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Los Angeles Dodger Owner Handicapping


When the announcement came down early this that week that Joe Torre was partnering up with Rick Caruso, Daily News columnist Tom Hoffarth decided to handicap the potential owners. I have no idea if Tom is correct on how he handicapped them, but this is a good place to find out who all the players are as we look toward Jan 23rd.

Then again, it does beg the obvious question: Where were all these supposed heavy hitters about eight years ago when Frank and Jamie McCourt seemed to be the only option that baseball commissioner Bud Selig had when it came to handing over the keys to Dodger Stadium?

Tom thinks the recent Torre/Caruso group has the best chance of winning.

I was curious if the TBLA community would like to get involved in this. Looking for volunteers to write a fanpost about each group that would eventually find their way to the front page.

Joe Torre / Rick Caruso

Magic Johnson / Stan Kasten / Guggenheim Baseball Management

Larry King / Dennis Gilbert / Imperial Capital

Steve Cohen

Peter O Malley

Orel Hershiser / Steve Garvey

Fred Claire

Mark Cuban

Time Warner

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What about Josh Macciello

You are making Mason and Ireland feel irrelevant and out of touch…

Oh woops, too late.

I really liked him

and the assertion that he’s a young Mark Cuban.

I can't wait to read some of these

and would love to do one

but work, and wife, the girls in my life, they won’t let me

Reasons there are more bidders now than in 2003

a) owner not saddled with a bad TV deal for 10 years
b) new owner now gets to be a hero, in the sense that he/she isn’t McCourt

McCourt should have been a hero because he wasn’t Fox

I thought he was

I loved his Americana story of pulling himself up by his bootstraps, and buying a baseball team because of his love of the game, and that generations of McCourts would lead this team to victory, little did I know.

Is there a c.)?

woops…

c.) MLB has grown further in popularity, increased attendance, and opportunity for ad revenue such that it is a better opportunity than it was almost 10 years ago?

Great idea

At this point, I really don’t know which ownership group I should be rooting for

I’m rooting for the one that greatest distracts TBLA members from discussing music. When I’m in hell, I’ll be reading other people’s opinions of music, literature, and movies and won’t be allowed to look away.

THIS!

I love this post, it makes you appear so surly and ornery, that and your screen shot.

And I mean that as a complete compliment.

I call BS

Kinbote often joins in on the discussion. He’s just messin with us

I don’t like the casual dismissing of major artists/whatever by people with no pedigree at all. It’s no biggie, just painful to read sometimes. BTW, Mozart blows!

Court has a pedigree, but I’d agree with this sentiment if I gave a shit what anyone here thought.

Which I do, so quit telling people the music they like sucks. The editor of this site likes Journey for Gods sake.

If you go back to the discussion, I actually started out defending a band that someone else said sucked

You’re fine, btw. Wasn’t aimed at you.

That's cause he's a smart smart man!

I listened to We Built This City earlier (going in the 80s vein) and it rocked! 80s music forever!

Jefferson Starship was never Jefferson Airplane, and Jefferson Airplane was never Hot Tuna. Just my freaking opinion :)

You can tune a piano but you can’t tuna fish.

Another great album title

You Broke My Heart, So I Busted Your Jaw.

By Spooky Tooth.

Now that’s a good band. Almost as good as Atomic Rooster.

Ah, man Carl Palmer. What a drummer, what a drum kit.

Vincent Crane-from the Crazy World of Arthur Brown

intensities in ten cities

best album name

Marty Balin ruled on Red Octopus and Dragonfly.

Around Christmas, I was holding my soon-to-be-one great nephew and talking to his mom (who teaches piano) about how he needs to get started soon to pass Mozart. Then we basically agreed that Mozart had some help, like a parent doing his homework, when he composed at five.

I’ve often wondered how often four year old prodigies never lived to be five.

Yes, I’m a hypocrite :)

I call pre owner bation!

That’s OK, I’m a hypercrit.

I went to

super cuts

I like cunning stunts.

oh kinbote

you know you love the non baseball talk, just like Xei!

Love is probably not the correct description. :)
Just keep it out of the game threads when the leverage index is above one.

