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2012 NL West Offseason Review: Los Angeles Dodgers

After a thorough review of the offseason moves of the other four teams in the National League West, we turn our investigation inward, looking at our very own Los Angeles Dodgers.

In case you missed the rest of the NL West, here are offseason reviews of Arizona, San Francisco, Colorado, and San Diego.

Five Questions

Los Angeles Dodgers
2011 Record: 82-79
Division Finish:
Third place, 11½ GB
2012 Opening Day: Apr 5 at Petco Park in San Diego
2012 Home Opener: Apr 10 vs. Pittsburgh
Other SB Nation coverage: SB Nation Los Angeles

1) Did the season-ending ACL injury to Victor Martinez of the Detroit Tigers cost the Dodgers Prince Fielder?

Yes.

2) If the Dodgers had all this money to sign Prince Fielder, shouldn't they have at least made a formal offer to Hiroki Kuroda, who signed for one year, $10 million with the New York Yankees?

Yes.

3) Will Clayton Kershaw in 2012 become the second Dodgers pitcher ever to win back-to-back Cy Young Awards, joining Sandy Koufax?

Yes.

4) Will Dee Gordon steal at least 60 bases for the Dodgers in 2012?

Yes.

5) Did you mail in this final question and answer session of the week?

Yes.

Dodgers Trades, Etc. This Winter
Team Traded Acquired
Rockies Jamie Hoffmann of (claimed by Colorado)
Orioles Dana Eveland lhp Jarret Martin lhp
Tyler Henson of

Eveland was arbitration eligible and not in the plans for the Dodgers' starting rotation in 2012, so he was shipped off to Baltimore for two players ranked by our own Brandon Lennox as the No. 59 and No. 77 prospects in the Dodgers' system.

Dodgers Contracts Signed This Winter
Pos Player Type Total Contract 2012 Salary
OF Matt Kemp Arb 8-year, $160m $10,000,000
SP Clayton Kershaw Arb 2-year, $19m $6,000,000
SP Aaron Harang FA 2-year, $12m + option $3,000,000
OF Andre Ethier Arb 1-year, $10.95m $10,950,000
SP Chris Capuano FA 2-year, $10m + option $3,000,000
2B Mark Ellis FA 2-year, $8.75m + option $2,500,000
1B James Loney Arb 1-year, $6.375m $6,375,000
IF/OF Jerry Hairston, Jr. FA 2-year, $6m $2,250,000
OF/1B Juan Rivera FA 1-year, $4.5m + option $4,000,000
OF Tony Gwynn, Jr. Arb 2-year, $2m $850,000
RP Todd Coffey FA 1-year, $1.3m + option $1,000,000
RP Mike MacDougal FA 1-year, $1m + option $650,000
C Matt Treanor FA 1-year, $1m + option $850,000
IF Adam Kennedy FA 1-year, $800k $800,000

Matt Kemp signed the largest contract in National League history. That feels good just saying that out loud.

Star-divide

Dodgers Players Lost
Pos Player New Team
SP Hiroki Kuroda Yankees
IF Jamey Carroll Twins
C Rod Barajas Pirates
3B Casey Blake Rockies
RP Jonathan Broxton Royals
RP Hong-Chih Kuo Mariners
P Vicente Padilla Red Sox*
*Minor league deal

Here's my guess as to the Dodgers' 25-man roster:

2012 Dodgers Under Contract
Pos Player 2012 Age* 2012 Salary
C A.J. Ellis 31 team control
1B James Loney 28 $6,375,000
2B Mark Ellis 35 $2,500,000
3B Juan Uribe 33 $8,000,000
SS Dee Gordon 24 team control
LF Juan Rivera 33 $4,000,000
CF Matt Kemp 27 $10,000,000
RF Andre Ethier 30 $10,950,000
OF Tony Gwynn, Jr. 29 $850,000
IF/OF Jerry Hairston, Jr. 36 $2,250,000
IF Adam Kennedy 36 $800,000
3B/1B Josh Fields 29 $500,000^
C Matt Treanor 36 $850,000
SP Clayton Kershaw 24 $6,000,000
SP Chad Billingsley 27 $9,000,000
SP Ted Lilly 36 $12,000,000
SP Chris Capuano 33 $3,000,000
SP Aaron Harang 34 $3,000,000
CL Javy Guerra 26 team control
RHP Kenley Jansen 24 team control
RHP Matt Guerrier 33 $4,750,000
RHP Todd Coffey 31 $1,000,000
RHP Mike MacDougal 35 $650,000
LHP Scott Elbert 26 team control
RHP Blake Hawksworth 29 team control
Totals (19 players)
$86,475,000
*Age as of June 30, 2012
^Minor league deal; estimated

I do think Jerry Sands has a legitimate chance to make the opening day roster, and if he does it would be as the primary left fielder, as the club wants him to play every day. However, for that same reason I believe Sands will ultimately begin the season in Triple A Albuquerque unless he absolutely dominates during spring training.

The Dodgers do need power of the bench, which is why I picked Fields to make the opening day roster, but I could see Trent Oeltjen ending up with that final bench spot too. But the players haven't even reported to spring training yet; there will be plenty of time for this battle to play itself out.

Barring injury, there is only one bullpen spot open, with the out-of-options Blake Hawksworth fighting it out with Josh Lindblom and several non-roster invitees.

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Comments

Keith Law on Joc

Outfielder Joc Pederson has gotten significantly stronger since high school and projects to hit for average and power between his excellent bat speed and sound swing. He’s fast enough for center but the bat should profile in a corner if he has to move.

hopefully his second go around with the Loons

Goes better than the first. I think it will

Zen master says

we’ll see

center?

kinda blocked isnt he? good problem to have I guess. bless u matt.

Hopefully Pederson and Baldwin can bring a 2nd/3rd baseman when we need it.

“could play center” is a statement of skill, not of future availability. Kemp will be a corner OF by the end of that contract, probably by 2015 when we sign McCutchen (☺) but Kemp being here that long does mean that all those fancy CF prospects we have have to be able to hit like corner OF guys to be able to make it.

or

we could trade them

or they do nothing as they move up the ladder and it all becomes moot. Counting on Pioneer league hitters seems so premature.

but then after they move up, traded.

