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Dodgers 2012 Minor League Countdown: 80 - 71

Tyler Henson taking grounders at 3rd base during the Dodgers 2012 Winter Development Program

Tyler Henson taking grounders at 3rd base during the Dodgers 2012 Winter Development Program

Here is the next part of my Dodger minor league countdown. We are getting to the point of my ranking where basically all of the players could be considered fringe prospects at the very least, so most of the names should be pretty familiar. This group in particular includes a few younger players whose ranking is based on projection, as well as some older minor league veterans who are basically a breakout season away from making it up to the big leagues. As always feel free to debate my ranking and let me know who you think should have ranked higher or lower.

80. Matt Kirkland, 1B/3B (39 games in Pioneer Rookie Lg in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2010, 12th round
6’2”, 210 lbs, 21 years old, bats right handed
.292 average, .755 OPS, 4 HR’s, 30 RBI’s, 0 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: 59; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

Matt Kirkland was selected by the Dodgers out of high school in the 12th round of the 2010 draft, and although he had committed to play college ball at Tennessee he signed with the Dodgers pretty quickly. After signing he said, “It's a thrill. My family is excited. The community is excited. I got a lot of support. I think it's good for the community. I plan to represent my family and community as best as possible.” In high school Kirkland hit 17 homers as a junior and 11 bombs as a senior (with a .505 average). According to pre-draft scouting reports, Kirkland was described as having plus raw power and was also said to be an above average defender with a plus arm and good range. You can judge for yourself in this showcase video. After a short 16 game professional debut in the Arizona Rookie League, Kirkland spent 2011 with the Ogden Raptors. Matt put together a relatively solid campaign in his sophomore season, and even though he only hit 4 homers Kirkland managed to bat .292 and had a torrid month of July during which his OPS was .958. The one problem with his season, however, was that Kirkland has apparently switched positions from 3rd base to 1st base because that is where he spent the entire year. That move causes Matt to lose a ton of value as a prospect because while his bat would have been intriguing at 3rd base, as a 1st baseman his hitting potential appears to be average at best. I don’t think there will be room for Kirkland in a full season league in 2012, so I believe that he’ll probably return to the Pioneer League for another season. Hopefully he’ll get another shot at the hot corner so he can regain some of his value, but if he remains at 1st base for the rest of his career then I doubt he’ll have what it takes to make it to the show.

79. Travis Denker, 2B/3B (66 games in AA, 55 games in HiA in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2003, 21st round, released, then resigned in May 2010
5’9”, 205 lbs, 26.5 years old, bats right handed
.274 average, .879 OPS, 25 HR’s, 81 RBI’s, 9 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: 83; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

Travis Denker was originally drafted by the Dodgers in 2003, and moved slowly through the system before getting sent to the Giants in the famous Mike Sweeney trade of 2007. At the time of the trade, Denker was with the 66ers in Inland Empire and was having a pretty good season. Fast forward 3 years, and Denker was back with the 66ers after resigning with the Dodgers in May of 2010 as a minor league free agent. In between his time with the Dodgers, Denker spent time with the Padres, Red Sox, and Mariners, and even made it up to the big leagues with the Giants in 2008 where he played in 24 games and can tell his kids that he hit a major league home run. Denker finished the 2010 season in AAA with the Isotopes, but returned to the California League at the start of the 2011 season as the Quakes main 3rd baseman. After smacking 15 homers in just 197 at bats, Travis was promoted to AA where he finished the season. Denker did very well with the Lookouts, hitting .288 with 10 more homers to give him 25 total bombs for the year. He also walked almost as much as he struck out and had an OPS of .862 with the Lookouts. That being said, Denker had an ugly fielding % at 3rd base and was one of the older players in the league. In 2012 Denker will probably serve as an insurance policy for the Dodgers while playing the infield for the Isotopes. He has outstanding power for an infielder, but unless there are some injuries with the Dodgers I’m not sure he’ll ever make it back to the show. Finally, here’s a batting practice video of Denker during the Dodgers 2011 spring training.

Follow the jump for #'s 78 - 71

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78. Matt Wallach, C/1B (76 games in AA, 3 games in Arz Rookie Lg in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2007, 22nd round
6’1”, 205 lbs, 26 years old, bats left handed
.242 average, .740 OPS, 3 HR’s, 19 RBI’s, 3 SB
Pre 2011 Rank: 65; Pre 2010 Rank: 125; Pre 2009 Rank: 64

When your dad is the 3rd base coach of the big league club, you are going to get a little more leniency than most players. Such is the case for Matt Wallach who has had a mediocre minor league career, yet continues to get the opportunities that are usually reserved for the organization’s top prospects. You see Wallach has been invited to three straight Winter Development Programs, and thus has received more elite coaching than most minor league players receive during their entire minor league career. This was especially evident during this past January’s Winter Development Program when Tommy Lasorda specially asked for Wallach to get some additional batting practice after all the other players were done for the day. That being said, Wallach does have some potential as a Dodger prospect after a breakout season for the Dodgers in 2010 where he hit 11 homers and had a .773 OPS. While his stats came back down to earth in 2011, the fact that Matt has the potential for double digit homers while displaying plus defense give him the potential to at least be a backup catcher at the big league level. While he’s not on the Dodgers 40 man roster, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Wallach made it up to the big league club within the next two years. Matt will probably split 2012 between AA and AAA, and I see him as a September call up in 2013. He’ll never be as good as his dad, but I think he’ll get the chance to play in the big leagues at some point in his professional career.

77. Tyler Henson, 3B/OF (123 games in AAA in 2011)
Obtained in a trade for Dana Eveland
6’1”, 205 lbs, 24.25 years old, bats right handed
.247 average, .634 OPS, 3 HR’s, 36 RBI’s, 9 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

Tyler Henson was one of two players obtained by the Dodgers in the Dana Eveland trade. He was originally drafted out of high school as a shortstop by the Orioles in the 5th round of the 2006 draft, and his pre-draft report said the he was an athlete with good pop, but also had a questionable approach at the plate. After signing, Henson only spent 92 games at shortstop before moving to 3rd base. After a couple of seasons at the hot corner, his position changed again as he has been exclusively an outfielder for the past few seasons. Henson moved steadily through Baltimore’s minor league system, making all the normal stops before reaching playing a full season in AAA in 2011. He’s never been much of an offensive force, however, as his best season came back in 2010 when he hit just .278 with 12 homers in 124 games. Here is some footage of him from that season. Last year, he managed a .247 average with 3 homers and a .634 OPS, which is pretty weak for an outfielder. All that being said, Henson is still just 24 years old and already has a year of experience in AAA so it’s possible he could put together a good season now that he’s hitting his prime. He was invited to participate in the Dodgers winter development camp so the organization must think he as some value, and during the infield drills they had him taking grounders at 3rd base. At worst he could serve as an insurance policy for the Dodgers at AAA, although there will be several names ahead of him when the 2012 season begins.

76. Jaime Pedroza, 2B (87 games in AA, 30 games in HiA in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2007, 9th round
5’8”, 167 lbs, 25.5 years old, switch hitter
.258 average, .783 OPS, 10 HR’s, 50 RBI’s, 11 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: 58; Pre 2010 Rank: 59; Pre 2009 Rank: 19

Since getting drafted out of UC Riverside in 2007, Jaime Pedroza has had an interesting career path. After an outstanding offensive season in the Pioneer League in his professional debut, Pedroza was sent to HiA in 2008, his first full season. While his stats weren’t quite as impressive with the 66ers, he still had a solid season at the plate and was probably looking forward to playing in AA. However, the Dodgers had other plans for Jaime in 2009 and sent him to LoA. While he was probably disappointed with this assignment, he responded with career highs in homers (15) and stolen bases (36), and also hit this big home run during the playoffs. In 2010 Pedroza finally got that promotion to AA, and while his power and speed numbers dropped significantly, he still had a decent season for a 2nd baseman with a .280 average and .779 OPS. Jaime returned to Chattanooga in 2011, but he didn’t show any improvement and actually regressed a bit so he was demoted to HiA for the final month of the season. It must have been quite frustrating for Pedroza to find himself back in the California League after almost 2 seasons in AA, but he made the most of it and put up solid numbers including a .848 OPS. Overall, even though Pedroza has been very mediocre over the past few seasons and has a very small stature, the Dodgers minor league talent at 2nd base remains thin so he’s still a relatively important player in the organization. He plays serviceable defense and has a decent bat for a 2nd baseman, so at the very least he can serve as another insurance policy for Los Angeles. In 2012 he’ll probably return to AA, although he could also spend the year in AAA depending upon how the spring training invitee’s shake out.

75. Rick Anton, LHP (27 IP in LoA, 17 IP in Pioneer Rookie Lg in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2011, 8th round
6’0”, 190 lbs, 22.75 years old
1-1, 3.07 ERA, 1.14 WHIP, 2.61 FIP, 6.14 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

Rick Anton didn’t have to go too far to make his professional debut after he was drafted by the Dodgers. After going 9 – 1 as a senior for the Utes in 2011 with a 2.52 ERA and 85 K’s in 100 innings, the University of Utah left hander only had to travel 30 miles up the road to Ogden where he played for the Raptors. Anton only started 6 games in the Pioneer League, however, because his impressive 1.59 ERA and 0.94 WHIP earned him a promotion to the Loons in late July. Rick found LoA to be a little more challenging as his ERA jumped to 4.00 over 27 frames, but I’m sure some of his decline was related to his heavy workload in 2011 (he combined for 144 innings between college and minor leagues). In terms of his stuff, the always reliable Hugh Bernreuter provided some useful information in a recent article about Anton. Apparently Rick wasn’t even a draft prospect until his senior season in college which is when he starting throwing a cutter. According to Anton “I probably wasn’t on the radar. But I got stronger and I picked up the cutter. It made a big difference. Guys started hitting a lot more grounders. I’m not a strikeout pitcher, but I started getting a lot of ground balls.” Baseball America’s pre-draft report said that Anton also throws a curveball and a changeup, and that his fastball can reach 92 mph (although in Hugh’s article says his fastball was only clocked as high as 88 mph). Heading into 2012, I would guess that Anton will return to the Loons and spend the year in the rotation. He seems to have some potential as a prospect as he seems to have enough pitches to stick in the rotation, but his ceiling doesn’t seem all that high. I could see him maybe being another John Ely, just without all the mania.

74. Nick Buss, CF (115 games in HiA in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2008, 8th round
6’2”, 195 lbs, 25.25 years old, bats left handed
.328 average, .880 OPS, 14 HR, 55 RBI’s, 28 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: 103; Pre 2010 Rank: 80; Pre 2009 Rank: 27

Nick Buss may have been the Dodger minor league comeback player of the year in 2011. After hitting .243 for the Quakes in 2010 and posting a .612 OPS that earned him a mid-season demotion to the Loons, Buss turned things around completely in 2011 in his return to Rancho Cucamonga. His.328 average led the team, as did his 28 stolen bases. He also showed pop with 14 homers, struck out in just 11.9% of plate appearances, and was nearly flawless in center field. While I’m not sure about his throwing arm, you could almost say that “Chili” showed 5 tool abilities this past season. After the season Nick played in the Panama Winter League, and while his stats were quite as good as league MVP Blake Smith, he definitely held his own with a .302 average and a .845 OPS. Overall, Buss has finally started to show the talent that the Dodgers saw when the drafted him for the second time back in 2008. While his stats were probably a bit inflated because he was playing in the hitter friendly California League, there is no question that he’s shown drastic improvement. Now 25 years old, Buss should be ready for AA in 2012 and with another good season he could really put his name back on the prospect map. His skill set actually reminds me a bit of Jamie Hoffmann, and if he could follow the same path as Hoffmann and make it to the majors then I would say his career would be a success.

