Joe Beimel remains the last Dodger to have a salary arbitration hearing. Clayton Kershaw avoided his next two hearings today, signing a two-year deal worth $19 million.
Kershaw will receive a $500,000 signing bonus, $7.5 million in 2012, and $11 million in 2013, per Dylan Hernandez of the LA Times. Kershaw submitted a salary of $10 million in arbitration while the Dodgers countered at $6.5 million. The $8 million Kershaw receives this year is slightly less than the midpoint, but also the second highest salary ever for a pitcher in his first year of arbitration eligibility, trailing only Tim Lincecum.
UPDATE: Tony Jackson of ESPN LA reports that $2 million of Kershaw's 2012 salary is deferred to January 2013.
Kershaw follows a similar path to that of Matt Kemp and Andre Ethier, both of whom signed a two-year deal during arbitration that left them with one year left before free agency once the contract expires.
In a quick and dirty estimate of what it would take to get Kershaw to sign a long-term contract, I was thinking something like $7m/$12m/$17m for the three arb-eligible seasons. Since this contract matches the total for those first two years, this seems like a win for the Dodgers at first glance, with the caveat that signing Kershaw to a long-term deal is still of the highest priority at Chavez Ravine.
The Dodgers have 18 players under contract for 2012 for a total of $85,975,000.
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KERSH BALLIN
Maddz - February 7, 2012
The arbitration system
is amazingly effective.
Xeifrank - February 7, 2012
Yes, seems to have taken general managers a few years to understand or maybe I’m off the mark.
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
I want to have 2 names like you man, im jealous
uschris0304 - February 7, 2012
Decent pay bump there for Clayton.
found a really cool story about my #1 baseball passion (other than the Dodgers): Negro Leagues
UCLADodger32 - February 7, 2012
You been to the KC Museum?
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
One day. Probably not for a while with money being so tight, so hopefully it will still be open. I really want to go and then make a little BBQ trip from KC to Memphis to Texas.
UCLADodger32 - February 7, 2012
I want to do a BBQ trip like that too. Don’t see how it wouldn’t be fun.
kinbote - February 7, 2012
diarrhea
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
Maybe if you have the constitution of an infant.
Pure Azure - February 8, 2012 via Android app
The 1930s
Pittsburgh Crawfords, Homestead Grays or Kansas City Monarchs would have been very formidable opponents for the Yankees and Athletics.
bhsportsguy - February 7, 2012
The Brooklyn Dodgers sure weren’t.
Nolij - February 7, 2012
Yup. Those dudes could ball back in the day. Some of the best players that ever lived.
UCLADodger32 - February 7, 2012
One of the first baseball books I read
was this one that I checked out at the library.
bhsportsguy - February 7, 2012
One of my favorite books. Every Christmas my Mom buys me a new book that is Negro League related. I think I read that one when I was 13 or 14.
UCLADodger32 - February 7, 2012
Not as much Negro League stuff because he was there for only a year
but Jules Tygiel’s great book on the signing of Jackie Robinson is another good one.
bhsportsguy - February 7, 2012
I knew Clayton would wrap things up well before Valentines Day, he has a wife to take out on a nice date, he doesnt have time to deal with arb meetings.
uschris0304 - February 7, 2012
probably why he has an agent
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
yeah but I was under the impression players showed up at these hearings, but maybe not.
uschris0304 - February 7, 2012
I’m happy with this news. It shows dedication from the team and a willingness to negotiate in good faith from Kershaw/Kershaw’s agent. I imagine the third year was simply too difficult to handicap as it involved two unknown variables (2012 & 2013 performance). I will be shocked if Kershaw never signs a long-term deal with us.
kinbote - February 7, 2012
basically
the team and Kershaw are in the same place the next time his contract is up and Kershaw saw how they treated Kemp.
bhsportsguy - February 7, 2012
While the position player market keeps rising [Pujols, Fielder], I wonder if the FA pitching market is slowing down (mega-contract wise). After Yu Darvish, who will be the next $100m commitment?
kinbote - February 7, 2012
Hamels or Lincecum probably.
regfairfield - February 7, 2012
Will anyone get the Zito deal?
Lex in Brooklyn - February 7, 2012
yes, including the several guys who have already done better than Zito since he signed it in 2006
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
Whats the longets contract given to a pitcher since the Zito deal?
Lex in Brooklyn - February 7, 2012
depends if you count CC’s deal plus the extension or not
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
johan got 6 years, lee took 5, CC signed for 7 then opted out after 3 and signed a 5 year extension.
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
Burnett got 5 years
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
CJ wilson got 5, Weaver/Verlander/Felix all signed 5 year deals pre-free agency.
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
I think Hampton’s 8 year deal soured some teams on long-term deals for pitchers. And BJ Ryan’s 5-year deal was just stupid.
kinbote - February 7, 2012
not sure there’s ever been a long term deal for a left-handed starting pitcher that the team is happy with by the end of it.
CC could be the first, but even then he didn’t make it to the end of the deal.
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
I forgot Kei Igawa once got a five year deal . . .
kinbote - February 7, 2012
think he spent the last 3 years or so of it in the minor leagues
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
CC’s original deal with the Yankees was worth more money than Zito got, and one fewer year.
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
yes, including the several guys who have already done better than Zito since he signed it in 2006
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
Hamels is the guy I was forgetting.
kinbote - February 7, 2012
Cain could get paid in a big way after this year too.
kinbote - February 7, 2012
I would bet Hamels does not get 100m
delias man - February 7, 2012
He is going to get $100 million
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
5/90 or 5/95 something like that
but not 100
delias man - February 7, 2012
lol
nolander - February 7, 2012
Not after his arm explodes.