But why pick on music, literature and movies when there are coffee, watches, taco trucks, gym showers and video games. :)

I'm for

Magic/Kasten/Guggenheim

I’m all for whatever ownership group would be best, but I have decided I don’t want Magic a part of the Dodgers. I’d like to keep my memories of Magic Laker-centric. (and the Magic Hour, obviously)

I’d like to know the money behind Orel/Garvey and O’Malley.

It's just crazy enough to work
Fuck

The Mets signed Ronny Cedeno. Goodbye rest of NL.

I forget which national writer tweeted about it earlier, but I saw “Mets” and “R.Cedeno” and my first thought was Roger.

When 24-year old Roger Cedeno put up .313/.396/.408 (only a 106 OPS+ in 1999) with 66 steals and 60 walks in his first year out of LA, I was an angry man. It was equal parts “why couldn’t you do that here?” and “we let another one get away.”

That happened with me and the Belliards.

Then you remembered why we called him Wrong Way Roger

Haha

a 12 and 13 year old me could not understand why Cedeno seemingly played so much. He was so sucky as a Dodger.

DET vs. NO

Anyone know the spread?

Wings and fries!

10.5 or 11, depending on your site of choice

PTI said NO 11 point favorites

Catalina

Thoughts on the boat ride going over there? I enjoyed it a lot but it’s been years.

as long as your not fucking Walken you should be fine

Haha

At least someone gets it. Not me.

There's one type of wood

that doesn’t float

Or

as long as Robert Wagner isn’t on the boat

Take your dramamine

The slower boats out there can really start rockin’ and rollin’ if the chop gets high.

I remember going out there for 6th grade science camp, and 2/3rds the kids were puking over the side. It was awesome!

Thanks

I remember being out on the deck during turbulence…it was unbelievably fun. Wind and water hitting my face at 100 MPH. Great stuff.

I threw up on a docked boat at Dana Point.

You would never have made it as a pirate Eric

Captain Morgan would have keelhauled you so fast.

I felt bad for the dude in front of me in line for breakfast (it was an overnight 7th grade field trip). He’s the one who had to change his shirt.

Great signature idea

If the boat ride is taking years, they aren’t taking you to Catalina. Alert the authorities.

A three-year tour, a three-year tour….

The Island of Lost Middle Infielders.

I almost puked on the way out but was fine on the ride back to the mainland. I’d say about 20% of the people puked on the way out. It was really a close call for me. The Cubbies use to train out there.

I'll write up the Torre/Caruso fanpost

since it’s the easiest (i.e. a lot of info already out there).

this are my guys!

I am team Torre and Caruso

You launch your bid by casually tossing in the name of an investment banker who is a bigger fish than either Torre or Caruso

well, that makes my heart affluter

Just the possibility of Ned re-signing with the team makes me hope it's not the Torre/Caruso group
Amen, bro

My thoughts exactly unless Torre secretly hated Ned for his moves.

And I don't think anyone can out do Jon Weisman

On his take on Time Warner Cable

That leads into a second but not insignificant point. Operating a sports franchise is a big headache, and the Dodgers, with all their on-field and off-field needs, are no different. It takes a lot of manpower, and if you’re not doing it right — if it’s not your top priority — it can be a public relations disaster. And the odds are that lots of fans will find decide TWC doesn’t know how to run a baseball team.

Also, it’s not as simple as “we’re going to pay $4 billion for TV rights anyway, why not just buy the team for $1.2 billion” or whatever

Seems simple to me.
1. Write Check for 1.2 Billion
2. Sign media contract for 4 Billion
3. Watch Fox sports try to create a sports franchise out of the Clippers
4. Hire …………… as president
5. Let him run the Dodgers, with a proper budget
6. Stand back

You forgot...

7. Become frustrated when Dodgers don’t turn around as large a profit in the first year
8. Get hit with major capital investments, and that doesn’t even cover any upgrades or substantial improvements
9. Discover that capping payroll at $110 M isn’t going to win you a championship
10. Grow tired of hearing your Board of Directors complain that the Dodgers aren’t making enough money
11. Look for new buyers ASAP

I thought it was Time Warner buying the company and not Fox?

And there is a difference because?

Just sayin’

Agreed, but...

This assumes that TWC applies logic and reason to their decision regarding the Dodgers, and that’s really a crapshoot.

