Catching up with some other spring training notes from the first day of camp at Camelback Ranch...
Matt Kemp said even if the Baseball Writers Association of America would re-vote for the 2011 National League Most Valuable Player if Ryan Braun's suspension gets upheld, Kemp wouldn't want to win the award that way. I wrote a little bit more about that at SB Nation LA.
Kemp's session also provided two of the funniest moments of day one, as he set a goal of 50 home runs and 50 stolen bases for himself for 2012. When asked if that goal was a little high, Kemp playfully chided Tony Jackson of ESPN LA for predicting Kemp would not reach his 40/40 goal in 2011. "I was right," Jackson replied, to laughter.
The other moment of levity came when it was suggested that Kemp, with his new $160 million contract, could join one of the ownership groups vying for the Dodgers. When told that the purchase price for the franchise could be as high as $2 billion, Kemp was shocked and quipped, "I thought I was rich."
Tony Gwynn Jr. is also in camp early (position players report next Monday, February 27) and had great news to report regarding his father. Tony Gwynn Sr. underwent a 14-hour surgery to remove a cancerous tumor from his cheek last week, and is home now recovering. Gwynn Jr. said his father is in good spirits, and that he plans to return to managing the San Diego State baseball team in a month, though Gwynn the younger noted a more realistic timetable might be two months.
Jerry Sands doesn't necessarily need to win an everyday spot in the lineup to make the opening day roster, but Mattingly said he needs to have a certain number of plate appearances to justify a spot on the big league roster, as the club wants Sands to play nearly every day. While Mattingly shied away from committing to a plan of sitting Andre Ethier and Loney against southpaws, the manager said that figuring out a way to get Sands enough at-bats will be one of his projects in camp.
Don Mattingly said Dee Gordon was his leadoff man and Kemp would bat third, but that the rest of the lineup is not yet fully decided. Mattingly said Ethier would likely hit cleanup against right-handed pitchers and that Juan Rivera could hit cleanup against lefties. Mattingly said Mark Ellis will get the first shot at batting second,though Mattingly wouldn't mind James Loney or even Sands hitting in the second spot in the lineup.
Mattingly would have been fine with a platoon of A.J. Ellis and Rod Barajas at catcher for 2012, but the plan changed when Barajas signed with the Pittsburgh Pirates. Mattingly said Ellis "has always been an on-base guy" and that he was the type of player he would never want to sell short given his work ethic. Mattingly compared Ellis to Jamey Carroll in that "you don't appreciate him until you see him every day." Ellis will be the everyday catcher, as Mattingly described Matt Treanor's role as that of a true backup, more like Brad Ausmus in 2009-2010.
The backup shortstop will be Jerry Hairston Jr., as Mattingly wants to keep Juan Uribe at third base. Should Dee Gordon go down for any extended period of time, the club would turn to Justin Sellers.
Steve Yeager was at Dodgers camp today as well. Though he won't travel with the team during the season, longtime Dodgers catcher will work with L.A. backstops this season while the team is at home.
Ron Cey is also expected to show up to Camelback Ranch at some point this spring to provide instruction during camp.
Pitchers throwing bullpen sessions on Wednesday and every other day through Sunday: Chad Billingsley, Clayton Kershaw, Jamey Wright, Fernando Nieve, Chris Withrow, Josh Lindblom, Michael Antonini, Ryan Tucker, Ronald Belisario, Scott Rice, Wil Ledezma, Angel Guzman, Jose Ascanio, and Shane Lindsay. The other 16 healthy pitchers in camp (not counting Rubby De La Rosa and Blake Hawksworth) will throw bullpens on Thursday, Saturday, and Monday. Ted Lilly was originally scheduled in the first group but will be out a few days as his wife gave birth to a baby girl on Tuesday, Nora Grace Lilly.
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This is great stuff man
Greatest spring ever for TBLA
silverwidow - February 21, 2012
I would like to see Dee come into camp and work with Davey Lopes on stealing bases.
fbihop - February 21, 2012
Dee is in camp.
David Young - February 21, 2012
Yep
Since last week or so. He was not in the clubhouse this morning when we were there, but he was here walking around later.
I don’t think there were any other position players here besides Kemp, Gwynn, and Dee today, but I could be wrong.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
I think
that I could get behind the Scrappy Dee nickname I saw suggested on Twitter, but who then is Scooby Dee? I mean, Rod Barajas is gone and all.

David Young - February 21, 2012
I will always love that
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
Thanks, Whitney Houston.
kinbote - February 21, 2012
Jamey Wright's heart has been ripped out by that comment.
Taylor Maricle - February 21, 2012
Don’t bait the master.
kinbote - February 21, 2012
I like SpeeDee.
kinbote - February 21, 2012
See,
I want to say Kemp.
But i somehow feel like that’s racist.
Taylor Maricle - February 21, 2012
The Thin Man
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
I miss all those conversations about Dee’s frame. (Did BA really really project him to hit for some power? They did that with Hu too.)
kinbote - February 21, 2012
Dee has Myrna Loy power
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
DeeLite
kinbote - February 21, 2012
Don Mattingly today: “I think he’s going to hit, period.”
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
Amazing. We could seriously have another Pierre on our hands. Good hit tool, insane speed. I don’t ever expect the extra-base power to come; plate discipline will decide if he’s good or great.
kinbote - February 21, 2012
Except Dee could be a plus-fielding SS, and while Pierre had speed, Dee dusts him.
David Young - February 21, 2012
Hu did have that stretch in 2007
When he was a September callup and hit 2 homeruns
Michael White - February 21, 2012
I will never forget when BA actually projected Hu to hit for “average” power.
kinbote - February 21, 2012
Joe Sheehan told the world he was going to be awesome.
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
He also said Konerko was done two years ago.
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
predicting the weather is tough enough, calling baseball players is equal parts skill and luck
Hollywood Joe - February 21, 2012
I saw one in person!
David Young - February 21, 2012
i did too
crushed the hell out of it
delias man - February 21, 2012
Asta la vista, baby.
underdog - February 21, 2012
How about Rivera at 1B and Sands in LF and wave goodbye to Loney.
vadodger - February 21, 2012
There are several reasons why you shouldn’t do that.
regfairfield - February 21, 2012
Mainly because 2012 is going Lonsanity
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
Jeremy Lin is on the cover of SI for the second straight week this week. Amasian.
I am fully on board for “Lonsanity” by the way.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
Future headlines:
“Loney’s 3 run bomb sinks Giants”
“Loney’s Bases Loaded Double Downs DBacks”
“Jim Loney Slugs Third Straight Game Winning Home Run”
latenite - February 21, 2012
Dodgers, Loney, Agree to Six Year Extension
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
No way, im all for going all in on Loney for this season, not that we have much of a choice, but this is it for him. Besides, incase we do make playoffs, he dominates in the postseason. Loney is the kinda guy I can see being a WS MVP.
uschris0304 - February 21, 2012
You hit one grand slam to break a 20 year old post season nightmare and people think you are the next ………..