I agree, Kemp’s body type might require a move to the corners sooner than later

yeah, it’s not a question of if, but when.

You mean that “CF” isn’t stamped on their foreheads? That’s a relief.

just sayin

Then we should sign the Cuban guy with our leftover Fielder money.

He said he was out of the bidding :)

I lol'd

At the 5 questions

Matt Kemp: Pee Wee Herman got nothin on me

And you don’t want Pee Wee Herman to get anything on you. Especially in a theater.

I’m reduced to being my own straight man

Your up early for the West Coast

Work emails start at 6:30

Just another day at the office

Sorry. I was otherwise engaged. I’ll try to be your Bud Abbott next time.

Is this a dick joke or an exploding watermelon joke?

Pee Wee

was arrested for masturbating in an adult theater a few years back

Q: What is Paul Rubin's favorite teams?

A: The Expos and the Yanks…………………………..

Matt Kemp: Dodger Stadium is my playhouse.

When do pitchers and catchers report?

Tuesday, February 21 to Camelback

Saw a tweet about the first Cardinals truck of baseball gear going down to Florida.

This makes me excited.

Makes me wish

they did spring training in Arizona

The Dodgers are the most rated team

in all of baseball.

Pirates talking to the Yankees about trading for AJ Burnett.

don't help the yankees, pirates!

All it will take is McCutcheon

Go Dodgers.
Dodgers top prospects in review, on MLB.com

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120205&content_id=26582626&vkey=news_la&c_id=la&partnerId=rss_la

I’m getting more and more excited about Joc, I have to say…

And Juan Rodriguez gets a mention, too:

“He’s got sleeper written all over him,” he said. “We tightened up his delivery and he’s throwing 100 mph, and it’s swing-and-miss 100. It’s not put-it-in-play 100. He’s not as tall as Kenley Jansen, but he’s a big body guy. Kenley has pure arm swing; this guy is just really loose.”

Granted this is mostly Watson’s POV so grain of salt, etc. But still, cool to hear.

smells like…victory.

I think we are all excited about Scrap Metal.

is that his new nickname?

Has been his nickname here since we acquired him.

weird, I don't remember noticing it before.

Okay, then. Better than “Mr.” (Bob Newhart Show reference) or “Wolfgang” (German director reference). Or “The Pride of Palo Alto” as Vin Scully will one day say.

Btw, looky what I found:
https://twitter.com/youngjoc650

Looks like Gary, Eric and MSTI are already following him

Hm, is Gary following this guy too: https://twitter.com/okoyea23

I’m a visionary.

Not enough to follow your boy OK though! ;)

Because only Phil actually uses it?

Joc just has to prove he can hit in a full season league.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/prospects/watch/y2012/#list=lad

Cool, my fav Sanchez makes number six

Pitching Pitching Pitching

Eight of the first nine are pitchers
Three starters for sure in Lee, Webster, Sanchez
Four maybes in Eovaldi, Reed, Withrow, Martin
One Reliever for sure in Tolleson

As much as I wish we had more legit position prospects, it sure is nice to have a good crop of interesting arms.

For Furcal and Trayvon we got our 11 – 13th prospects based on MLB.

Love the Alex Santana photo

Ineed, Fed and Castle are intriguing.

If Fed’s defense is really that good AND if his bat is actually progressing . . .

I’m still looking forward to a Fed/Ellis combo this summer. Defense should be above average and offense hopefully won’t be terrible.

In FidEls We Trust

You mean

Sempre FidElis!

Both those trades are looking good right now. Trayvon it appears we traded high on, and Castle is at least a possibility.

Trayvon will still be a top Five prospect in the Mariner system

No way.

They have a good system and he won’t even sniff the top ten.

HQ has him 4th a head of Franklin. They are bullish then most but not top 10 seems quite a stretch. Of course that was before Montero. Maybe 7th / 8th. Easy top 10.

They can win the most Baseball HQ Championships Won title. Trayvon’s going nowhere

I checked Fangraphs and Baseball America.

Seems like the four maybes (perhaps not Martin) will be MLB relievers at worst.

I’ve always found Reed and Tolleson interesting.

Cause Reed has been around so long

Always

Well okay

Actually since I started paying attention to our prospects more, which was this last year.

I still feel really strongly that Chris Reed has the stuff and mechanics to become a great major league pitcher. He may at some point transition back into relief, but it won’t be because he has to be a reliever.

I agree with you completely.

Overrated/Underated

Overrated: Ethan Martin
Underrated: Silverio

Ethan Martin is pretty well rated.

I don’t buy that he’s the best reliever in the system. And that’s his realistic role.

“great stuff, can’t get through the lineup twice” seems pretty accurate.

I don’t know what he’s rated these days, but I’m very bearish

Martin is rated pretty low by most.

MLB.com’s prospect lists always suck.

That's really cool

Especially since Trayvon can’t not strike out in the majors, lol.

In case there was any concern about how average Dodger fans feel about our system, in the poll, 60% say ZLee is the top prospect, 35% say Eovaldi and only 1% picked Webby.

I always thought the TBLA motto was “we don’t give a fuck what the average Dodger fan thinks”

Hence the disclaimer.

the average Dodger fan thinks xfip is the new Honda compact car

Everybody knows it’s a Hyundai!

I hope Xeifrank never asks if the Clippers are the best team in the West.

Don’t think I will, for a while at least.

Even if you ever think it, don’t write it. Why don’t you try jinxing the Thunder this week?

They did just lose to the Kings

He won’t

Not unless they deserve to be called so. :)

Jacks N Joe – freakin good pancakes

Are they Shoeless?

Gary

About COD: Cool, I’ve only seen you play black ops. I’d actually be cool playing that too actually. I think im getting back into a COD mood rather than black ops.

cod

its funny how everyone HATED treyarch games before black ops and now it seems like alot of the people I know prefer black ops to mw3 by a wide margin..

I'm conflicted

I liked Black OPS, but knew MW2 and MW were both better, but now MW3 didn’t show me a ton (except single player was AMAZING) with their online.

mw mp

I never fell for it because it always seemed like it was rich get richer and was a very hard to have fun in matches were dudes were going like 75-1 and dropping nukes on everyone. Black ops seemed way more balanced.

I didn't even enjoy the couple levels I played of Black Ops, but I never played competetive multiplayer

the series died with MW2 in my mind.

