in the 19th round, but decided to attend Arizona instead. After putting up mediocre stats in his first two seasons with the Wildcats, Coyle decided to transfer to Fresno State and received a NCAA waiver which allowed him to play right away (instead of having to sit out a year). As a junior Coyle had a great season for the Bulldogs, co-leading the team with 69 RBI’s and hitting .360 with 11 homers. After getting drafted by the Dodgers he didn’t immediately sign, but tipped his hand a little when he told the Fresno Bee “I grew up in the L.A. area, and it's sweet and exciting to be taken by the team I watched as a kid.” Coyle eventually inked a deal with $95,000 and was assigned to the Pioneer League in late June. Bobby played all three outfield positions for the Raptors, and ended hitting .316 while leading the team with 52 RBI’s. That earned Coyle a promotion to Great Lakes in 2011, but this year he was used almost exclusively in left field. His overall season stats for the Loons were average at best, but I watched his swing during the year and I can tell that does have the ability to generate quite a bit of power from the left side of the plate. I also saw him hit a few deep homers this past season, and he makes good contact as he struck out in just 16.3% of plate appearances. Probably his biggest issue is that he struggles against left handed pitching as he hit just .222 against lefties in 2011 and didn’t have a single homer against southpaws. For 2012 I expect Coyle to join the Quakes. There is something about him that I like, and I expect him to have a better offensive season in the hitter friendly environment of the California League.
82. Tim Sexton, RHP (78.2 IP in AAA, 84 IP in LoA in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2007, 25th round
6’6”, 185 lbs, 24.75 years old
6-12, 5.48 ERA, 1.54 WHIP, 4.30 FIP, 6.31 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: 53; Pre 2010 Rank: 40; Pre 2009 Rank: 57
Tim Sexton had a strange season in 2011. One year after splitting the year between AA and HiA, Sexton began the 2011 season with the Loons in LoA, which is a level he hadn’t played at since his professional debut in 2007. Then in late May Tim was promoted all the way up to AAA where he spent the next 2+ months and made 14 starts for the Isotopes. While in Albuquerque Sexton had a few good appearances, but for the most part he got knocked around including one game in which he allowed 17 hits and 16 earned runs. He returned to the Loons in August and had a relatively strong finish to his season, but the damage he endured with the Isotopes marred his overall season ERA. Also, left handed batters torched Sexton as they hit .355 against him. The one plus about Sexton is that he is truly a workhorse as he ranked 2nd among all Dodger minor leagues with 162.7 innings pitched in 2011, and has logged an average of 147 innings in his four full minor league season. In addition, he is still just 24 years and has a great pitching frame, so he still may be a useful player for the Dodgers down the road if he shows some improvement in 2012, which I’m guessing he’ll spend in AA. Finally just to provide a little background on Sexton, coming out of Miami Dade Community College he was projected as a third to fifth round pick in the 2007 draft, but many teams stayed away from him when he reportedly asked for a $500,000 signing bonus. The Dodgers took a chance on him in the 25th round, however, and were able to sign him for $123K.
81. Raydel Sanchez, RHP (75.1 IP in Pioneer Rookie Lg in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers prior to the 2011 season
6’0”, 205 lbs, 22 years old
4-5, 4.66 ERA, 1.39 WHIP, 3.81 FIP, 9.20 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Raydel Sanchez is a Cuban pitcher who defected to the US during his Cuban team’s tournament in Edmonton, Canada. After his defection Sanchez attended Miami Dade Junior College, then he played in a baseball league in Colombia before getting a tryout with the Dodgers in Los Angeles. He eventually signed with the Dodgers for $125K. Upon signing, Raydel said “It was a very hard decision, because I had to leave my family behind, but like all Cuban baseball players, I wanted to realize the dream of playing professional baseball in the United States. It was very difficult, but I did what I wanted most. I signed as a professional, and now I'm with the Dodgers." Sanchez’s professional debut came in the Pioneer Rookie League where he was one of the main starters in the Raptors’ rotation. Raydel made a team high with 15 starts and led the Raptors 75.1 IP. He had a couple of outstanding outings, including a 11 K performance in just his 2nd start as a professional, but his overall season stats weren't all that impressive. One area in which he did stand out, however, was his strikeout to walk ratio which was better than 4.5 to 1. His biggest weakness came against left handed batters, who hit .372 against him compared to just .220 vs right handed batters. In terms of his stuff, Sanchez’s best pitch is his slider, but I’m not sure how hard he throws his fastball. He’ll probably spend 2012 with the Loons where he’ll get his first look at a full season league.
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great stuff as always Brandon
Some interesting fellows in this batch
Tommy Blackjack - January 30, 2012 via iPhone app
Definitely, thanks again
I’m really rooting for Bobby Coyle, it would be awesome to have all 3 of the major players on that Chatsworth team make the majors.
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
who cares
delias man - January 30, 2012
um, I don’t
but I can see why someone might
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
People who went to Chatsworth?
fbihop - January 30, 2012
Clearly not I, the one who wrote it
I can see why you wouldn’t want someone to do good enough to make the majors for the Dodgers though, screw that.
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
you would be better off rooting for him because his name is Bobby
delias man - January 30, 2012
I enjoy your reasoning for thinking that no one should care
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
I do, having watched them play High School ball it would be cool.
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
I really would have liked to have seen them play, but I lived like 2 blocks from the school and every morning I’d drive by and see the sign for state champs I think it was and just though it was really great that a local team was doing that.
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
If Bobby Coyle makes it, he can have a special section at Dodger Stadium for The Friends of Bobby Coyle
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
He should have
a podcast or something called “According to Coyle”
David Young - January 30, 2012
Goldstein released his prospect rankings.
At least our middle relief is gonna kick serious ass.
regfairfield - January 30, 2012
value!
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
volume!
Tommy Blackjack - January 30, 2012 via iPhone app
Or your middle relievers are FREEEEEEEEEE!
Lex in Brooklyn - January 30, 2012
I’d be more disturbed if the impact talents like Rubby and Gordon had not been promoted last year.
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
Also Sands.
OB12 - January 30, 2012
Can’t wait for Rubby to return.
kinbote - January 30, 2012
This time . . . it will be personal!
OB12 - January 30, 2012
I guess our best hope is for Castle to be an offensive 2nd baseman but I suspect we will find why the Cardinals moved him to the outfield if he gets to many reps at 2nd.
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
total faith in Skip Schumaker.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Even worse, if your major league 2nd baseman is Skip Schumaker and you have someone who is playing 2nd, you’d think they would have kept him there if he had any chance of sticking.
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
Besides, with new ownership we are going to be the West Coast Yankee’s so who cares about prospects anyway:) We will become everything Selig feared when O’Malley put them up for sale the 1st time.
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
I’d be okay with flirting with the luxury tax. I’m still going to lament bad contracts, but it’s more fun to sign Juan Pierre and Andruw Jones and have hope than to watch Jason Repko.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
make closers
trade overvalued closers for actual valuable players because other gms are stupid
profit
nolander - January 30, 2012
2) build time machine to 2001
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
3) have sex with your aunt and make a cousin who is also your son
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
there is clearly something wrong with me
I watched about an hour of Jackass 3.5 last night, not a good idea
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
the first hour or the last hour?
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
somewhere in the middle
Mrs HJ is never more disappointed in me than she is when she sees me literally crying watching Jackass
I have never watched Jackass without being reduced to tears
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
laughter or pain
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
laughter
I cannot see someone getting hit in the head without laughing. Sad but true
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
to laugh at someone being hit in the head is to be human
nolander - January 30, 2012
there was one shot were this guy does a flying two legged kick into the other guys head
I was choking
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
And little kids swearing and old people rapping?
Nolij - January 30, 2012
do they get hit in the head too?
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
when they had the giant hand covered in flour that hit wee-man in the face in I believe Jackass 2, I was busting up laughing.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Kuroda weeps. And not from laughter.
fbihop - January 30, 2012
see, that just made me laugh
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
It’s incredibly hard to imagine that you are married with the seemingly bachelor life that you live
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
don’t have kids!
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
In other news, Bride and I partied all night long last night.
Wait, did I say partied? I meant calmed a crying baby.
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
oh fuck, I just remembered I had a daycare dream and these kids kept sliding down stairs on folding chairs and tripping into potato salad and other terrible things. Don’t run a babysitting service for multiple kids by yourself.
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
I was tutoring my cousin yesterday and she was watching some show on MTV called “Ridiculous” or somesuch, which makes Jackass look tame. I only caught like 2 minutes of it and it makes me want to delete the whole channel from my viewer guide.
Nolij - January 30, 2012
BOOM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_8wrRa7Qgk
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Or if you prefer
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
When is the last time the Dodgers traded away a valuable reliever
The only one that comes to mind is Mota in 04 and that was by a smart GM.
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
ned is going to be out of a job soon so
nolander - January 30, 2012
Replaced by Ed Wade!
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
Octavio Dotel :)
Nolij - January 30, 2012
that’s World Series Champ Octacio Dotel, to you : )
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
No one noticed, but I nailed it.
Four-Star Prospects
1. Zach Lee, RHP
Three-Star Prospects
2. Nathan Eovaldi, RHP
3. Allen Webster, RHP
4. Chris Reed, LHP
5. Garrett Gould, RHP
6. Chris Withrow, RHP
7. Alfredo Silverio, OF
8. Joc Pederson, OF
9. Alex Castellanos, OF/2B
10. Angel Sanchez, RHP
11. Shawn Tolleson, RHP
Guesses
Lee
Webster
Eovaldi
Silverio
Reed
Withrow
Pederson
Sanchez
Castellanos
Miller
Tolleson
@TElciram
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Taylor Maricle - January 30, 2012
NEVERMIND.
Taylor Maricle - January 30, 2012
Forgot to delete Miller when i added Tolleson.
Taylor Maricle - January 30, 2012
We can promote the future Matt Guerreir’s of the world instead of overpaying for them
VeroJoe - January 30, 2012
There is another solution for this…
regfairfield - January 30, 2012
signing the matt guerriers of the world as NRIs for nothing?
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
i wish we could promote the fture Miguel Cabreras.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
There aren’t that many of those out there.
fbihop - January 30, 2012
people don’t wish for things that happen frequently.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
I wish I had slept better last night.
fbihop - January 30, 2012
insight
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
I hate to tell you this: the Dodgers will have the future Matt Guerriers AND sign the free agent Matt Guerriers!
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
But we'll be able to afford an entire bullpen of them
And still put together a good lineup.
Taylor Maricle - January 30, 2012
Clippers Thoughts
Clippers are 2.5 point favorites tonight at home against the Thunder. Let’s see if they can turn the corner tonight. :)
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
That’s a tough line. Clipper fanboy aside, I’d probably lay off that bet. Clips had a tough game last night and ended up getting a great win, but the starters logged a lot of minutes. Long flight back from Denver and right back into it tonight against the top team in the West.
It’s a winnable game, but I wouldn’t lay the 2.5.
Michael White - January 30, 2012
Should be a fun game to watch though, for this non-partisan observer
underdog - January 30, 2012
Plus the Thunder have been hanging in LA while the Clips were playing then traveling. As a betting person I’d take the Thunder and the points.
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
Thunder will win.
Lex in Brooklyn - January 30, 2012
maybe
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
kit
fbihop - January 30, 2012
long 2 hour flight.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
While I realize they aren’t travelling like you and me (private planes, priority security screening, etc.) I imagine it’s still a long-ish flight after a tough basketball game. That’s really the farthest the CBA allows teams to travel when playing a back to back. LA to Portland or LA to Denver/Salt Lake City.
Michael White - January 30, 2012
More importantly, they played a tough game in Denver, that always takes a toll so I’ve been told.
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
Yeah the game is gonna make for some tired legs.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
buy hyperbaric chambers for all the players to chill in on the plane
nolander - January 30, 2012
Thanks for the write up, some intriguing names here
I would indeed like to know even more about Mateo because we seem to lack enough young Latin players of interest and he has put up great numbers so far — except for the Ks, which makes one wonder about his stuff. Maybe more scouting reports will pop up for him soon…
Woodward is also interesting, will be curious to see how he progresses this year.
And I’m glad the Dodgers finally have some good catching depth in the org. Not like we have relievers, mind you, but… ;)
underdog - January 30, 2012
we have more future MLB backup catchers than anyone.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
The new market inefficiency
fbihop - January 30, 2012
Too bad they are all blocked ;)
kinbote - January 30, 2012
We need to have Mike Macfarlane serve as a roving minor league instructor to prepare them for the gig then.
Nolij - January 30, 2012
or him
Lex in Brooklyn - January 30, 2012
I’d be okay with Sal Fasano: Bench Coach/Moustache Afficionado
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Pericht and Sexton both seem like the organization doesn’t value them, even though they appear to have some value. As thin as the minors are in catching and older starting pitching, I would like both of those guys to be a level up from where they are.
Nolij - January 30, 2012
Right now
Erickson (AA) and Federowicz (AAA) are locked in at higher levels
bhsportsguy - January 30, 2012
I’m actually looking forward to seeing an Ellis/Fed catching duo this season. We’d have some damn good defense behind the plate. I expect Mr. Misty will be released sometime around June.
OB12 - January 30, 2012
If Ellis plays well
I can’t imagine that Treanor will play enough to warrant his dismissal.
bhsportsguy - January 30, 2012
I think it will be more based on Fed’s performance. If Fed plays well then I can see them wanting bring him up.
OB12 - January 30, 2012
Right
Whoever is the catching duo on opening day, at least one will not be with the team by August 1st.
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
Two Kavulapoints go to the best Matt Treanor/“Broken Wings” parody.
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
nice
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
What about Kyrie?
Nolij - January 30, 2012
Oh lord.