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
haha well, it is the biggest postseason HR since Kirk Gibson IMO…. Plus look at his playoff stats… All this talk about Kemp, Ethier, etc, but Loney was the one lighting shit up….
uschris0304 - February 21, 2012
Loney is like the guy that sleeps everyday in class, yet gets the best test scores of the class… Its obvious the regular season just isnt challenging enough for him. But postseason, my boy Loney comes to play.
uschris0304 - February 21, 2012
Yea, that’s it
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
Harper better live up to the hype
Right now he’s got a pretty huge chip on his shoulder. Incredible talent but no doubt an asshole about it.
silverwidow - February 21, 2012
Poor Padres and As:
@sdutPosner:
fbihop - February 21, 2012
That is kind of BS
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
Agreed
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
I bet Eric could hit all 15 camps if he wanted, let alone the massive ESPN Machine.
fbihop - February 21, 2012
I plan on literally hitting all 10 Cactus League stadiums.
Probably will hit the Cubs complex the hardest since they denied my credential request for when the Dodgers are there.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
Fuck the Cubs.
David Young - February 21, 2012
I have a month to work on them
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
How many are they going to in Fla?
vadodger - February 21, 2012
11
Josie Becker - February 21, 2012
They could swing by the Padre camp
since they are going to be at Peoria anyway for the Seattle Mariners.
Also, the A’s ST facility is both conveniently located in Phoenix but also rather dull.
bhsportsguy - February 21, 2012
much like the team
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
They have the Manny buzz in camp this year though.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
Hey, home come you wrestling peeps didnt mention Shaq is gonna wrestle at Wrestlemania?? vs the Big Show…. I wonder what Shaq’s intro song will be?
uschris0304 - February 21, 2012
Didn’t hear about this until now
silverwidow - February 21, 2012
I think Kobe and DHoward are going to go in the ring mid match and double team Shaq.
uschris0304 - February 21, 2012
i heard it was only rumors
no concrete evidence
Ivdown - February 21, 2012
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gameon/post/2012/02/shaquille-oneal-to-wrestle-wrestlemania-28/1
uschris0304 - February 21, 2012
because shaq is stupid
nolander - February 21, 2012
World Series MVP started in 1955
Only two first baseman have ever won the award.
They are?
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
First name that popped in my head was Don Clendenon.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
Number one
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
Sorry, Donn
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
1979
Wilver Stargell?
bhsportsguy - February 21, 2012
Yes, kind of amazing since 55 the best offensive position has only two MVP’s.
On another note the list of MVP’s kind of reads like the HOF with a few outliers here and there.
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
In the photo gallery is that what is called a “cowlick” on Kershaws head?
Eric you going old school with pencil and paper? Tech up man, show those people how bloggers do it.
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
I say this as someone who has that problem without expensive haircuts, dear lord yes.
regfairfield - February 21, 2012
Also recording Kershaw, and taking notes. It’s much easier to transcribe later with notes.
I also have no idea how Tony Jackson reads what he writes. A doctor couldn’t decipher his shorthand.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
at some point could you ask Yeager if he has worked with FedEx and what he thinks of his defense? TIA
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
Yes, I will. I only saw him briefly today as he was in civilian clothes holding a cup of coffee in the clubhouse, and for only a few minutes at that. He had a short talk with Griff & Wallach, then bolted.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
“He’s got promise but still has lots of things to learn”
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
he was holding in his hand the same chance Griff and Wallach will get at MLB.
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
Eric's first question to Yeager will be
Can you repeat the sign you gave to Willie Mays Hayes in the bottom of the 9th inning?
bhsportsguy - February 21, 2012
You’re damn right I’m asking him about Major League.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
I am going to also ask permission if I can call him “Temp” from now on.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
crazy, Yaeger owns the Jersey Mikes in Granada Hills near my house… Guess he has 2 jobs now.
uschris0304 - February 21, 2012
The one behind the KFC?
David Young - February 21, 2012
yeah
http://www.jerseymikes.com/news/read.php?id=310
uschris0304 - February 21, 2012
Sounds like maybe his wife is more the hands on owner…. Maybe a good question to soften Yaeger up would be to ask how his wife is doing with the shop. or not.
uschris0304 - February 21, 2012
i dont think eric needs your help
delias man - February 21, 2012
was just joking bro, chill…. im sure he doesnt.
uschris0304 - February 21, 2012
“First things first, how’s the sandwich business treating you?”
Michael White - February 21, 2012
“hey steveie. can I can you steveie? how about a kickdown on some jersey mikes, huh?”
delias man - February 21, 2012
If you get Yeager alone, get him talking about the practical jokes back in Vero
he will make you pee your pants
Hollywood Joe - February 21, 2012
It would be nice if you dont chew gum during your recordings like the Vin Scully is My Homeboy dude, but whatever.
uschris0304 - February 21, 2012
My hair however: lustrous.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
Clayton trying to look like his hero
David Young - February 21, 2012
who is the shoulder surgery candidate in photo #3?
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
someone on MLBN
Referred to Dee as “Flash 2.0”
Thoughts?
Tommy Blackjack - February 21, 2012 via iPhone app
He’s a USB drive
silverwidow - February 21, 2012
That is pretty good.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
USB
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
Apparently
that person is not a heavy Apple product consumer
bhsportsguy - February 21, 2012
ha ha
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
I missed the fact that Mike Cameron retired.
I used to think we would be lucky if Matt Kemp had a career as good as Cameron’s. Now I’m wondering if any CF not named Dimaggio, Mantle, Snider, Mays, Griffy are out of his reach
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
If Kemp lives up to his 50/50 promise I wouldn’t consider any of those guys out of his reach.
regfairfield - February 21, 2012
If Kemp lives upto his promise I will
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
if Kemp goes 50/50 he’s a hall of famer
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
Right now, Matt Kemp has a career 125 OPS+. Jim Edmonds’ is 131. If Matt Kemp’s career turns out to be Edmonds with speed, I think I’ll be happy.
Edmonds for the ages that are the same as Kemp’s eight-year contract: .296 / .394 / .558 / .952, 143 OPS+
David Young - February 21, 2012
boner
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
Eric, man, pace yourself
At this rate you will be collapsing from exhaustion when I get out there in 3 1/2 weeks!
David Young - February 21, 2012
Plus he had to this three times
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
Only 5 posts today. 3 here, 2 at SBN LA
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
With no games, the rest of the week should peter out, but today was pretty prolific with the hour or so with Mattingly and it being the first day of camp.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
Bryce Harper's truck
silverwidow - February 21, 2012
Of course it is
Fitting.
But he’s no Ted Lilly
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
He's no
Vincete Padilla.
bhsportsguy - February 21, 2012
If I was a ballplayer I’d certainly have a bulletproof badass ride.