As in

You loved that one the most or you thought that one killed the series?

I still liked the single player, but the multiplayer was such a dissapointment

I just moved on. Didn’t even bother with Black Ops multiplayer. MW1 is in my top 2 for this entire generation though, so its a hard standard to live up to. Still want to play MW3 for single player, but I’m waiting till it goes on sale in a year or so(screw you activision). I would be more interested if they wheren’t just shoving the same game out there every darn year.

I get you. I’m not getting the next COD most likely, i’ve only played 17 hours of MW3, when I have 10 days on MW2, 2 days on black ops, and 8 days on COD 4.

As far as the single player though, if there are any blockbusters left you should try renting it just for that; the single player on MW3 was top 3 of any game I’ve ever played.

I started the series on PC

and I will end it on PC. If I can get a game on PC I choose it over consoles every time. Its as much about future compatibility then anything else.

I got Black Ops and MW3 for Christmas, and I don’t think I’ve even taken MW3 out of the packaging.

im a bf3 fan

its so much more fun if you ask me. way more team oriented. I was 1st place on a game I played last night and only went 5-5 in terms of k/d.

Oh absolutely

I love Battlefield 3, such a fun game. If I could take the game play from Modern Warfare 3 and the stuff you can do and the maps from Battlefield 3 i’d be in game heaven.

Yeah, its all about winning in battlefield, not K/D ratio, though I still want a good one, haha. Im the type of guy who will try and destroy tanks and junk even though I’ll get killed 3 times while doing it.

BF is more fun when you’re playing with friends because its much moer team based. COD is always fun even if you’re playing on your own

Yeah I know what you mean

My cousin and I play and it’s way more fun when it’s him and I rather than just me, or because the servers are just as messed up as CODs when it’s me VS him.

Question

If Fields has a serious shot at making the team, does he also have a legitimate shot at unseating Uribe at 3b?

I doubt it, I’d think Hairston would play 3rd if Uribe gets hurt. I don’t think Fields has a shot at making the team. He’s depth insurance. He might make the team but only if injuries take place. JMO

We’re going to need a bigger bat. /dreyfuss

btw

Finally got Eric’s Murray St./present joke over the sports page this morning. Time release humor ftw.

A joke aneurysm if you will

AA rotation

Anyone have ideas on who will be in that rotation? I’d be more interested to see if anyone thinks one of the LoA starters (Lee/Gould/Sanchez) would get a shot early on at AA rather than HiA.

You answered this question yesterday! S’matter, you forgot what you wrote? :)

I'm no authority on this, I want to see what people with the same or more knowledge of it think :)

It’s the internet: everyone’s an authority!

A Sports Authority

More like everyone’s a Dick.

I don’t see any of the Loons skipping the Cal League this year.
Doubt they would make Withrow repeat AA again but they might.
For sure in AA:
Redding
Webster
Martin
MaGill
Aaron Miller

is a rough guess

I completely forgot about Miller

Yesterday I had:

Withrow
Webster
E Martin (if you think none of the LoA guys will make it)
Redding
Magill

So you think Withrow goes to AAA?

He’s been in AA 2 1/2 years I guess he could go for three.

Sounds like they have Lee ticketed for AA at some point, wouldn’t surprised if he is there by June if he starts off well.

I would hope that Lee, Gould, and Sanchez push the issue by having success in the Cal League

Happy Birthday Brandon!

Maybe I can buy you a beer during ST

thanks!

saw the dates you are going. since I can’t go the weekend of the 17th maybe i’ll go the weekend before…although I’m not sure when the minor league games start…probably not that early

they started the 4th weekend of march last year. with minor leaguers reporting about the 25th

wow I forgot how late it was that they reported

i know some of the better prospects will be there earlier, but there probably won’t be much going on in terms of the minor league side then if I came the weekend of March 10th

No, they started around the 4th weekend of February last year – Feb. 26 – (you must have meant that) with major league games starting March 31. Everything this year seems is a good week or more later, wit ST games starting March 5 (for Dodgers) and MLB games April 5.

he asked about the minor leaguers

For reference

Last year, Dodgers pitchers and catchers reported to big league camp at Camelback Ranch on February 16 and the first P&C workout was February 17.

The reporting date for minor league pitchers and catchers at CBR was March 3, with their first workout on March 5.

First major league spring training game was February 26, and the first minor league game was March 18.

Thanks, I thought I had it a little late in my head.

Spring Training starts tomorrow! (Not for the Dodgers, but still… BASEBALL!)

Who starts it off again?

Mariners pitchers and catchers are reporting tomorrow, because they open their regular season early against the A’s in Japan. The A’s, however, are not reporting earlier; their P&Cs are reporting next Saturday, along with 8 other teams.

Too bad Matsui isn’t with Oakland anymore [at least not yet]. Could’ve been Ichiro/Matsui love fest.

I went to Sports Chalet to look at bats. It has been 10 years since I looked at new bats. Damn they be pretty and expensive. Did not know they were even making slow pitch wood bats. I longingly picked up a couple but $70 for a bat that could break just couldn’t be justified.

The good metal bats these days are like $250.

Yep, we talked about it yesterday. 199 – 250 for the names I was looking at.

I am going to wear eye black bryce harper style

weather report went from sunny to 20% chance of rain.

there was a 40% chance on Tuesday

I'm sure this is a joke, but omg don't!

There’s a guy in one of my softball leagues who does that, he’s the biggest douche around. We play his team Sunday, we better kick their asses

definitely not a joke

it’s definitely going to happen

You must play at Wilson Park?

Then you gotta send it in and get it rolled!

but the wood bats were so much more aesthetically pleasing

sport chaleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

they take you to the limit, I am told

your credit limit

ha ha

The first one opened in La Cresenta, just north of Glendale when I lived there. I’m always intrigued by the Mom and Pops who expand successfully and those who do not.

like Der Weinerschnitzel

Nah, opening a fast food place is nothing compared to full blown sporting good store with Scuba Pool. That takes some capital.

and some brass ones

Ooh

Wienerschnitzel are tasty.

anything mentioning them gets a rec from me

I could go for some at lunch today, mmmm

ewww?