David Young - January 30, 2012
Catchers way a head of Pericht
FedEx
Erickson
Wallach
JT Wise
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
Pericht is a better hitter than Wallach and is more likely to be a major league catcher than Wise by virtue of his age. I guess I’d rather have him start at A+ than back up Griff in AA though.
Nolij - January 30, 2012
Sexton was in AAA last year and blew.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
chunks
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
and leads.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
If we discount hitter numbers on the moon, we have to do the same with pitchers too. As Brandon mentions, some of those numbers were killed by one outing where he had to take one for the team. That said, organizational fodder may be his ceiling.
Nolij - January 30, 2012
This is understandable
Though based off past performance and his peripherals for 2010 and 2011, wouldn’t it be safe to assume Greinke, especially going back to a pitcher’s park, could be just as good as Hamels and Cain (I think he would be better than Cain)?
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
I think you have to take anything Greinke has done with a grain of salt. How are you going to have a pitcher who stops throwing his best pitch simply because he thinks his team blows. Statistics work on the assumption of effort, so if he’s not giving his full effort every start, how can we know what he’s capable of? Assumptions are thrown out the window. How can you give someone a 6+ year deal if you’re not sure if he’s going to actually want to pitch when it’s his turn?
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Yeah, see, you could make the argument that Greinke is possibly just as good as Hamels and Cain by virtue of his peripherals, but wouldn’t you rather have the pitcher that has the peripherals AND the surface stats? That’s without even counting that Hamels is left-handed with a phenomenal changeup and control (read: will age better than the other two).
When you tell me the story of a starter in line for an ace-type contract who has 7 years at the MLB level, yet only once pitched like an ace, and mysteriously underperformed in the past two years and who’s fastball just lost an MPH last season….i would say run away and sign one of the other two guys who are at least as good if not better.
Taylor Maricle - January 30, 2012
This group still has just one player whose Brandon ranking has improved since pre-2011 – just like all the groups to date. I’ve been watching and waiting for that to improve. There are usually about 3 or 4 whose rankings have got worse since being tested, just 1 who has got better. Soon, soon… maybe.
berkowit28 - January 30, 2012
We probably shouldn’t be excited about 80+ prospects under even the best of circumstances. But I am enthused that the depth is such that there is even the potential to debate this low on the org list.
Nolij - January 30, 2012
I have yet to see anyone to debate about
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
I came here for an argument but am only getting abuse.
kinbote - January 30, 2012
Self abuse is the best
mleadman - January 30, 2012
Take it to the onanism thread.
fbihop - January 30, 2012
Onan the seed spiller
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Onan, what’s his name?
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Masaoka
Nolij - January 30, 2012
boooo
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
yeah, that would have been a tough first name for sure
hell, I think I’d be named Sue
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
i guess we’ve played out the rhianna jokes
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
More wah!
David Young - January 30, 2012
Cafe Wha!
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Houston Whas!
iiidown - January 30, 2012
If we are planning on doing a second team, I could probably get my friend Cory to join
If we need it anyway.
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
that is a no win team.
You win the whole thing and you won because “you had all dudes”
You lose and you get “You guys got beat by a team with girls”
No win
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
softball is a girls sport anyways
nolander - January 30, 2012
I am nodding like a bobble head in a 4 wheel drive on a rut filled dirt road
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
we couldn’t play a hardball tourney though. we’d get 6 people signed up and 3 would be you me and maddz
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
And we’d still have more players than the other blogs.
Nolij - January 30, 2012
and we’d be better looking for sure
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
I'm not looking to get Beltre'd out there
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
no one is going to hit a ball hard enough for that to be an issue
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
half of our girls outplayed half of our guys at the TBLA softball game
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
see
nolander - January 30, 2012
My crystal ball is very clear on these matters – that is a zero win prop
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
That's cause Nolander was playing LF ;)
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
I made at least 1 good play
maybe 2, it averages out!
nolander - January 30, 2012
as terrible
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
At least you didn't allow an inside the park home run like I did
To HJ I think actually.
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
that ball weighed 10 pounds
I don’t think I could hit that sucker any further
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
If you can get it over my head that's good enough for at least a triple
I didn’t inherit my dad’s blinding speed…actually I probably did from what he’s told me, hahah.
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
I did the same.
I hate playing outfield.
Taylor Maricle - January 30, 2012
Good points
But it’s all for fun anyway
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
I thought we had >20 people signed up already?
Nolij - January 30, 2012
i guess we need extras
the old timers cant play 3+ games
delias man - January 30, 2012
someone brings the greenies and I’ll play all day
er Starbucks and Advil I mean
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
they can rotate into catcher
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
I will not play catcher if there will be a string of old timers rotating into me. I am not sure what that means “To be rotated into” but I am confident that I don’t want that done.
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
it means “I’m tired”…“go play catcher”
you’re playing SS anyway
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
1 hour softball infield and throwing workout on Saturday then two hours of soccer in the sun Sunday morning and I had trouble bending my right leg enough to put on my shoe this morning. #Old
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
looks like a lot of ground ball singles up the middle by the second or third
inninggame of the dayHollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Luckily in softball/baseball you do a lot of standing around and I plan on popping out a lot to help pace myself. :)
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
OBE
David Young - January 30, 2012
Interesting. Could make the schedule messy with an odd number of teams. I wonder how they will run things. Three flights of (4, 4, 5) with the last group having to play an extra game or just not playing one of their teams in their flight. I know they were gauranteeing each team at least three games. Then maybe taking the top three winners, plus the top 2nd place team for a single elim? Not that it matters that much, just more of me being interested in how these things get scheduled and organized.
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
They should contract Dodger Thoughts thus giving us 12 teams
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
Oddly enough
that could happen as we are down a female. With the female has to play rule and not enough females signing up to play, I wonder what the ruling will be for a team not having enough females? Can’t we just replace female with male over 50 years old, or is that an insult to females? :)
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
nicely played
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Pat Burrell is retiring
Tommy Blackjack - January 30, 2012 via iPhone app
he retired 3 years ago, they just kept paying him appearance fees
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Ring in a box
Michael White - January 30, 2012
x2
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Should have taken the ring off before it got caught up there.
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
Take it to the “Jewelry Accidently Stuck in Internal Genitalia” Thread.
kinbote - January 30, 2012
file him with Matt Williams, a guy I would have liked had he not played on the teams he played for
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
and caused the 2010 World Champion Giants
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
I would have liked Matt Cain under different circumstances.
Nolij - January 30, 2012
Question
name the non-hall of famer who you most wish had spent his career with the Dodgers. Specifically, a player you always loved their game and wanted to root for, but never really got the chance to.
I think my player is Jim Edmonds.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Magglio Ordonez
Michael White - January 30, 2012
nice one
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Lance Berkman is another one, but I’m still holding out hope that he’s a HOF’er.
Michael White - January 30, 2012
Chili Davis
Willie McGee
Carlos Baerga
Lee Smith
Prince Fielder
The too laters
Nomar
Ziele
Lex in Brooklyn - January 30, 2012
Baerga always came across as a scumbag to me. Although I never met him.
delias man - January 30, 2012
It was an aesthetic thing to a young me….stocky switch hitter who was awesome and played a weird position for all of those things to be true
Lex in Brooklyn - January 30, 2012
and i forgot to add
Kent Hrbck
Lex in Brooklyn - January 30, 2012
Wheel of Fortune
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Lex saved himself $250!
Oh wait, he used an e in Kent. Damn!
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
this is tough - some of the guys came late
It might be Matt Williams
or 3 other 3Bs who run together in my mind
Robin Ventura – too late
Tim Wallach – too late
Todd Ziele – too late
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
I think I had it with Sheffield... liked him from day one in MIL
but I would go with Doc Gooden
delias man - January 30, 2012
Doc was HOF talent and Sheff should go
yes?
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
I would say that.
delias man - January 30, 2012
Sheff is borderline, ya
Michael White - January 30, 2012
david eckstein
nolander - January 30, 2012
mike reminded me HOF'rs aren't eligible so forget about Xstein
nolander - January 30, 2012
pedro martinez
nolander - January 30, 2012
Clear HOF’er
Michael White - January 30, 2012
oh right sorry
nolander - January 30, 2012
he might go to the hall
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
J. R. Richard
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
pre-stroke, the most terrifying opponent ever
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
love hearing him talk about his 98 mph slider
“The fastest slider known to man”
Tommy Blackjack - January 30, 2012 via iPhone app
I hated him out of respect
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Darryl Strawberry
Oh, wait…
Pure Azure - January 30, 2012 via Android app
yep
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Absolutely
My second favorite player ever. I think he’s a borderline HOFer, though I think he won’t make it.
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
I LOVED Ryno
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Larry Walker – loved him since he was an Expo
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Seconded!
iiidown - January 30, 2012
Bill Hall j/k
kinbote - January 30, 2012
Bryan harper
He went to my high school
delias man - January 30, 2012
Garret Anderson!
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Nelson Figueroa!
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
John Garland!
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Dave Parker
Nolij - January 30, 2012
Wally Joyner. My favorite Angel before I began hating the Angels.
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
My favorite Wally Joyner story might by apocryphal but I don’t care.
The Angels apparently instituted some policy of no alcohol in the clubhouse (I want to say the Jackie Autry era, but I can’t remember). Joyner is a Mormon and doesn’t drink, but he said one of his favorite things about baseball was hanging around after the game in the clubhouse shooting the shit with his teammates (he probably didn’t say shit). So right after the policy was instituted, Joyner came into the clubhouse with two cases of beer for his teammates.
I love that.
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
wow – never heard that story
awesome
so very cool
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Joyner makes me think JT Snow.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
David Justice.
OB12 - January 30, 2012
Nomar – oh wait
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
Manny – oh wait
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
Andruw Jones – oh wait
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
Tim Salmon
Jim Edmunds
Bobby Grich
Vlady
and Berkman, Larry Walker, Carlos Delgado, John Kruk, Bobby Bonds, Dwight Evans
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
If I say Bagwell will I get rocks thrown at me?
nolander - January 30, 2012
i was actually thinking from the beginning about who would be the one to make the joke about like Mark McGwire, Barry Bonds, whoever.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
I went back and forth on it
nolander - January 30, 2012
I think Derek Bell would have been fun to watch.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Until he wouldn’t have been.
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
What about the first G. Scott
George! That dude had awesome facial hair?
or George Bell?
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
There have been multiple Gary Scotts in MLB, and I used to have a baseball card of a Gary Scott on the Cubs.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Operation Shutdown
Nolij - January 30, 2012
I can’t help but laugh
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Pass
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
Run
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Todd Helton
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Will Clark, another guy I liked even though he was a Giant.
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
I really liked Will Clark, even though he screwed me over on my 1992 rotisserie team.
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
Crazy Eyes
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
Will Clark Vs. Mitch Williams were the best at-bats ever.
kinbote - January 30, 2012
I was going to say him too.
OB12 - January 30, 2012
I’m gonna be optimistic and say Bagwell and Biggio will make the Hall, so Mark Grace.
regfairfield - January 30, 2012
Barry Bonds
keithc13 - January 30, 2012
too easy
delias man - January 30, 2012
He fits.
Great player, won’t be in the HOF
keithc13 - January 30, 2012
i will bet you he gets in
delias man - January 30, 2012
I think he gets in eventually. Just not anytime soon
keithc13 - January 30, 2012
Then he doesn’t fit the criteria of the question
Michael White - January 30, 2012
Then mark my answer off and move on
keithc13 - January 30, 2012
I’m just disappointed that Barry Bonds was the player you most wanted to see as a Dodger.
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
right?
fuck that guy
nolander - January 30, 2012
Who would want the best player in a generation?
Nolij - January 30, 2012
in any generation
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
I'll take Ruth and Williams for 500 Alex
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
each were the best of their generation, Barry would have smoked both of them.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
You could argue that pre-roid Barry was better than Ted Williams.
regfairfield - January 30, 2012
But not until Barry did the cream and the clear did he pass Williams in SORP — Surly Over Replacement Player.
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
Barry never tipped his cap either, but that was because the cap was stuck on his giant noggin.
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
“Demon Spawn do not answer letters”
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
I think your average D2 hitter today would have hit .600 in 1941 MLB
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
foul
these discussions go nowhere
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Right. Didn’t know if that’s where you were going with this. If Bonds would have literally dominated in 1941.
Answer: Yes, but so would Jamie Hoffmann
Michael White - January 30, 2012
Right, that’s all I meant.
Can’t compare players, can only compare players to their eras.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
but not their era+, apparently.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
If you want to compare one number that doesn’t tell half the story from one player in one era to another player in a different era then sure it’s useful.
;)
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
Ted Williams second lowest career batting average was .316, FWIW.
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
Batting average? You’re going to talk to us about batting average?
Bobby please
Michael White - January 30, 2012
He brought it up first :)
If he had said "anyone could have wOBA’ed .565 in 1941 then my answer would have been about wOBA :P
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
blah
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Speaking of which, Ted Williams never wOBA'ed under .450 more than once
which was his second to last season.
Damn he was amazing.
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
Looking up stats of the inner circle hall of famers is fun once in awhile.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
I'm thinking I'll have a run through of Rogers Hornsby next
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
Read Bill James Baseball Abstracts before you do anything else. I mean this.
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
solid advice
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
I'll purchase that on friday
Sent myself a link for half.com for it.
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
Stan Musial is always a fun look up. Check out what the man did before age 24. He must have missed his age 24 season serving in the military.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
1815 hits at home
1815 hits on the road
keithc13 - January 30, 2012
Best part is that was no accident
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
I like Willie Mays
He played in the Negro Leagues and yet was in the bigs at age 20!!!
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Satchel Paige story was way more interesting
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
I like hitters
but I read the Satch book too
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
For Bobby's Benefit - Satchel Paige's Rules for Staying Young
Avoid fried meats which angry up the blood.
If your stomach disputes you, lie down and pacify it with cool thoughts.