73. Jeff Hunt, 3B (45 games in Pioneer Rookie Lg in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2009, 15th round
6’2”, 190 lbs, 21 years old, bats right handed
.272 average, .790 OPS, 4 HR’s, 17 RBI’s, 2 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: 57; Pre 2010 Rank: 37; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

Selected by the Dodgers in the 15th round of the 2009 draft, Jeff Hunt turned down a scholarship to Ohio University and signed with the Dodgers when they offered him a $125,000 bonus and up to $114,000 in education money if he enrolls in school within two years of retiring from professional baseball. Upon signing Hunt said it was a tough decision, but also explained that he wanted to play every day instead of having to worry about school work. Hunt’s professional career got started a little late due to delayed US visa paperwork (he’s from Canada), and his 2009 stint with the Arizona Dodgers was mostly just a learning experience as he only played in 18 games. Hunt returned to the Arizona Rookie League in 2010 but an injury limited him to 18 games for the second season in a row. That brings us to 2011 which saw Jeff get promoted to the Pioneer League where he was the Raptors primary 3rd baseman throughout the season. Hunt had somewhat of a breakout season when you consider what his lack of playing time over the past two years, although he didn't wow anyone in his first stint as a starter because struck out way too much (32.4% of plate appearances). Even still he batted a respectable .272 while hitting 4 bombs and posting an OPS of almost .800. His defense definitely needs work, however, as his fielding percentage was a sloppy .816. I've been a fan of Hunt since he was drafted, but he’s now 3 years into his professional career and I haven’t seen a whole lot of progress. He’s still just 21, but he’s going to need to show way more improvement in 2012 if he wants to be considered a legitimate Dodger prospect. My guess is that he spends next year with the Loons which should give us a good look at his potential.

72. Greg Wilborn, LHP (43.1 IP in HiA, 65 IP in LoA in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2009, 18th round
6’2”, 175 lbs, 24.75 years old
6-7, 4.98 ERA, 1.66 WHIP, 3.92 FIP, 10.63 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: 44; Pre 2010 Rank: 124; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

Greg Wilborn was selected by the Dodgers out of the University of Louisiana Lafayette in the 18th round of the 2009 draft, and for his career with the Ragin Cajuns Wilborn compiled an ERA of 7.30. However, it should be noted that he missed the entire 2008 season after undergoing Tommy John surgery in 2007. Upon signing with the Dodgers Wilborn had a forgettable professional debut in the Pioneer League, but he put his name on the prospect map with an outstanding season in 2010. He split his time between the Raptors and Loons and posted a 2.62 ERA, an 11.70 K/9, and a dazzling FIP of 2.13. Thanks to his brilliant season Wilborn was promoted to HiA in 2011 and began the year in the Quakes rotation. His first few starts with this new team went pretty well, but then in early May he got shelled in back to back appearances which was the beginning of the end of his time in Rancho. In mid June Wilborn and his 6.85 ERA was sent back to LoA which is where he finished the year. After the demotion, Greg said “You’re never happy about being sent down, but I knew I was going to a place I was comfortable and had success. I like the park. I was familiar with everything here, plus I played with a lot of these guys last year at Ogden.” The good news is that Wilborn did pretty well in his return to the Midwest League as he ended up making 14 starts and recorded a 3.54 FIP. He also stuck out batters like crazy and had a K/9 of about 12.5. In terms of his pitching repertoire, this lefty features a slider, curveball, and changeup, and can get his fastball up to 94 mph. He has velocity and secondary pitches to remain in the starting rotation, but at almost 25 years old he might have a better chance of making it to the Show as a left handed bullpen arm. Wilborn will probably get another crack at the California League in 2012, but if he has early success then a move to AA isn’t out of the question given his age.

71. Carlos Frias, RHP (16 IP in HiA in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers 1/3/07
6’4”, 170 lbs, 22.25 years old
1-1, 6.19 ERA, 2.13 WHIP, 7.45 FIP, 6.19 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: 42; Pre 2010 Rank: 32; Pre 2009 Rank: 71

Carlos Frias’ professional career got off to a great start, but over the past two seasons his stats have gone in the wrong direction. Signed out the Dominican Republic as a 17 year old before the 2007 season, Frias posted a 1.81 ERA in his professional debut in the DSL. He was then promoted to the Gulf Coast League for the 2008 season and held his own despite being one of the younger players in the league. He spent most of 2009 in the Arizona League and it was there that scouts and coaches began to notice his 96 mph fastball and his overall potential. After jumping onto the Dodger prospect radar, however, Carlos struggled with inconsistency in 2010 and ended up with ugly stats in the Pioneer League. His velocity was down, and he had trouble controlling his strong curveball. That brings us to 2011 which saw Frias spend a few months in extended spring training before getting a surprise assignment to the Quakes. Frias only appeared in 12 games out of the Rancho bullpen, but he had a rough season as he walked more than a batter per inning and posted a 6.19 ERA. He also saw his strikeout rate drop significantly and allowed 3 homers in just 16 innings. Overall I love Frias’ potential given his strong frame and potential for a mid 90’s fastball, but his struggles over the past two years give me some real concerns about his future. He’s still just 22 years old so he has plenty of time to work on his secondary pitches (he also has a changeup and slider in addition to his fastball), but he needs to get results soon if he wants to be considered a legitimate Dodger prospect. My guess is that Frias will spend 2012 with the Loons, either in their bullpen or in their rotation.

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Clippers

3 point favorites in Utah tonight. I am a little surprised at that as the Jazz are pretty tough at home. Would be a nice road win.

Not that it matters what happened in the 90s and 2000s (before this season)

but the Clippers are 1-42 in Salt Lake City since 1990. That’s just crazy.

Home Malone?

yeah like since Jeff Malone

Has to be the worse record in professional sports. 43 basketball games is not even small sample size. We shall see how big a difference a healthy Chris Paul makes in a game like this.

And if Jefferson is out for Utah, they are in trouble.

The Lakers got a road win in Utah; the Jazz can’t be that tough :)

I remember Xeifrank not being impressed with Utah after watching that game.

I think it was the early season home game vs Utah. They looked like a shit team. Obviously they aren’t when everyone is playing. :)

Did we get the wrong Pedroza too? (Actually not; I haven’t heard word one of the deposed Pedroza since the trade—he’s no Ruggiano!)

Denker

Denker? Denker?

Seriously, Denker? Can we just plug him in at 2b and see what happens (not serious)? I want to know right now what we have in Denker. He was in then out then hot then cold—now he’s back. He may be a poor man’s Justin Sellers but he’s ours again. Don’t break our hearts, TD. We’ll forgive you your time with the Giants. It was foolish of us. There’s so much to say but so little time. Denker, the days without you seem . . .

Until last year he could say he had a higher career OPS than Matt Kemp!*

*Might not be true but it was close.

When you look at the stuff we have lying around our middle infield, we have to at least give him a look. Is there a point you cross over into a purely organizational player? He has 42 big league PAs to his credit, and as you say, he didn’t embarass himself.

Problem is that Denker doesn’t field well enough to stick on the back end of a roster as a middle infielder, or hit well enough to be a bench bat.

That the Pirates or some other hopeless team never rule fived him is a huge sign.

What about 3rd base?

I don’t know.

Career .905 fielding percentage there in the minors.

Like I said below, there’s a lot of Travis Denker’s out there.

Hey lets give Corey Smith the starting 1st baseman job
Denker

Pretty sure I read that he was slow as hell. Listed at 5’9" and over 200, so fireplug of a dude.

Also, as another example of why guys want to be ballplayers, here’s a pic of him:

MLB tweeted this

with the tease of pitchers & catchers reporting soon.

My question is: who is this pitcher? Brad Penny?

Sitting in Ohio, where winters are dull and gray, this looks awesome. Every year it begins to thaw me out.

Too skinny to be Penny.

Shadows are slimming

Brett Myers?

I cheated, it’s Jon Rauch.

Jeff Hunt has a been a huge disappointment, as has been Frias.

All aboard the Buss Bus.

RIP Don Cornelius

Immortalized in rhyme by De La Soul:

The Soul reached high plains
We didn’t reach Soul Train
But Don don’t like rap
So that won’t happen
Fame we don’t lust
God we do trust
Arsenio dissed us
But the crowd kept clapping

from “Pass the Plugs”

AA outfielders will be an interesting bunch to follow this year. Curious where everyone ends up.

so etheir will be doing zumba in the outfield this year?

first yoga now this? Whats next?

Strippercise

You are lucky Maddz isn’t around.

Rick Anton was inexplicably included in one of the Bowman sets this last year. Not that baseball card companies are renowned for their scouting acumen, I was glad that someone had a modicum of hope for him.

Is it possible Denker could be a poor man's Dan Uggla?

Maybe a homeless man’s.

Denker is supposedly horrid on defense. I read somewhere that he has “slow feet”, so I wonder if he could even be a spot player at 2b

That's the one part that sounds a bit similar to Uggla. :)

Possible, yes. Remotely feasible, no.

I'm all about the technicalities my friend

So I like your response best! lol

He very well could be, but there’s a very fine line between Uggla and out of baseball.

Do you know just how bad Denker’s fielding is? Are we talking 2008 Jeff Kent?

Just going off what other people say it’s real bad.

The thing is there’s Travis Denkers everywhere. No one knows who Daniel Mayora, Tyler Kuhn or Zelous Wheeler are but they’re all 2B/3B types that are too old for the southern league that hit like Denker. We notice when one of these guys turns into Dan Uggla it’s a story because a thousand guys just like them never amount to anything.

Uggla’s 5 billion game hitting streak to get his average above the Mendoze line was something to behold.

In the same sense that Hiram Bocachica could’ve been a poor man’s Alfonso Soriano.

Wilkin Ruan was almost a poor man’s Tom Goodwin!

Chad Fonville

poor mans Bip Roberts

Ron Coomer was a poor man’s Olmaedo Saenz

Hee Sop Choi

Poor mans Jason Phillips

Matt Luke was a poor man’s Danny Heep.

Oh, Media

Headline reads “Rodgers rips effort of NFC players in Pro Bowl.” The lede of the article claims that he “blasted the effort.”

The offending quote: “I’ll be honest with you,” Rodgers said on ESPN 540 in Milwaukee. “I was a little bit disappointed. I felt like some of the guys on the NFC side embarrassed themselves.”

Boom. Roasted?

I heard the interview on the radio yesterday. He elaborated a little bit and essentially said the effort was lacking but what could you could? He apologized to the fans and basically admitted he was surprised some of his teammates weren’t trying very hard.

But still, this is a story? It’s more like an Onion headline: “Area Man Disappointed Nine-Year-Old Son Fails to Take Responsibility for Own Actions”

I was actually surprised to hear an NFL player criticize his teammates. I assumed it must be a big shot [I came in mid-interview]. He’s probably still mad about losing to NYG. I just assumed nobody ever tried at all-star games (unless they count!).

Steve Garvey tried his ass off in All-Star Games!

So did Pete Rose. :)

Sean Taylor cared.

RIP Meast

Ray Fosse didn't try hard enough!

Why even have a Pro-Bowl? No one goes to the game. No one watches the pre-game events. Football isn’t football when it’s played at half-speed and people aren’t trying to knock each other’s heads off.

It is charity for Hawaii

It was in Indianapolis, right?

They were going to have it there, but it’s too cold and stupid and smelly and and the other things nolander says it is.

not according to twitter pics of janikowski laying on the beach

i did not watch the game.

always hawaii

otherwise no players would show up

Hmm

I thought there was some movement a few years ago to have the game at the site of the Super Bowl during the bye week. I guess that was scrapped.

i think it happened once and went back to hawaii

With no Rich Gannon, I have no reason to ever watch

I went to the Pro Bowl when it was at the Coliseum, every year from 1966 to 1972. One of the Dads on my street used to get them from work for free.

The NFL can afford a significant charitable donation without the contrived dog and pony show.

I agree. Just name the All Pro but dont have an actual game like College has All Americans, but no All American Bowl….. Dont really like how its always in Hawaii either.

First prospect list

that I think I recognized a name. Guess I need to start studying our deep deep prospects a little more.

Nah, 99% of them will never amount to anything.

Right. Brandon does the research so you don’t have to.

I’ve been recognizing a lot of the 4th-10th round draftees from the past few years that never did anything.

Pratt Maynard should be taking notes.

Kirkland

I really do hope they move him back to 3rd. I was excited about him there. Not sure what the point of moving him was unless it was just temporary to give others a chance, but hope he goes back. Esp since his defense there is pretty decent.

yeah me too

there is always the possibility that he had a minor issue in his throwing arm so they wanted to give him a rest by putting him at 1st base for a season, but I couldn’t find anything to confirm that at all

I’m sure they saw his bat and said that bat is to big to waste at 3rd base, lets move him to first. We don’t want to embarrass all the other piece of shit 3rd base prospects we have.