You people on your high horses

Eat in the slums with me one day! lol

my idea of slums is radically different than yours

it's not about slums

it’s about a smaller portion of what you eat being what you ordered and a larger percentage being preservatives and synthetics.

Well I've had them in Austria.

Where they were come up with.

he’s not talking about flying to Austria.

I know. I just haven’t had Wienerschnitzel here.

Wiener schnitzel is flattened breaded veal or pork. Der Wienerschnitzel serves weird hot dogs. You are comparing apples to Apple computers.

like lemmy said

I don’t wanna live forever

I presume when someone says ewww they think it's gross and don't like how it tastes

not really for the fat content.

nah, the chili dogs tastes fucking amazing.

Their corn dogs are soooooo good
And this jingle will be in my head the rest of the day...
dashers dashers

Dick

will the small wonder theme song get that out of your head?

I was too young for that show. I remember the reruns, but I don’t know the theme song off the top of my head

I was younger then you and I watched it

I still am, but I was

She’s fantastic.
Made of plastic…

Vicki and Evie from Out of this World were early crushes of mine.

If you could stop time you could really do some depraved shit to people.

I don’t know how Zack Morris didn’t abuse his time-stopping abilities.

Out of this World was a great show.

Evie…

for the best insurance rates online, go to the general and save some time

no way!

Great minds think alike, so what the hell am I coming up with the same thing as you right now??

for the best car insurance rates in town call 1800 general now!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSfGjbLHK3w

the worst

is that goddamn kars for kids jingle they play on 710. so terrible.

1-8-7-7 Kars for Kids... K-A-R-S Kars for Kids

I hate the 8-6-6… sixty-six faster… you got the green light because of how annoying it is, but the absolute dregs is… South Coast Toyoooooootaaaaaa because of how cheaply it was produced. If the singers meant to be off-key, then the joke’s on me.

nick can't say-no

Or the dude who is having fake conversations with customers on his personal cell and then he’s like “but im not done with what im saying” and the commericial ends. Soooo dumb.

Congratulations

That is the worst. They play it up here on 680 too.

I wouldn’t have gotten a lemon?

This day is becoming more and more frustrating with every jingle.

7-1-4 Tickets, 7-1-4 Tickets….

It’s the biggest no brainer in the history of mankind.

“We’ll beat anyone’s advertised price or your mattress is freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee” is stupid on so many levels.

Right.

“Man, that price is too good, I simply can’t match it. Guess I have to give it to you for free then”

Also, mattress manufacturers call the same mattress by different names for different retailers. So nobody actually sells the same model of mattresses that Sit n Sleep does.

For the last 10 years

“But I can guarantee this, rates are going up soon”

Adee dooooooooo

keyes keyes keyes, keyes on van nuys

keyes keyes keyes, keyes on van---Topanga!
let your new life begin....

call 1800 get slim

Classic

I sang the “Got it at Galpin” jingle at G, but he didn’t get it because he doesn’t listen to Power

the more I hear about that guy the more it makes sense why I like him so much

Power? C’mon….

My dad has an ASA or whatever approved bat

I’ll try and remember to bring it.

Phil, any idea on the carpooling? Do you want to have me you and Dave carpool?

phil

make bobby sit in the back of the miata

Aw man

The driver and passenger seats are so damn small to begin with!

You can’t put a lunch box in the back of a Miata! Even the trunk is so small you have to put soft sided luggage in it.

If no one needs David then it would be easier for him to just drive to the field from his house. I’ll take you but you have to be at my house by 06:30. I’ll email you the address very easy to find.

Just don’t crash in to Phil’s truck parked on the street.

Nice

I was just at Sports Chalet a couple days ago to get a fungo. Can’t be hitting pregame with a regular bat

I thought Sports Chalet was dying

closed a few stores and cancelled a big development in La Canada

The one in Torrance is doing fine. It’s right across the street from a Sports Authority too

Remember Chick's in El Segundo?

I liked it so much better before it changed to Dick’s. The baseball section at Chick’s was 100X better than it is now at Dick’s.

Who the hell names their store “Dick’s” in the 21st century?

That’s too far for me to go for a sporting good store, I never went there when it was Chick’s. Although I’ve been in there once or twice since it has been Dick’s when I’ve been driving down Sepulveda

Sport Chalet has a pretty good glove selection. Cal Pro has nice gloves too.

Oshman’s used to be my favorite.

They did that in Pasadena

I so wanted to make a Chicks with Dicks joke

Profar is a dream prospect

link

MiLB.com: You had more walks that strikeouts last season, which has impressed a lot of people, especially considering your age (the youngest player in the South Atlantic League) and experience. How have you worked to became that type of patient hitter?

Profar: That’s something that I always wanted to be to help my team. I was the leadoff hitter, and as the leadoff man, you have to be on base. So you just take pitches and look for something you can drive or hit or something. They throw you balls, you take it, you walk or get a hit-by-pitch. As a leadoff man, I just have to take my pitches and see what happens.

He seems like Hanley with a better attitude.

So, he’s jamey carroll

If Jamey Carroll was hittin dingers as one of the youngest players in the league.

wasn’t mentioned in the quote, i did no research.

You’ll be hearing the name a lot. He’s just below Harper and Trout.

i’m all for other teams developing superstars. what’s good for the game is good for my enjoyment of the game.

He's better than Machado?

Up for debate, but yes.

Did better in A ball and he’s 7 months younger.

I remember when this dude was in the Little League World Series. He was one of the few tat you could legitimately see playing in the bigs. Crazy talented kid.

Lots of internet rumors

that the new North Korean leader was killed in Beijing after going on a local Beijing radio station demanding that MLB let him buy the Dodgers.

The Orioles should send their scouts in immediately.

who do you think took him down?

(whistles)

I don't ... get it?

The first half of his sentence is true. A rumor popped up that Kim Jong Un had been assassinated in Beijing. But the second half is a xeifrank joke. I believe Macciello is the butt of this joke.

I...see...

Crazy (about the first). He was probably just buying a thousand bootleg DVDs and video games in China.

Jerry West could be in the Dodgers front office?

I’m assuming this has been discussed already?

Jerry West running the Dodgers makes no sense to me.

I hadn’t heard that.

Sure, running a baseball team’s not difficult at all. Can’t miss idea.

Would be a product of the Grizzlies' owner buying the team

Here’s the link.