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
The Popemobile
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
HITNG?
Hollywood Joe - February 21, 2012
The dumbest looking vehicle I’ve seen in awhile
mleadman - February 21, 2012
I used to have a shirt that said “Bummer”
Hollywood Joe - February 21, 2012
THATS A BAD ASS
tundra crewmax right there. love it.
delias man - February 21, 2012
are those blackout lights?
what a loser
nolander - February 21, 2012
you’ve seen the way he wears his eyeblack, dude is a tool
Maddz - February 21, 2012
I was disappointed you didn’t show up to the softball tournament in serious eyeblack.
David Young - February 21, 2012
had it on me, totally forgot to put it on.
Maddz - February 21, 2012
I don’t see the correlation. I watched his interview on MLBN and he seems like a hardworking kid.
Pure Azure - February 21, 2012 via Android app
being hardworking and being a tool is not mutually exclusive
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
I don’t think he’s a tool, is what I’m saying. Is he cocky? Sure. I would be too.
Who cares about his eyeblack?
Pure Azure - February 21, 2012 via Android app
I wouldn’t be cocky until I’ve accomplished something at the highest levels. Until then, there is plenty of opportunity to get humbled. And all the old-timers say baseball is a humbling game, don’t they?
David Young - February 21, 2012
“Two types of people in baseball, those who are humble and those who are about to become humble”
Tommy Blackjack - February 21, 2012 via iPhone app
From the atlantic to the pacific, known as Tom terrific
Hollywood Joe - February 21, 2012
Easy to say when you don’t possess all-world talent. From Babe Ruth to Barry Bonds great players have always been confident from the beginning.
I’d want to have my all-world prodigy thinking he’s the shit. Eyeblack? Call me when the guy acts like an asshole to teammates and clubhouse attendants. Until then I’ll reserve judgment.
Pure Azure - February 21, 2012 via Android app
seriously
Most incidents I hear of him being a dick is in reaction to something someone else did. He’s only 19.
Tommy Blackjack - February 21, 2012 via iPhone app
I’m more amused about this strident reaction. HOW DARE THEY CALL A KID WHO TAUNTED A PITCHER AFTER A HOMERUN A TOOL. HOW DARE THEY.
I dare. DGAF. If I saw a guy driving that truck, down the street? I would think “bro alert.”
you might think “my, what a hardworking, mightly talented gentleman.” and then when i am surprised that you’re right, you get to say “But didn’t you see the interview? If you had seen it, you would have known.”
Maddz - February 21, 2012
I’m the one being strident?
Pure Azure - February 22, 2012 via Android app
Saw him at Fanfest in 2010. He was wandering around the Negro Leagues Exhibit like a kid, in awe of the memorabilia and stuff. I was the only person who seemed to recognize him. He seemed to have a sense of his place in the world. Between the lines, I think he has a Jordan-Kobe sort of fire to win that is seen only among elite athletes.
Nolij - February 21, 2012
To your last point, for sure, but that doesn’t mean that Kobe isn’t a dick.
To be honest, I like that about Kobe. I like that he’s a dick. Cos he’s on “my” team. If Harper were a Dodger, I’d be like YEAH BUDDY! But he’s not. I think Ethier’s a tool, too, but I think that he’s hilarious cos he’s on my team.
Maddz - February 21, 2012
Yeah, I’m not sure where I stand on Bryce’s dickitude, but I wish he were our possible-dick and not somebody else’s.
Nolij - February 21, 2012
he’s been raised from a very young age like a prodify. He’s bound to be a tool.
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
where are the flood lights, gun rack and tackle box?
Surprised he didn’t paint it like the old Bigfoot monster truck
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
Mike Cameron = Chet Lemon?
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
I think better
but I could be discounting Lemon
bhsportsguy - February 21, 2012
you won't get a Lemon
at Mike Cameron Toyota
mleadman - February 21, 2012
Not a bad comp
I think Cameron’s defensive rep probably is bigger, Lemon probably the better batter.
David Young - February 21, 2012
Darvish threw 30 pitches today
His catcher, Luis Martinez, said there’s nobody like him. The hype is ON.
silverwidow - February 21, 2012
Yu should buy a tricked out truck
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
biting tongue so hard!!!!!
delias man - February 21, 2012
Almost forgot
silverwidow - February 21, 2012
The main moral I get out of this gif
is don’t sign the batter
mleadman - February 21, 2012
Pujols would have hit that 539 feet
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
I forgot...
Lilly is still on the team..I really get scared everytime I watch him pitch..
DannyDodger - February 21, 2012
except for that stretch from
july 29-sep 28 where he was outstanding?
delias man - February 21, 2012
You never do that for Loney:)
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
i am not a loney basher.
i kinda sit silently on my thoughts about him. but Lilly really grew on me
delias man - February 21, 2012
Always liked his ability to put up a good K rate considering his velocity.
Taylor Maricle - February 21, 2012
Yes, he’s the left handed Shawn Marcum. Cagey bugger, will pitch a bunch of innings, but last thing I want is him facing a good right handed hitting team.
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
I will always remember Ted Lilly as the guy Matt Kemp took over the LF bullpen wall and onto the concourse. Tremendous shot.
David Young - February 21, 2012
no one noticed
the season was over at that point
Joey Joe - February 21, 2012
Come on, who didn’t other then a few jaded individuals not enjoy the last eight weeks of the season?
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
nfl has trained me to root for losses
once my team is out of it
Joey Joe - February 21, 2012
I don’t disagree with this, though it is an unpopular view.
kinbote - February 21, 2012
Would make a 162 game season painful if most of you had that view. When it comes to baseball I take a game by game view, each one has the propensity for some memories. We may not have been a post season team in 2011, but the games in Aug / Sept were very enjoyable.
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
There just comes a point when it’s all about next year, but I know what you’re saying.
kinbote - February 21, 2012
You are talking to a 25 year Clipper fan
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
Bingo
I routinely watched Clipper games when the season had essentially been over for months. I could never bring myself to root for them to lose. I enjoy watching my favorite team win.
Michael White - February 21, 2012
IMO I think wanting your favorite NBA team to lose out when postseason hopes are over to get a really good pick on a guy who will most likely help you the following season is different then wanting an MLB team to lose out, for what? a better 1st round pick on a guy you might not see for 5 years??
uschris0304 - February 21, 2012
Both drafts are full of busts and surprises. No guarantee of either just because you decided to lose more.
VegasBlues - February 21, 2012
right, true. But I still rather have a high pick in the NBA then MLB. You at the least should get a productive NBA player right off that bat unless you really fucked the pick up, or its a Euro player.
uschris0304 - February 21, 2012
The success rate isn’t that high in the NBA. Unless you’re talking overall number 1 pick. But if you’re talking lottery the floor is not productive NBA player right off the bat.
Michael White - February 21, 2012
Boy, don’t we know it:(
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
True if the draft was static but those damn balls have wrecked all sort of havoc on that theory.