Maybe they moved him since the team is far more invested in Jeff Hunt.

yeah that's possible

I just thought Kirkland would have gotten at least a few reps at 3rd base

That’s his Signature position after all.

I was unimpressed with the Kirkland variety 12-pack of beer I received several years ago from my mother-in-law. Maybe it was the label . . .

That Hunt will dog.

They also tried him out at catcher in extended.

I don’t know why they didn’t keep him at 3rd, he was a pretty decent fielder, especially given his size. He did have a little arm tenderness/soreness tho… but that wouldn’t explain the move to 1st since he was tried out at catcher which involves a lot of throwing as well.

Nike Reveals New NFL Cleats

I'm sure everyone on here will hate them

but I like em.

they are great

Nike will embarrass the fuck out of what reebok was doing. that and New Era back in on the hats is a winning combination.

The best looking ones

The Cardinals, Panthers, Colts, Raiders, and possibly Bucs.

Does the NFL have a single-source contract for shoes?
Yes

no

maybe
There is an overall contract between the NFL and Reebok as a whole as far as jerseys, pants, and Helmets. However players are allowed to pick which company to sponsor by wearing equipment such as gloves, shoes, cleats, shoulder-pads, mouth guards, etc.

Nike got the same contract Reebok got, albiet with more money involved

maybe

silent treatment

maybe
#kit

right?

would it ruin the joke if I didn't know what you where going for here

Not really, I see people keep saying just “kit”, so I thought i’d try and be like the cool kids.

/failed

“People?” Hollywood Joe ain’t “people.” He is a shimmering, glowing star in the TBLA firmament.

wow I should stop in more often

can I tell my wife that?

Still? That’s cold

The NFL really is a socialist entity.

Everyone should either wear black or white

it don't matter

If they’re black or white

I’m thinking of being your baby.

Why?

Wannabe Billy “White Shoes” Johnsons.

I'm just waiting for HJ to tell us how much he hates them right now

HJ will post the matching time pieces that go with the (team based) Armani sponsored post game suits the players will be wearing.

Phil at least indulged the conversation rather than complain that nobody should care.

He is trippin if he doesnt like them, these are tight!… Besides, I think he’s in India or something.

I wish Raiders would get those shinny silver helmets like Oregon had, that would be awesome.

i dont think he should travel this close to the tournament. risky.

Just don’t tell nolander that cleats back in the day looked better

NEWARK – Changing planes – 3 hours left on my layover

In the United club eating small packages of Tillamook Cheddar and drinking big glasses of subsidized Artemis Cab

It is going to get rough from here boys

Just don’t tweet that you are going to destroy India. And by destroy you mean partying it up of course. :)

HA

I already said I loved them before I even seen this note!!!

Try to put a fence around me

Try to

All I will do is lie in the hay and expect to fed

FEED ME

Yeah. You’d get the idea than nolander stereotypes all of us that are past a certain age or something.

I heard that Josie is giving him the silent treatment

Seymour

Oh, if you want to go there, I can go to show tunes with you.

Would you like a Cadillac car?
Or a guest shot on Jack Paar?
How about a date with Hedy Lamarr?
You’re gonna get it (if you want it, babe)

They may offer you fortune and fame
Love and money and instant acclaim
But whatever they offer you, DON’T FEED THE PLANTS

different direction and nicely played

Ebony and Ivory, come together in perfect harmony
Side by side on my keyboard
oh lord
why can’t we?

that is from memory

those were released pre-pro bowl, and only worn by certain players. Individual sponsorships will still come first

There were also these


But again, individual players are free to wear what they like.

It took me a minute of looking at all of these to know what the hell they even were, I didn’t realize it was two gloves put together, lol.

I thought it was finger tricks! I was waitng for the dog, the rooster and the horse.

Here's some finger tricks

Those photos give new meaning to the term

Cock’s-comb

I like them

in general. The Rams need to go back to the lighter, more yellow shade of gold they used to have.

I like everything football in black and gold

hell I want a pair

to do what with I will never know

must be the wine talking

Are you in India yet?

See above, working my way down

Killing time in the club

i love every single one of these.

Pettit

why is LA not buzzing about the Dodgers signing local free agent and former Angel Chris Petit? ;)
http://lasordaslair.com/2012/02/01/dodgers-sign-chris-pettit/

He’s a latter-day Reggie Williams (II)

Angelenos are an apathetic bunch ;)

What

Yusmeiro Petit wasn’t available, so we took the best available Petit?

I’d rather have Andy Pettitte, or Bob Pettit for that matter.

Too many Ts

to qualify.

Mat Latos is like, “Fuck yeah!”

IN the picture at the top, it kinda looks like Henson laid an egg.

Those who are not busy getting laid are busy dying or something like that.

Seems a little odd

that one of the leading candidates to buy the Dodgers is tweeting to the players on the team. I can see being excited about trying to buy the team, but this doesn’t really seem like a great strategy. I will let you guess who tweeted this.

@ToxRellim @therealmattkemp Hey Matt I can’t wait to own the Dodgers so we can win multiple titles together buddy!
Its Cuban all over again

That is obviously Torre.

He did used to text Andruw.

yeah but this isnt a text, its a tweet. Does Torre even know how to tweet? im gonna say no.

If you know how to text, you know how to tweet.

If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball.

I’d rather have a free bottle in front of me than a prefrontal lobotomy.

Marcello is awesome please let the Dodgers be owned by a crazy person.

Its gotta be a white dude, only white dudes say buddy haha

hey buddy

hey buddy buddy, yea buddy

I’m not your buddy, guy!

I'm not your guy, friend!

I love fucking Buddy Guy

Saw him at some outdoor amph in the OC, played with Carlos Santana and BB King, I was tripping on Silly Simon

years later I saw him again in Milwaukee during summer fest, the drunkest concert in America and Kid Rock came on stage and played with him

Both times, live music = magic!

I saw him at the Playboy Jazz Festival a few years back. He woke up a sleepy crowd for sure.

See

this is why all you kids need to Be Like Humma

Dude married up, knows his Jazz and Blues, you too can land a woman beyond your expectations, BE LIKE HUMMA

… only taller.

Unless you're Gary Coleman

…isn’t that pretty much a given? :D

You have never met me in real life. Don’t forget, I’m multifaceted two-faced. In real life, I try to be like the person I play on the internet.

Don’t be like the real me, kids. Be like the me I pretend to be.

since I already went there earlier

I’m looking at the man in the mirror
oh yeah
asking him to change his ways

The universal message from parent to child:

Don’t be like the real me, kids. Be like the me I pretend to be.

My Buddy had a black variation too

my buddy, my buddy, wherever I go, he goes, my buddy…. dam, thanks for the childhood memory.

i love this train of thought

Best possible owner among the choices.

Marcello is awesome please let the Dodgers Giants be owned by a crazy person.

FTFM

Dam that soul train dude commited suicide? That sucks.

RIP Don Cornelius

68.2% of suicides of men between the age of 28 – 77 are homicides unless you live in Indy in which case suicide is your only way out.

Sources: Playoff expansion difficult
However, multiple sources continue to tell ESPN.com that it’s not yet safe to say that adding two wild-card teams for 2012 is “pretty definite,” as Selig suggested to USA Today this week.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7528219/complications-hindering-efforts-expand-2012-mlb-playoffs-sources-say

Not yet safe to say pretty definite. Oh-kay.

I definitely think sources say it might be safe to think there might be a good chance that something will happen.

It’s far too early to take a wait and see attitude.

From Fangraphs' Top 15 Dodger prospects
14. Ivan De Jesus Jr., 2B/SS: Another son of a former big leaguer, De Jesus’ career was derailed by a nasty broken leg in 2009, which caused him to miss all but four games. He doesn’t run as well as he used to but the infielder has produced two solid seasons in triple-A since returning. De Jesus hit .328 recently in the Puerto Rico Winter League and has nothing left to prove in the minors. He should be a solid big league starter at second base.

Bold mine.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/top-15-prospects-los-angeles-dodgers/

BOOO YAaHHHH

We all know that

solid mean barely fair

Dodgers need to do him a solid.
Translation

he’s got a shot at Aaron Miles’ career.

He should be so lucky as to make over $6M in career MLB earnings and have a 141 career ERA+ !

Solid big league starter.

Number 14 prospect.

LOL Fangraphs.

That is only because we got so much more in front of him:)

Oddly, Chris Reed profiles as a “More-than-solid big league starter at 2B.”

By this logic

Numbers 1 through 13 should be solid major leaguers at worst.

2 solid setup man
6 starting pitchers
1 starting right fielder
1 starting left fielder
1 starting catcher
1 starting 3rd baseman
1 starting CF

So yup, WGT

Step 2

Extend Loney & lock up Dee.

I still find it funny that AJEllis, who wasn’t deemed good enough to be a back-up, is now the de facto starter.

Ha ha funny, or this year old sour cream tastes funny funny?

The neighbor sure goes out to that shed at night a lot funny. I don’t trust it.

I think they’re using my numbers without attribution so I’m about to get real mad at them.

They don’t have access to the same streams of information you get your data from?

Where?

They gave out Baldwins average against lefties and that data isn’t available on their site. It could be internal but I’m checking.

Oh, nice catch.

Well

that would suck

sue them for a billion dollars

I’d go for $1.1B

Why stop there when you can sue for real money?

Sue for 1.5B

and buy the Dodgers :D

Dejesus breaking his leg ruined everything

First Uribe, now Ellis and we’re still stuck with Uribe.

They’re definitely drinking the Joc Kool-Aid too.

Wow, Chris Pettit and TSL in Salt Lake of .167 / .263 / .268. At first glance when you see that you think it was an injury rehab and maybe he got 30 or so at bats, but no, that TSL was in 243 plate appearances. I did not think that was possible in the PCL in Salt Lake by anyone.

He missed all of 2010, does anyone know why? Maybe 2011 was simply one long re hab year because it was one of the worst years I’ve ever seen in the PCL. In 2009 he was decent, good OB guy, very much a Jamie Hoffman.

FUCK!, no Mayweather-Pacquiao dammit…. Will be Mayweather vs Cotto May 5th, probably Pacquiao vs Tim Bradley June 9th. Mayweather vs Cotto is cool, but Pacman vs Bradley is weak ass shit.

The new president of HBO Sports says the long-desired Manny Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather bout has a “sell-by date” of later this year or early next year.

It’s never going to happen

a friend of mine is a lawyer for top rank and he agrees with this

What's so difficult about it?

I mean we can make Freddy vs. Jason happen but not this?

/don’treallycareaboutboxing

Also Ballistics Ecks Vs. Severs. Those two whatevers didn’t like each other.

Would rather see Eckstein vs. Severs.

Ask this friend to ask Arum whats his fucking problem?? Ruining boxing even more then it is, all for greed. Fuck Bob Arum.

why though?? it doesnt make any sense… Dont they box to make money?? Fighting eachother would make them the most money ever in their careers, and they could even have 2 or 3 fights…. Bottom line is Pacquiao needs to stop being Arums little bitch and force it to happen IMO.

Because they can make a lot of money not fighting each other and not losing.

right, I understand they still can make alot of money, but I mean, at some point doesnt your legacy matter to you?? They will forever be tainted by not fighting eachother. Its a question they will be asked for the rest of their life everywhere, why didnt you make the fight happen???

They can cuddle their miniature giraffes while they cry themselves to sleep.

i enjoy how personal you are taking this

If this fight was a yogurt, it’d be mold flavor.

If it were a drink, it’d be boxed whine.

if it was a watch, it’d be a swatch.

If it was a metaphor, it’d be a bad metaphor.

What’s a meta for?

World Peace cognition.

We need baseball.

I’m a huge Bradley fan (you must be too Eric) and happy to see him get a shot, but this is bullshit….Arum cares only about bizness….news at 11 I know

exactly, Arum is a greedy bitch. Thats all this is about. Arum doesnt control Mayweather so Arum wouldnt get as fat of a payday off those 2 fighting. Arum does control both Manny and Bradley, so he makes more of this fight. Arum is putting the nail in the coffin of boxing

I like Cotto, but he has nothing for Mayweather

Mayweather vs Cotto is atleast orderable, but Pac Man vs Bradley is a fuckin joke if they are trying to sell that as a pay per view, which I assume they are.

both will be good fights…..but still

I dont know, Bradley is 28-0 but hasnt fought anyone that good doing it. Lamont Peterson is probably his best win IMO. I just cant believe Pacman rather pass up fighting Mayweather to fight this guy. Anyways, maybe its better then I think, but I wont pay to see it.