Brilliant. Michael Heisley who instructed his general manager to draft Hasheem Thabeet even though the GM wanted to draft Tyreke Evans.

I feel confident in saying you would hate Heisley way more than you hated Frank.

Probably. I don’t know why he would even want to buy the Dodgers. He doesn’t even want to own the Grizzlies.

apples and oranges

Right. He’s rich but doesn’t want to spend on the team (I’ll admit, his past two years suggest that’s changing) and he meddles in basketball affairs he should leave to the GM (like the Thabeet debacle.) And he’s been trying to sell the Grizzlies for years.

And he's on record as saying local guys should own teams if possible

which makes sense for a Minnesota guy who owns a Memphis team to want to be an LA team.

It’s incredibly hard.

Nobody has gone for the layup yet? OK, guess I’ll step up.

TWSS.

There is a new sponsored post up (below this one)

http://www.truebluela.com/2012/2/10/2789787/ultimate-sports-social-media-job-contest

If you are so inclined to read it, great. We can keep the comments going in here though (unless you have something relevant to the sponsored post you would like to add in that comments section)

I would like to sell/change my screen name to the highest bidder. DoritoGuy has a nice ring to it.

Kemp

How about Dave Parker 1978 as a comp for peak ceiling?

Kemp has more power. And more speed. I don’t think he’ll be able to keep his average that high. I’d gladly sacrifice some BA numbers for OBP though.

Parker stole a lot of bases for a big man. 20 a year about.

and less cocaine

If Kemp can uncork a few of those throws (like the 1979 All-Star Game), hooooo boy.

How about Winfield 1979 as a comp.

Too much patience.

Robin Yount is really the only guy I can find that hit like Kemp without walking too much.

What is up with Boston/Yankees showing fiscal restraint this offseason? Very strange.

they seem to have had players locked up long term

at all of the big money FA positions?

they both needed pitching

and didn’t go for the big names it seems like

Yankees re-signed CC

that was a unique situation

they didn’t really add any payroll for next year IIRC, just added more years to his current deal.

They did have room to add Kuroda.

Sad face.

:(

Capang’d

El Capang

I’ll do the thinnin around here BabaNeddie

They have the chance to get below the luxury tax so they’re gonna take it.

That makes sense. I couldn’t believe when I read Scutaro trade was a salary dump.

What was stranger to me was dealing Lowrie for a relief pitcher and then dumping Scutaro for a relief pitcher. NED was so far a head of the curve.

red sox owner

Paying a ton of money to his soccer team

/Heyman

Red Sox owner

Trying to finance No No Nanatte.

/1918’d

Cot’s shows the Yankees having 20 players under contract in 2012 for roughly $207 million, including 11 different players making at least $10 million this year.

without looking

Jeets
Tex
CC
Burnett
Kuroda
Swisher?
Soriano
Rivera
Cano
Arod

I forgot Granderson

I would pay Tex, Cano, Granderson, and ARod more then 10 Million in 2012.

As in, “I wouldn’t pay the others?”

If so, CC, Swisher and Jeter are also worth that money.

I’m a big fan of Cano. I love his swing. I used to compare his swing with Utley’s; it’s really more Bonds.

Yankees do have a new owner. Young Steinbrenner may not be the free spender Old Steinbrenner was.

Yeah, I fully expected Darvish to be a Yankee.

Mets GM Sandy Alderson is tweeting bad jokes and being praised for it by the New York Times.

Makes sense, since he originally signed Ol Hoss radbourn

I hate that Matt Kemp photo with the hate of a thousand suns

I prefer this one myself

yes

Or this one

anything that resembles a baseball uniform and not a Dr. DooLittlle impersonation

Yes. I wish it would stop appearing here.

I don't

I am a fan of the bow tie

The bow tie is OK. It’s the silly suit that is 3 sizes too small which makes him look like he’s outfitted like a 14 year old. The bow tie accentuates that and makes him look even sillier, but would be fine if the suit fit.

Anyone want to enlighten me on the DOJ interpretation related to on-line gambling? Been hearing on-line poker could make a return to the US along with other means of gambling.

Some believe

that the current status is that there is an opening for states to conduct lotteries online. Others see it as an opening for states to finance and operate their own online poker but that is yet undetermined. One thing is sure, there is no opening for legal online gambling on sports, that remains the one form specifically outlawed under current U.S. law (though DOJ maintains that the Wire Act prohibits all forms of online gambling).

Yeah, I heard that there is an opening for a multi-state compact like the Powerball or Megamillions lotteries, only with online poker.

Are/Were you an online poker player?

No, strictly curious

Good answer. You never know who works for the IRS here.

BTW

Minor leaguers will probably report by the March 7th and 11th and games will start the week of the 14th.

J.R. Smith’s Chinese team has been mathematically eliminated from the postseason. He can sign a deal shortly after…. Please JR Smith, will you be my Laker Valentine??

Shortly after Feb 15th, but hopefully he lets us know where he is signing before then. If he can, I dont know.

Do you post on SS&R too?

Where is everyone today?

Im not sure, but this morning I couldnt sign in because OpenID server was down it said. So some of you almost lucked out haha…. But I didnt give up, kept trying every so often, and it finally let me in.

Practicing

Just played catch at lunch. Both shoulders hurt, I have the velocity of an 90 year old Moyer and my glove arm can’t make any sudden moves. Dejection, I’m more Charlie Brown then I have ever been.

but thanks to my wife I will look good, or as good as a short legged, palish, balding meercat can look.

How many Manny wigs do you think we see tomorrow?

Forgot about mine.

Busy wrapping stuff up on my last day of work.

what giddy motherfucker you must be right now

It’s pretty awesome.

Nothing better

than a last day on the job when you are going to a better one

What's the exit plan?

“F you, F you, F you, you’re cool, F you, F you, and F you. PEACE!”

trying to figure out why I did a stupid thing I did months ago

the life of a software engineer

I thought not having to fix problems you created is why software engineers switched jobs so often

the economy has been hard on all of us

Just got back from the driving range on my lunch break.

Don’t jack up your softball swing. haha.

Seriously, right!

Playing hardball, softball, and golf makes me terrible at all three. However, I’ve noticed that I hit better at the driving range after going to the batting cages first. I’ll see if works in reverse when I hit up the cages again tonight. It was a freaking zoo last night with all the youth baseball leagues starting up.