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
yep
there’s a point of dimishing returns when it comes to getting enjoyment out of wins that hurt future draft position while not changing the present circumstances..
Joey Joe - February 21, 2012
Sometimes I just want to clean house.
kinbote - February 21, 2012
Depends if postseason is the only goal.
I think if anyone is hoping for the postseason this year and success in the postseason will define how much they enjoy this season, they are going to be in for a long season. But if you are looking at this season to see what happens with Loney / Andre, Gordon / Sands, Kemp/Kershaw, Ellis/Ellis, Withrow/Webster, Rubby/Eovaldi it will have moments well worth watching. Lots of stories are going to unfold this summer, some will disappoint, some will amaze, in baseball it is all about the ride not about the destination.
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
No argument here. I’m not the best fan in the world. When the Ducks won the N.I.T. (I think they did) a few years ago, I don’t even remember it.
kinbote - February 21, 2012
Who cares about the NIT
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
The NIT would be so much cooler if Hans Gruber said the three letters with the same cadence as FBI.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
This year, UCLA.
(Note: USC wishes it could care about the NIT)
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
Just after I graduated from UCLA
The BB team missed out on the NCAA tournament and then declined an invitation to the NIT.
David Young - February 21, 2012
We had price once upon a time. And a basketball program.
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
It’s a fine line between pride and arrogance. In 1984 we were not yet 10 years removed from the John Wooden years. At some point you have to accept that the Wooden years are the outliers, things will be cyclical, and sometimes the NIT is where you belong. In 1985 they accepted an NIT invite and won the tournament behind Reggie Miller, IIRC.
David Young - February 21, 2012
When I was at UCLA
I remember looking out of the Lot 32 bus and seeing Rod Foster driving a Trams Am with Rocket Rod or something like that on the license plate.
That 79-80 team was officially removed from all NCAA Final Four records per their probation.
bhsportsguy - February 21, 2012
When I was a freshman
they was almost literal wailing and gnashing of teeth because the team got eliminated from the tournament and the senior class, led by David Greenwood, became the first class since the early sixties not to win at least one championship.
David Young - February 21, 2012
Larry Brown
was very popular on campus during his two years there.
David Young - February 21, 2012
Does the NIT cost the university money or do they make money from it?
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
No idea. I imagine the coaches like getting to work with their players for a few more games though, at least the players they expect to return for next season.
David Young - February 21, 2012
costs money
delias man - February 22, 2012 via iPhone app
who cares about playing out the string
on a major league team?
Joey Joe - February 21, 2012
basement dwellers
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
major leaguers
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
I’m fairly certain Jon Weisman taught me such things.
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
:)
JonWeisman - February 21, 2012
Nice write-up on the O’Malley’s Jon.
Xeifrank - February 21, 2012
nice
who is this guy posting as Phil?
Hollywood Joe - February 21, 2012
Give me some hope for the future and I’ll be perfectly happy rooting for the Dodgers to win all of 83 games this year.
VegasBlues - February 21, 2012
New Owner
Long Term Kemp Contract
Kershaw will follow
Dee Gordon
Jerry Sands
Chad still battling
Rubby
Eovaldi
Jansen
Guerra
David Wright:)
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
All of these things (except I don’t want Wright) would be or will be great. I was mainly just saying that I’ll be happy with all 83 wins we get as long as I have stuff like that to root for.
Gordon and Sands showing they deserve to be full time starters in MLB as well as a young pitcher or two (Withrow? Webster? Maybe some other young guy who makes the jump from AA late in the year?).
I’m not expecting this team to make the playoffs. I’m fine with that. I damn sure don’t want my team to lose as much as possible just to get the #1 pick like Joey Joe would have us do just because we don’t have a shot at winning the WS.
VegasBlues - February 21, 2012
those memories are from individual achievement tho..
You can still cheer for individual accolades and team losses…best of both worlds..
Joey Joe - February 21, 2012
rooting for Kemp to reach 40/40
and Kershaw to win his Cy Young was exciting.
Maddz - February 21, 2012
Fans who root for their team to lose should be shot out of a cannon into another cannon
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
How about we slow dip them into overflowing septic tanks?
Grimjack - February 21, 2012
Add in “hanging upside down” and we have a deal!
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
How about we slow dip them into overflowing septic tanks hanging upside down?
Grimjack - February 21, 2012
Deal
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
Oh yay ohh yay oohhh yayyyy!
kinbote - February 21, 2012
call back
Grimjack - February 21, 2012
i'd trade that rams win this year over the cleveland browns
for Andrew Luck..
call me crazy
Joey Joe - February 21, 2012
Crazy
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
Football is also not like baseball where there is a wider diversity opinion amongst those that select where players should be drafted. A bad baseball team will still win 4 out of 10 games. Outside of literally tanking games, which the commissioner will take a very dim view of, it is hard to imagine that picking up an additional loss here and there is going to change draft position all that much. Is drafting 13th a substantial difference from 15th?
David Young - February 21, 2012
I don’t ever root for my team to lose whether it’s the Dodgers, Titans, Lakers, or any other college team I might like. Screw rooting for losses.
VegasBlues - February 21, 2012
I’m certain TBLA did.
David Young - February 21, 2012
yawn
delias man - February 21, 2012
I don’t get scared, but I do shrug and wonder how he is able to get by with his stuff against the best offenses in the world.
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
Didn’t Michael do his fab five right about now?
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
It is a spring training project, yes.
Actually, I’ve got time between player profiles that I’ve signed up for, so you might see some Fave 5 action soon.
Michael White - February 21, 2012
what year?
delias man - February 21, 2012
I feel pretty confident it will be 2012. I make no promises though.
But seriously, it’ll be out fairly soon.
Michael White - February 21, 2012
fair enough
delias man - February 21, 2012
When do we get Brandons final top 20?
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
I thought he said last week
it would be by the end of the month meaning that maybe one this week and one next week.
bhsportsguy - February 21, 2012
Eric said it was
Thursday-Tuesday-Thursday when asked when the top 30 was coming out.
So i guess we should have had the 20-11 guys today
Taylor Maricle - February 21, 2012
Next post will be tomorrow or Thursday. Top 10 is next week.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
LIARRR.
Taylor Maricle - February 21, 2012
That is drawing it out. Luckily I only choose to write about stiffs so I probably don’t need any quotes from him.
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
March 22
Considering we’re involved in some kind of game from March 5th through opening day, does March 22 (no game) has any special meaning as a cut day?
kinbote - February 21, 2012
It has special meaning as a day I will sleep in.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
You can spend the day putting gunpowder in your cannon.
kinbote - February 21, 2012
Two cannons.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
But back to your question
There isn’t much of a clamoring to make roster moves on a spring off day.
For instance, last year they had an off day on March 16. They cut four guys on March 15 and two more on March 17.