Pacquiao doesn’t want to lose. Mayweather is the most likely person to make him lose.

And vice versa. Mayweather has learned that he has to publicly look like he’s pushing for the fight, then add poison pills to it like insisting he gets more money than Pacquaio for the fight.

Yup. Hooray for boxing.

Yeah but Arum was the one who said Pac Man would likely fight May 5th, when it looked like Mayweather was going to be in jail. Then all of a sudden when it came out that Mayweather got his jail time pushed back, all of a sudden Arum says Pac Man wont be ready by May 5th because he’s still hurt from his last fight. Cant fight til June now, when he knows Mayweather isnt available. Whatever, the whole thing is BS.

Bradley has fought a lot of good fighters. More than most in his position. Peterson, Alexander, Witter, Holt, Cambpell, and Abregu was no slouch

Lamont

Is an awesome name

at least we get more 24-7 out of it

Mayweather-Pacquiao will never happen.

I think it will happen, but probably going to happen when its not as powerful of a fight as it would have been if done earlier…. I dont know, we’ll see….

Jay Jaffe

encountered Larry Bowa and had a great time

GIving Bowa credit for Kemp and Cano blossoming is irksome.

“Clearly, calling a young guy a fat, lazy bitch is a tried and true method for making them better.”

OK>>>>

Did anyone watch Luck?

Still on my DVR. Should I be excited to watch it?

yeah

the first 15 minutes was rough it all made sense after that

who what now
first episode directed by Michael Mann?

nice

Peyton Manning’s favorite show.

haha

(PS: I watched it, has lots of potential, I heard from a critic that it gets great around episode 5, so I guess stick with it? But man a lot of Milch’s fast unique dialogue is hard to follow.)

I usually watch tv around Volume level 12

I had to go to 20 just to hear the dialogue to follow it.

Volume plus subtitles would've helped me, at least at times.

Felt like my parents for a few minutes.

I really want to talk about batman now

The first time it was on. I’ll at least watch one more.

Yes, liked it, still fuzzy on Hoffman’s character.

Liked it

but I liked John from Cincinnatti

same on both!

allegorical christ is really the best kind

go ask Aslan, when he’s 10 feet tall

I did enjoy the quirky show, other then the yeller mom.

surfer chick was cool

Yes, I liked every single character but mom.

Man, if there was ever a mintxcore signal, this is it.

Best January in 15 years

1%

Some of us regular folk have stock exposure too.

I have indecent exposure.

Multitasking!

I have Northern Exposure on DVD

This sounds like a new chapter for the Colts
Adam Schefter
Colts new OC Bruce Arians: “Hopefully Peyton can come back and get ready to go. But, there will be a new quarterback and a new beginning.”

Have they turned a corner?

right into the path of Roger Goodell

Who says, “it’s Super Bowl week, shut the fuck up about Peyton Manning.”

Nolander was right. Even Goodell doesn’t want to be in Indy.

In the beginning God created Peyton Manning and it was good. But in the “new beginning” God created Andrew Luck and it will be good.

Chris Paul might have missed some of these games

but in the past, his Hornets were 3-8 in Utah.

Let’s remember that Utah has been a playoff team for almost all of this time. And the Clippers and Hornets were just not that good for some or all of that time. Though winning once in over 40 games is somewhat unbelievable.

How many bidders are left for ownership and who are they?

Off topic, but I have not seen a definitive list.

Sorry, no one is allowed to go off topic here.

Ban.

Haven’t used it in years. Tom’s of Maine.

It says something about TBLA when legitimate dodger talk is off topic

But to answer the question

We don’t really know. A lot of people say they’re down to a final eight (MSTI did a good job of compiling the likely eight) but some people are saying “at least eight.”

And that Cuban seems to be out, right?

and Dennis Gilbert is for sure out

And the TBLA kickstarter went nowhere.

MSTI has this list:

1) Magic Johnson/Stan Kasten/Mark Walter
2) Joe Torre/Rick Caruso
3) Steven Cohen
4) Stanley Gold/Roy Disney family
5) Peter O’Malley / E-land
6) Stan Kroenke
7) Leo Hindery/Marc Utay / Tom Barrack
8) Alan Casden
And Macciello.

Don’t believe anyone has a real, definitive list, though.

Where’s Time Warner in all of this? Also, what happened to Rochester, NY native Tom Golisano? Didn’t he say he was throwing his hat in the ring months ago?

I guess the price got so high that Time Warner decided it was would no long be cost effective to buy the Dodgers for the TV rights and would be cheaper to just work out a TV deal with the new owner.

If Stan Kroenke wins, I will totally write a parody praising his name to the tune of West Side Story’s “Gee, Officer Krupke.”

Only trouble will be what to do when I get to the end of the song. Hey Billionaire Kroenke, Kroenk you? Doesn’t really work.

If Kroenke wins

I hope to title a post or two, “And That’s The Way It Is”

Kroenke that Soulja Boy

I bet big on lotto

I expect to come back from India with a harem of trained monkeys, two elephants that can talk, a snake that can spell Dodgers with his gyrations, and enough money to make all our wishes come true

er, maybe my wish

or not

Forward Edson Buddle, who was a fan favorite during his previous stint with the Galaxy, has returned to the club, the team announced Wednesday. We goin back to back baby! haha

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/soccer/post/_/id/14298/edson-buddle-returns-to-galaxy

Sucks that he couldn’t make it in Europe. US needs some more top tier players.

he is like 35 years old.

so… no big deal.

30, but close enough.

I still like to see Americans succeed in Europe.

maybe they need to build more inner city soccer fields?? I dont know, but I agree, I want to win a World Cup already.

Maybe they need to find some existing soccer fields and install some mobile concession stands.

How dare you

http://losangeles.sbnation.com/la-galaxy/2012/2/1/2764351/edson-buddle-signs-la-galaxy-free-transfer

lol, only SB Nation I see is in here…. dam you write about soccer too?? I love that wide range of sports writing, awesome.

my bad though, sorry.

I leave most (all) of the soccer stuff to Josie, but she is busy and reading a press release isn’t hard :)

I can say that I have at times thought Edson Buddle’s name was either or both Edison and/or Buddie.

Thought it was Edinson.

Edsel Button

28 soccer fans dead, in after game fighting in Egypt.
#SoccerRules #MLS #LAGalaxy

shouldnt of been talking shit.

Last I saw it was 40.

I wasn’t counting Raiders fans.

Now its up to 73.

people are a problem
people are people

and why should it be…

In the increasingly likely scenario that Edwin Jackson and Roy Oswalt get nothing here are your 4-7th biggest contracts for SPs this offseason.

Aaron Harang
Wei-Yen Chen
Chris Capuano
Bruce Chen

yikes.

it was a pretty terrible market for pitchers this offseason. it makes me wonder why Edwin Jackson would take a one year offer when he reportedly has a three year deal on the table. Next off season is going to look very different.

Everyone wants to trade for Edwin Jackson but no one wants to pay for Edwin Jackson.

The simple answer is he doesn’t have a three year deal.

I still wish we had Kuroda.

Kuroda knocks off Bruce Chen off the list since he wasn’t on ESPN.

or it's a three year deal for the orioles

and he doesn’t want to play for the orioles for the next three years

It’s incredible that a guy who is as good a shot as anyone to give you 200 innings of league-average pitching has no suitors. That guy can play for the Dodgers as far as I’m concerned.

I would have much rather had Roy Oswalt and Edwin Jackson than Capang.

Or Kuroda and Jackson.

I would have rather had Justin Verlander and CC Sabathia, but what does this have to do with anything?

exactly my thoughts.

i think the choice on that one is pretty obvious, but there are restrictions to those choices.

And they can be yours if………. the price is right!

I didn’t know that Verlander and Sabathia were free agents this year and have gone unsigned and their price has likely dropped a lot since the start of free agency.

Strategy may have been to build team early due to sale of team. Plus ouw front office bought their crystal ball in Tijuana.

Under no circumstances with Edwin Jackson or Roy Oswalt sign for less money than Capuano or Harang.

for a while we thought prince fielder didn’t have any suitors.

Strasberg
Gio
Edwin
Zimmerman
Lannen

Looks good to me.

Speaking of Edwin Jackson

meh.

he may not be a superstar, but he could make the middle of the rotation on most teams in the majors. not a bad career at all.

And if you add in RPs, weren’t a couple of closers signed to massive contracts?

Papelbon got 50, Bell got 27, Joe Nathan got 14 some how.

as bad as some of Ned’s deals are this offseason, I think that Joe Nathan contract trumps any of them

It’ll be a better use of money than Harang.

i disagree.

Yeah, I don’t see that.

I think Harang is going to be a complete disaster, but I understand people disagreeing.

My expectations for Harang aren’t very high. If he can pitch like a fifth starter, then he’s done his job. Joe Nathan missed all of 2010 and a good chunck of 2011 (and din’t pitch very well in 2011). Even if he comes back strong, he’s still a relief pitcher and will max out 70 innings. I think the chances of him earning that contract are pretty slim.

Define “pitch like a fifth starter.”

If he pulls in around his career average 4.25 ERA and puts up 150+ innings, I’ll be satisfied.

Yep, I’d be satisfied with that.

If this was the winter of 2011 a year ago

this would be a description of Jon Garland.

Oh I agree to that, I just think Harang is gonna get destroyed and pull a suck muscle by the end of June and I’d gladly take 60 innings of middle relief over that.

If the Dodgers’ fate in 2012 is dependent on the choice between Harang and Nathan, they’re probably screwed anyway.

Humma

What’s going to happen when the Dodgers surprise everyone and trade for a star bat before the deadline and go on to win the division and make the NLCS again

If that happens, then: well, Zach Lee, good luck on your new team.

Lots of teams could use a solid second baseman.

I don’t know who has less of a chance to be our 2013 opening day 2b: M. Ellis or IDJ.

IDJ. He is going to be traded before the season is done.

Should be able to get something in return for our #14 prospect!

We need to trade someone to get that middle reliever.

Who knows. All I know is it seems our org doesn’t like him.

I know that he somehow didn’t hit a home run in the PCL until July last season. Then he hit 8 in two months.

“found his stride”

Could be

But if we get the big bat we’ve been coveting (any actual big bat I suppose, I’d love Wright because I think he’s in for a rebound) it will be worth it.

i think the dodgers could put together some interesting trade packages without Zach Lee or Dee Gordon

I could definitely see the Dodgers making a trade for Carlos Lee, where the Astros eat a fair amount of salary, and the Dodgers trade some of those pitching prospects without necessarily including ZLee.

You have picked a good candidate. Go-nowhere team, monster contract, of which 2012 is the final year, will not require a top prospect.

On the other hand, it’s a non-zero chance that Carlos Lee will not be seen as an impact bat come the deadline.

And the Astros won’t be competing in 2012, 2013 or 2014, so they can wait on a A+/AA pitcher to develop a little bit.

I also failed to mention that Nathan’s two year contract starts at the age of 37 while Harang’s starts at 34.

At worst I see him being a 1.5 WAR pitcher

I see things wrong a lot.

Bill Murray is really frustrated by the idea of a comparison between Harang and Nathan.

but what does fdr think?

whispers

no one will ever believe you

No one will ever believe me about what? I say so many things, so many of them unbelievable.

its a bill murray meme
Sorry, I assumed everyone had heard about the legend of bill murray

http://seriouslulz.com/no-one-will-ever-believe-you/

Remember, I’m old and stupid.

You forgot “short”

Joe Nathan 2/$14.5M
………..vs
Aaron Harang 2/$12M

the risk adverse don’t want to skin their knees on the Asphalt

really bad work there

ted lilly and capuano are going to carry the staff

who cares about harang?

David Wright

What would you be willing to trade for him over the summer, and how many people actually want him? Clearly his defense isn’t good or close to average anymore at 3B, but take away his (still above average) stats from this year and he’s still a guy who can hit .285/.360/.485 or better. He dealt with injuries this year, which is why I’m not concerned about the number drop.