I never got that. They’re three totally different swings. Don’t compare the three in your head, and they won’t get crosswired

but...

You’re a natural ballplayer! They’re three different swings, but my brain is only strong enough to process one during any prolonged period of time. It’s a total user-fail on my part.

So if you say to yourself, why did that Royals announcer slip in the word "halo" during that highlght
Victor Rojas
Congrats to Steve Physioc & Rex Hudler for landing in Royals broadcast booth (w Ryan LeFebvre). Both good guys.

Please to note, he did not call them good announcers.

glass houses

cannons etc

I still can’t believe we gave Mark Ellis 2 years $8.75 mil. Judged againt that, the Gwynn deal was highway robbery.

And, yes, I know it was all a scam to get a lower 2012 salary in exchange for a higher 2013 payout. Still bothers me.

Even in emails you people zing me. Just wait till tomorrow when i’m your hero!

Awesome. Most extreme home runs of 2011.

Such as, hit off the fastest pitch, hit off the slowest pitch, most inside off the plate, etc.

trumbo with a vladdy esque golf shot
ok vladdy hitting the most grooved pitch is just weird

I would expect him to take there

ha

Didn’t he hit one on a bounce once?

when he was on the expos I think he hit a pitch that bounced in front of the plate

for a ground rule double. I think.

I'm pretty sure this is bumpkis

I may make this my new signature

hah

and I didn’t even spell bupkis right

You didn't use it right either

It’s win-win

He used it cromulently.

I thought he used it rather cavalierly.

so much ado about bupkis
slow day

I’ve been looking at the Pirates’ rotation.

Charlie Morton
James McDonald
Kevin Correia
Jeff Karstens
Erik Bedard

If Burnett is added, does it even matter?

The Padres and Rockies can feel much better about their rotations.

Well ……………

Bedard could be better then anything we have after Kershaw. Bedard has certainly shown in the past he can do it when healthy.

Would all rather have Capang at a bizillion or James for nothing?

Did you already forget that Morton is Halladay Light:)

On the other side Tallion and Cole be legit prospects as these place holders do their gig.

And they say engineers can’t be taught anything new

A base hit.

thanks

That’s one of my favorite baseball plays ever. I love his reaction too.

Tim Kirkjian on Ichiro:

In Japan, he singled on a pitch that bounced before it got to the plate — the Japanese actually practice hitting a bouncing ball.

Two uniquely talented baseball players. Plus plus arms and hit skills. Quite an unlikely comp.

my favorite of all-time

is Manny cutting off Damon’s throw. It’s like the Law of Diminishing Returns doesn’t apply when I watch that clip over and over again. The play is ridiculous in and of itself, but Manny exerted more effort on that blooper than he ever did on any play in the field in his entire career.

You mean this?

Stupid work filter. I’ll have to enjoy this at home.

I am shocked that this is the best GIF available.

Come on, internet. Get on this.

THANKS A MILLION!!!!!
Berra

is supposed to have done that too

This is great

My favorite is the Corey Patterson one. There’s a reason he never made it.

So good

Don’t swing don’t swing don’t swing nice cut!

This made me chuckle

Poor Erubiel Durazo.

When I think of people with really short arms

Hal Sutton usually comes to mind first.

Spoiler
The organisation’s standard “no animals were harmed” statement was removed from the credits of both episodes.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-16979834

I am very busy

but had to pop in and say “PLAY BALL!”

so damn excited

Bryce Harper

was supposed to go to USC. Never knew this.

So was Reggie Bush

Was there ever a serious possibility that he wouldn’t turn pro, though?

Nope, just a hypothetical.

Considering he dropped out of high school, got his GED and enrolled in a JC in order to better prepare him for the pro-game, I’m surprised he even identified a 4 year college at all.

perhaps that was the school he would have transfered to after his JC experience

He only did the JC thing because he was too young to be drafted. He would have done that if rules allowed it.

BTW

I am guessing the USC he was going to go to was the one in South Carolina.

I’m surprised USC couldn’t match the Nationals’ signing bonus.

Quick straw poll, setting up the TBLA fantasy league

do people prefer head to head or rotisserie. I’m leaning toward rotisserie

also, live draft or autodraft? I’ve never commissioned a league before

it has to be live

or it’s Memorex

I prefer points to roto, but both are better than H2H. And live drafts are much more fun.

I also vote for live draft.

While I won't be participating

1) I prefer head to head. It’s less fair but more fun.
2) Autodraft blows. Live drafts are the way to go.

I figured most people would have this as their second league, roto would make it okay to miss days here and there

I’m not participating either but I agree with this completely. Also, H2H often keeps people paying attention to the league more than roto does.

I've only done head to head but I enjoyed it

I also enjoy head to head with live draft, and would be interested in playing.

Head to head I think

also live draft

I believe we’ve reached consensus. Now just need a date for the draft

Would a saturday or sunday be best?

As the commisioner of my Yahoo baseball and football leagues, my advice on picking the draft time is a Wednesday or Thursday night, give people plenty of notice (so they can plan around it) and don’t change the draft time unless it’s overwhelmingly clear the day doesn’t work. Otherwise, you’ll just drive yourself crazy.

yes rotisserie

with sabr’y stats

SABR stats just aren’t nearly as fun in fantasy

We have BA/OBP/SLG in mine. The addition of OBP and SLG are the only outside the box categories though. No FIP or any of that shit.

net steals, whip

i think work well.

i used holds last year too even though holds is kinda bogus when it comes to smart stats

WHIP is a criteria as well. Interestingly, it’s been there since my first league. I think it’s a standard in Yahoo Leagues.

Net steals is a good idea. I’ll look into that.

whip is def standard
couldn't we just do away with BA?

I mean this is a TBLA league

i dont like head to head because its too much effort…

with rotisserie, you just set your lineup and starters and you can just check how your stats are doing every couple weeks or so.

*shrug*

never done anything other then head to head. Less work sounds like a good thing.

I set my lineup at the beginning of the week for head to head anyway. I don’t like to “tinker” so I ride out the week and don’t overreact to a hot game by a bench guy. I really only need to check it on Sundays and Wednesdays (to insure the starter pitchers are right.)