Keep the juices flowing by jangling around gently as you move.
Go very light on the vices, such as carrying on in society—the social ramble ain’t restful.
Avoid running at all times.
And don’t look back—something might be gaining on you.
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
Posted by XVIIIdown in 2033
Matt Kemp hit .324/.399/.586 in 2011 and he would have been 40-40 except there was this rainout in Washington!
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
XVIIIdown is going to assume Ted Williams missed two season with Tommy John Surgery.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
I know you worship any ERA Bonds
So I won’t argue against it. Not that you don’t have an argument, though.
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
Everything I’ve heard about Ted Williams is that all he thought about was hitting, and didn’t give a shit about any other aspect of the game. So he probably showed less tools than Bonds.
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
he cared about fishing
he might have been the greatest fly fisherman of his generation
the Montville bio of him is awesome
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
He was a Marine!
/fromthehallsofmontezuma….
keithc13 - January 30, 2012
fighter pilot in TWO wars!!!
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Everyone’s so kind and humble
Don’t you know that I can see right through it
Keeping all their comments down
You know it ain’t a boast if you can do it
And everyone says “Say Hey”
And everyone says “did you see that kid play?”
I’ve got to give the kid a hand
But there’s nothing that he can do better than I can
I’m Ted Fucking Williams!
People say it’s hard to like a man
Who doesn’t fail and show he’s a human
But failure’s not a sign of grace
It only means you don’t know what you’re doing
And everyone says “hey Mick!”
Mantle this, Mantle that it makes me sick
It’s just so hard to see
Why do they like him better than me
I’m Ted Fucking Williams!
And everyone says “hey Duke!”
Like everything I did was some kind of fluke
I gotta give the Duke a hand
But there’s nothing that he can do better than I can
I’m Ted Fucking Williams!
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
Should have used Dimaggio
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
but awesome nonetheless
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
Ever wonder what Ted flew in WWII compared to Korea?
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
I just thought he played baseball and did a cool interview with Bob Costas and Tony Gwynn once!
/kids
keithc13 - January 30, 2012
Wiki knows and it lines up with what I recall
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
I had no idea
Make this item 616,730,244 that I had no idea about :)
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
Jesus, you kids live in a vacuum even though everything ever known to the galaxy is at your fingertips
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
There has to be a reason that I would know things like that, and there is no reason I would ever have known anything like that off hand, lol.
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
Bad parenting
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
I bet 3 Hybrid knows this stuff!
keithc13 - January 30, 2012
If it’s anything about math, most any history, english and literature, baseball, older pre 80s football, civil engineering, he will know it backwards.
And I know I’m selling him short right now too.
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
Disagree:
iii has been dropping tidbits like “Don, did you hear Koufax threw a no hitter? Yeah? Did he win?”
or
“Everyone knew when Koufax was going to throw his curve ball, yet no one could do a damn thing about it anyway.”
Sounds like a success to me!
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
HBO
had a Ted Williams doc a couple years ago. Watch it.
delias man - January 30, 2012
I fully support opening the Hall of Barry next year.
“You must be this good to enter”
/Picture of smiling Barry
Babe, you’re cool, everyone else get the hell out.
regfairfield - January 30, 2012
Even if you “just” got pre-steroids Barry from the Pirates.
Michael White - January 30, 2012
would have loved him pre or with steroids
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
That would be like rooting for Kobe
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
I can tell you from experience that it isn’t always easy rooting for Kobe
it is mostly fun, though requires you to do some soul searching every now and then
I have come to terms with rooting for Kobe based on his work ethic.
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
It’s like with Sheff. I can root for his skill and contributions to the team without particularly rooting for him. I can want him to do well and the team to do well without buying his jersey.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Even the Kobe fanboys on this blog wouldn’t say that Kobe is anywhere near as good at basketball as Barry was at baseball.
Okay, maybe they would say that. And they’d be wrong.
Michael White - January 30, 2012
If they did, they’d be incorrect
keithc13 - January 30, 2012
anywhere?
Barry maybe the best ever
Kobe is top 10 ever
not the same, but not like completely different classes of animal
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Ignoring the steroids question for Barry and the rape question for Kobe, Barry was a top 2 player all-time in a much older sport. Kobe’s probably a top 5 player of his generation.
Michael White - January 30, 2012
both me and Bill Simmons disagree with your assessment of Kobe’s career
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
What do Jack-O, House, and Sully think?
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
Cousin Sal thinks this is maddening
keithc13 - January 30, 2012
Calling him “probably a top 5 player of his generation” is just being rude.
Nolij - January 30, 2012
Would this generation be post Jordan, or include him? Otherwise I think he might be the second best of his generation, behind Lebron as far as pure talent.
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
the three of them are different generations, even though Kobe played against Jordan and LeBron.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
So you’re basically calling his peers, Shaq, Duncan, KG, Nash…
Michael White - January 30, 2012
I would, yeah.
DWade, Melo, LeBron, that’s a generation.
Jordan, Magic, Malone, Stockton, Reggie, those guys are a generation.
Kobe is Shaq, Duncan, Garnett. Personally, anyway.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Okay. So it’s not crazy (or rude) to say he’s probably top 5 in his generation, considering there’s some debate as to what qualifies a generation.
Michael White - January 30, 2012
Probably?
Nolij - January 30, 2012
Yes, probably.
If you think he is definitely top 5, cool. I’ll wait on Kobe until the dust settles a little bit so one doesn’t get mesmerized with scoring and championships (thanks to elite big men.)
Michael White - January 30, 2012
I thought it was all Phil
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
So Michael Jordan averages 30/6/5 for his career, Kobe averages 25/5/5, and Kobe is just a “volume scorer”? This sounds to me what the kids call being a hater.
Nolij - January 30, 2012
Jordan’s career numbers include his age 38 and 39 season when he was posting TS% in the 40’s for the only time in his career. I can’t wait to see how much more of a chucker Kobe gets to be as he ages and considering his usage percentage this season is the highest in NBA history, I’m thinking it’ll get laughably bad as he keeps playing. Like I said, I’ll wait until the dust settles on Kobe’s career.
The two player’s in their prime is not even close. Kobe had the benefit of playing with a super-human Shaq for his 3 championships so the Lakers could deal with his “volume scoring” tendencies. Jordan was putting up numbers like a TS% > 60% for 4 straight seasons. When you score that efficiently, you should arguably never pass the ball, but Jordan was still putting up an AST% in the high 20’s.
And for the record, I’m not a Jordan fanboy at all.
Michael White - January 30, 2012
He’s still the best of that group, but sure.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
I’d say he’s the worst
Michael White - January 30, 2012
Going back to the mid 90s then
Would it be correct to say the 5 best players in that time are
Jordan
Lebron
Kobe
Shaq
and Duncan?
Or would I be off base there
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
Jordan, Lebron and Shaq are definitely better. I think Duncan is definitely better too, but I know some will disagree with that.
I also don’t think history will remember Kobe as favorably as people do now. The statisical revolution in basketball is moving away from players who do what Kobe does (volume score) and moving towards guys like Garnett who were probably a bit undervalued in their day.
Michael White - January 30, 2012
is Peyton Manning better than Anthony Munoz
discuss
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Munoz can still walk.
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
Is Eli better than Peyton?
/slits wrists
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
kit
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Lebron was only drafted maybe 6 or 7 years later than Kobe, would they really be different generations?
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
in basketball years?
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
maybe
Nolij - January 30, 2012
because he was an asshole
fuck that guy
nolander - January 30, 2012
to quote nolander
fuck that guy
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
To quote Bobby,
fuck that guy
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
I hope this becomes a tbla meme
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
He was really good, IIRC.
That would be the only reason.
I’m not gonna lobby for Mike Greenwell, who was my favorite player growing up. I would just lobby for those who would make us better.
keithc13 - January 30, 2012
I thought the way the question was worded the answer for you would be Mike Greenwell
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
I didn’t read it well enough.
I’m not smart.
I loved mike Greenwell
keithc13 - January 30, 2012
Me too. Very poor man’s George Brett.
kinbote - January 30, 2012
Gator was a better nickname than Brett ever had.
Nolij - January 30, 2012
really?
overtime, Barry gets in
for sure
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Just not now was my point.
I think he gets in for sure in like 10 years.
Just not anytime soon
keithc13 - January 30, 2012
Bizarre prop bets that Vegas could do: Who makes it into the HoF first, Bonds or Pujols?
Nolij - January 30, 2012
Pujols
keithc13 - January 30, 2012
means you don’t think Bonds gets in the hall of fame at all. If Pujols retires in 10 years, 5 years to wait, he’s a first-ballot guy unless he comes out with steroids or something. Bonds is eligible next year? so if pujols gets in on Bonds’ 15th year…
My math could be off a bit.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Veterans committee
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
you think the MLB veterans are more likely to vote him in than writers?
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
After he’s dead.
regfairfield - January 30, 2012
Exactly. 60 years from now.
Michael White - January 30, 2012
assuming his livers don't fail before then
nolander - January 30, 2012
He’s got multiple livers? Is that a steroid joke?
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
Multiple Livers
Great name for a band.
keithc13 - January 30, 2012
2 livers, 1 kidney!
god got it wrong
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
liver, livers, they are all ruined by teh roids
nolander - January 30, 2012
I like chicken liver pate
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
VegasBlues wishes it was livers and not liver
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
No shit…
VegasBlues - January 30, 2012
The Veterans Committee is really just a name. The 16-member committee is made up of half Hall of Famers, a quarter executives, and a quarter media.
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
and you need what % of the vote?
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
75%
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
it’ll be interesting
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Veterans committee, but you’re mostly right.
A better question is Pujols or Mariano?
regfairfield - January 30, 2012
Pujols.
Mariano will still be pitching in 15 years.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Good man.
regfairfield - January 30, 2012
I’m over it Gary.
I think they both end up in the hall of fame.
I wish I could take the post back already.
:)
keithc13 - January 30, 2012
He’ll be elected in like 60 years or so
Michael White - January 30, 2012
Pete Rose
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
Roy Halladay.
Stupid Blue Jays wanting to send him to us for our prospects and stupid Halladay wanting to go to Philly. (I don’t have a source for this, read it off MLBTR or something, not 100% on this)
He’s technically not a hall of famer yet.
Taylor Maricle - January 30, 2012
If i had to pick someone who probably won't be a HOF,
then probably Hamels, or Utley (so cal boys who ended up out in that sewer of a city)
Taylor Maricle - January 30, 2012
Hopefully this picture isn't too big, if not it's still awesome, lol
The 3d glasses for the Avengers. I think Iron Man’s look the coolest, Thor’s next.
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
11 year old HJ says
How can they have the Avengers without Hawkeye or the Scarlet Witch?
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
hawkeye is in it
jeremy renner
nolander - January 30, 2012
oh, I just saw the glasses
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Unfortunately Scarlet Witch is a Fox-owned property.
OB12 - January 30, 2012
Hawkeye is in the movie
Yeah like Nolander said, and I think Jeremy Renner is awesome so I’m stoked.
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
If some bitchass tries to give me Thor glasses, there will be fisticuffs
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
What's your deal with the Thor glasses
They are awesome, though not as much as Iron Man of course
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
they just feel comparatively lame to the other three. And really, I wanted Scarlet Lady glasses
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
Scarlet Lady = female attendee of Rutgers U.?
David Young - January 30, 2012
actually, yes. I mean the Black Widow, obvs.
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
“scarlet lady” would seem to indicate a woman of ill repute.
David Young - January 30, 2012
In a certain time period, sure
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
The Rutgers women’s sport teams are oxymoronically called the “Lady Knights” for a reason. Rutgers became coeducational in 1970, so there were still connotations then, only 40ish years ago.
David Young - January 30, 2012
There’s a bar called the Scarlet Lady in Culver City. It’s not bad. Although I’ve only been there once, maybe I caught it on a good night.
Nolij - January 30, 2012
Where are Cataract Man’s big black shades?
kinbote - January 30, 2012
Cataract, Cataract
I can’t see, in front or back
Feel up the ladies, fall on the floor
Falling down the stairway like a drunken matador
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Smoke ’til your eyes get cataracts
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
apparently
they’ll cost $5, so I imagine you get to chose which one you want
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
I’d rather lose 5 dollars in the laundry
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Not only am I not payign 5 dollars for those stupid pieces of plastic
I’m also not paying the 19 dollars it would cost to see it in 3d.
nolander - January 30, 2012
I’m buying all four and putting them on my Dodger Bobbleheads
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
This is one of the few movies I don’t care about wasting the money. If Wrath Of The Titans is in 3D then I’m not seeing it.
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
Agree with this. I don’t like 3D but I might see this one in 3D.
OB12 - January 30, 2012
As stupid as it is
Just for those glasses is good enough for me. Will I ever wear the glasses again? Well no, why do you ask, lol.
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
I like that the Hulk’s has a furrowed brow.
OB12 - January 30, 2012
if those glasses fit heads larger than a 12 year old….
ah screw it, enjoy them
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Arrested development, it’s a thing : )
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
you won’t like you when you’re angry
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
fuck yeah!
Iron Man ones it is, if I see it again, then Thor.
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
Because someone has to say it
and I’m surprised no one else did:
You post this and then wonder why you’re still single?
Maddz - January 30, 2012
Thoughts?
silverwidow - January 30, 2012
starcraft
nolander - January 30, 2012
stadium renamed Chan Ho Park
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Literally LOL’d at this
Michael White - January 30, 2012
I made it green.
fbihop - January 30, 2012
Don’t care until the process is done.
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
Kind of like the NBA season.
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
I like him even less now.
delias man - January 30, 2012
I guess his bid has Seoul
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
groan!
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
If Chan Ho wants to raise money
does he go to kick starter?