But they also cut eight guys on March 14. March 22 will be roughly around the time where they start to really pare down the roster so some moves could happen then, but it is not likely to be related to the fact that they are off.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
Thanks. I can’t wait for the games to begin.
kinbote - February 21, 2012
One more note
Don Mattingly’s oldest son, Taylor, had a baby three weeks ago, Cash Michael Mattingly, in Evansville, giving Mattingly his first grandchild.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
That’s money
silverwidow - February 21, 2012
Cash in hand.
berkowit28 - February 21, 2012
D3G
kinbote - February 21, 2012
Future tweet
Nolij - February 21, 2012
I can't think of a worse scenario
than Steve Hartman taking over as Dodger play-by-play man. THIS IS NOT REAL. It’s just a nightmare.
silverwidow - February 21, 2012
Where did that come from? Did I miss something?
JonWeisman - February 21, 2012
A chili-dog addled mind.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
No, that is what we call SilverWidow being Silverwidow. It is not always a pleasant experience.
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
I think in the future we call these utterances a TBLA Spasm or TBLA Hairball
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
Just a warning: if this ever happens in real life I will ban you. :)
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
In the Dodgers offices where the PR department works there is a TV on the wall, and below the TV there is a piece of paper listing four channels and their numbers: CBS, TNT, TBS, and Tru TV.
I first thought, “why they hell is Tru TV on there?” but then I remembered the NCAA tournament is a mere three weeks away.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
We must get our TBLA March Madness on
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
UCI is going to win it all
in… is there a 3rd tournament after the NIT?
nolander - February 21, 2012
Yep, the CBI
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
Cock and balls invitational?
mleadman - February 21, 2012
http://www.gazellegroup.com/events/cbi/index_main.htm
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
Greatest sports event. I go from not watching any college basketball to following every single game.
kinbote - February 21, 2012
going to vegas for the second weekend
of the tourney
delias man - February 21, 2012
I always like the first weekend
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
The first two days of the tournament, especially, are so great.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
The first weekend, from 64 to 16, rules beyond words. Vegas is a great call.
kinbote - February 21, 2012
i always have two family birthdays the first weekend
delias man - February 21, 2012
The best birthday present you could give them is to be out of town. At least that is what my wife tells me.
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
maybe in about 5 more years that will be the situation
delias man - February 21, 2012
no way
in five years the situation will be nothing but a trivial pursuit answer.
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
I didn't post this earlier
but both Gwynn and Kemp said they tried to recruit Prince Fielder to LA, and both thought he would end up a Dodger until Detroit blew everyone out of the water. Gwynn is especially close to Fielder and went to Bora Bora this winter together.
Dylan Hernandez wrote about it earlier, a pretty good summation.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
Sound like you and Nolander were correct.
Like the man who got 50 – 1 on the safety being the first score of the superbowl, one has to wonder what the odds are that Loney has a higher OPS+ then Prince Fielder in 2012?
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
Vegas pulled that game off the floor.
Grimjack - February 21, 2012
I thought that said Tora Bora and was confused.
fbihop - February 21, 2012
I hear it’s lovely this time of year
Michael White - February 21, 2012
We’re going to need a bigger cave.
kinbote - February 21, 2012
I read that earlier,a nd as I posted on DT that mostly just makes me mad at Fielder and cursing the bad luck of the VMart injury
Seems like Dodgers tried pretty hard…
underdog - February 21, 2012
Delias - cheer up
Bill Shaikin @BillShaikin
O’Malley out of #Dodgers bidding: lat.ms/yxc3J0
bhsportsguy - February 21, 2012
made my day
delias man - February 21, 2012
His penance for selling to Fox.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
Is this referring to Yaeger?
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
yes
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
That’s sick.
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
Is he referring to
tennis star Andrea Jaeger.
bhsportsguy - February 21, 2012
or NFL great
kicker Jeff Jeager
delias man - February 21, 2012
dam, old school Jeff Jeager, thats a name I havent heard in a long time… thanks for the memory.
uschris0304 - February 21, 2012
I’m not.
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
An informal coach, in uniform. Sort of like Manny Mota with more responsibility.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
I gotcha.
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
I completely forgot a first sentence there, mentioning Steve Yeager’s full name. Refresh for the updated version.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
I had, by far, the best meal of my life today. It’ll draw skepticism here as it did with me when I was told where we were going for a vendor meeting today, but this sushi place in valencia blew my mind away. I’ll have to get the name.
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
I had a turkey and havarti sandwich on a croissant that was pretty kick ass.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
I have no idea what havarti is
silverwidow - February 21, 2012
cheese
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
Havarti
is Danish cheese, melts well.
bhsportsguy - February 21, 2012
is a particular
Danish cheese
bhsportsguy - February 21, 2012
Humma might come kill you…and teach you a few things…
VegasBlues - February 21, 2012
That sounds like Moe
“Wake up and go to sleep, you numbskulls.”
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
My idea of a great meal is simply assloads of fish sticks.
silverwidow - February 21, 2012
with mac and cheese? yeah buddy!!
uschris0304 - February 21, 2012
Fries, tarter sauce, lemon. Kicks ass man.
silverwidow - February 21, 2012
My great meal starts with steak and baked potato, and then either shrimp, crab, or lobster.
uschris0304 - February 21, 2012
Fuck, my brother makes steak and lobster all the time.
silverwidow - February 21, 2012
Dodger family multiplying like bunnies
Ted Lilly’s wife had a baby today…Nora Grace
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
so Lilly won’t be throwing his bullpen session tomorrow. Story updated above.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
another fucking Zobrist
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
Ted Lilly's wife even hits a HR
Congrats!
Xeifrank - February 21, 2012
Once the Clippers lost last night I put in my George of the Jungle / Super Chicken DVD. The shows suck but goddam if those intro songs did not kick ass. buck buck buck has been buzzing my brain all day. Watch out for that treeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
Caption: 50
Xeifrank - February 21, 2012
Winner for reading
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
Rec’d
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
50 ABQ
And 30 in LA
Grimjack - February 21, 2012
I feel like Ned doesn't want to start Sands
but that Mattingly does
nolander - February 21, 2012
Mattingly just called Rivera one of his clean-up hitters, essentially.
David Young - February 21, 2012
his quotes last spring were also funny
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
Touché.
David Young - February 21, 2012
against lefties
nolander - February 21, 2012
Nonetheless.
David Young - February 21, 2012
I don’t think Mattingly wants to start Sands every day, but rather is trying to find ways to play him enough to stay with the big club.
I have some more quotes that I haven’t gotten into just yet, but essentially Mattingly said he believes Ethier and Loney can hit lefties but knows full well the numbers say otherwise. He sounded like someone who didn’t want to go full platoon for both guys but was trying to convince himself to sit Ethier/Loney more against LHP.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
Donnie throws lefty and was a LH batter. Why doesn’t he throw them a bunch of BP and teach them how to hit against a lefty? Mattingly himself hit less against lefties, but his split was hardly terrible:
vs LHP: .296 / .344 / .448 / .792
vs RHP: .314 / .366 / .484 / .850
David Young - February 21, 2012
He’s always thrown BP when I’ve been there but if you want to learn to hit lefties shouldn’t you be facing a real major league left handed pitcher?