But then again

TWC isn’t run by a woman, so it might be possible.

HEY-OHHHH

Time Warner = AOL = Hufington Post. Yikes!

Time Warner and AOL parted ways back in 2009.

Always trying to find slivers of hope

Josh Fields still has a chance to become Casey Blake.
Blake home runs before his major league 30 year old season 20
Josh Fields home runs before his 30 year old season 34

It would be so awesome if (a) Fields actually worked out; and (b) Fields hit lefty.

Just nice to have a backup plan better then Russell Mitchell when Uribe fails.

how is Russ Mitchell a backup plan – the gap between Uribe failing and Mitchell succeeding would fit on the of a pin along with several thousan dancing angels

Big talk for a guy supporting a guy who even Russell Mitchell would have out hit last year.

I can’t really buy into what I wrote with any conviction

the comment got started innocently enough, and then just started to write itself to completion

and I read your comment with a john wayne voice going off in my head

I’m intrigued by the Bad Uribe/Good Mitchell nexus theory.

That's what Hairston's for!

I just figured he’d be playing 2nd base when Ellis gets hurt.

That’s what Adam Kennedy is for.

What is DeJesus for?

Freeing up a roster spot for Josh Bard.

That name again! He’s clearly our secret weapon this year.

Josh Bard is rather anonymous

I rec’d your similar comment a few threads ago.

“Loaded at back-up catcher, the 2012 Dodgers embark . . .”

That’s a freebie if anyone needs it,

It’s like crack, I can’t help myself

Bard is fast becoming this year’s Gimenez.

No he’s not.

If we talk about him enough he might.

All he needs is a nickname that doesn’t make any sense that kinda sounds like his first name.

I preferred Hector the Protector for the rectord.

I’m fairly proud I hung a nickname that made no sense on the community and they ate it up.

I don’t think anyone actually wants Bard, I just think it’s inevitable that he’s making the team.

He’s better than Navarro at least.

Do you think we’ll carry three catchers?

Gotta be heavy

“Next time come heavy or don’t come at all.”

he ain’t heavy, he’s my brother

Someone will get hurt or Ellis is going to AAA.

Brutal. I actually would feel bad for Ellis.

in what way?

Navarro the year before we got him: 49 OPS+
Bard last year: 66 OPS+

Such great heights and all.

i guess.

to me, the only reason i like bard better than navarro is because he’s not on a major league contract.

Damn, you could say that about everyone we just signed.

I don’t think anyone actually wants BardEllis, I just think it’s inevitable that he’s making the team.
.
He’s better than Miles Navarro at least.
I don’t think anyone actually wants BardKennedy, I just think it’s inevitable that he’s making the team.
.
He’s better than Miles Navarro at least.

No fair using Miles twice when the team bought 289 middle infielders.

totally

cop out

you are better than that Phil

Can’t believe I’ve forgotten about Sellers already.

How didn't we call him

The Pink Panther

One more than a DeJesus three

I just figured he’d be playing 2nd base when Ellis gets hurt and a left hander is pitching

The Korean the Padres got has a pretty impressive scouting report on BA right now. His numbers are absolutely nothing tho.

For nolander

I tried Flame Broiler again recently – it still sucks ass. I just can’t trust chain Teriyaki places anymore. Granted, I used to practically live at Yoshinoya…but this was many moons ago.

You are into Josie territory

Without benefit of a name, everyone here would know who wrote this post

because of “sucks ass”?

Bzzzz!

Sorry, Phil the giveaway was:

used to practically live at Yoshinoya

When you are done with it, I would like my brain back please

You suddenly have need for it?

(oooph :)

Sporadically

I mostly run on glue and tar

I had good Thai at lunch. Yet I don’t expect anyone to care.

but we all want to know, what was her name?

damn, first with the sushi joke, now this?

Are you the guy who just ate 5 chilicheesburgers from DW?

It was 5 chili dogs

but not recently

x

I have no comment.

I would have a comment, but it violates Rule 13.

If you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all?

That is not a rule.

Try telling mother that
yeah, fuck that rule.

and fuck you too.

the essence of the philosophy of the American west

you are western

naw man.

Levinas was all about that rule. And fuck him.