Lex in Brooklyn - January 30, 2012
I don’t he’ll get anything by kicking them, Starter hasn’t made dugout jackets for years : )
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
Who else remembers DJ Jazzy Jeff’s Starter commercials?
“then you grip the hat, then you smooth the hat”
Lex in Brooklyn - January 30, 2012
Here you go, nostalgia, fresh from the oven : )
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
FloJo!
Dykstra…..good stuff:)
Lex in Brooklyn - January 30, 2012
wordplay!
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
Don't mind Joe
He’s feeling Kim Jong Il this morning
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
aw, he’ll feel better when the Dodgers Gyunen again
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
4+1
Dat Gguyen was my favorite
Lex in Brooklyn - January 30, 2012
Question for Mike
Super Bowl prop bet, odds to score the first TD in the game. If you had to pick one Giants TE, which one would you bet?
Jake Ballard 20/1
Travis Beckum 35/1
Bear Pascoe 40/1
I like that “no TD” is an option, at 150/1
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
what is the Min bet on a prop bet usually?
delias man - January 30, 2012
Ballard. Pascoe is the sucker bet since he caught one last game, but that was his first in his career. Beckum is a hybrid TE, more of an H-back. Won’t be in the game during goalline sets.
Ballard is the starter, played all season with Manning and has solid hands.
Michael White - January 30, 2012
Manningham is 14/1. I kind of like that one.
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
Manning to Manningham – book it Dano
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
This is a pick 'em
(both -110 to bet)
Which total will be higher on Sunday?
Wes Welker receptions
LeBron James assists
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
Welker.
fbihop - January 30, 2012
LBJ
Welker will be the Walter Payton circa ’86
Lex in Brooklyn - January 30, 2012
The Fridge will catch more passes?
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
Or Teddy Bruesci
Lex in Brooklyn - January 30, 2012
at one point this past season
Giants were 80-1 to win the Super Bowl
bhsportsguy - January 30, 2012 via iPhone app
the NFL needs a BCS
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
My nephew had 25 bucks on the Niners to win the SB at some stupid odds
Come to think of it, he might have been the one calling with the death threats
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Dummy should’ve hedged his bet. #Rays
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
it was a fan bet
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Yeah. I was basically calling myself a dummy in a twisted inside joke kind of way.
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
Six of us got it. I liked how you stood by your bet.
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
I never would have thought NYG would get to SB… Early in season til even past mid season, seemed like their running game was crap, and so was their defense. That made Manning a good fantasy QB because you knew he was going to throw alot every game since they couldnt run, and couldnt stop anyone…. I dont know what happened, if they were injured early on, or just started playing alot better and got hot at the right time.
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
I lost in the 2nd week of the TBLA Suicide Pool because I thought the Rams were going to be better than people thought and that the Giants were terrible.
I was wrong on both counts.
fbihop - January 30, 2012
Starting early
Humma I just spread the stinkiest butteries, yummiest, triple cream cheese on my toast
I got stinky cheese aftertaste going on in the most delightful way. The taste of the cheese is all up in my nose
if I was a better man, I’d drink to it
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
you need to be the guy who has the dark oak furniture and bottle of scotch in a crystal container next to the bowl of ice in the corner of your office
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
I used to always keep a bottle of Scotch in my desk drawer to have a pop with the keys team members after a win
I think you’re right, at some point, Friday afternoon socials in my office need make a replay
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Basically a soap opera captain of industry villian type.
OB12 - January 30, 2012
cardboard asshole FTW!
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Victor Newman!
OB12 - January 30, 2012
Right
Obadiah Stane
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
What cheese?
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
I just bought a super stinky triple-creme American cheese to try this past weekend – Rush Creek Reserve. I tried at at the shop (great cheese shop – “C’est Cheese” in Santa Barbara). Looking forward to it at home.
berkowit28 - January 30, 2012
Made by http://www.uplandscheese.com/ in Wisconsin – they just make two artisan cheeses. (I got the other one too.)
berkowit28 - January 30, 2012
I haven’t had the Rush Creek Reserve — I’ll have to ask about that — but I have had the other one, Pleasant Ridge Reserve, and it’s extraordinary. That one won Best in Show at the American Cheese Society a few years back… it’s really good.
Rush Creek sounds like my thing, so I hope to try that.
This being winter, we should be seeing Winnimere soon — it’s super-stinky, washed rind, from Jasper Hill in Vermont, and I think it’s the best cheese in America.
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
I’ll look out for Jasper Hill. Thanks.
berkowit28 - January 30, 2012
Seal Bay
this is stinky, not super stink – but swathed in large decadent swirls over a piece of toast and coupled with coffee….
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Seal Bay is like butter. It’s great.
Me, I prefer the super-stinks, but you can’t go wrong with Seal Bay.
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
I am large, I contain multitudes
I bought this for breakfast toast on a whim, is delightful
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
I am tiny and
multifacetedtwo-faced.Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
This sounds fun
PNC Park is adding a ‘Budweiser Bowtie Bar’ on the main concourse, to be ready by opening day:
That’s $45 bucks a pop if you get 50 people.
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
Free if you dress like Orville Redenbacker
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
TBLA Game Day at PNC Park with Franco Harris hosting
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
I’m not going
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
Neither were the Raiders
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
I would go
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Love PNC
nolander - January 30, 2012
Saw this on Twitter
@FLA_Dodger

silverwidow - January 30, 2012
Who is that?
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Votto?
kinbote - January 30, 2012
I assumed that, but I didn’t think it looked like his face.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
It’s of course Votto.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Link
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
Good attention to detail there. They even changed the catcher’s uniform from Dodgers to some ambiguous team.
OB12 - January 30, 2012
Maybe it was a metacommentary on the anonymous assortment of catchers we’ve assembled for 2012.
kinbote - January 30, 2012
lets dead author the shit out of this image
nolander - January 30, 2012
so good, so very good
BRAVO
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
but left the Dodgers wristband
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
its blue but doesn't say LA
could be the Royals
nolander - January 30, 2012
Or Mets.
OB12 - January 30, 2012
it’s an LA logo
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
its a number
http://twitpic.com/8dc6qb/full
nolander - January 30, 2012
NO
fine
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Who are we competing against for Votto?
Blue Jays are probably tops.
silverwidow - January 30, 2012
Losing bidders
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Reds, Nationals, Rangers, Cubs by then,
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
Red Sox and Angels could use a DH, Mariners will have given up on Justin Smoak, Rockies occasionally have money, Fred Wilpon might die…
regfairfield - January 30, 2012
i still think he never sees free agency, but won’t be upset if he does and we get to bid.
The Rockies with Gonzalez, Tulo and Votto hitting 3-5 would be scary, but something like 80% of their payroll would go to 3 players.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
They will then have 12 Matt Herges’ pitching for them.
delias man - January 30, 2012
The right answer.
regfairfield - January 30, 2012
he gets traded to the yankees and gets an extension?
nolander - January 30, 2012
Also good, but the Reds should compete the next couple years.
regfairfield - January 30, 2012
Blue Jays seem like they have both prospects to offer and money/desire to lock him up.
Nolij - January 30, 2012
Blue Jays
seem to always be ALL TALK
delias man - January 30, 2012
Just imagine if we have this discussion every day for the next 18 months how much fun TBLA will be
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
Free agency speculation right up there with marginal prospect talk.
regfairfield - January 30, 2012
Yankees will be over Tex by then
nolander - January 30, 2012
Perhaps this means we'll see the Dodgers in Hollywood Stars Uniforms
A’s to wear Oakland Oaks throwbacks this year.
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
hopefully not
delias man - January 30, 2012
I’d prefer they threw back to LA Angels, but they sold the rights to some cowboy a few years back : )
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
The Dodgers have been around for over 100 years. Why would they throwback to a different team? They have plenty of old jerseys of their own team they can use.
Michael White - January 30, 2012
This
keithc13 - January 30, 2012
I really wanted that 1912 or whatever throwback last year. that blue one was terrible.
delias man - January 30, 2012
especially since it not being made from satin lost the whole point
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
yeah
delias man - January 30, 2012
so have the A’s
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
If the A’s jumped off a bridge….
Michael White - January 30, 2012
the As suck
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
fair enough, just me personally, I think it’s cool that the A’s are throwing back to something Oakland related instead of something A’s related. The Brooklyn Dodger throwbacks, or Kansas City A’s throwbacks, I’m aggin it.
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
I am much more into - if you can be - franchise history vs. geographical history
Give me an old Philadelphia Athletics sweater with the elephant logo anytime.
bhsportsguy - January 30, 2012
Always the right answer
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
I like the cut of the Dodgers jib
Throwbacks hold no allure for me
I hate that the Steelers wear their throwback so much
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Get out
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
haha just saw this
#sanfrancisc
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
dont get it
delias man - January 30, 2012
No O
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
lots of frustrated gals in SF?
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
hiyo
kinbote - January 30, 2012
still don’t get it
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
the giants have no offens…forget it
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
lots of frustrated gals in SF?
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Underdog says, “I’ve never had any complaints.”
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
Kinda surreal to read this discussion from the bottom up
Haha.
Yep.
/cues up deli scene from When Harry Met Sally
underdog - January 30, 2012
so this happened last night apparently
nolander - January 30, 2012
Awesoke
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
this is the kind of nonsense that happens
when defenders play the ball instead of doing their job and blowing up the wideout
the trouble is, the suits in the NFL office see this shit and think it is good for the game.
number 21 should have driven his shoulder into Marshall’s sternum
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Yeah I just assumed they dont hit hard in Pro Bowl games. Both teams hardly even ran the ball which tells me nobody wants to do much hitting or tackling, everyone goes home healthy.
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
this is so wrong I don't even know where to start
nolander - January 30, 2012
It might be, I dont even watch the Pro Bowl ever, so I just assumed. So dont kill me.
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
It has nothing to do with pro bowl or not pro bowl
Early had a surefire pick there if his teammate doesn’t knock it out of his hands. Interceptions are good things, not showboating. Playing the ball is a GOOD thing and seperates good CBs from bad CBs. If they went for the big hit there instead of the pick it would be because they wanted to be on sportscenter, not the other way around.
nolander - January 30, 2012
Right, well I am just commenting of Joe’s comment about the defender should have lit the WR up. Whether he should have or not, all I was saying is it was a Pro Bowl game, and I would assume people would get pissed if you blow up a WR in a meaningless all star game. Or maybe they do hit hard in the probowl?
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
the receivers were catching the ball, running until they got any contact, then basically falling down.
It’s a powderpuff game.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
I saw a suggestion on twitter than they make it a flag football game, and invite celebrities. Like the Madden Bowl or Rock N’ Jock.
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
wouldn’t matter to me
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
I’ve argued for a while that they should just have a skills competition and call it a day. Football is too violent and somebody’s career is going to end in this useless exhibition game one day.
Michael White - January 30, 2012
or in a beach flag football game
Oh wait, that happened?
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
who was that player that that got hurt in the beach game again? Wasnt he like a Dolphins RB?
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
Patriots
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Fuck ’em
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
Robert Edwards.
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
yeah Edwards. Dam, how do you get hurt so bad in a beach flag football game that you almost need to cut your leg off. Edwards barely escaped the injury without having his leg amputated below the knee, and he was told he might not walk again.
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
Robert Edwards
keithc13 - January 30, 2012
Pro Bowl is the stupidest event since the College All-Stars played the SUper Bowl Champs. Easily the stupidest event of the three major sports.
I knew my best friend had a gambling problem when he bet on the pro bowl
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
I loved the Pro Bowl back when I was reading the Avengers
The starting line-up of the AFC was pretty much the entire Steeler team. It was like a bonus Steeler exhibition
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
They used to have the Quarterback Competition at the Cayman Islands.
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
was Rock N’ Jock the Baseball Pro-Am softball game?
I loved those.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
yeah me too, those were fun. Piazza was in them alot.
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
Couldn't find Piazza, but here's Jon Stewart and George Clooney
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
Thats Ryan Braun in the middle before PED’s.
lol
keithc13 - January 30, 2012
LOL
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
You win.
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
LLOL
Lex in Brooklyn - January 30, 2012
Dan Cortese, go away.
Nolij - January 30, 2012
that guy got so much pussy
in his day.
delias man - January 30, 2012
yeah he was
my most vivid memories involve Griffey Jr dropping bomb in softball and:
Roger Clemens was pitching and some celeb was on deck signing autographs instead of taking practice swings. guy in front of him reaches base and he’s still signing autographs. Roger Clemens being Roger Clemens, he fires the softball past the guy’s head into the fencing.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
on MTV, with like Carson Daily playing CF
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
true story
when boxing gloves were introduced, they were to protect hands, not heads. But it also meant boxers could punch even harder, making the sport more dangerous.
Just because you’re wearing pads, doesn’t mean you should play like you’re Batman.
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
I really enjoyed that article.
Michael White - January 30, 2012
it was a real nice read
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
For your reading pleasure
the game is built around fear and pain, without those elements it turns into basketball
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
or rugby, which has been around longer and hasn’t devolved into American Gladiators
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
rugby has plenty of fear and pain in it
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
absolutely. but it’s not fear of paralysis
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
Just first page
http://www.scotsman.com/news/scottish-news/edinburgh-east-fife/thom_evans_was_millimetre_from_death_or_paralysis_after_injury_1_792673
http://www.brainandspinalcord.org/blog/2010/05/13/rugby-players-and-fans-show-support-paralyzed-player
http://www.apparelyzed.com/forums/topic/20461-former-rugby-player-matt-hampson-paralysis-made-me-a-better-man/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1416119/Rugby-union-held-responsible-for-players-paralysis.html
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
phacts
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
eh, it was a good argument until there were facts involved : )
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
And that’s officially the most I’ve ever seen of the Pro Bowl.
fbihop - January 30, 2012
Clippers expanding their pregame show on Prime Ticket to one hour for home games.