Has he really fallen off that much defensively? Or maybe he was never that good to begin with, though my perception he was good with the glove.

Last three years

UZR: -30
TZ: -37

So if he is destined for 1B in the near future, my response would be why bother.

He’s better than Loney or anyone else available in the 2013 free agent pool, but the Mets situation tells me there’s no way they’re picking up his option, so you might as well wait until he hits FA if you want him.

The Mets wouldn’t want him to walk without getting anything in return though. If they don’t trade him to the Dodgers, they’ll probably trade him to somebody else, who might pick up that option.

He’d have to have a hell of a year to get a 16 million dollar option picked up.

Pick up the option/sign extension/renegotiate/whatever. Maybe the Mets pay a little bit of that. No matter what, the Mets aren’t likely to just let the face of the franchise walk without anything to show.

A 3rd round pick for Jose Reyes counts as something.

If they decline his option, they won’t even get a pick. And Reyes wasn’t the face of the Mets.

Was trading Reyes in an MVP type year really ever an option for them

hell yes

him playing well increased his trade value

Is this a real question?

They are a large market team (with clear problems, but not knowing much about it how can a team like the mets even justify an under 75 mill payroll?) not super out of contention for most of last year with their franchise player playing like an MVP, if Kemp had been a FA at the end of the year in 2011 rather than 2012 I’d still have been super pissed to trade him.

They are a team that lost $70+ million last year with an owner under indictment and facing worse financial problems than the Dodgers, who are in bankruptcy.

The Mets knew 100% they weren’t going to re-sign Reyes. They absolutely should have traded him.

Keeping them helped them make the playoffs. Wait..

Wright can decline the option

If he’s traded

The Mets wouldn’t want him to walk without getting anything in return though.

See Reyes, Jose

They did get something in return (albeit not much) and they will not repeat that mistake.

because they thought they where getting a first before?

I’m guessing they where aware the CBA might change and they very really could end up not getting a first round pick for him. So whats changed?

they will not repeat that mistake

Why not? They are the Mets.

They can get the same thing in return for Wright.

If they did get something it might ruin Wilpons “I am too dumb to understand a Ponzi Scheme” defense.

If he’s not capable of sticking at 3B for another 3-5 years, I’d probably pass.

This is assuming Votto gets extended? Kendry?

Both 2014 free agents.

Its so hard to say what Id be willing to trade because I have no idea what it would cost.

He’d likely have more trade value to the Mets going to a contending team as a 3-4 month rental.

TMZ says Loney won’t get charged with a DUI.

Loney also allegedly refused to take a breathalyzer … and spit the mouthpiece back at the cops. He was arrested on suspicion of DUI and cops took a blood sample to test for drugs and alcohol.
.
But the toxicology report came back NEGATIVE … and now, the L.A. City Attorney’s Office has decided NOT to pursue the case “due to insufficient evidence to proceed.”

Call him Steven Seagal cause he just dodged a bullet.

He’s not on drugs, just crazy. Woohoo!

They don’t call him Weird Game James for nothing.

he bumped his head

nothing to see here, move along

Shock

can do weird things to a person. I was once hit by a bus, and my immediate reaction was to flee the scene. I had to be physically detained by bystanders who wanted to make sure I got medical attention.

It can also cause you to blast your stereo, then put on headphones and turn those to full blast before a crash too.

Don't know any facts

Could be all the above.

He’s just cool enough to score drugs that we don’t even know about.

It’s a little depressing that our starting 1b could be suspended 50 games and we’d probably be just about the same.

50 games James, no biggie

50 games Jim, we gots problemz

Good lawyers & being famous FTW

Now if this were uschris who acted like this, it’d be a different result, amirite? Not that he’d do this of course.

with no proof?

no

I really have no idea. But it sounds like he tried to flee the scene of a fairly serious car accident, then there was some kind of scuffle with the cops with the breathalyzer.

With tests that showed zip,

nada, nothing, zilch? I think any one of us would get that same result: arrested, released, case dropped.

probably a ticket for reckless driving

maybe even in trouble for resisting arrest or not lawfully obeying an officer, but certainly not a DUI.

Wouldn’t there still be a charge of resisting arrest?

And fleeing the scene of an accident. And getting the shit tazed out of you when you did resist arrest.

Also

had two friends suffer life threatening injuries in a car accident. One of them also tried to flee the scene due to shock. I think more is being made of this than need be.

I'm thinking since he was obviously not "alright" to the point where they had to check him into a hospitable

they just decided to let it go

either that

or they knew who James Loney was.

I think he got the same result that anyone without a record would have gotten. [Where this leaves uschris, I don’t know :-) ] No ticket/reckless because the cops didn’t see anything but the results of an accident. According to the 911 caller, he attempted to flee the scene in his car, not later from the cops. Refusing a breathalyzer is not resisting arrested. No statement from police that he did anything to them.

I concede that Loney’s attorney is probably better than most of us can afford.

We’ll have to agree to disagree then. :)

According to the 911 caller, he attempted to flee the scene in his car, not later from the cops.

This is incredibly illegal.

Refusing a breathalyzer is not resisting arrested

Spitting the mouth piece back at the cop is.

no

its assault

Yes, it is. Still, it is based on one witness saying he did it.

so they handcuffed him and transported him to a nearby hospital where the baseball star allegedly refused a breathalyzer … spitting the mouthpiece back at cops.
This was at the hospital. Loney very likely lying in a bed or sitting and the cops were standing. How close do you think they were? In fact, in a hospital, would cops even be trying to administer such a test? (I have no idea.)

and we all know loney doesn't have homer power

No I dont have any records, just CDs, and a Zune player.

since no one else has said it

here
today
TMZ can go fuck themselves

fucking vultures

If they ever did fuck themselves, at least they would be right there to cover it.

TMZ Reporter Fucks Self! EXCLUSIVE!

Softball schedule is finally out

LFP Blog. I updated the fanpost.

TBLA plays Dodger Bobble at Tiger Stadium, Those Sons of Bi..Steve Garvey at Fenway, then Vin Scully is My Homeboy at Dodger Stadium.

I am a little disappointed we aren’t guaranteed to play the Dodger Thoughts team since we’re practically friendly rivals.

this way we can meet in the finals. :)

Two teams could be playing 6 games. I love softball and all and often have double headers on weekday nights in our league here, but after 6 games… I’d definitely be feeling it that day and the next.

At one hour max, they are more like 80% of a game, but yeah, I hope all our players show.

I’m still looking for the list of ASA rules. Didn’t see anything on the ASA site. Checking the BLD site now.

It says ASA under the schedule. Don’t worry, I have an awesome ASA bat.

Do you have or see a link to the rules? This is the only thing I’ve found so far (pdf).

Things I am most interested in knowing are….
1) What does the count start at?
2) Any penalty for walking a female, if so what is it?
3) Does the outfield play behind a line when a female is batting?
4) Any mercy rule.
5) Time limit on games? If so, what is the rule. No inning can start with less than X minutes left on the clock?
6) Are there two bags at first base? One to hit for rounding the base and one to hit for running through the base.
7) Any limit on HRs? Not sure what fence depth is.
8) Any special sliding rules?
9) All pitches between 6-12 feet high?

sorry it was above the schedule

Each team will have at least a 1 hour break during the tournament to redeem their meal ticket.

1. We will need a roster from each team in order to check in the teams.

2. Rules – ASA

3. During check in we will have waivers for your group to sign.

4. Please pass the word along to your teams so there isn’t any confusion as sometimes our guests are not aware of our food and beverage policy

he’s wondering what those rules are.

Yes!

What are THOSE rules. They aren’t stated and no link given and the pdf I am reading has different levels of rules. They need to be spelled out somewhere or there will be a hell of a lot of confusion at the first game.

just swing at the ball and run.

If you try to bunt on Gary, he will stick that ball in your ear hole.

I might as well wear a dress if I’m going to do that. Not that people that wear dresses are any less of a person or anything. #SoccerRules

BTW

This is a slow-pitch tournament, right? I don’t think his posts have ever said, and I’ve just been assuming…..

ACtually, it is kickball.

i’m still holding out hope for a TBLA old vs young rematch hardball game.

prolly never happening

We will fuck you up Gary

Just a 3 inning limit for any pitcher and we will beat the holy hell out of the youngsters

I watched the youth of TBLA swing, saw better cuts under a bandaid, better swings at the park

better

oh never mind, never gonna happen anyway

haha, i want to go drinking with you just to see this in person

of course it’s never going to happen. I’d Steve Nebraska you guys! :)

Do they make 23 oz bats? That’s what I need to get around on 85 these days.

you can buy a -11.5 somewhere

ELP CALL BACK

Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends
We’re so glad you could attend
Come inside! Come inside!

We will do a 30 and over in about five years

haha loved this

Can you tailgate in the parking lot? haha

haha. Says no alcohol on the premises and no food or drink can be brought in other than bottled water. #FoodNazis

#businesspeople

You can’t bring your own food into your daughter’s Chuck E. Cheese B-day party either (except the cake).

so they give you a ticket? wonder what they are serving.

The BLD Stadium Club

There’s beer on tap in the Stadium Club and a half-stocked bar. I wonder if they just mean that we can’t sneak in our own booze?

So sorry!!

ASA rules mostly pertain to the certification of the bats, as I believe other rules, such as initial count for at-bats (i.e., 0-1, 1-1) and pitch ceiling are determined by the individual party hosting the event. ASA bats are rated to have an exit-speed of 98 mph, while the other associations like USSSA allow bats with exit-speed in excess of 110 mph.

The tournament director should have a meeting with the umpires and team managers to discuss the tournament rules.

I’ve asked.

I’ve played in tournaments where the first home run per lineup is the only one who can hit a home run for the game. Anyone else is an out. Course those teams had four or five guys who could hit a home run so they have to have that rule to limit the carnage.

TBLA team may also be interested in if they allow courtesy runners.

my last nerve

you are standing on it sir

If you had had the nerve to show up for the softball game you would have noticed that the oldies were outrunning the youngies silly on the basepaths.

to be fair

that’s because you got more hits than us

wait

My legs are still tired

I'm a whiz on the basepaths

I could be the designated runner

no peeing on second base

sure since you play SS

how bout 3rd?

communism

HEY, DOES ANYONE ON OUR TEAM HAVE THOSE NITROUS BATS THAT PEOPLE USE THESE DAYS?

Get some flax seed oil. That’ll do the trick.

I was bummed, too. I guess I’ll have to put my team on Xeifrank’s shoulders for the big finale.

Glad we got the 9AM start. I’m gonna need that one extra hour of sleep.

"Friendly Rivals"

or double-agents

If I am reading the weird layout of this schedule correctly, TBLA plays…

8AM vs Dodger Bobbles on Tiger Stadium
10AM vs Sons of Steve Garvey on Fenway Park
12PM vs Vin Scully is my Homeboy 1 on Dodger Stadium Field

Top 6 teams go to single elim tourney, with first and second seeds getting byes.

uh

the fields must be wrong on there

yeah, the flight from Boston to LA is going to suck

oh right

yeah its stupid the way they laid out that grid. STUPID.

Yes!

very confusing. But once you figure it out….

If we don’t beat the living shit out of everybody you will all hate me more than you ever secretly or publically ever did

If I lose to a team called Dodger Bobbles, I am going to shave my head, pick up my begging bowl, and spend the rest of my days wandering as a monk

but really, it’s all about having a good time

This tournament is a total crap shoot. The winning teams will likely be the ones that have an A-level high-arc pitcher as a roster ringer.

BULL HUCKY

The teams that win will be the teams who want it MOAR

WHO WANTS IT MHORE?!?!?!?!!

I expect dirt in the skirt

It’s a bunch of blog commenters. Every team should be named the Twisted Panties.

And here I figured the teams that score the most runs will win the games

On a more serious not. Drill a couple lined drives back at that high-arc pitcher and you’re bound to rattle him. This is my contribution to the team.

Note: This usually only works against older pitchers who have slower reaction times than they used to when they were in their athletic primes. Oh, and they have to be cowards that are scared of a ball.

team TBLA will be fine in that regard

That’s a good way to get your car keyed in the parking lot…. or something worse.