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
Ted Lilly throws BP one or two times a week too.
Xeifrank - February 21, 2012
I’m being a bit facetious. If I were Ethier with his 8-figure salary, I’d hire an AAAA lefty to throw a shit-ton of pitches to me.
David Young - February 21, 2012
Fucking A, I’d hire Ledesma, he needs the money
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
Exactly.
David Young - February 21, 2012
put the screen at 30 feet and it doesn’t matter who is throwing as long as it’s strikes
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
Buster Posey had a funny quote yesterday. Something about, “Four-seamer coming in at 55 mph—yeah, I tend to crush those.”
kinbote - February 21, 2012
it’s certainly easier, but the problem isn’t that neither of them can hit a lefty slider, it’s the early recognition of such.
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
How does the thrower with the 30-foot screen help with that?
David Young - February 21, 2012
Dave Hansen, the batting coach, had 2101 career PA, but only 154 against lefties, flailing for .188 / .286 / .293 / .579 against them.
David Young - February 21, 2012
I know he was a pinch-hitter forever, but damn that percentage of PA is amazing.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
Off the top of your head who do you think was a left handed hitter who hit lefties with no problem?
I kind of remember Garrett Anderson being able to jack left handed pitching.
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
Mike Davis.
David Young - February 21, 2012
He didn't hit them with no problem, but close to even on the split
vs LHP: .255 / .307 / .421 / .727
vs RHP: .261 / .315 / .413 / .728
David Young - February 21, 2012
Can’t believe I ever was excited about getting him as a free agent.
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
24 jacks in 1987!
Sure everyone was hitting them that year, but still.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
Babe Ruth.
David Young - February 21, 2012
Chase Utley?
Xeifrank - February 21, 2012
barry bonds
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
Donnie 2X, Bonds, Jr (the early years)
Greg Stephen - February 21, 2012
Okay non HOF -
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
So, you don't think Dave Hansen is HOF worthy?
Greg Stephen - February 21, 2012
HOF coach after Loney has 28 jacks this year :)
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
Juan Pierre?
David Young - February 21, 2012
And that is why I follow you on twitter
Greg Stephen - February 21, 2012
Because he’s insufferable here?
fbihop - February 21, 2012
No, because he is a comic genius
Greg Stephen - February 21, 2012
vs. LHP: .305 / .363 / .345 / .708
vs. RHP: .293 / .339 / .369 / .708
I think if Dee Gordon hits .305 / .363 / .345 for the season, I’ll be happy with that.
David Young - February 21, 2012
he’ll steal 80 bases if he gets on base that much
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
I’ll be happy with that.
David Young - February 21, 2012
i almost wouldn’t be surprised if he pushes for triples digits if his OBP is that high. 600PA at .363 would be him on base 217 times.
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
He’d have to take off way, way more often than anyone else if he wanted to hit triple digits.
The most times someone attempted to steal last year when they could (on base with the base in front of them open) was 38%, Dee was at 30%.
regfairfield - February 21, 2012
who is someone
nolander - February 21, 2012
I did minimum 10 steals, so Jason Bourgouise. Michael Bourn went 23% of the time.
regfairfield - February 21, 2012
700 PA at .363 = 254 times on base. 34% of that is 86. About an 80% success rate will be about 70 steals.
David Young - February 21, 2012
Dee will end up with way more than 254 opportunities (reaching on fielders choice).
regfairfield - February 21, 2012
ah that makes sense
I was trying to make these numbers make sense but was coming up with a very low amount of steals for him.
nolander - February 21, 2012
also errors
dee seemed to ‘force’ a ton of errant throws to 1st base
nolander - February 21, 2012
Twice last year.
That is an interesting idea for a post though, going through at some awesome ROEs
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
had to be more then twice
I remember a lot of shitty throws going towards first when he was batting
nolander - February 21, 2012
maybe they where ruled hits
nolander - February 21, 2012
Your data would be mixed with botched plays and dropped fly balls and the like as well as rushed throws though. I assume the leaders would still be fast guys though.
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
I'm seeing 3 on BR using their events thingy
can’t figure out how to find out if he advanced to 2nd on an error in an at bat ruled a base hit
nolander - February 21, 2012
I’m really not sold on that being a skill. 9 guys in the NL reached on error 10+ times last year and that includes Carlos Lee, Hunter Pence, and Aubrey Huff. Only 3 of the 9 had 10+ steals last year.
regfairfield - February 21, 2012
“It’s Carlos Lee, I have time..oh not that much time SHIT”
:)
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
hm
it would seem to logically happen with a guy like dee bunting a lot. Maybe what I should be looking for is how many times did he advance from first on a bunt base hit to 2nd on an errant throw
nolander - February 21, 2012
That would get lumped into extra bases taken, I think.
regfairfield - February 21, 2012
no way to figure this out, since he’ll get on base with a pitcher or AJ Ellis a base in front of him sometimes too.
It’s still fun to think about.
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
Baseline Michael Bourn lead the league in opportunities with 319. Had 720 PA and a .345 on base.
regfairfield - February 21, 2012
If Dee does that, attempts 30% of the time (94 tries), and is successful 80% (I hope), that is 75 steals.
David Young - February 21, 2012
bernie williams
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
i’m stupid.
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
Not really
Williams had 1 walk in his 1 career PA as a LHB against a LHP :)
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
bernie was a switch hitter. he faced lefties as a righty.
Also, tino martinez.
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
I knew that. I was trying to help you here.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
also, i didn’t read your comment, just the header.
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
Just noticed your signature
Fado’s pub slogan this year “You can’t drink all day if you don’t start in the morning”
Greg Stephen - February 21, 2012
my best friend’s 88 year old grandmother said that to me a couple weeks ago.
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
So much awesome in that statement
Greg Stephen - February 21, 2012
Greg Stephen - February 21, 2012
Quote fail
Greg Stephen - February 21, 2012
I probably should have just said make the team out of spring training
nolander - February 21, 2012
I agree with the first part (Mattingly) but not necessarily the second part (Ned)
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
It just seems to me if Ned wanted Sands to make the team out of spring training
he wouldn’t have put so many obstacles in his way
nolander - February 21, 2012
If Juan is to big an obstacle then Sands simply was a lousy hurdler
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
Exactly. Don’t need Edwin Moses to clear that speed bump.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
Olympic Chills
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
then why are we paying juan so much?
nolander - February 21, 2012
You asked for a miracle
I give you the R…B…I
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
Rec.
David Young - February 21, 2012
1/$4M doesn’t look so bad when I compare it to some of the infielders and back-end starters on this team.