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
Turned the corner?
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
Big win last night. Nice comeback
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
True, didn’t think the Lakers had it in them after the Timberwolves caught them
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
I was an angry man last night…for a while.
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
Well done
Michael White - January 30, 2012
depends on the ratings
if people watch, this is a big step
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Needs MOAR Kiki
Michael White - January 30, 2012
You know the Victor Martinez injury is bad
when you need to have surgery to prepare to have surgery:
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
Shaun Livingston
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
That is brutal.
keithc13 - January 30, 2012
If the guy operated on Grady Sizemore, then it makes sense that they signed Fielder.
Nolij - January 30, 2012
ha ha
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
Fun fact
Ted Williams struck out less in his career (707) than Mark Reynolds the last 4 seasons (around 728).
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
around 728?
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
When you strike out as much as Reynolds does, you lose count.
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
ran out of fingers and toes
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Baseball numbers are so imprecise
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
They're still counting
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
Going off memory
I think that was the number, but wasn’t 100%. I do, however, know it was above 707.
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
Ted WIlliams head jokes in five… four…. three…. two…. one….zero
So Reynolds is ahead of him?
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
Mike Tyson to be inducted into the WWE HOF on March 31st.
LMAO
keithc13 - January 30, 2012
He knocked out shawn michaels and helped stone cold win the title
I’m all for it!
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
Remember this?
silverwidow - January 30, 2012
pretty sure the mike tyson raw was one of the first ones to beat nitro after they won the monday night wars for like 3 years in a row. it makes more sense than pete rose I guess..
hee came hee seop'd he choi'd - January 30, 2012
Is nothing sacred?
kinbote - January 30, 2012
interesting
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Surely, in all the time you have spent on this site, you have learned that the answer to that question is, “Heavens, no.”
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
except for the retards
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
nihilo sanctum estne?
/cue Maddz to correct the Latin
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
would probably just be nihil
Maddz - January 30, 2012
Jimmy “Superfly” Snuka is wondering this very same thing.
OB12 - January 30, 2012
I’m surprised Drew Carey got in before Mike.
regfairfield - January 30, 2012
Everyone just thought Tyson would be dead by now.
delias man - January 30, 2012
Seriously, Tyson is alive?
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
Ligers, there are really things called Ligers
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Because the Angels exchanged their first two picks in the upcoming draft for Pujols and Wilson
And they don’t pick until the 3rd round, Jim Callis from Baseball America tweeted
That cap is used for the first 10 rounds and any bonuses to players drafted after that above $100K.
The penalties, at first may be mild but it doesn’t take much to make it punitive. If the Angels just spend a few hundred thousand more than their slot amount, they will get a luxury tax penalty and very quickly lose draft picks.
bhsportsguy - January 30, 2012
That’s ass. If you sign big free agents, you can only draft “signability” guys with lower upsides? Then again, guys like Vernon Wells were “signability” picks and had themselves nice careers.
Nolij - January 30, 2012
the adjustment will come from amateur players only being able to demand so much, and really, unless you’re the guy expected to go in the top 5 rounds who falls because you want too much money, starting in like the 7th round the bonuses are under $100k. They’ll have $1.7mil to sign 5 guys.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Also
expect fewer hall of famers because kids will be more likely to go to college rather than sign out of high school unless they go in the first round.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Which means more talent going to college, which is not a bad thing, but it means a bigger deal can be made of international players, which I don’t think is good for MLB.
Nolij - January 30, 2012
There is now
a standard international signing allotment of reportedly $2.7-2.9M per team starting this season.
bhsportsguy - January 30, 2012
Thank God we stopped big market teams like the Rangers and the Reds from pricing everyone out of international free agents.
regfairfield - January 30, 2012
One note
you do have to sign all of your picks to get that cap value. If you don’t sign one of your top ten round picks, you lose that bonus value from your cap amount.
bhsportsguy - January 30, 2012
Also
with the deadline moved up to July 12th this year, you get less angst about the whole thing moving forward.
bhsportsguy - January 30, 2012
I generally like Tom Ziller and his NBA writing on SB Nation, but man he is all over the place on the weekly power rankings.
He had the Clippers ranked No. 5 two weeks ago (after they beat the Heat), then moved them all the way down to No. 15 after missing Chris Paul for a week and still going 3-2, and now has the Clippers at No. 4 in the NBA.
Seems Ziller has the Clippers to where they can’t even see the corner in their rear view they have passed it so far.
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
seems like that “Contender/Pretender” segment they have on the KIA NBA Countdown
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
Other than being wrong one week I don’t understand the problem:)
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
They were No. 14 the week before that. Yo yo
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
When the Clippers have had a non rusty Chris Paul on the court they are undefeated. Course that is only five games
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
Yeah, I left him a message or two on that. Clippers are in the low teens on my SRS. #4 is ridic.
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
Maybe yours is ridic, since you obviously have not taken into account the missing/rusty Chris Paul
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
god please make baseball come faster
please god, please
I will be good
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
careful what you wish for
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
I can take bad Dodgers and still love baseball
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
This.
OB12 - January 30, 2012
I’m about ready. Was watching Pedro throw Grady under the bus on MLBN—they were rehashing the famous Game 6. Bernie Williams was so cool he was almost asleep.
kinbote - January 30, 2012
He never threw him under the bus
Tommy Blackjack - January 30, 2012 via iPhone app
Semantics. He made it clear he disagreed with the decision and everything about how it came about. He wasn’t nasty—just truthful about how he felt. He thought he was leaving the game and felt he should’ve been.
kinbote - January 30, 2012
Isn’t the story there that Grady asked Pedro if he wanted to stay in, and Pedro said he wanted to stay in?
You can’t say “I want to stay in” and then complain that the manager should have pulled you out.
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
it was more like
“do you have anything left” to which Pedro answered “yes” and later said “I would never say no to that”
Tommy Blackjack - January 30, 2012 via iPhone app
Everybody else gets to blame Grady Little. You pull Pedro there. You know it, I know it, the American people know it. A manager is the manager because he’s gotta make that call and tough shit if his player doesn’t like it.
Pedro doesn’t get to blame Little. Yeah, he shouldn’t have been asked the question, but his only response now, 9 years on, should be, “I wanted the ball and I didn’t get it done.”
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
Yes
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
That was his response
Tommy Blackjack - January 30, 2012 via iPhone app
Then we are in agreement:
People who blame nobody (a la “shit happens”): Grady Little
People who blame Pedro Martinez: Pedro Martinez
People who blame Grady Little: the planet’s other 6,999,999,998 people
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
I will defer to Humma here.
kinbote - January 30, 2012
Yes
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
Also, I want to know what effect corner turning has on Xei’s matrix.
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
totally depends on what kind of corner
Left Corner
Right Corner
Left Corner heading North
Left Corner heading West
Right Corner heading South
Right Corner heading East
So many variables, corner turning is a complicated business
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
careful you don’t turn two right corners in a row
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
That is called the McRoberts / Murphy corner
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
it’s not a matrix it is more of an accord.
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
How many actually watched Mitch Kupchak play basketball before his knee’s exploded?
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
mitch kupchak was a player?
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
you pulled a Bobby
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
no seriously, he played?
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
you’re just being you
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Great young power forward
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kupchmi01.html
Almost averaged a double double his first Laker season
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
Who knows what history would have done if this trade had never happenened
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
a guy named Dick got traded for a guy named Cup Check?
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
i can’t be held accountable for knowledge of things happening for teams i don’t closely follow or events that heppened before i was socially conscious.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
you can be held responsible for doing the 4 clicks it takes to do a google search before posting your question though
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
sure, but he asked if anyone saw him play. His question implies that he did, but I had no idea. I felt like me saying I didn’t know he played was answering his question.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
I like the honest answer before the Google. You might have been playing or not but I did/do wonder how many Laker fans have any idea what kind of player Mitch was before the catastrophic knee injuries.
Just as many Clipper fans only knew Baylor as the idiot GM and not as one of the greatest/graceful players in the history of the game.
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
ha, I knew Elgin Baylor was a great player!
Jerry West too obviously.
Maybe Mitch just didn’t have enough playing ability/duration for it to be mentioned often.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
no excuse
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
I’m not even aware that there is something called a Mitch Kupchak.
But that is fun to say. Mitch Kupchak! Mitch Kupchak! Mitch Kupchak!
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
do you pause between first and last name? Or roll it together like Mitt ChKupchak
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
Like taking attendance
M. Itch Cup, check.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
or on a high school baseball field
Mitch, CUP CHECK!
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
that’s a rec
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
Coach Tamburo used to use a bat handle
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
so did coach Bendik
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Coach Cathy used her hands
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
nice
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
caught a pitcher without a cup on once. it was hilarious.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
funny when it happens to someone else
I told him I didn’t need to wear a cup to play the outfield, it hurt
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Bendik was the pitching coach. He never did it to the pitchers.
It’s an inherently true statement that position players hate the pitching coach. Josh Bendik seemed to enjoy that.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
yes, the whole “dumb hitters” thing meme
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
mostly, pitching coaches spend exactly no time with the hitters, but during games like to talk to them about strategy and positioning and stuff and the hitters don’t want to hear it because they have no rapport with them.
It’s like the manager who tells his staff why the proposal failed when they weren’t even involved with its formation.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
I don’t like a pitching coach telling me what the opposing pitcher is thinking, like I have never seen a pitch sequence before
Pitchers seem to think that we just go up there and swing at what we see
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
I hate facing “see-ball-hit-ball” hitters. It doesn’t matter what I throw because they are just reacting.
I love facing guys who pay attention to what I throw, where I throw it and in what order I threw it in. I will royally fuck with this hitter’s mind.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
I am a location hitter with less than 2 strikes
I cut the zone into a 4 square and try to never swing at anything low and away or high and inside, until I get two strikes
I also choke and shorten with two strikes
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
we’d be a fun matchup.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
I think you are better pitcher than I was ever a hitter
but I’d enjoy competing!
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
having not pitched since late October, I went out the other day and tried to get back into the flow.
I swear to you I threw harder playing catch than when I went into a windup. Something was terribly off and my college Old Timers game is this Saturday at Dominguez.
Last year at this game I gave up 10 runs on 15 hits in a 4 inning start. I can’t wait…
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Still Totally Necassary
regfairfield - January 30, 2012
Kupchak
was on the All-Rookie team in 1977 after an All-American career at North Carolina and Gold Medal in the 1976 Olympics.
He was a member of the 1978 NBA champion Washington Bullets team.
I am guessing here but in 1982, when he was first arrived, the Lakers very well might have started an All-NBA All-Rookie team starting five (Kareem, Norm Nixon, Magic Johnson, Jamal Wilkes and Kupchak)
bhsportsguy - January 30, 2012
I liked Norm Nixon way more then Byron Scott
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
my 3rd favorite basketball player of all time
Tie for first: Jerry West/Magic Johnson
Third: Norm Nixon
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
I always got a good laugh out of Mark Lansburger and Brad Holland was yesteryears Jason Kopono.
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
I laughed this weekend
Because I happened to be checking Basketball-Reference.com for some Lakers franchise leaders, and here is the all-time Lakers 3-point % leaderboard:
1. Vladimir Radmanovic .400
2. Mike Penberthy .396
3. Brian Cook .392
4. Jumaine Jones .391
5. Chucky Atkins .387
Not totally sure what the minimum number of attempts is, but that is an awesome list.
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
God, that’s awful
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
I remember Chick Hearn saying Mike Penberthy was the best pure shooter he’d ever seen.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Brad Holland was two years a head of me in high school. He played in our league and to watch him in high school was awesome.
He was also a Laker 1st round pick the same year they got Johnson. What a college shooter. Had one big playoff game in game six to help win the title.
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
UCLA had 3 players drafted in the first round
that year, David Greenwood, Roy Hamilton and Holland. All three of those players were the last ones that John Wooden recruited for UCLA.
bhsportsguy - January 30, 2012
May have been the highlight of my UCLA Basketball fandom
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
raises hand
I think I may have even seen his knee explode
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Mitch Kupchak
average 14 points and 8 rebounds per game in his first season with the Lakers until getting hurt about a third of way the trough it. His injury did lead to Kurt Rambis becoming a starter in the 1981-82 season.
bhsportsguy - January 30, 2012
So if Kupchak never gets hurt
does Del Harris get fired?
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
The Houston What Ifs
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Del Harris coached the Lakers
when Mitch was assistant GM of the team.
bhsportsguy - January 30, 2012
So the answer could go either way. If Mitch never gets hurt, he is a player for years, the Lakers never trade for Byron Scott, they win Championships every single year of the 1980’s, Magic never gets HIV, he becomes player coach in 1995, and the team never has Shaq or Kobe, Del Harris never coaches the Lakers thus he can’t be fired.
I say no.
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
The Houston Lakers
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
so Kurt Rambis was the Laker weak link in the 80s?
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
Rambis had his role
AC Green took over in 1987.
bhsportsguy - January 30, 2012
he fit the period
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
There was a tweet from a buddy of Phil Jackson over the weekend that he hears Kupchak is leaving the Lakers. Though I guess Worthy squashed this on the Lakers postgame show, I didnt see it.
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
You didn’t call him “Big Game James” so I don’t know who you are talking about
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
Aye
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
I’m vaguely aware of him in a Swen Nater way.
kinbote - January 30, 2012
i barely know her
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
http://www.latimes.com/sports/football/nfl/la-sp-wooden-nater-poetry-20100613,0,7802371.story
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
Not nearly as fun to say as Mitch Kupchak.
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
but first name only Swen is all over Mitch
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
He could run for US Senate. Swenator Swen Nater!
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
I get a lot of hits off my comments when I mention Swen Nater. I don’t question the process.
kinbote - January 30, 2012
If he held a rally at a local bar
Swill w Swell Swenator Swen Swoon
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
It’s fun to type though.
kinbote - January 30, 2012
Good thing he had hoops to fall back on.