The teams I played on in the past always had a hot-head or two on the team that would try and start fights (usually later in games when the 2nd or 3rd 12 pack of beers had already been opened), but we never had any fights over someone hitting line drives at the pitcher. It’s a risk that comes with the position.

After these games that either had arguments or near fights break out both teams (and the teams on the other fields) would all go to the same sports bar and have a good time. Once off the field everyone was friends.

Unwritten Rule

Purposely hitting line drive back up the box will incite an “Middle War”. Pitchers typically police their own hitters because they know they’ll be the victims of retaliation.

The middle war

dangerous comment

next thing you know we are going to get 4 hours of comments on elves, dwarves, and Viggo Mortenson

We should be so lucky :)

Hitting line drives AT the pitcher (especially near the head) will first time get you a dirty look and second time get you in trouble after the game where I play. You just don’t do that stuff in a for fun league. I go up the middle non glove side on the pitcher sometimes but I keep it low. If it is unlimited height pitching then that is a different story as those pitches are harder to aim for the batter. I nailed an older pitcher in the knee with a line drive once and felt awful for it having happened. Even though it was an accident, I got plenty of stares from some pretty big dudes.

I just see the ball and swing hard

Where is goes is up to it

I almost always went to right center. Too many dumb teams love to stick their 2nd worst players out in right just like they did in little league.

Right

i can’t control the ball like that

I believe it.

I wasn’t being serious with my suggestion of hitting line drives back at the pitcher. My entire post was snark.

I’ve just never been involved in a game that had a fight over it. It wasn’t something any of us ever did on purpose. I’m competitive in everything no matter how “fun” the games are supposed to be but I stay away from anything that might risk injuries to others.

I had a ball hit so hard at me at SS that it nailed me on the thigh. Of course I don’t see as well as I use to. But couldn’t imagine a ball with that same kind of speeding hitting the pitcher.

No Bueno

A pitcher in my Hermosa Beach men’s league got his face re-arranged by a line-drive. I get queasy just thinking about it now.

these are the breaks

and this, weak-stomached one, is why you got put on team DT.

For good reason

We had to call an ambulance to take him to the ER. It took four surgeries to reconstruct his face. The poor guy had no chance to react. Think Bryce Florie times 100.

I got my nose broken my freshman year of high school (fighting). My first game back that baseball season I took a fastball of the helmet and a another pitch later in the game up near the head. It wasn’t on purpose as the pitchers on the opposing team were just that wild. It still scared the crap out of me and rattled me for weeks. I was bailing on anything inside. Took a while to recover mentally.

ok, ok,

hard projectiles are dangerous, everyone was just having a laugh

we want to beat the holy fucking fuck out of every other team, but we want them to leave the field whole, except maybe for their self esteem

Funny Pitcher-hit-in-the-head story –
I was sitting in the stands watching some friends of mine playing no-limit high arc slow pitch softball. It was a local league, so I knew lmost everybody on all the teams. My friend Rob comes to the plate and and hits the first pitch right back at the pitcher’s face. The pitcher waves his glove, then his bare hand at the ball, and it hits him square in the forhead! The ball bounced off his head and fleww over my head in the third base stands.
Rob runs to first, calls time and runs to the prostate pitcher lying on the field. The umpire bends over him and asks “Are you OK?”. The pitcher, who had a cleft palate, answers: “wow, dat leally huwts.” Rob hears this and says “Omigod, I’ve maimed him!”
Even the pitcher laughed.

nice

I still remember the time my brother fouled a ball off into the stands and into my moms face

phucking teen-agers

Is your brother Owen Meany?

No metal spikes are allowed. Of course plastic cleats are fine, but no metal spikes.

i’m gonna sharpen my rubber spikes like Ty Cobb

bummer

add cost of plastic shoes

i have some turfs that i’ll wear.

but yeah

if you don’t have any, it just went from a $38 event to a $80 event

I had plastic spikes, but …….

I just remembered by 14 year old nephew has the same shoe size as me, will wear his

My days as the largest one of my kind are numbered, I have lived off the fat of the land as the biggest of my breed, but soon no more

I hope the young buck treats me kindly and lets me eat the second largest piece of meat at the table

Eventually you will have to lock horns and he will have to fuck you up. It is the way of the herd.

And then he will milk you

uncomfortable silence

Or he can just beat you at tennis and settle it that way.

I don’t play those “net” games unless I am at the beach and someone better looking than me is in a bikini

new company slogan: Net Gains, not Net Games.

Good lord, I would surely hope than any bikini wearer at the beach is better looking than you.

coin flip

punchline to speedo joke

“You’re supposed to put the banana in the FRONT.”

I am excited and I haven’t even looked

DT Plays

9AM vs Save The Dodgers at Fenway Park
11AM vs LFP Forum 2 at Dodger Stadium
2PM vs Vin Scully Homeboys 2 at Tigers Stadium

Micah Owings signed a minor league deal with the Padres with an invitation to spring training.

just in case Carlos Quentin gets hurt

As a pitcher or DH?

Rosenthal said major league deal

And we know hr can’ be wrong…
“@Ken_Rosenthal: Source: Owings agreement with #Padres is major-league contract. One year, $1 million. Pending physical. #MLB”

But if so, Padres look slightly less brilliant.

Minor league deal as a pitcher. Major league deal as a hitter. :)

Kershaw's agents

What if they want to be asses and go year-to-year like Lincecum (even with a forthcoming big offer)? Is this a real possibility?

If we don’t offer him the moon and the stars, yep.

Since we low balled the hell out of him in arbitration it’s very likely this will happen.

I’m all for giving him the moon and the stars, but unfortunately, he’s also going to want a lot of money.

We were gonna give you money, but we decided naming a star after you meant a lot more.

As surely as Matt Kemp rises in the east and sets in the west, he’s not going to take that deal.

I’ve listed all the starfish in the ocean into a registry. And for only $35 you can have one named after you or a loved one.

Why does that make them asses? Hitting FA as soon as possible is a pretty tempting carrot for a player. IMO, a pitcher, given that they seem most prone to a debilitating injury, ought to take the money, and Timmah may regret not taking 5/100 (if that was a real offer), but there is a potentially huge reward for taking that risk.

give me what I want or fuck you

MERICA FUCK YEAH /HIPSTERED

Why does that make them asses?

Because I don’t feel like calling them “smart businessmen” if they do this with my favorite player. :)

6/105 should get it done. Just wish they’d make a move and not wait until after the season.

Kershaw hired his agents and he ultimately signs the contract and makes the decision. It’s on him.

What is their history?

Do the Hendricks have record of doing long term deals with young pitchers in arb? If you don’t have this info, that’s fine, just wondering if they have a history of being tough negotiators.

I believe Clemens and Pettitte were Hendricks clients.

Farewell Mike Kelley

Norman Chad pissed off the judge while on jury duty.

Being on a deliberating jury with Norman Chad would either be the best thing ever or the worst thing ever. No in-between.

What you learn from his tweets:

  • he’s on jury duty
  • he’s on a real case
  • he’s a wise-ass
    Everything else is just generic jokes.

His tweets were a flop and the judges are gonna send him up the river.

if this ends with him getting a Pulitzer for writing a jail house rape story for the New Yorker, I will be satisfied for knowing he is in Jury Duty.

Can’t wait to see how you work “Big Slick” into that.

It was inconsiderate of Chad to repeatedly use the term “big blind” to describe the overweight sight-challenged juror next to him.

didn't realize

Magglio Ordonez is a FA

didn’t realize anyone cared

Tommy

I realized no one did

I wanted to give you all a chance to revel in your apathy. REVEL IT UP PHIL!!!!!!

I like this Tommy Blackjack

He has upside and his skills are projectable

Phil on the other hand, you know what you’re gonna get, and it only degrades from here

Sorry Phil

Career earnings $133.4m

http://espn.go.com/mlb/hotstove11/story/_/page/starting9-120119/aging-hitters-remain-unemployed

Be sure to add the $530/week he’s going to get on unemployment.

i thought $450/wk was the max

also

i doubt he’s a US Citizen

That’s the max for regular people, but pro ballplayers get more. I know, I don’t think it’s fair either.

530 if funnier than 450

523 is probably the funniest of all

Baseball players shouldnt get unemployment, its your fault you suck, why should we pay you because you didnt make it?

You wanna change the rules, you call Sacramento and tell them that you don’t think pro ballplayers should get unemployment at all — and the fact that they get unemployment at a regular rate than regular folks is particularly outrageous. Call ’em and tell them that.

gotta have a income cut off

can’t just be ballplayers

but even then, you kick in, you should take out

Well, 1st im going to call them and say we need to legalize this fucking weed already, I mean come on, everyone does it…. just give in and make it legal already, stop wasting our tax payer money on fighting something you will never win…. Then I will throw in the ballplayer part.

“Everyone does it.” The best argument ever.

Worked for alcohol.

Oh demon alcohol,
Sad memories I cannot recall,
Who thought I would say,
Damn it all and blow it all,
Oh demon alcohol,
Memories I cannot recall,
Who thought I would fall
A slave to demon alcohol.
to alcohol

The cause of and solution to all of life’s problems

Alcohol is the anesthesia by which we endure the operation of life.

I actually get this Simpsons reference!

Because their employer already took it out of their paycheck through a federal mandated tax.

My hair is doing the Dilbert boss thing. Time to shave

really needs a photo and a vote

Has anyone here ever eaten

The Cock’s-comb?

Simply curious

If you’re combing it, you’re doing it wrong.

No, Joe, cant say ive ever eaten a Cocks comb before.

I was going to do a whole Green eggs and Ham bit, but just don’t got it in me

eat them braised, worth it to know

from the sound of it you have plenty of Cocks-comb in you.

oh, a Cocks comb is actually a flower?? Well then, there is a chance I have smoked a Cocks comb in that case.

sorry, but this is really your fault
there is a chance I have smoked a Cocks
nope

I heard it was a delicacy in Zembla!

until clayton kershaw saved them with his strikeouts

You’re blowing my cover. Back to exile . . .

anybody here even know what the fuck HJ is talking about besides Humma and BH? Without Googling

it’s the top part of a rooster’s head

Looks like those gloves

yeah its that, or a plant/flower, or a cap worn by court jesters.

It’s that little flap of hair on your head that looks like Dilbert’s boss and makes you want to shave it.

I don’t think I want to even risk googling it…

“Christian Led Down Path To Iniquity By Yahoo! Search For Bush- Trimming Tips” /theonion

Is SBNation giving out virii again?

Not for free. Need to sign up first.

never her

I somehow lost the word “bleeped”

I am waitng

For my apology from Nolander:

“Dearest HJ,
Blood of my blood, soul of my soul. Please forgive me for assuming you would not like the awesome Nike team shoes for the gridiron. I humbly ask for your pardon, as I obviously confused your hatred for the tacky and profane, as a hatred for all things new.

I shan’t be making this error again.

Your brother in blue

Always,
Nolander"

That would be like admitting he was wrong. He can’t do that on the internet.

You don't even like throwbacks

I’m glad to see you can enjoy some fly sneakers

There are no fly sneakers, only kicks.

HJ is going to India to purchase the TBLA softball team uniform. Give him your size so he gets it right.

I thought he was going to go buy us all some hookers. I want a refund.

You must have misunderstood when he said he was going to get some blow

oh, oh, me me!! I want some Indian blow!!

Xeifrank, I need some odds on whether or not Chris is being serious or not.

Ummm, sure. +210 on being serious

Most obscure Dodger jersey/shirt-sey @ the tournament?

It’s too bad I use my old JD Drew and Paul Lo Duca shirts as car wash rags now.

My Mariner Griffy shirt was never used as a rag but it is one holy bugger now.

I should’ve bought a Junior #24 shirt when he re-signed with the M’s for his farewell tour. They don’t make them anymore, and I can’t order a custom shirt because he’s not a current player.

Those rules are ass. I’m sure you could order a Greg Briley or Mike Blowers kit and they aren’t current players.

Softball Tournament Rules

Mike Brown does not know them, he said when he gets them he will email everyone with them.

Mike Brown doesn’t know a lot about offense. Oh wait…

Whats the uniform for this thing

Are we going with certain colors or what. I hope every team shows up wearing all blue, lol

Each player has been assigned a color based on their ability. Yours is pink

The color of champions!

For the cure!

Unless you’re poor, in which case, fuck you!