David Young - February 21, 2012
thats 4.5 million to you
nolander - February 21, 2012
It’s as if you’re talking directly to Harang.
kinbote - February 21, 2012
Does Ned
even ask Mattingly what he thinks when going after free agents?
funkyjam - February 21, 2012
It would be a shitty relationship if GM and manager don’t speak about personnel, needs, and available players.
David Young - February 21, 2012
Right
I’m sure they discuss.
GM has final say on personnel, manager has final say on lineups, but if the GM wants a lineup used and the manager doesn’t do it, there’s still a chain of command for firings. This is why most clubs use a President and an Owner. We chose neither :)
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
And yet both Jim Tracy and Paul DePodesta got fired.
David Young - February 21, 2012
owner
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
Yup.
David Young - February 21, 2012
Since I started writing for TBLA
First spring without Rafy Furcal
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
First spring without Broxton
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
First spring without Kuo
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
First spring without Kuroda
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
First spring without Casey Blake
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
First spring with Jim Loney.
David Young - February 21, 2012
I'm going to cry now
nolander - February 21, 2012
First without Frank
/sort of
Michael White - February 21, 2012
Damn, again
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
...
silverwidow - February 21, 2012
Reggie Jackson was one big dude.
Xeifrank - February 21, 2012
Damn. He was here for six years.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
Gurnick
link
Someone has some false information here, right?
silverwidow - February 21, 2012
Does it really matter though?
kinbote - February 21, 2012
OT – Feel free to Z
Last summer in a pennant move which gave me the league title but I lost in the playoffs, my Dodger ScoreSheet Root team traded Josh Johnson, Dee Gordon, Nathan Eovaldi, and Chris Reed for Miggy Cabrera.
In Scoresheet root league you must keep seven players from your root team. The guy I traded to just announced his non root keepers for 2012. And left Dee Gordon off the list. So I get to make a claim for him since Gordon is on my Root team.
Even better he also decided not to keep Chris Reed even though that would only cost him a 36th round draft pick. So I also get Chris Reed. So basically I traded Josh Johnson and Eovaldi for MIggy. I’m quite Miggy about the whole thing because I really needed a SS and was bummed my Dodger root team did not have Gordon.
My seven root keepers are going to be Kemp, Andre, Gordon, Kershaw, Billingsley, Lilly, Rubby, and Jansen
My pitching is light with Javy Vazquez retiring and Kuroda heading to the AL but my non root keepers are studly with Justin Upton, Miggy, Zimmerman.
Phil Gurnee - February 21, 2012
seemed to work out well for you
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
More on topic than wrestling chat.
David Young - February 21, 2012
unless it’s Greco-Roman, I want none of it
Josie Becker - February 21, 2012
What about wrastlin’?
kinbote - February 21, 2012
Dan Henderson!
fbihop - February 21, 2012
Wait
AJ Burnett is 35?
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
That is rather shocking
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012
I was shocked.
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
His no-no was one of the strangest games I’ve ever seen pitched. He was all over the place.
kinbote - February 21, 2012
oh my goodness
there is a website called “projectswole.com”
Maddz - February 21, 2012
Oeltjen
Optioned by AZ on 8/29/09
Called-up by AZ on 9/08/09 (Under 20 days; no option officially used)
Signs minor league deal with LAD on 7/05/10
Assigned to Triple-A on 7/06/10
Called-up by LAD on 9/07/10
Non-tendered by LAD on 12/02/10; elects free agency
Signs minor league deal with LAD on 01/26/11
Called-up by LAD on 6/09/11
The first time he was ever put on a 40-man roster was by the D-Backs in 2009, so these are all of his transactions. I see no options used at all.
silverwidow - February 21, 2012
I should note, Oeltjen’s contract was first purchased on 8/06/09.
silverwidow - February 21, 2012
I defer to Eric’s expertise on these things, but he may have used up his options in other ways. Been 11 years since he first signed a contract – don’t you use up option year just by being around long enough? Been a minor-league free agent. He’s also been outrighted before, per Cot’s/BP:
David Young - February 21, 2012
You can only use options if you're on a 40-man roster
I checked Trent’s history with the Minnesota organization, and he was never put on their roster. So the transactions above with Arizona are the first of their kind (to the best of my knowledge).
It really doesn’t matter how long he’s been playing in the minors; just look at John Lindsay for instance. When the Dodgers called him up for the first time in his career, he had a fresh slate of options ready to be used in the ensuing years. Of course, that never happened because he wasn’t good enough and they dumped him.
Back to Oeltjen — because he’s been outrighted before, he can become a free agent if the Dodgers DFA him and he clears waivers. I think that played into why he’s been kept around; the Dodgers value him as minor league depth. And as long as he’s on our roster (with options), we own him, for lack of a better word.
silverwidow - February 21, 2012
Eric told me that Janie McCauley
is the writer in the photo with Eric and Dylan Hernandez She is a 1998 graduate of WSU and per the article below, got her start as a stringer eventually leading her to a staff job on the local Spokane paper which eventually led to the Bay Area.
She is the San Francisco Bay Area AP beat writer who covers baseball, college football and other sports, her husband is also an AP sportswriter who covers the Oakland Raiders. They have two young children and live in the Bay Area.
Nice story about her being named the AP writer of the year in 2006.
bhsportsguy - February 21, 2012
Also not that this really matters
but she is 12 years younger than Suzy Kolber.
bhsportsguy - February 21, 2012
we can call her “future Josie”
Josie Becker - February 21, 2012
“I want to kiss you.”
“Huge compliment, Joe.”
kinbote - February 21, 2012
She was super nice too
For Mattingly’s meeting it was just the big three plus McCauley, me, and Tim Keown of ESPN. That was pretty much it for today.
Eric Stephen - February 21, 2012 via mobile
When does Simers arrive and who will his target be this year?
Last year was while we were there.
David Young - February 21, 2012
Guessing TJ Simers’ target of his first attack is a TBLA Contest in and of itself.
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
Aaron Harang
And Jerry Hairston will be who he talks to first.
bhsportsguy - February 21, 2012
big 3 being Dylan, Tony and Dilbeck?
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
Yup, that’s who he means. Kinda funny it’s down to one newspaper and two internet outlets (albeit big ones).
David Young - February 21, 2012
Sorry, I misread your comment. He means Dylan, Tony J, and Gurnick.
David Young - February 21, 2012
yeah i couldn’t remember the third. Gurnick.
G.Scott - February 21, 2012
Is Gurnick the Humma-sized fellow?
Nolij - February 21, 2012
Yes.
David Young - February 22, 2012
Loved the pic of you and Kershaw. I wonder if they know how much you know, y’know?
kinbote - February 21, 2012
She
Also covers the 49ers.
bhsportsguy - February 21, 2012
Watch…Eric will be wearing her hat (a much larger version of it, at least) in another week.
KellyStephen - February 21, 2012
Bobby Abreu is going down
the play me or trade me route.