Rotisserie

5×5
Live draft.
-
Too many categories thins out the points

Hooray?
Dylan Hernandez @dylanohernandez
The #Dodgers outrighted IF Russ Mitchell to triple-A Albuquerque.

He’s our 50th-best prospect after all!

Need good restaurants

in Sherman Oaks vicinity for a birthday dinner. Any Recs?

Tiramisu on Woodman and Ventura.

Olivia on Van Nuys - starts pricey but is awesome

Gyukaku on Van Nuys and Moorpark if you’re into grilling meat, but it can be very pricey
Marmalade Cafe on Ventura just West of Kester
La Frite on Ventura, also West of Kester

La Frite was shockingly good for something on Kitchen Nightmares.

back in the day, La Frite was super cool

I dated a girl who had been to Paris when I hadn’t been out of my bedroom yet. I thought was so much more sophisticated than me, she took me there and I thought she was the coolest. That feeling? It wore off

maramalade cafe

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

just go to cheesecake factory and kill yourself afterwards

If I had to go to a place

that is inside the same complex as my work, I would kill myself

La Fondue Bourguignonne can be fun.

Fondue would be a hoot, but it looks lie it’s closed according to Yelp

Well, balls. I went there for my birthday a couple years back and had a blast.

Looks like it's going to be

Flemings in Woodland Hills. A little chainy for my taste but the steaks are supposed to be decent

chainy for sure, but good quality and they know how to cook meat

If you have any drinkers, warn them about the Martinis – they be deadly

oh, I have drinkers

Thanks. I may end up driving everyone home

Decent wine list too, at least the one in Newport

yep

all the big fruit, high alcohol Californians that go well with the red meats

Good wines, but nothing too quirky or interesting, is what i remember

But really good wines

How did Sherman Oaks end up being all the way out in Woodland Hills?

It's all the same to me

Got people coming from Pasadena, Redondo and Newbury Park

booo

atta girl – you give it to him, too lazy to care I say! He is too damn lazy to care

As if I had a choice in the matter

don’t fuck with my rant Marty – I gotta send this energy somewhere or I’ll explode

Am I crazy for thinking I can just buy pizza dough at fresh and easy

slap it in a cast iron pot, cook it and call it deep dish?

Don’t forget to use your Friends card!

If you have a little time I’d recommend this recipe from Lou Malnati’s in Chicago. I’ve eaten there several times and also made it at home and both are quite tastey.

http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/follow-that-food/chicago-style-pizza-recipe/index.html

bookmarked for next time

I plan on making it tonight so I don’t have time to let the dough do its thing if I where to make it

A friend

has pizza flown in from Malnati’s whenever a Chicago team is in the superbowl or basketball finals

I prefer Gino’s East and Pizzeria Uno/Due, but Lou’s was closer to where I used to stay and wasn’t as crowded. And Linenkuegel on tap!

I don't like deep-dish

so Lou’s thinner crust is one of my favorites.

Whatever happened to Jacopos in Beverly Hills? Used to go there as a kid.

someone drove their car through the window last I saw

I used to go there with a friend all the time

Did you use the door, or was it you going through the window?

I was a gentleman, I help the door for my friend

someone flashed the HJ signal?

yeah, pretty much it – if you got a skillet or a baking dish that is probably easier to get out. Use a lasagna pan for a square one

make sure the pan is well oiled

What gives deep dish it’s crisp texture is that the surface of the dough actually fries against the hot sides and bottom of the pan

thanks

I know that it’ll puff up something fierce as long as I don’t dock it

for a deep dish finger tips or fork will work

When is the NL West prediction thread coming?

I predict that whatever predictions are made today will be wrong by September.

Giants
Rockies
DBacks
Dodgers
Padres

i got

Dbax – 92-70
Giants – 84-78
Dodgers- 81-81
Padres – 75-87
Rockies – 66-96

Fire Jim Tracy

definitely after this year!

“Should I be fired? I can’t answer that. Will I be fired? Probably.”

even if the predictions are right

they’ll be for the wrong reasons

and the right reasons will only yield wrong results

Dodgers
D-backs
Giants
Rockies
Padres
:D

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what time is the fantasy draft?

READ THE POST

I didn’t have a time, he’s right. I had date only

damnit!

well then I apologize

mitch mustain..

anyone see this?

http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/7561727/former-usc-trojans-qb-mitch-mustain-signs-chicago-white-sox

Mustain, 23, hasn’t pitched since high school and was prepared to report to the Georgia Force of the Arena Football League, but in a tryout with the White Sox, his fastball cracked 90 mph on the radar gun.

“I haven’t played in eight years, which, my age, it’s going to be a little bit harder to get back into this,” Mustain said, according to 5News in Fayetteville, Ark. "As time goes I figured this would be my one shot at it, and why not? I’m going to take this shot. I’m going to give it everything I have and see where it goes.
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LETS PLAY NOW

I CANNOT WAIT

HEY I SAID I WANNA PLAY NOW

I GOT TOURNAMENT ON SATURDAY AND BASEBALL ON SUNDAY – FREAKING OUT AT HOW LUCKY I AM

I WANNA PLAY NOW TOO! I WANNA STEAL ALL THE BASES!

I don’t want to play. My eyes hurt. :(

Off to go get my first pair of glasses :( :( :(

that’s what studying does to ya, it’s horribad : (

IF I AM LUCKY ENOUGH TO JACK ONE

KUO BATFLIP TRIBUTE, PLEASE LORD LEMME HAVE ONE

If I bust out a Robbie Keane cartwheel to bang bang will I get….fuck it, I’m doing it!

I hope just to see live bodies by the time I roll up

during your third game in 5 hours

and I hope we leave behind a mound of broken ones behind the TBLA juggernaut

TBLA plans to win the war of attrition.

Like playing Russia in the winter!

/seems like we have done this before

a new audience is what we crave and what we shall have

That said we probably forfeit the 08:00 game because Bobby got lost trying to connect with David while Joe and Phil twiddled thumbs

we will have cars, we will not wait too long

Full disclosure: I went to K&L today, I might be a bit “winey” in the AM

Giants inviting ex-prospect/murderer Angel Villona to Spring Training. In case you want a non territorial reason to hate the Giants.

all charges where dropped

but this caught my eye

Former Giant Juan Uribe was implicated in a shooting in 2006 while a member of the Chicago White Sox, but charges were not filed and Uribe claimed that he was the victim of an extortion plot.