/i know i know

wow, your clubhouse chemistry is already in the shitter. But I rec’d it.

phil is our carlos zambrano

As I am Austin Gallagher I can’t say anything back to a veteran like phil :(

There’s only one Mr. Pink.

Curious

How many great superbowls are we going to need before the non-sports fan drops the 90’s meme that the Superbowl is usually a boring game?

Infinity

disappointing

I usually keep perspective on most things, but I would be lying if I didn’t say that when I hear someone say that it takes a great deal of self-control to keep from punching them in the throat

Because you said that the score will be 35 – 10 New England

i can only dream!

didn’t

don’t puts words, or anything else for that matter, into my mouth

I mean I hope you didn't

Giants have this one in the bag

people are trying to act like this is a bad super bowl already

people are morans

It’s bad in the sense that a Yankees/Giants world series is bad.

thats not what I'm talking about

Not talking about rivalries or annoying fanbases, people are already assuming this is a boring super bowl because…. well they don’t actually have a good reason they are wankers

It should be a good Super Bowl, which probably means it won’t be. I watched the highlights of the last time they met in the SB—they called the catch the greatest play in SB history. I had forgotten about the QB scramble.

Since the fact that it should be a good game leads one to believe that it won’t be a good game, it probably will be a good game!

It is among the greatest, but I don’t think any one play is the greatest

Some favorites, that I witnessed, off the top of my head

Swan in 1976
Harrison int return against the Cards
Ben to Holmes game winner against the Cards

Get a theme here?

Was it Stallworth who made the catch against the Rams? don’t think it was a touchdown but I remember it being a great catch.

yes

phuck him

kisses

That’s the gold the Rams need to return to.
Rod Perry getting beaten there?

They only get to wear that gold when they are back home.

Swan did too but was knocked out of the game after the hit

You have bad taste…

…in football teams

ok, the elway helicopyer was really cool too

The tackle at the end of that Rams-Titans game stands out.

I deserved that.

After that game there was one of those fake inspirational poster floating around with a picture of that tackle and the caption, “FAILURE – Because sometimes your best still isn’t good enough.”

Well, they sure picked a shitty place to play the phucking game. AMIRITE?

I know all there is to know about the phucking game… I’ve had my share of the phucking game….

So much out of my control

depending on who shows up or not, my next 16 hours will be spent here
\

or here

pray for me

why dont you connect through Hong Kong or something?

seems like you are going the long way

pacific is big

this is the fast way

I have done the math

In boca da lupo

Grazie mille paisano!

I cried today

Saw a totally predictable movie on the plane to EWR and cried openly

50/50

I have to say, enjoyable

I've heard good things

it will be forgotten in the history of cinema but well done, funny, and heartfelt none the less

and that thin lipped girl from “Up in the Air” is really charming, love her

my friend watched it last night and had a great quote

“who would have ever thought a movie about cancer would be mildly depressing!”

I thought it uplifting by the time it tied each bundle into a little package

More Humma jokes

I always think “little package” is a meercat joke.

Does he live or die? If he dies, I don’t want to watch, if he lives I’ll complain at the end of the movie that he didn’t die because they all die.

0/100 is a much shittier title.

spoilers dude

The movie is out now on DVD/Rental. You know the rule once it is pulled from the Theatres and you did not go see it you can’t expect everyone to not discuss it anymore while you wait for it to hit the $1 moviehouse.

asking for the ending seems pretty lame

ok, well, in that case, you really wanna know? because I’ll tell you, I just read it on Wikipedia.

No I don’t unless it will irritate Nolander, then yes, yes I do.

I found two people from texas who think Indy is an unexciting place to host the super bowl

It’s not like they would have had to go there to see the Texans play anyway.

FYI, the name was originally titled “I’m With Cancer”, then “Live With It” before finally “50/50”

I expected “coin flip”

#kit
kitt

It was cool sitting behind you in homeroom. K.I.T.

He becomes a zombie and moves to Yreka.

That would not surprise me, isn’t it a written law that every movie has to have either a zombie, vampire, or werewolf in it somewhere or the suits won’t okay it?

when you pitch it, the title has to have a $ instead of an S and you’ll get it approved.

How else do you think ALIEN$ got made?

So that’s how Arli$$ lasted so long.

Pulled the Wuhl over our eyes.

We enjoyed the show

that only works for sequels

$impon’$ Movie

I was emotionally drained after seeing that movie. So drained.

Had to run from the bartender

was complaining that Arod doesn’t run out ground balls while guys in his Softball league do

I shared “That is the difference between paying to play and being paid to play”

He thought I was supporting him

hell, maybe I was

Difference of 10, 634 plate appearances by the age of 35 and …………

Minicamp

for Dodger pitchers in AZ just finished. Article by Gurnick.

Watson also was excited about some of the other touted arms that could arrive quickly, including Minor League Pitcher of the Year Shawn Tolleson, Allen Webster, Garrett Gould and former first-round Draft picks Zach Lee, Aaron Miller and Chris Reed, as well as the lesser-known youngsters like Scott Barlow, Red Patterson, Jon Michael Redding, Matt McGill and Andres Santiago.
Also, Rubby is throwing at 90 feet now. Presumably flat ground and not too hard.

Wither Withrow or Sanchez?

I know many here will find this a positive post but when Watson fails to mention Angel Sanchez nor Chris Withrow I just hang my head hangdog style.

"other"

The previous paragraph starts:

Among those attending the camp that were recently added to the 40-man roster were Chris Withrow, Michael Antonini, Stephen Fife and Josh Wall.
Sanchez is an interesting omission though.

This dog is adorable, much better than that Hawksworth chick.

Scott Barlow? who?

Derrick Hall

is happy where he is.

"Derrick says he is flattered but has no plans of leaving this great organization," said D-backs spokesman Josh Rawitch.

Boooo
said D-backs spokesman Josh Rawitch.

sheds a tear

Yeah, that bugged me too.

The Diamondbacks now have Gibby, Hall, and Josh.

And Takashi Saito.

Says Rawitch until he returns with Derrick for his own raise.

Until

offer is on the table of course.

Brandon may have oopsed?
89. Andres Santiago, RHP (121.2 IP in HiA in 2011)

Based on the Watson quote from David above.

Not necessarily

I mean i moved him up from #107 last year to #89 this year despite a 5.03 ERA and a 1.63 WHIP…i know he was in the California League and had other good peripherals, but I think #89 was a fair ranking…i mean they had 35 minor league pitchers at this camp so it’s not that special that he was invited, although it’s good news that Watson mentioned him

question for the group

Better shot at making the bigs: Silverio or Castle?

Castle.

I ask

Because he wasn’t mentioned on that Fangraphs article

Castle I mean

I say that because while one was in the Future’s Game, the other was traded for Rafael Furcal and has put up good numbers at an upper level. He also has (theoretical) positional value as someone who we could bring up if all 12 of the middle infielders croak.

Mostly, given the choice, the organization tends to bring someone up midseason who has the lower ceiling as to avoid starting clocks early.

They are the same age

TBLA voters ranked them 13 and 17, respectively, so I’d guess that’s your answer.

Never saw it. Always on. I’ll check it out.

that was for below--slevin
another question, unrelated to the other

Lucky Number Slevin. Is this movie as underrated as I think it is? Some of the best dialogue in the back and forths between the actors.

I didn't see it

but IMDB rating is 7.8/10, which is pretty good, and Rotten Tomatoes is 51%, very mixed, so it depends what group of opinions you are comparing to, I guess.

I had no idea 50/50 was a decent movie (so I’m hearing). The trailer/commercials gave me no desire to see it and made me conclude it was stupid and would suck.

I guess just because you never really hear about it. It had a lot of big name actors in it.

I thought it was dumb.

Well I disagree good sir. :)

I’m still on the fence about 50/50.

25 greatest comebacks on MLBN
  1. 15 is the 4+1 game

Number waht?

15

Dang number symbol

Dave Roberts will figure prominently I fear.

Most prominently it turns out

Number one

hard to argue given the situation

I’m happy we supplied the catalyst to the most devastating and embarrassing failure in Yankee history.

great way to put it

Well done

Nice 1st half in Utah

Clippers looked great when CP3 and Jordan were in the game and like crap when they weren’t. Portland with 37 point 3rd quarter lead over CharlotteLOL.

Down by 44 now, 94-50. No way Portland doubles up their score, right?

Nice win for the Clips

The Clippers should just go ahead and name CP3 the player coach. Great thinking there at the end of the game by him and Billups to foul Utah as to not give them a shot at the tie. Might be a no brainer strategy but you don’t see it employed too often in the heat of the moment.

Simply a great game with great play from a number of players on both teams. I’m sure Clipper Nation will have the stat but I was left wondering the last time two CLippers had 30 points each.

Simply staggering how effective CP3 is in the 4th quarter.

They badly need that backup center and small forward

Someone should follow @SBNationLA on Twitter.

ZBO, FTMFW!

I wrote about the 30/30 thing some more last night, for this morning. And unless my eyes were faulty (a certain possibility) last night was the 10th game in which two Clippers scored 30 points since the 1985-1986 season (as far back as the game data goes on Basketball-Reference).

Ron Harper and Dominique did it thrice.

Who else would have done it? Without clicking on the link, maybe Brand/Maggette?

Once

I should not tweet late at night, I’m not as adept with the basketball reference play index as I am with baseball.

I hear Kaman is available :)

Blake Griffin with a flop. His antics plus his flopping is really starting to change my opinion of him (not that I ever thought he was as great as his hype). I really want to like him too.

little much, his feet were set, Milshap went into he did what anyone would do and drew the foul.

It was a charge. It was also a flop.

The rest of my comment is more about what he has been doing all season.

I understand but in the last three games he seems much more focused again on his game. Best stretch of the year by far from him. His complaint quotient has dropped quite a bit and I thought he played some solid defense tonight against Milshap.

We watch every game here, do you see every game?

Haters gonna hate

I really want to like him too.

That was the joke. He made a thoughtful critique, I just summed it up by calling him a hater.

oh, my bad, lol

Hope this is clear:

Clippers are now 9 – 0 when Chris Paul scores 16 points or more (healthy and non rusty).

I’m guessing the number four power ranking looks good right now that was questioned on Monday morning. They were just early to the table, leaving some of you to catch up. Three straight wins against “quality teams”.

Might (but doubt it) be the 4th best team, but definitely don’t have the merit for the ranking yet.

First win in 17 tries, and thank god we are done with that place for the year.

For Josie

Clippers still lead the league in Road Attendance at 19,403, Lakers drop to 4th and are probably below 19,000 for the first time since the last time Phil was not coaching them.

Pacers are 23rd

people are so worried about being associated with indy they stay away from anything associated with it!

Roy Hibbert not as big a draw as anticipated.

The Lakers

Averaged under 19,000 per game on the road during the four year span 2005-2008. From the records I could see, they averaged over 19,000 for the last 3 seasons and from 2001-2004. In 2002, they averaged 20,102, which is the highest I could find.

one thing you have to give the NBA credit for, they know how to market their stars. Not a NBA fan out there doesn’t know the Clippers put on a great show

all these tough Western teams is going to leave everyone on fumes by the end of the year.

heck, I’m just worried about the road trips the Lakes and Clips are about to go out on

There is a symmetry in that all of the Lakers, Clippers, and Kings have 6 games in their Grammy road trip, and all three trips take exactly 10 days.

the planners are getting really good.

Grammys need to move somewhere else, tirexd of my teams being affected by some dumb award show.

The soon to be renamed Kodak center could use them.

They do it just to fuck with YOU actually, not the teams.

Yeah it sucks my teams always have to burn up so many home games early in a season… I want more home games later in season, not early. I mean, once in a while would be ok, thats how it is, but not every dam season.

Lakers have certainly been affected by it

Any award show that gives Best anything to Steely Dan is a crappy award show in my book.

WRONG

You don’t get to write my book.

Dude. The Cuervo Gold. The fine Columbian? You have to be a communist not to like that song! ;)

San Antonio fans

Rodeo needs to move somewhere else, tired of my teams being affected by some dub award show.

It's also about the last damn industry LA has left including porn

they make a big deal now anytime a movie is made entirely in Los Angeles. Heck, (500) Days of Summer was given the key to the city!