It was very good…but I felt like shit afterwards.

Just looking at those piece of shit plastic thingamabobs makes my sphincter spasm.

that is certainly a mouthful

That is a really good name for an intramural hockey team

The Spasming Sphincters defeated the Mother Puckers 5-2, with Phil Gurnee scoring a hat trick.

The chili distribution on each dog is exactly the same

there is not 5 dogs there!

Oh yes there are

They have just worked our their chili dog production runs to perfection. Its called science, believe it!

my favorite place! :)
You should try Yobigoya

Their meat is REALLY tasty, and only 13% horse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgUSozI4gxk

Call me old fashioned

I like to know what I am about to see

My bad

It’s exactly what Champ was talking about, Taco from the League doing a song about Yobogoya, haha.

Work block's YouTube

But if its Taco’s ode to Yobigoya, props to you man, props to you!

absolutely is :)
Very nice.

Tip o’ the cap to you sir.

Unnecessary apostrophe

/grammarhitler’d

I don't like Yoshinoya

but w/e, its ust chicken with a little ibt of sauche and then you can add your own. not there is anything there for it to “suck ass”

a term that could be used less and no one would mind

Are you posting from your iPhone?

Admit it, you are aren’t you

I'm living on caffiene right now

my fingers are all out of sorts on the keyboard right now.

and I would never post from an Iphone

Galaxy Nexus 4life

I hear that

Ahhh caffeine, what would we do without you.

Probably lots of speed and crack cocaine, so thanks coffee, for keeping me safe and off the streets.

Give me your favorite song of the 70s

My pick: “Tangled up in Blue”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCb0TsSIqI0

I love that song, but I am not sure I would call it my favorite of the 1970s. Need to think

Thunder Road or Born to Run. I go back and forth between the two.

This category is too broad. My favorite song from 1974 is Rebel Rebel, however.

Which I quoted for you yesterday as it turns out.

I would pick an Elvis Costello song if I could narrow it down to one.

Radio Radio was so spot on

No Action is a perfect song. Also, almost every song on Armed Forces is fucking gold.

Just one? Man that's tough, so I'll say

Dan Fogleberg’s “Longer”, which technically came out in 1980 but was first performed in ’79, and its just such a hard living, raucous, angry song. How can you not want to KILL with that song.

you damn kids with your Dan Fogleberg records
hahaha

now that i actually looked this song up, i really like this pick.

Actually, this song was from '79

And it includes the use of a flugelhorn, so there!

Full disclosure: I have only heard Blood on the Tracks and London Calling from the 1970s

you should listen to more records from the 70s then

I don’t believe you

X – Los Angeles
Bowie Suffragette City
Bruce – Born to Run

All seemed new and fresh at the time.

Los Angeles is from 1980

Nope, the original was 1979

X’s first record deal was with independent label Dangerhouse, for which the band produced two singles, “Adult Books” (1978) and “Los Angeles” (“We’re Desperate” was the b-side to “Adult Books”). The Dangerhouse session version of “Los Angeles” was also featured in a Dangerhouse compilation in 1979 called “Yes L.A.” (a play on the now-famous No Wave compilation No New York), a picture disc that featured other early-punk-era LA bands like the Weirdos and Black Randy.

oh. yes.

Having seen them in LA, I can attest I heard the song in 1979:)

Sly & The Family Stone — I Want to Take You Higher (Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin) was 1969. Boo)
Led Zeppelin — Dazed and Confused
Rolling Stones — Wild Horses
Stevie Wonder — Livin’ For the City

I loved the relevant Stevie

Nice Stones choice

Sympathy for the Devil was 1968, that’s my favorite Stones song, but Wild Horses isn’t too far behind.

And, really, I could have chose any of ten Zeppelin songs.

I should thank my dad for listening to really good music nonstop while I was a kid.

110 mph fast ball

Also known as Blue Bayou

Favorite song of the 70s?! There are about a million…that’s the greatest decade in pop music history.

How can you even reduce a decade to one song?

“You’re a Big Girl Now” from “Blood on the Tracks”

“Dr. Wu” from Steely Dan

“Going to California Song” by Led Zeppelin

Ask me in 5 minutes and I’ll have different songs.