David Young - February 21, 2012
Classic dick move.
I’m guessing that if there was any interest they would have already traded him.
KellyStephen - February 21, 2012
they almost did for burnett
burnett blocked it
nolander - February 21, 2012
They tried to for AJ Burnett
Tommy Blackjack - February 21, 2012 via iPhone app
agree
Especially with such an old player. Sign the contract and play the game. The rest is out of your hands. To me, this is twice the dick move of anything Bryce Harper’s allegedly done.
kinbote - February 21, 2012
hell the angels would be happy if they could void his contract pay him nothing and let him walk free
he is not going to perform up to his contract.
nolander - February 21, 2012
I am trying to figure
Out why they think Trumbo can play 3B especially since they still have the two guys who payed 3B for them in 2011.
bhsportsguy - February 21, 2012
Dodgers had lots of guys who played 3b for them last year
Callaspo had a career year, Izturis is servicable but a walking injury risk. Trumbo has a good chance to develop into a much better hitter then either of them and they have nowhere else to put him, so why not try?
nolander - February 21, 2012
I don't blame Bobby for wanting to play
It is both in his best interest and I am sure in his mind, the team’s best interest that e us playing rather than sitting.
bhsportsguy - February 21, 2012
seriously?
he turned into a singles hitter last year and is going to make 12 milliond dollars this year. What does he expect them to do? No one wants him all that much and the angels aren’t going to get much by trading him and eating his salary
nolander - February 21, 2012
apparently 9 million instead of 12?
still not good
nolander - February 21, 2012
Great post, Eric
one of the many reasons tbla is the best dodger blog on the web
court168627 - February 21, 2012 via Android app
First softball game of the season tonight, we went down 13-7. 16 foot pitch height so much tougher to hit than in the blogger tourney. Need Robotmadeofnails for a softball umpire ruling.
Xeifrank - February 21, 2012
Reminds me of when I played softball. I am absolutely horrible at softball. Can’t judge where the ball is in the air, can’t hit for power, have a weak arm. But I’m fast, at least.
Our team was terrible and I was one of the better players (which is so sad). We were getting beat something like 12-0 in the 3rd inning and I took a good cut at a pitch but pulled it just foul. Probably the hardest I hit a ball ever, over the left fielder’s head (I normally don’t even get the ball out of the infield. I’m a soccer player, not a baseball or softball player). So then the pitcher decides he’s had enough and throws a knuckleball to me. I swung, flailed, missed and sat down a sad and broken man.
fbihop - February 21, 2012
I played on/managed two teams under unlimited arc slow-pitch rules that my pitchers threw no hitters. Nearly unheard of. These guys could throw the ball 30 feet in the air and drop it on the back of the mat. These opposing batters looked terrified while swinging and either popping it up or missing entirely. It’s an entirely different skill to hit that kind of pitch.
iiidown - February 21, 2012
If I remember correctly, one of the girls that I saw pitching was pitching USSSA style. Max height 10 feet, must pass through the strike zone. But in the tourney ie must land on the plate and /or mat. With most slow pitch players, it looks too good to pass up, so they swing at it. But with the speed it’s thrown, the ball can be made to do many things: knuckle, curve drop. etc., etc.
iiidown - February 21, 2012
Pop up in front of home plate. Batter not happy with his popup so he puts out of the box and stands out in front of home plate holding the bat. Of course he is standing in between the catcher and where the ball is going to land. Catcher has to take the route around the batter and not being a very athletic person (as most softball catchers aren’t) he muffs the ball and it spins back towards home plate past the feet of the batter who is still standing out in front of home plate holding the bat. The catcher scrambles around the batter again to go get the ball, meanwhile the batter drops the bat and takes off for first base and makes it safely before the throw. Interference or tough shit?
Xeifrank - February 21, 2012
I think – I don’t know, but I think
if the catcher runs into the batter then interference, but if the catcher avoids the batter then tough shit
Hollywood Joe - February 21, 2012
I told the catcher to run in to him next time to make it obvious.
Xeifrank - February 21, 2012
and this play cost us the game tonight as it opened the flood gates to a big inning.
Xeifrank - February 21, 2012
yes – good advice
Hollywood Joe - February 21, 2012
run in to him and then grab your groin and say the guy kneed you in the nuts on purpose.
Xeifrank - February 21, 2012
Is the paypal thing for donating for Eric to be in AZ still there?
fbihop - February 21, 2012
You
Can always use PayPal to send something to Eric
bhsportsguy - February 21, 2012
I guess what I was asking is… what’s the link to send him stuff?
fbihop - February 21, 2012
Info
www.paypal.com
mof328
@
yahoo.com
bhsportsguy - February 21, 2012
thx
fbihop - February 21, 2012
delias man
Got my sons down, turned on “Luck,” my wife starts crunching around in the kitchen. Yargh! I think I’m hooked, though I’m not sure what’s happening all the time. The two doofuses of the gambling four are my favorite characters.
kinbote - February 21, 2012
Yeah, I watched three episodes in the past two days. Kind of confused and the normal reviews (Onion AV Club, Alan Sepinwall) don’t help all that much.
Still, enjoyable.
fbihop - February 21, 2012
i am now 3 episodes in
I am hooked. This shit is gonna get real next week.
delias man - February 22, 2012 via iPhone app
Matt Kemp: No MVP by default
link
nolander - February 21, 2012
was this posted earlier?
I may have missed it
nolander - February 21, 2012
Yesterday? Might be a different quote though??
Xeifrank - February 21, 2012
Eric
Mentioned at the top and aso wrote it up in a SBNation LA piece
bhsportsguy - February 21, 2012
haha
for some reason I only read the 2nd half of the post
nolander - February 21, 2012
Re Sands, from thread above, I think it's very easy to find time for him
with Loney needing to sit at times vs LHP (despite what Mattingly says) and Rivera in no way shape or form an everyday outfielder, I think finding enough at bats for Sands should not be a problem at all. Still, I hope he hits well in ST and makes it moot.
Meanwhile, excited about these reports, Eric, and hope you’re settling into your AZ base. If you run into the Penguin tell him he was my favorite player growing up. (No, you don’t have to tell him that)
underdog - February 21, 2012
Portland ended San Antonio's win streak at 11
They won by 40 as Pop held Parker and Duncan out of the game
bhsportsguy - February 21, 2012
137 points. Wuh happened?
Xeifrank - February 21, 2012
Spurs had no Duncan, no Parker and no Ginobli.
fbihop - February 21, 2012
Sounds more like the Spuds than the Spurs.
Xeifrank - February 21, 2012
Spuds can’t play basketball, silly goose
Josie Becker - February 21, 2012
Spud Webb could…
latenite - February 21, 2012
new post
http://www.truebluela.com/2012/2/22/2811814/2012-dodgers-player-profile-angel-guzman
Eric Stephen - February 22, 2012
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