Marvel Studio buying their own studio in So Cal was a big deal a few years ago

the stars all still live here, and the deals are made here, but all the shooting happens in New Mexico, Michigan, Texas, and Canada

WOOO!!!!

NM currently has a cap on the amount of money they give out for the film production tax credit. Heard a bill last night that would exempt TV shows from the cap, but even proponents of the legislation say there will probably never be more than 3 or 4 TV shows filming in NM at any one time.

TV is something that is still dominated by LA.

for the most part, but shows with more special effects, like Once Upon a Time or anything on Syfy, will shoot in Canada to help balance the budget. It’s not ideal, because the writers and cast aren’t in the same room for table reads and the like. Director becomes responsible for any changes

Network TV shows are pretty much all in LA, no?

I know that a lot of cable shows film elsewhere.

the solid majority yes.

It’s pretty fun when you see the Natural History Museum’s rotunda being in “Chicago” (ER) or Washington, DC (Spider-Man) or wherever else

That weird ziggurat building in Outbreak that was in "Colorado"?

Aliso Viejo Orange County

also DC for Bones

yeah, not a show, but Battle LA or whatever it was, wasnt even fimled in LA, so I didnt see it.

I hear they didn’t actually film any of the Batman movies in Gotham City.

oh you fuck, I was drinking coffee : )

What are the Grammys for anyways? Music? TV? Movies? Books?
#SoccerRules

and the Grammy for best hardcore/metal album goes too

Simpsons Christmas Boogie?

You may have once upon a time heard the term “gramophone”? In olden times that’s what they played records on, hence the cutesy name derived from it.

Happy Bill Murray Day, all!

I have the urge to go sculpt some ice.

And rob a Brinks truck.

Don’t drive angry!

I have an urge

To befriend Scarlett Johansen

Is that what the kids are calling it these days?

Almost time to save that kid from the tree

Vicente Padilla going to jail because he only paid child support for nine of his kids.

He's prolific in that way at least

Man, what a pig. I’m officially glad he’s no longer on our team.

9 out of 10 children agree: it’s good to get child support, especially when pops is a big league pitcher.

Nine kids? He needs to work on his control.

10!

The problem is that Vinny Pads only recognizes 9, at least in his accounting ledger.

Does he use

excel to keep track of his offspring or SQL?

The problem

Padilla only has Microsoft Works on his laptop.

would rec if i could

He appears to be well-versed in using his Powerpoint.

hiyo!

Click here to go to next slide amirite

Word

Sounds like he has other options on his laptop.

He shoots indiscriminately.

That post noted Padilla had his passport revoked in Nicaragua. Maybe between Belisario and Padilla, there can only be one.

Future secure job fields in 21st Century: MLB Passport Liaison

I log on this morning to see the 71-80 countdown again? It’s like I’m reliving yesterday.

I got you, babe

What a great day to wake up to.

Glad you feel that way. Yesterday I was all, “I’m offically the luckiest dude on the planet.” Today I’m not feeling it. I think lunch today will be critical.

I’ve got NE 7 , Giants 0 in my pool

Nice being on the 7 line, 7 – 8, 7-0, 7-5

and 0 line 0-8, 0-7,

7-0 is great.

Someone should go through every Super Bowl using your payout method (every non-extra-point score change pays) and see what the most common number combos are.

It seems like 7-0 would be like Kentucky Avenue in Monopoly, the most common (at least I think Kentucky is). But maybe not.

7-3 would probably be good. 17-13 seems like a very common score.

Shocked that I can’t find it by simple Googling.

Here is an article for all NFL games.

Nice

So, at least at the end of quarters, the most common scores were…

7-0
3-0

a bit of a drop

0-0
7-3
7-4
7-7

0 and 7 seem like winners.
I would think 5 would be the worst 5, 15, 25, “35”, 45
8 wouldn’t likely hit until you got to 28
9 would probably be next worse as 19, 29, 39 aren’t too common.

I think 0,0 would be the best, followed by some combination of 0 and 7.

and
0,7
0,3
0,0
3,7
it is. Thanks for the link.

3 seems better than 7.

Everything you wanted to know about this year’s NBA All-Star uniforms, on Uni Watch.

LA likely gets four starters announced today at 4pm on TNT

Cue Josie in 3…

Uniform talk is the Josie Signal™, like John From Cincinnati is the Mintxcore Signal®.

so here's what I'm thinking

yes, divorced for anything else and seen in a vacuum, that’s a nice looking all star jersey. But the NBA is taking a page from the NFL here and it’s a page I don’t like. Both the Super Bowl and the NBA All Star game used to have these great region specific logos. The MLB All Star Game still does. But the NFL and NBA are now turning out these generic looking things.

It’s better for NFL’s brand, there’s a consistent mark that says Super Bowl. Same here with the NBA, but it doesn’t scream ORLANDO. So great NBA All Star game unis, but if this is the direction they’re going, why not just have it in Vegas every year.

? The East jersey looks very much like a Magic jersey.

in that they’re both a shade of blue?

Starting to come together, Pepper...

the view from the press box at the Marlins’ new stadium, from beat writer Juan Rodriguez. Looks pretty cool:

eh, I prefer a view to a double decked outfield. Always have, always will.

Your eye just gets drawn to the dinger machine.

actually, it’s the big video screen that gets me. In the event of tie, the teams should just play MLB The Show on it

Looks like a nativity scene from afar

Can’t see how anyone would not like the Dinger machine, baseball is made for crazy stuff happening after a home run as the runner is rounding the bases.

Sliding into beer, fireworks, trains moving, fountains, giant apples, what else is there?

foghorns, mike and vanessa booty shaking

swimming pools, fake rocks, . . .

the fake rocks have a geyser thing, right, for home runs? also you’re missing the point

I don't think so

not that I can recall at least, but the fireworks happen behind it

apparently there is a geyeser

but I can’t ever remember it going off

That’s because everyone on Anaheim is Maicer Izturis. Pujols will probably change things a bit.

TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMBO

can’t do much else OTHER then hit dingers

There was a point?

arlington stadium dogpiles
Those are fun

But they have been replaced for me by the dude who caught the Tampa Bay home run and threw it back in one motion in the ALDS last year. Damn that was great.

Right, no thinking all action

He was inspired by the time Rosinbagger caught the home run and threw a bullet to home plate before the runner crossed.

I’m for it, no worse than an exploding scoreboard in my book

I hate that for the next batter or two after a HR at Angel Stadium, it’s all smoky.

fixed
I hate that for the next batter or two after a HR at Angel Stadium
depends on the night

usually its not an issue but sometimes its really bad

I always kind of liked the two-tiered thing for highlights. It’s more fun when a ball that was really crushed lands in the upper deck than 15 rows deep or whatever.

I always hoped I would get to see the Dodgers play a World Series in Tiger Stadium.

in DS i guess you have those tin roofs though. occasionally someone will knock it onto those

If Stanton can hit some opposite field HRs

They will be 2nd deck!

Matt Kemp has his eye on that little patch of lawn

I miss Tiger Stadium

The only stadium where it seemed like it was easier to hit one into the second deck than the first.

Why is the field covered in snow?

:)

Tribute to Miami in the 80s.

wait what? They are gonn a have a cocaine night?? See ya’ll in Miami!!!!

I think a NON-cocaine night

Would be more a change of pace

there will be some fun ricochets off that beam

down the RF Line. i hope someone catches one in the nuts.

So i’ll ask again, there isnt going to be any fish tank in this Miami stadium?? I could of sworn I heard about a fish tank, but maybe I got mixed up.

within the backstop

They still doing that?

i never heard that they were not

PETA were not down with it. But who ever stopped doing anything because PETA didn’t like it?

vegans

i don’t know a single vegan that supports PETA

You can support PETA and not support every thing they stand for, the same for any organization.

my comment wasn’t very serious. but really, i know a lot of people that are extremely interested in animal rights and all of them think PETA is either a joke or not actually good for animal rights. i feel like PETA is more of an entry-level organization

I’m guessing the 750,000 members worldwide

A bunch of people who used to wear fur.

twas a (half) joke

yeah the backstop, that what I thought… that is cool.

they were just going to use a windows screensaver, but they were afraid of the blue screen of death

should've gone Linux

Note: I know nothing of Linux

LF makes me think of Brewers stadium

Jerry Crasnick wrote a nice piece about the relationship between agents and baseball players, around Zack Greinke’s current lack of representation.

If Crasnick comes off as sympathetic to agents in the article, it’s understandable, as he wrote a book about a pair of agents called “License to Deal.”

i love baseball and i love baseball stories, but that sounds like one shitty book.

I read it; it was a good book IMO

There are no strict rules here in the comments

Other than no politics, of course.

But I would strongly suggest against writing anything negative about Phil Mickelson and/or his wife.

PHIL MICKELSON IS NOT A VERY GOOD GOLFER

Been nice knowing you.

I had a run.

some kind of a run, that's for sure

Probably too much Del Taco.

His wife is a real bogey, if you know what I mean.

she’s an enemy plane?

I can’t bring myself to say the logical response to this.

oh. i get it.

They’ll always have Paris.

Damn, this will be an interesting case to watch.

On the one hand HAHAHAHAHA

On the other hand I have zero faith that this won’t be used as a great excuse for a more locked down Internet and Mickelson is totally gonna win.

He looks like Carol Burnett

Sorry, comedy legend Carol Burnett.

This might arouse interest

NBC will have a local high school run the Patriots and Giants’ plays inside Lucas Oil Stadium so they can practice camera angles for the big night.

That sounds like a completely logical things for NBC to do, and an insanely awesome experience for those high school kids.

Now they just need to get the kids on microphone so we can hear “Black 59 razor, razor, razor, razor”

All of the kids will go home after the game and pretend they’re having sex with Gisele.

Luckily, the high school kids are all the same size as Wes Welker.

Let them play, let them play!

nice

I guess I’d do a couple dry runs too, if I had to program for 40 cameras:

They’ve returned three times this year to refine the placement of NBC’s 40 cameras—seven more than a normal Sunday night broadcast—29 trucks and trailers, and 60 miles of camera and microphone cable.

Not that this is a license to post a shload of pics here

But I just found out this morning, from Ahmad Rashad of all people (on radio), that Mark Rypien’s daughter is continuing the family legacy by quarterbacking the Seattle Mist in Joey’s favorite football league.

If her uniform is Rypien, just think of the ratings bonanza.

Jim Tressel has a job. U. of Akron’s “VP of Strategic Engagement,” making ~200K/yr. I don’t understand this at all.

Those sweater vests don’t buy themselves.

the fuck is that

sounds like a fundraiser to me… is he just cooling his heels and waiting for a plum nfl/college job to open?

In 2006 Akron lost 3 million on its football team so any student should egg him on the street.

and people make fun of UCI for not having a football team
Wait...

I thought that was Kris Humphries’ job?

Dodger Stadium's 50th anniversary has a logo and a sponsor

"We are proud to partner with the Dodgers as the presenting sponsor of Dodger Stadium’s 50th Anniversary," said State Farm Senior Vice President Tom Conley. "As one of the oldest ball parks still in use, Dodger Stadium, like State Farm, has a longstanding tradition of being there in the community. It is a crown jewel of Major League Baseball, and a treasured Southern California landmark. We are pleased to be a part of the season-long celebration of this milestone anniversary."
"The 50th anniversary of Dodger Stadium is a rare historical benchmark that we are extremely excited to celebrate with our fans," said Dodgers Chief Revenue Office Michael Young. "State Farm, a brand that embraces community and family, is the perfect partner in presenting this season-long event that pays tribute to one of the most iconic and beloved ballparks in all of sports."
What's more iconic?

The color palette of the seats or the wavy pavilion shades with the palm trees?

The palm trees, since the color of the tiers was changed twice.

If we all had personal sponsors here they'd be??

Eric Stephen brought to you by Google?
Xeifrank brought to you by Harrah’s Hotel & Casino?

Josie brought to you by IFC, “Always On, Slightly Off”

Just a guess here about an answer from some of our regulars

Ivdown brought to you by PetSmart

It’s hard to think of a greater clash (color and mood) between the event’s icon and the sponsor’s icon than that.

Nats are trying to trade John Lannan for some reason.

“We need to trade John Lannan to pay Edwin Jackson” is a big step down from “We could totally afford Prince Fielder”

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