Torre/Caruso group

as I think, with McCourt making the decision, he will go with who he knows. Then again, he needs the money, so he may just take the highest bid and run away laughing like a mad man.

I am pulling the ripcord

My buddy bought 20 pounds of pork shoulder and 5 pounds of fat back

I bought a case of wine and 4 pounds of Boar leg

We are literally going to have a sausage (making) fest this weekend!

Enjoy the weekend and GO STEELERS

This made me laugh. Have a nice weekend Joe.

Wait wait wait

And then you and your buddy are going to eat all that sausage and consume all that wine?

DAAAAMMMNNNN!!! You are my hero!

And I was pleased with my 5 pounds of Pork Shoulder
I like the fact that HJ dismisses

That one should never watch sausage being made.

He takes it a step further and participates.

I don’t even know what fat back is but I’m guessing it is self describing.

Isn't it what becomes bacon?
back for a sec - otherside of the pig

all white, all fat, all good, all the time

Sounds like bacon you would get from k-mart
No way, Fat Back bacon is prime

oSeriously, fat back is typically sought after for bacon connoisseurs, and yes they do exist, and no I’m not cool enough to be one.

perhaps I should have said looks like

this is what you get from k-mart

Have fun Joe

Last night I had some Boar belly as part of a dinner I went to, it was good.

Oh yeah, you had the gamey meal. How did that go?

Which begs the question

What is that white blob that makes it legal for bean sellers to call their product `Pork & Beans’?

Has a Kobe Laker team ever been .500 or less eight games into a season?

Gotta imagine some of the Smush Parker era teams were.

2004/05?

That was a sad, sad season.

Both

in 2004-2005 and 2005-2006, the Lakers were 4-4 after 8 games.

Wow

This place got dead in a hurry

Fat back can only last a man so long.

reminds me of a story I heard if a man over 100 years old

Whose diet consisted of three gallons of Thunderbird wine a week, and bread fried in fatback. When asked why he didn’t fry the bread in bacon, he said “Bacon’s too lean”

Ok Lewis Black

Love that guy :)

I love classic old guy stories.

This Lakers Warriors game is almost hilariously terrible

Both teams look like they’re drunk or haven’t slept for a week.

back to back, after the always tough Portland game

but yeah, Lakers look horrible, and Warriors should probably be up by more if they weren’t so lousy

conversely the Warriors could be down by 15 if the Lakers weren't looking so lousy

so the close score is about right ;)

at least Lakers finally remembered they were going up against Kwame Brown

Steve Nash might be the best guard ever that was going to soon to be 38 years old…meaning there’s never been a guard at age38 thats as good as him.

Have to wait until he’s 38 to find out. Jason Kidd may be up there as well.

This guy was pretty good at an advanced age as well.

Fielder will sign with Dodgers

but Tagliabue will void the deal in the best interests of baseball

ta who?
makes as much sense to me as Stern voiding the Paul deal

the league doesn’t own the Dodgers though.

and Tagliabue is a retired commissioner of a different sport.

Two more bidders for Dodgers

Shaikin: Two new entrants in Dodgers ownership sweepstakes: http://lat.ms/xpYyaa

these sound like guys

who just want their names in the papers……..

The TBLA bid goes in tomorrow then
Much better second half

Lakers Win

Just a guess: Torre/Caruso

if the money’s right, Torre is the most likely buyer not to trash previous ownership, since he worked for previous ownership and was part of the McCourt Era. Some of these other groups will crucify him everytime they have to fix something; Torre can’t.

What’s up Dodger fam? Anybody up on the west coast yet?

since 6AM!!!

Boar cube and soaking in red wine

Chopping and seasoning pork next

6 dead soldiers from the case of vino last night

LOL Nice….I used to be a huge red wine fan! I was a cab guy.

on my way.. :)

17 pounds of spicy italian mixed and in freezer

moving on to Chiang Mai Thai sausage

head is wobbly, but the heart is true

Just doing the do. Trying to find a way to watch the NFL games today. I have to admit I’m starting to get ansty for spring training.

42 days
Alabama

says that’s nothing.

Alabama or LSU?

I’m going out on a limb and picking the Roll Tide despite their home loss earlier this year.

Biggest game of nolander's life coming up at 1:30

LOL

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