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
something about his name makes me think of swimming
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Topps has gotten way better at photo manipulation
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
so I have heard....
so has playboy
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Minds think alike
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
How it used to be done : )
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
Much better from that set
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
airbrushed Expos cap or Spring Training photo shoot?
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
Airbrushed
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
someone fix this...
delias man - January 30, 2012
Oh, I get it
You want me to Photoshop out the surge protector in the tree branches, right? Yeah, I agree: it’s a huge safety hazard.
TomasC - January 30, 2012
patty and selma!!!
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
Mmm, McGyver's on!
underdog - January 30, 2012
At Dodger Stadium even.
Nolij - January 30, 2012
Looks like KC, no?
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
Ah, the green dugout railings give it away. Damn the Royals and their incredibly similar logos and color scheme.
Nolij - January 30, 2012
Why it makes sense for Dodger fans to had the Royals as their AL team
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
Topps had to make a late change
to their 2012 set to include Albert Pujols in an Angels uniform:
I hate that. His 2012 card, especially if in the first series, should feature Pujols in a Cardinals uniform, as that captured his 2011 season. Totally fine with Pujols as an Angel in a later card in the series, similar to the old “Topps Traded”
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
tripon'ed
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
Eh, I added value.
Do you know what Topps is BTW? :)
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
it’s that hannukah game, right?
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
rec’d for snappiness!
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Are those the things that come with the bubble gum :P
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
for me
I wonder why, with all the time that’s passed since the signing, they couldn’t have done a photo shoot with Albert in his Angel uniform.
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
busy
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
The set used to come out before Christmas before though
delias man - January 30, 2012
2012 regular card should have 2011 team (or final team, in case somebody switched teams during the season)
save the new team for the updates set
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
they dont really have update sets like they used to
you are becoming a bb card dinosaur to me
delias man - January 30, 2012
They sure do. Topps Update is one of my favorites every year. It always has the scrub call-ups.
Nolij - January 30, 2012
There is a third series every year that is the update set
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
it surely does not have the hype it used to.
yes they still exist.
delias man - January 30, 2012
WTF do you mean hype? It doesn’t come in its own box of 132 any more, but it is still [cough]“widely-collected.”
Nolij - January 30, 2012
From Rotoworld thru yahoo
The Lakers have talked with the Cavs about trading for Ramon Sessions, sources tell Yahoo.
No deal is imminent, but a trade would make some sense for both sides. The Lakers desperately need to upgrade their point guard situation and Sessions is wasting away behind Kyrie Irving in Cleveland. Sessions is earning $4.3 million this season and has a player option for $4.6 million next season. The Cavs reportedly want back draft picks in any trade.
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
do it, just do something, fuck it, please!
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
Woj with his usual great work
Lakers looking for backcourt help
In other news, paper comes from trees, Tommy Blackjack hates Dr. Pepper, and GFY Carlos Ruiz.
TomasC - January 30, 2012
That sums it up
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
That would be a great pickup.
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
I'd prefer your Clips' Mo Williams to Sessions
But I’m pretty sure getting back a trade exception and helping your building mates isn’t in Donald Sterling’s plan.
TomasC - January 30, 2012
Clippers don’t mind helping their less fortunate siblings.
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
You’re such generous older brothers. :-)
TomasC - January 30, 2012
yeah id rather have Mo too but doubt Clips will want to help us. Scouting report I just read on Sessions. Quite a playmaker… Very unselfish… Long arms… Has improved his jump shot… Still not a great threat from the perimeter… Not likely to hit the three. Sounds more like what Lakers need then Arenas anyways, pass 1st shoot 2nd kind of PG.
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
Sessions would be a great pickup, as the Lake show has no one on the team who is good at setting up plays.
Lex in Brooklyn - January 30, 2012
We have reached the new frontier in clothing
Dress-pant sweatpants:
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
Huh
Wonder if I could get away with seeing my clients in those things…
TomasC - January 30, 2012
Dress Pants Sweat Pants brought to you by Dr. Pepper 10.
regfairfield - January 30, 2012
Catch phrase!
TomasC - January 30, 2012
Aside from comfort, isn’t one of the selling points of sweatpants that you don’t need a belt or zipper?
OB12 - January 30, 2012
I remember for years and years
Chick Hearn lamented that the Lakers did not have tear away sweat pants (sweats with snaps on the sides.)
bhsportsguy - January 30, 2012
I loved the cardigan and jean warmups the Clippers wore on throwback night
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
Those Grizzlies unis were terrible, though
I told my girlfriend it was like watching Sprite cans play against the powder blue Diet Pepsi cans.
TomasC - January 30, 2012
for years, when I played Rec league basketball, I wanted tear aways
years and years later, I was playing in a Rec league in North Carolina and told that to Mrs HJ. The next day, tear away sweats. Those sweats were the best thing about my game in my mid 30’s
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Well, at least I know that America, the land of innovation, is not yet out of ideas.
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
if you thought we were lazy and stupid before
well, you ain’t seen nothing yet!
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
I don’t need to comment
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
where’s the fucking cream?
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
On a related note
A-B is coming out with Bud Light Platinum. In-between Bud and Bud Light on calories, but 6% abv; more than either of them.
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
Get drunk faster, and feel better about your waistline!
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
I wonder how they have such high ABV and low calories.
fbihop - January 30, 2012
infusion, like Malt Liquor
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
I will go ahead and predict that this product will be disgusting.
fbihop - January 30, 2012
The words “Bud Light” in the name pretty much makes this a given.
VegasBlues - January 30, 2012
Magick
kinbote - January 30, 2012
My body is ready
nolander - January 30, 2012
Holy crap
DeSagana Diop had what Yahoo’s Ball Don’t Lie called the worst free throw miss in history.
Terrible.
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
Airballing a free throw is embarassing enough
Missing said FT by more than a foot is just ridiculous.
TomasC - January 30, 2012
Ball don’t lie? If there’s one thing I know, it’s that you can’t believe a fucking word ball says. Ball will lie to you all week long.
Hips, too. Don’t trust ’em. Liars, all of ’em.
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
Someday you will tell us your opinion of pimping w/r/t relative ease or difficulty.
kinbote - January 30, 2012
I have done this. It is in the archives, I’m sure.
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
Pitcher Taylor Buchholz is going to skip the 2012 season after battling depression, says ESPN NY
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
Hope he gets better, but I always found it strange that two non related Buchholz’s came up at the same time. I’d never heard that last name before then all of a sudden there was a Clay and a Taylor Buchholz and I was told that they weren’t related.
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
I felt that same way about Venus and Serena
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Oh, that Buchholz. Ignore :)
kinbote - January 30, 2012
So I have a couple of formal events this Feb
I am excited that I get to bust out the old Tuxedo
I am wearing a double breasted job, not unlike the one Mr. Pitt is wearing. I will look just like him, except be much uglier and fatter. I have to wear the same Tuxedo a couple of nights later, going to sub in a skinny black long tie to mix it up
best thing about this, Mrs HJ in a formal dress FTMFW!!!
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
I miss fancy dress parties
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
if you can bring someone looking to invest a quarter mil or so, I can bring you and your guest to the next event I throw.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Always looking at the bright side.
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
You should find some tuxedo sweat pants, I’m sure they are out there.
OB12 - January 30, 2012
Velour track suits is pretty damn good
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
No way, Italians take their suits seriously…. Dont ever say that again.
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
La Bella Figura
kinbote - January 30, 2012
for sure, for the men it is also the formal nonchalance of Sprezzatura
everyone has to look good for the evening stroll (Passeggiata)
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
I didn’t get that gene.
kinbote - January 30, 2012
close enough
http://www.suitjamas.com/
nolander - January 30, 2012
I'll take marshall's pajamas
He has dreams that he’s flying!
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
tear away formal dresses ftmfw
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Try not to cause any international incidents
on these trips.
bhsportsguy - January 30, 2012
I like to get my toes to the edge,but with Mrs HJ in tow nothing will get too crazy
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
don’t forget the grey poupon.
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
I've always assumed that as a short man
that I cannot wear a double-breasted jacket because it will make me look even shorter and stubbier. Is it true?
I rely on my two-button, Brooks Brothers black blazer to get me through anything that requires a jacket and tie.
David Young - January 30, 2012
you are thin
thin cut might work
but generally true
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Also the reason I didn’t go in for the recent three-button jacket. As a short man, the V formed by the three-button is shallower and again make me look squattier, while the two-button V is narrower and is more vertical.
David Young - January 30, 2012
or you can do what the Italians (not a tall people) do – they only button the middle button and let the jacket roll into a two button V
I have many Italian sport coats and suits that are 3-button to be work two button
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
In honor of this thread, and the new Pujols card
I’m gonna put on a ballcap, buy a coke in a bottle, a pack of wrigley, and a pack of baseball cards.
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
How much is a pack of cards these days anyways?? I miss that hobby.
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
like $3 or something I imagine. Seems I’m premature though, the 2012’s don’t come out for two days
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
No way it costs 3 bucks, unless its like the worst collector card you can get…. Last time I was into cards I think it was like 7 or 8 bucks… or maybe 5 minimum… and that was like 10 years ago… and that was basketball cards too, so maybe.
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
So, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Nolij - January 30, 2012
haha no I dont, but I just cant imagine its 3 bucks…. that seems way to low…. but you are right I dont… maybe the death of this hobby has lowered prices.
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
The hobby A) is not dead and B) was never as you describe.
Nolij - January 30, 2012
The Houston Hobby
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Best one yet.
Nolij - January 30, 2012
Don’t worry
Marty will stop by and with a flick of his wrist causally top this with hardly an effort
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Its not dead but is it fair to say its dying? I dont believe its as popular as it once was anyways, but again, I dont know haha…. Does LAPD still make baseball cards? Miss those, Also wonder if Dodgers still have a Dodger baseball cards giveaway.
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
The reason I say its dead is because last time I was what I would call actively collecting, the cost was so high for good cards, that the hobby was taken away from kids, and was basically now an adult hobby, because pretty much only adults could afford to do it. Adults were into it because they started collecting as kids. So if kids arent currently into it, it probably will eventually die… Or maybe they collect eCards now haha. Maybe kids are back in it though, that would be cool.
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
What do u mean it was never as I described??
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
Let’s not throw words over a hobby
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
What does ’drop words" mean?
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
it turns Humma’s comment at 1:05 into this
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
I dont drink gin, I drink Jack Daniels though.
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
i’m liking you more and more
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Don’t worry, Chris — the club meets on Wednesday nights. This week, you bring the gin.
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
Can I bring the strippers and bubble gum?
TomasC - January 30, 2012
Yes, but if you do, please make sure you arrive after my kids go to bed. I can’t have Spawn asking for bubble gum.
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
Consider it done
Wouldn’t think of disrespecting you, Bride and Spawn in your own home.
TomasC - January 30, 2012
pretty good
pretty, pretty, good
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
were you buying by the ounce?
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
Do get gum with that?
iiidown - January 30, 2012
You can get the basic issues (Topps is the only manufacturer licensed nowadays) for about $3/pack. There are some things that hobby shops carry for ~$2 but they’re usually ugly. There are plenty of ways to spend more than that, usually because one wants the shiniessssssss, but $2.99+tax should get you Topps.
Nolij - January 30, 2012
ok, so yeah, for cheap cards its around 3…. but for like Topps Finest, or those Chrome cards or whatever, its alot more a pack right?
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
sure, but kids don’t care about shinny things, they just want their favorite player
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
How much should a common basketball card at a card store cost you? I bought a bunch of “commons” but of players that had pretty good name recognition to hand out at my sister-in-laws elementary school in China (crazy about NBA) and the guy was charging 40 cents a card. I called bs on him and he turned from Mr Nice Guy in to Mr Bowa in the blink of an eye.
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
Isnt China where people pay alot for really old Jordans from back in the day, or is that Japan?
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
of is that
the Fairfax district of Hollywood
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Syria
kinbote - January 30, 2012
You should be able to get common cards from a reputable dealer for 10-25 cents. Any card shop that I would care to do business with would give you something like 20 for a dollar.
Nolij - January 30, 2012
I'd switch the Wrigley with Bazooka
but I know nothing about nothing.
TomasC - January 30, 2012
Maybe we should lock-up Jansen
Obviously not yet, but if he has another ~15 K/9 season with lots of saves, then it’s effing on like Donkey Kong.
silverwidow - January 30, 2012
I would be okay with this.
kinbote - January 30, 2012
Hopefully it will end up how other successful long term contracts for a reliever turned out such as
regfairfield - January 30, 2012
hee hee
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
mo
nolander - January 30, 2012
I'm sure he is getting something absurd like 25 million though
nolander - January 30, 2012
$15m + $1.5 deferred. Age 42. What a player.
kinbote - January 30, 2012
no
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
if you’re going to go long term with Jansen, you do it last year, and you do it for 6 years at 15mil.
If you wait until he leads the world in K/9 and has a bunch of saves, you’re paying extra for something you should be trading in 2 years.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Chances
are high enough that he blows his arm out (or is ineffective)by the time he hits free agency. #Broxton #Gagne et al.
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
just ride the arbitration train.
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
Based on the answers
People seem to be thinking any deal would be a K-Rod with the Mets apparently.
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
if you’re going to wait and see if he dominates the league again, you risk locking up world beater kenley jansen, in which case it won’t be worth it.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
If we lock him up now it couldn’t be too big of a contract, though there’s really no reason to do it with 5 years left of team control.
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
but that’s not what he said.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
In typical me fashion I skipped the second half
I think that was a typical Silverwidow question too ;)
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
even still
think of the guys over the last few years who would have gotten multiyear deals after good relief seasons:
2007: Saito, Broxton
2008: Cory Wade, Joe Beimel
2009: Troncoso, Belisario, Weaver, Sherrill
2010: Kuo
2011: Jansen?, Guerra?, MacDougal?, Elbert?, Lindblom?