Anyone else see Simmons' F-bomb in his article?
I really believe that. And also, I fucking hate the Lakers.

It was Grantland, but isn’t ESPN supposed to be a family-friendly website?

ESPN is supposed to be a lot of things that it’s not.

True...

but an F-bomb getting through the editorial process is pretty egregious.

grantland is not ESPN

it touches on mature subject matter

I don’t know why you’d even fucking care

I’m sure they’re aware it’s there and that Simmons knows he has the green light.

DeAndre Jordan does not appear to be functioning properly on this road trip. I blame Mr. Martin

Need suggestions for the most annoying Pandora station possible. Thanks.

Comedy Icons

as they keep insisting on playing Dane Cook

MOST annoying?

Chumbawumba by way of Metric by way of The Distillers?

by way of Avil Lavigne and Creed and Nickelback

Chumbawumba

I like it.

That or I can just play Panama on repeat.

Pop Quiz

the oldest arena currently in use by the NBA is…

Madison Square Garden?
Close

it is the now named Oracle Arena that the Warriors play in.

Oakland Alameda County Arena opened in 1966, the current MSG opened in 1968. The Great Western Forum opened in 1967, for comparison’s sake.

I don’t believe the “Great Western” forum opened in that year. However, I do believe that was the first corporate sponsorship of an arena when it happened (in 1988 if you believe Wikipedia).

But it is not the longest continuous home arena

The Warriors played in some other places during the last 45 years too. The Knicks have been playing in that version of the Garden during that whole run.

Didn’t they have to play someplace else when they rebuilt it?

they played some home games at the San Diego Arena, and for the last rebuild they played in San Jose

I was talking about the Garden…don’t think they played home games in San Diego. :)

Oh yeah…that place is as old as dirt

what time is the fantasy draft?

March 1st, 8pm

thanks

thanks

it is done
March

first is pretty early for a fantasy draft.

Of course, i won’t be playing so I will just let it go.

Definitive minor league spring training news

from the Dodgers:

Pitchers and catchers report on March 3 and the first workout is March 5. All others report on March 9 and the first workout is March 11. Minor league early camp begins on February 27.

Are you reporting with the catchers or all others?

I could show up Monday, February 20, but I don’t think much will be going on. I’ll be there when p&c’s report on Feb 21.

MLS doing

spring training this month. Andrew Luck has been here all week, getting ready for the combine. Tall drink of water that guy

sss

…but watching lakers basketball is painful. dudes can’t score to save their lives.

granted I don’t watch much nba since moving in with my gf..

terrible so far

hopefully they start heating up

Clippers however are balling out of control

Todd Coffey will wear number 60 for the Dodgers

Ronald Belisario, now number 51. Poor Broxton.

is Broxton still on the team?

he’s a Royal

good for him!

i'm curious if he does well

if the Royals might pull the trigger on a Soria trade.

unless they’re in it

Lakers luckily

only down by 8 at the half

Fisher needs to join the coaching staff and give it up already, he is D O N E, DONE!

Hes not done but he shouldn't be playing as much as they play him

he can still get hot with shooting and can still play D but he is old and erratic to be sure

Even when Fish was young, he was below average on defense

At this point in time, he’s by far the worst pick and roll defender in the league, and one of the worst in the past 20 years. He’s patented the Flail My Arms On The High Screen So The Refs Call Illegal Screen move, but they’re not blowing their whistles anymore and the opposing PG is now ten feet past Fish.

Turn in

your Laker card at the door, Fisher gets to go on his terms not anyone else.

Look, I love Fisher as much as anyone and appreciate what he has done for this franchise.I dont talk shit about him and rag on him like alot of other Laker fans do now. That said, pro sports is a what have you done for me lately business, and winning is the business.

There is no point to this discussion

he isn’t retiring and the Lakers still have his salary on the books so they can’t cut him.

As UD said above, his playing time would go down if they had someone better to play but they don’t.

Be logical.

sorry man, just frustrated.

See, there FIsh goes…. gotta let players know when they’re fuckin up, then they respond. He knows.

But im mostly just frustrated and tired of seeing Fisher get burned on a daily basis. When his shot isnt falling, it just adds to my frustration, cuz he sure as hell aint stopping anybody. I agree with Craig he probably has enough to come of the bench, so Lakers need to make that a reality atleast, which I do believe they will. Hopefully sooner then later.

Derek Fisher

never had quickness as an asset and back when he had his feet and leg problems 7-8 years ago, it got worst. The Lakers have always relied on team defense to combat quick outside guards.

The good thing is that generally, over a 7 game series, small quick guards alone have not shown that they can win a playoff series. Certainly they are beneficial but you can exploit them in other areas.

Over the regular season, it becomes more difficult because of the timing of games.

Don’t buy this argument. Time and again athletes have proven unable to judge when they are no longer physically capable of contributing the way they did in the past.

Whose arguing this part

he’s signed a three year deal in 2010 so he is still on the books until the end of next season. He isn’t going to go now or anytime soon.

JEremy Lin is great fun to watch, can't help to admire even against my Lakers

but tell me, that play near the end, where he almost fell and made a move to lay it up, that the announcers were drooling over, he traveled so obviously I was kind of stunned no one said anything. I guess they don’t want to criticize him much right now. Anyway, other than that, pretty great stuff from him.

Lakers still in this game but seems like Matt Barnes is about the only go playing with intensity.

Not sure what I think about the clippers’ “stand around and stare at the ball handler” offensive scheme

You mean that “winning” scheme. Paul with another bailout of an awful offensive game for everyone.

Now that I know we won I shall hit play on the DVR with a plate full of Orange Chicken

Williams and Foye

were 10 for 29. I guess you have to keep Mo on the bench but Chris Paul and Blake will have to have some big games the rest of this season.

Evans was the difference tonight

25 dollar softball bat?

yes please

Bobby will be bringing a couple of my daughter’s bats for the team to use. Unless you already bought it.

Target? When everyone was gagging on the price tags earlier, I wanted to bring up the cheap ass bats at Target, but was afraid they might be crap quality

better then Wal Mart bats

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