Sure, the Broxton and Saito deals might not have been so terrible, but the others would have been shitshows for us.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Fair points
I just think it’s fair to assume Jansen will be great forever! :)
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
a lot of people said that about everyone on that list.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Except Cory Wade. And Weaver. And Sherrill. And Beimel.
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
plenty of people said that about wade, beimel and sherrill
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
No
No we did not
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
There is still love for Corey Wade out there.
regfairfield - January 30, 2012
I’m sure he has a family.
fbihop - January 30, 2012
Should have been a Dodger last season instead of Guerrier
The Dude Abides - January 30, 2012
In the last 50 years only 186 relievers have thrown more than 350 innings with a league average ERA+ before hitting free agency. This is a low enough threshold that guys like Broxton and Gagne qualify even after missing seasons. The odds of Jansen lasting six years are against him.
regfairfield - January 30, 2012
If you use only pure relievers that it drops to 62.
regfairfield - January 30, 2012
Grain of salt warning
http://www.rlyw.net/index.php/RLYW/direct/still_too_early_2012_mlb_standings_projection
We finish 76-86 in 4th place.
kinbote - January 30, 2012
So they’re saying there is a chance
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
The good news is that 86 wins takes the NL West.
kinbote - January 30, 2012
Guessing Marcel shits on Kemp and Kershaw really hard but that’s still a long way from contention.
regfairfield - January 30, 2012
This makes me laugh for some reason.
silverwidow - January 30, 2012
two award winners one cup
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
I think they’ve had two iterations of 2012 standings so far. If the A’s win 82 games I will buy everyone a sweat pant suit and a container of Joe’s favorite cream cheese.
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
But I have the Dodgers close to that 76 win number. I think somewhere between 77 and 78.
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
Regressing aggressively to the mean really helps the A’s.
regfairfield - January 30, 2012
haha, guess so. Should be 81-81 for all 30 teams then, no? :)
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
Yeah, that 82 for Oakland stood out to me too.
kinbote - January 30, 2012
Remember back in band camp, when PECOTA was broken?
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
Woo Hoo
7th pick in 2013
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
worked out okay for us last time
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Dogfight in the AL East, Central, NL West,
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
Reds looking good.
kinbote - January 30, 2012
add about 10 wins to that Cardinals number.
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
The Duncan Effect
kinbote - January 30, 2012
Clipper Notes
From Clipper Steve Game Notes:
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
it may be
the bazooka bubble gum high I am on right now, but I don’t follow the logic in the first blockquote.
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
Really, seems straightforward, the Clippers are 7 – 0 when Paul scores more then 16 points.
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
I think
they should hire Josie to edit their tweets.
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
“looks good, run it”
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
t’wasn’t tweets.
David Young - January 30, 2012
I think people in general should hire Josie to edit their tweets. In fact all tweets should go through Josie.
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
I’ll work for Twitter as quality control, no tweet gets sent out without my approval
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
All with the hashtag #LAGalaxy?
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
#LAGalaxy #MLS #SoccerRules
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
Clippers are 1-4 when Paul scores fewer than 16 points… then concludes if Paul scores then Clippers win. Did they mean win more often? I read it was win every game. Maybe it was not written well.
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
Okay, Berkowitz
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
LOL
Pure Azure - January 31, 2012 via Android app
Speaking of Skip Schumaker...
Here’s a version of his Topps baseball card which features the St. Louis Cardinals’ “Rally Squirrel” more than it does Schumaker.
Larry Brown Sports:
fbihop - January 30, 2012
artificial scarcity to create value and demand
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
/De Beers
fbihop - January 30, 2012
Diamonds are forever
VegasBlues - January 30, 2012
“Everything in Entire World Now Collectible.” /theonion
kinbote - January 30, 2012
AKA why baseball cards now suck, despite the ability to be higher quality than I could have dreamed of as a kid in the 60s/70s.
David Young - January 30, 2012
Best fan in baseball
Lex in Brooklyn - January 30, 2012
well done
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
What animal should Eugenio Velez get?
kinbote - January 30, 2012
Even Amoeba’s have a single
Lex in Brooklyn - January 30, 2012
Poor Skip
Though Skippy the Squirrel would be a good (cartoon?) character.
underdog - January 30, 2012
James Harden was my favorite Pac player in a long time, he’s really coming on for the Thunder. Can the Thunder sign him when he becomes a RFA after 2013 or can the Lakers bring that boy to LA given the contracts they have already given Durant and Westbrook?
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
If you’re asking cap rules, yes the Thunder can certainly sign them.
If you’re asking, “will they” sign him, I’m not sure. Haven’t heard much chatter either way on that.
Michael White - January 30, 2012
Players I can’t stand on other teams (for irrational reasons) are James Harden (could be the beard?) and the energy defensive wiz on the Blazers.
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
Gotta be the beard
Lex in Brooklyn - January 30, 2012
This I did not know:
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
http://www.squidoo.com/all-about-beards
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
Is it just me or should "greek" be "Greece"
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
you’re right, but w/e
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Sorry, doing my best Josie impression.
/probly
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
What the hell is “squidoo”? Is it supposed to be an authoritative source on anything?
David Young - January 30, 2012
it’s for punk Italians who are born underwater
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
squidoos and squidettes
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
Have you not heard of the prestigious Squidoo???
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
also no mention that Alexander the Great was Macedonian, not Greek.
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
Houston Macedonians.
David Young - January 30, 2012
First and foremost, I’d like to thank the Persians
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Batum?
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
Hardly even know him.
kinbote - January 30, 2012
Odem?
Already paid him
Lex in Brooklyn - January 30, 2012
I was thinking he’s referring to either Batum or Wallace (who I’m a huge fan of)
Michael White - January 30, 2012
Wallace is awesome
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
Yup. One of my favorite players.
Lex in Brooklyn - January 30, 2012
A quick review of their roster and it must be Gerald Wallace and to tell you the truth I don’t know if he really is a defensive wizard, just that he seemed to be one the last time the Lakers played up in Portland. He was a little too cheerleady (ML Carr) for my taste… and that hair.
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
Source: Access Hollywood
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
good quote
Ah Mark, I like you best leaving…
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
First and last time that Access Hollywood ever scoops Shaikin.
fbihop - January 30, 2012
Got an email for a LivingSocial deal for a weekend trip to Telluride.
First sentence: “Sure, they call it altitude ‘sickness,’ but the ill-est thing about spending a romantic weekend 9,500 feet above sea level is the view.”
Pretty sure throwing out a sickness that can progress to a life-threatening condition in the first sentence is not a good way to go for your pitch.
fbihop - January 30, 2012
USC just got an offensive tackle that had given a verbal committment
to Washington.
The most nervous coach in the Pac-12 is Jeff Tedford, he has one very big recruit probably deciding between Washington and Cal right now, plus a few more who could choose another school.
One thing that is interesting, now that Stanford is seen as being a good football program, almost all football recruits with the grades to get in to Stanford will choose them in almost any recruiting battle with another school.
bhsportsguy - January 30, 2012
Shaq Thompson looks to be bailing on his commit to CAL and heading up to Oregon with Arik Armstead.
VegasBlues - January 30, 2012
Hmm
I thought Washington.
bhsportsguy - January 30, 2012
I believe it’s between the three schools now but most of the rumors lately have said he wants to play with Armstead.
Side note: Armstead chose Oregon after ND and Auburn wouldn’t clear his older brother to play football. Nobody has said what is wrong with the older Armstead but counting USC that is now 3 schools that don’t think he is fit to play. Maybe he should give up on the sport.
VegasBlues - January 30, 2012
this man has no dick
nolander - January 30, 2012
yet somehow wasn’t chosen for the lead in Dogma
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
w/e he has it must be really embarrassing if they won't say what it is
nolander - January 30, 2012
weird, I wonder what it is…. he said his doctors say he is fine but teams wont clear him.
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
nolander - January 30, 2012
My guess (and a rumor floated out there) is that it is some sort of heart condition. He could easily be just fine but the risk of him collapsing is too great for any school to take.
VegasBlues - January 30, 2012
As for your Stanford statement. I’d argue that ND is just as likely as Stanford is to get those recruits.
VegasBlues - January 30, 2012
Perhaps
I think though for West Coast admits, ND will lose more than win right now.
bhsportsguy - January 30, 2012
Any idea what time the signing day show on FSN is? and what big recruits, if any, are announcing thei decision on that show?
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
ESPNU is doing all day coverage
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
ever notice how similar the lead singer from Arctic Monkeys and the Fratellis sound?
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
There is a restaurant called Fratelli’s near where Maddz used to have an apartment.
David Young - January 30, 2012
There is a pretty good pizza place in Victorville called Fratelli’s.
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
in Northridge?
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
Yes, Parthenia and Balboa, the weird westernmost fringe of Northridge.
David Young - January 30, 2012
Parthenia and Balboa is Northridge. Dam Northridge is freakin huge.
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
There is one teeny bit that is actually south of Roscoe! For some reason (numbers of homes or something), between Louise and White Oak, north of Saticoy is the Reseda/Northridge border.
David Young - January 30, 2012
By westernmost (in quality), I meant easternmost (in flavor).
David Young - January 30, 2012
It seems unlikely I would have known that about Nashville.
David Young - January 30, 2012
I just figured the earthquake hit Northridge because that is where the least collateral damage would occur.
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
The epicenter was in Reseda, which makes that more true.
You SB people are off-base about Northridge. It is like Torrance, large enough to have different kinds of parts.
David Young - January 30, 2012
When I grew up and where I grew up, we thought Northridge was the nice part of town
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Thought it was kind of funny the way Northridge stole the earthquake from Reseda.
jim hitchcock (railway) - January 30, 2012
The initial bad damage found was there. I think the epicenter was originally thought to be a little farther north, IIRC.
Also no one wanted people to imitate the girl’s dad in Karate Kid and say, “not that Reseda earthquake”.
David Young - January 30, 2012
There are some rich areas of Northridge. Who is calling Northridge ghetto?
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
this guy, though i know nothing of valley geography
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
North of Parthenia pretty much is
South of that depends on where you are. There is that project sometimes known as “Bryant Vanalden” which is in Northridge.
David Young - January 30, 2012
My rich friend lives in Porter Ranch.
kinbote - January 30, 2012
I am not rich
but I live in Porter Ranch.
David Young - January 30, 2012
If you need a good personal injury attorney, his name’s Jeffrey Kaiman :)
kinbote - January 30, 2012
Better Call Saul!
mleadman - January 30, 2012
yeah, Parthenia and Balboa isnt that good of an area…. But Winnetka and Devonshite, that gated community, isnt that Northridge? Shit looks rich to me… I guess thats Porter Ranch, but can be called Northridge I guess lol
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
Monteria Estates doesn’t consider itself part of any community, but they are in a Chatsworth zip code.
David Young - January 30, 2012
yeah having lived RIGHT THERE
it’s not the best but it’s not outright ratchet either.
there are really nice parts of northridge and really not so nice.
Maddz - January 30, 2012
Ah, yeah, Bryant Street, aka BST…. I hated going to the movie theatre on Parthenia with a fuckin major gang street across the street basically
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
I collected coins for the washing machines in that alley 33 years ago. Scary fucking place then.
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
Still is pretty much. I think my wife did home health calls call there when she had that job. She always scheduled the iffy places in the morning under the theory the gangbangers were mostly likely to be sleeping then. She always had the right to refuse a stop on safety reasons.
David Young - January 30, 2012
the weirdest for me was always Eddie Vedder and the guy from Creed
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
That’s straight up blasphemy.
regfairfield - January 30, 2012
she just threw words
nolander - January 30, 2012
Indeed
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
not even remotely close
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt that she meant the Creed guy is imitating EV.
kinbote - January 30, 2012
This would be a much better conversation in person, since we could all bust out our impressions of either Vedder or Stapp. :)
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
I remember hearing Dave Grohl on Howard Stern (maybe when he did Everlong acoustically) making fun of the Creed guy, then singing his parody of “Arms Wide Open”. The only thing I remember about the parody is – and I thought and think this hilarious – that he began one verse. “EE-NUN-SEE-ATE …”
David Young - January 30, 2012
If you haven’t made fun of Creed you’re just not living.
kinbote - January 30, 2012
The guy from Creed II
wasn’t as repetitive
mleadman - January 30, 2012
I'm fairly certain the beat from The Eagles - Already Gone
is almost the same exact beat for The Police – Roxanne in the middle of each song.
/something I remember from 3 years ago as sounding like it was true
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
Wha?
Like they happened to have the same beats per minute?
David Young - January 30, 2012
At this point I’m just talking to talk, lol. But at the points in the songs when they both become fast I swear i remember listening intently and thinking that one must have taken the background of the song from the other song.
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
All that I can tell you is that I have been know to play and sing “What I Like About You” and in the middle, without changing the beat or the chord changes, sing quotes from “R O C K In The U S A” (the title part) and Neil Diamond’s “Cherry Cherry” (the “she got the way to move/groove me” part).
David Young - January 30, 2012
like the same chord progression? that’s not uncommon.
hell, bebop came from charlie parker taking the chord progressions from old standards and speeding them the hell up
Maddz - January 30, 2012
yeah ESPN has the best nation wide coverage and most big time recruits announce on there, or whateevr, but FSN is more about the local teams, and usually have a few last minute local player announcements… I believe DeSean Jackson made his Cal decision on that show too…. pissed me off, but he never did beat us, so hope he enjoyed Cal anyways though.
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
Most recruits will have announced by then
check your local listings, Fox Sports usually has a show on around 4 or so, ESPN will have a show most of the day.
There a few recruits who like to do the whole hat thing but not too many and really not that many for USC since they really couldn’t wait and see for a lot of players.
bhsportsguy - January 30, 2012
More and more of the bigger named recruits are waiting until after national signing day to make their decisions. Most of those guys will be accepted by whatever school they choose because those schools will find a way to make room for them.
(This response wasn’t in response to what you said. Just needed a place to put it.)
VegasBlues - January 30, 2012
Basketball-Reference now has every NBA box score ever (i.e. Wilt’s 100-point game). But many of the older ones still aren’t searchable but rather scans of newspaper box scores.
Grantland had a story about how this came about.
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
I know this was the first Laker game I saw at the Forum
Box score
Two things about that game – Last game Elgin Baylor played. Last game Lakers lost for over two months.
This probably was the first Laker game I ever saw but I cannot be sure but this is the first one I remember going to and the first time at the Forum.
bhsportsguy - January 30, 2012
How does Riley have 9 FGs + 1 FT and have it total 17 points?
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
he went for 2
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
9 FGs already = 18 points
+ 1 FT
= 19
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
deducted 2 points for greasing the ball
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
It’s inaccuracies like that which lead certain players into coaching.
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
If you add up all the FG’s for the team it equals 1 more than they actually scored, so I’m guessing he only had 8 FG’s.
VegasBlues - January 30, 2012
yeah – I did that right after I commented
that kind of shit drive me bonkers
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
I had this version of this photo and yes, I got it at Der Wiernerschnitzel
bhsportsguy - January 30, 2012
My first Laker game ever was
later that same season, a game that was the then-record margin of victory. IIRC, Jim Cleamons missed a close in shot, perhaps a layup, in the final minutes that had us all groaning because we knew he was the only Laker not to have scored in the game.
David Young - January 30, 2012
Without clicking
Lakers 162, Golden State 99?
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
Yep
that was the score.
Unlike this year’s team, that team scored an also then record of over 100 points in 81 of 82 games.
bhsportsguy - January 30, 2012
The greatest thing about that team was the second squad, we seemed to win by so many that John Q Trapp become one of my favorite players and i was always hoping for a blowout so he’d get in the game.
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
For some reason
I do know I listened to that game because there is no way it was on TV. But I remember that record.
I also think that year or maybe the year before, Life magazine published an article about Wilt’s house in Bel Air. My friends and I were very impressed by the sky lights.
bhsportsguy - January 30, 2012
I am amazed that you guys remember
I have no way of knowing what my first Laker or Dodger game was
I do know that I was at this game on June 4th, 1976
I was the only Dodger fan in our group….
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Stated before
I do remember a Dodger game in 1972 that I went to but I don’t believe it was the first time I was there.
bhsportsguy - January 30, 2012
Like you
I am not sure what my first Dodger game was (been to too many), but I only got to a small number of Laker games at the Forum, and it’s not often that one see the margin of victory record broken, so there’s that too.
Pretty sure my first Dodger game involved the early 1970s Pirates of Stargell and Clemente – must have been 1971. We were not taken to sporting events as very small children. I bet sporting events in the 1960s were not attended much by children of single-digit ages.
David Young - January 30, 2012
1st Dodger game
Pretty sure it was 8/26/89 vs. Philadelphia
silverwidow - January 30, 2012
Summer 1962
iiidown - January 30, 2012
The 1st Dodger game I remember going to was 7/4/88. I may have gone to a previous July 4th game but I don’t remember it.
VegasBlues - January 30, 2012
Probably for the first 10 or so years of my
life, baseball was a product of mind, either from reading about it or listening to games on the radio.
bhsportsguy - January 30, 2012
Sadly every day of my life as I’m driving to work the words “and she is gone” will run through my brain 5 – 10 times.
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
I swear I get a little shaky when I see the highlight, even after all these years. “And look who’s coming to the plate . . .”
kinbote - January 30, 2012
First Dodger game
Was in 03 or 04, Kevin Brown v. Mark Prior.
Cubs won 3-0.
Taylor Maricle - January 30, 2012
My first Dodger game
was 1964. Koufax vs. Cardinals
mleadman - January 30, 2012
I was at that game as well
My Gra-Y team’s annual Laker game. Lakers scored 162 points and the high scorer was Jimmy McMillian with 22, I believe.
The Dude Abides - January 30, 2012
first Laket game I saw live
was 1972. One of the 13 losses that year. To the Knicks. I was in the nosebleed seats.
mleadman - January 30, 2012
that Wilt game – had 4 teammates in double figures and a fifth with 9 points
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
I love how the field goals in the Wilt box score are just raw totals that don’t show attempts. 36.
kinbote - January 30, 2012
I love crazy people like that
I’m glad they are around
I worked with this guy for years, come to find out he has his own archive at the Baseball HOF
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Trivia
The Dodgers have had the starting center fielder for the All-Star Game in each of the last two years.
Name the last team to have two different players start the All-Star Game in center field in back-to-back years (This has happened five other times BTW).
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
I’ll guess the Angels with Edmonds then Erstad.
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
That would have required one of them to start an All-Star Game in CF as an Angel. Last Angel to start at CF int he ASG was Fred Lynn in 1983.
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
Worth a shot
Who the hell beat out Erstad in 2000 when he hit .355?
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
bernie
nolander - January 30, 2012
Starting OF were Bernie Williams, Jermaine Dye, and Carl Everrett. Sounds like injury replacements to me.
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
nolander - January 30, 2012
Streak, my ass.
Nolij - January 30, 2012
There goes my Griffey to Ichiro guess.
regfairfield - January 30, 2012
Enough
with the Edmonds fandom :)
bhsportsguy - January 30, 2012
What can I say
He’s the best :)
Ivdown - January 30, 2012
my memory stinks
Ichiro & Gutierrez
Lofton & Sizemore
Young & Upton
Granderson & Jackson
Beltran & Berkman
kinbote - January 30, 2012
Much earlier
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
i have no friggin clue
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
yeah I turned that rubiks cube twice over in my head
then I threw it against the wall and walked away
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
The Dodgers – Wilile Davis and Jimmy Wynn.
David Young - January 30, 2012
Nope
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
I am certain they were back-to-back Dodger CF All-Stars, and the Mays stranglehold on the position was over, thus the guess.
David Young - January 30, 2012
Hint
One of the CF for the last team to do this has already been mentioned in these comments today
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
was it bobby bonds?
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
He played baseball?
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
Bobby Bonds (1975) and Bobby Murcer (1974) for the Yankees were one of the six duos, but there is another duo in between them and Ethier/Kemp
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
Fred Lynn, Yaz
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
Yes
1976 (Lynn) and 1977 (Yaz) Red Sox
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
The other 3
Yankees: Mantle (1961), Maris (1962)
Cardinals: The Man (1949), Slaughter (1950)
Cubs: Augie Galan (1936), Frank Demaree (1937)
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
You did carefully say “back to back years”, but was it back to back AS games?
David Young - January 30, 2012
They each started two games in those years :)
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
Ah right, they played two games, didn’t pick two teams for each league.
David Young - January 30, 2012
Pretty shitty group of defensive OFs to end up with an aging Yaz in CF.
David Young - January 30, 2012
Cool.
Xeifrank - January 30, 2012
Barry Bonds and McCutchen
nolander - January 30, 2012
More off the top of my Benadrylled head
Werth & Victorino
Gomez & Span [joking]
GMJ & Hunter
Devon White & Shawn Green
kinbote - January 30, 2012
Much earlier. I loved the last entry.
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
Anybody
Familiar with the Samsung 46" LED 6900?
jim hitchcock (railway) - January 30, 2012
i have that in a 55
delias man - January 30, 2012
I just bought a Samsung 46" LED – at least I think I did
whatever I bought, its a lot better than what I had before!
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Does the remote have a qwerty keypad on the backside?
jim hitchcock (railway) - January 30, 2012
nope
Hollywood Joe - January 30, 2012
Silverwidow has two of ’em.
kinbote - January 30, 2012
And five chili dogs.
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
natch
kinbote - January 30, 2012
For you mid-major hoops fans
ESPN is announcing its Bracket Buster games today, to take place from Feb 17-19.
No. 18 St. Mary’s will battle No. 10 and undefeated Murray State on Feb 18.
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
i understand LB goes to
Oral Roberts
delias man - January 30, 2012
errr.. Creighton
delias man - January 30, 2012
7pm PST on February 18, on ESPN2. That means a 9pm start in Nebraska.
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
I think this year you should give all starts in Nebraska time.
kinbote - January 30, 2012
and every post will have a YouTube link to Springsteen playing Nebraska.
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
at No. 12 Creighton.
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
It will be a good return game
in 2 years
delias man - January 30, 2012
Is that the arrangement? They get a return game? Nice
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
yup...
the return game must be played within 2 years
delias man - January 30, 2012
Cool. I like that system.
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
yeah for all the teams involved in it
got to have some motivation esp for some teams that have to make some shitty trip and aren’t even likely to be NCAA bubble teams…
the LB Creighton game should be fun. So should St Mary’s Murray State.
UCSB has to go to “old friend” Utah St which is always very tough place to play.
Not sure about some of the others yet.
underdog - January 30, 2012
Full list is here
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
Drake at New Mexico State. Go Drake!
fbihop - January 30, 2012
Love the Drake or hate the Drake?
David Young - January 30, 2012
MLB released regular season game times
As of now, the Dodgers have only 3 mid-week (Wednesday and Thursday) afternoon home start games, Brewers, Phillies and Arizona.
bhsportsguy - January 30, 2012
Southern California Sports Awards were today
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
Monday, when asked the score of the game, refused comment.
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
In all seriousness, I cannot stand listening to Rick Monday. I often listen to games, rather than watch — gotta do chores after the kids are in bed — and that means I get Steiner and Monday. Steiner gets a bad rap here — he isn’t great and he doesn’t know what the fuck to do with a fly ball, but his biggest crime is that he isn’t Vin Scully. Monday, on the other hand, is terrible – he talks to hear himself speak, he lets his stories get in the way of the ballgame, and he fails to do even the most basic tasks of an announcer. He brings Steiner down to his level. Awful.
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
You are over-rating Charley
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
That is true. I forgot another trouble with Steiner: if the play is anything other than routine, he either gets tongue-tied (I remember one play last summer in which I had to wait through 10 seconds of dead air while Charlie took everything in) or it sounds like he is birthing a llama.
Still, those are the odd plays and they don’t happen THAT often. Every single game for six innings (at least!), we have to wade through Just Another Moronic Monday.
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
Gawd, what was that play? I don’t remember any of the details now, but I was irate at the time.
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
triple play? loney at home?
nolander - January 30, 2012
http://www.awfulannouncing.com/2011-articles/august/charley-steiner-struggles-to-take-us-through-this-brewers-triple-play.html
nolander - January 30, 2012
nolander - January 30, 2012
That was it. Heavens.
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
I think we need more announcers like spanish announcers… They need more passion. Ernesto Jerez is the signature voice for Spanish-language baseball broadcasts on ESPN. His famous home run call, “No no no no no, �d�ganle que no a esa pelota!,” I love this call, even if I dont know what he said.
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
GOAL…GOALL.GOAL…GOAL.GOALL….GOALL.GOAL
is the greatest call in all of sport
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
you mean most annoying right?
nolander - January 30, 2012
Flagged.
fbihop - January 30, 2012
LONEY IS THROWN OUT AT HOME
nolander - January 30, 2012
Good opinion.
regfairfield - January 30, 2012
I think Steiner and Monday have a good rapport together.
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
Like Beany and Cecil
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
What is older, the “Leakin’ Lena” or Chick Hearn calling certain kinds of shots a “Leaping Lena”?
David Young - January 30, 2012
They have a good rapport with each other
but I wish they would invite Baseball in more.
nolander - January 30, 2012
THIS
They clearly like each other, but it isn’t exactly enhancing the broadcast most of the time.
David Young - January 30, 2012
I think they hate each other and disguise it with ridiculousness. In particular, I think Monday resents the fact that they brought Steiner in.
Nolij - January 30, 2012
Tom Hoffarth of the LA Daily News does his annual rankings of local sports radio/television broadcasters during this time
of year.
This week is his final column, play by play announcers or as he calls it Vin Scully vs. the field.
bhsportsguy - January 30, 2012
He rated Michael Eaves bad bad bad.
Does Michael do anything other then Clipper games? Because I have no complaints about him related to his Clipper work.
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
Does he do some Dodger work too sometimes?
uschris0304 - January 30, 2012
Eaves does a ton of baseball, mostly Angels.
He also wins points from me for having the longest running session of arguing with T.J. Simers over something TJ wrote about Eaves in a column last year.
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
I wonder how long he has to work with the B teams before he gets to work the A teams?
meercatjohn - January 30, 2012
new post
http://www.truebluela.com/2012/1/30/2759492/vin-scully-rick-monday-broadcasting-awards
Eric Stephen - January 30, 2012
One of my unwritten New Year's Resolutions
is to never again click on a Yahoo News story (I’m forced to see them when I log out from my email). Today’s was tempting: “In Search of the Best Canned Chili.”
Usually it’s something like, “How One Simple Hand Gesture Can Lengthen Your Life By Twenty Years.”
kinbote - January 30, 2012
Usually it is less hand gesturing that lengthens your life.
David Young - January 30, 2012
Followed by…
Humma Kavula - January 30, 2012
It’s good, Humma; but is it Yahoo News good?
kinbote - January 30, 2012
Correction
“Tastiest” not “Best.” Carry on.
kinbote - January 30, 2012
I believe G is an authority on this subject
Maddz - January 30, 2012
at Tommy’s, they’ll sell you chili by the bucket
Josie Becker - January 30, 2012
the key to a great can of chili is to never eat chili from a can
G.Scott - January 30, 2012
In order to take care of two posts in one…Chili Davis
BaldBilly - January 31, 2012
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