David Young - February 7, 2012
the market for elite pitchers isn’t slowing down, and it’s gone up from Zito to Johan to CC to Halladay to Cliff Lee back to CC
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
Ned after Kershaw starts 1-3.
regfairfield - February 7, 2012
This is freaking awesome.
silverwidow - February 7, 2012
Well done.
But if Kershaw fails to cover home plate after a wild pitch, then we’re truly golden.
JonWeisman - February 7, 2012
Fun Greek Fact
Hesperia is Classical Greek for “evening”.
Maddz - February 7, 2012
Related Latin Fact
Hesperia means “western lands” in Latin.
Maddz - February 7, 2012
because the sun sets in the west?
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
That’s what I was thinking
Maddz - February 7, 2012
It’s all Greek to me.
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
I will now refer to the beach cities as the evening lands
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
I’m going to retire now to Chez Stephen in my beloved beach city. :)
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
Zhto Hellas!
Billyum - February 7, 2012
Inteesting
I assumed it was Classical Greek for “HellHole”
mleadman - February 7, 2012
No
thats what it means in English.
Interestingly enough, its the same definition as Mojave.
/usedtoliveinMojaveandcanconfirmthis
EMDarrow - February 7, 2012
Ned Colletti, King of the Two Year Deals.
fbihop - February 7, 2012
Coffey just demanded an extension!
kinbote - February 7, 2012
he has an option
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
Eric called it a thinly veiled deferred payment.
kinbote - February 7, 2012
true that
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
He never asks for a second cup at home
mleadman - February 7, 2012
That’s funny
kinbote - February 7, 2012
This, and the Clemenza comment in the last thread were gold.
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
Any reference to gold
Bania: Why do they call it Ovaltine?
The mug is round; the jar is round… they should call it Roundtine.
(pauses) That’s gold, Jerry! Gold!
bhsportsguy - February 7, 2012
Per Tony Jackson
Kershaw is deferring $2 million in this year’s salary to January 2013.
silverwidow - February 7, 2012
we where all waiting for it
nolander - February 7, 2012
$5MM this year makes me the winner!
But we all went over
Michael White - February 7, 2012
signing bonus of $0.5M + Salary of $7.5M – $2M deferred = $6M in 2012, doesn’t it?
David Young - February 7, 2012
Right
silverwidow - February 7, 2012
Right. Okay, so I ended up pretty close
Michael White - February 7, 2012
Tony Jackson called $8 million ‘well below’ the midpoint of $8.25 million, so you might be way off. :)
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
Good catch. Tamin getting props from Ned in that piece. A four-year deal wouldn’t have made much sense to me though.
kinbote - February 7, 2012
Four year discussions? That’s news…
silverwidow - February 7, 2012
Not sure what I’d think about that.
silverwidow - February 7, 2012
Bolding and typo mine. It’s really “best.”
kinbote - February 7, 2012
BREAKING: Clayton Kershaw signs 30-year, $666 million deal with Dodgers.
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
Kinbote just turned that upside down and signed himself to a $999 deal.
Humma Kavula - February 7, 2012
I feel like I’m being the reverse of trolled—and I’m loving it.
kinbote - February 7, 2012
BeastMode!
Billyum - February 7, 2012
$8M is 3% less than $8.25M. Tony Jackson didn’t major in math.
David Young - February 7, 2012
Bugs Bunny never studied law
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
Wild E. Coyote never studied medicine
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
Cecil Turtle never lost
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
Tweety never studied linguistics or optometry.
Humma Kavula - February 7, 2012
or first name knowledge/spelling :)
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
Wasn’t Wild the fat cousin to Wily?
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
Wile E.
Nolij - February 7, 2012
Phil Phailed Two!
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
You just compared yourself to the Astro’s, how does that feel?
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
better than comparing myself to USC basketball
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
Though he doesn’t have a degree to show for it, Foghorn Leghorn is an ACME-certified linguist.
ishXdavid - February 7, 2012
I am seeing veiled tweets that
there is not good news re Chauncy Billups coming out soon
bhsportsguy - February 7, 2012
Now seeing tweets
that the Clipper are considering JR Smith and more importantly, Billups is out for the season with a torn Achilles tendon. But nothing from Clippers as yet.
bhsportsguy - February 7, 2012
That sucks. I liked Chauncey a lot.
Sucks more for Chauncey than anything else really. If anywhere, the Clippers actually have depth at guard so the team can deal with this. Really a bummer for him though.
Michael White - February 7, 2012
And
it is now official, he might not be back until next season’s training camps start in September.
bhsportsguy - February 7, 2012
We have depth a point guard, shooting guard not so much. Foye can step in but Mo and Paul is one short set of guards.
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
True
Michael White - February 7, 2012
What are our external options assuming Josh Smith goes to NY?
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
Just go the other way...get even bigger
Derrick Caracter is available
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
Landry Fields is the Clipper blogs rumor of the day. Fields for Mo.
Which would be awesome.
Michael White - February 7, 2012
YCT…
Nolij - February 7, 2012
N/A. The Clippers definitely still want Mo. I think he only gets moved in the case of a perfect fit coming back on the other end….
Michael White - February 7, 2012
I haven’t seen the Knicks much, 2nd round pick, must have made quite an impression. 3 point% kind of blows. 6’7 is nice, I’m guessing he’s considered a top defender?
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
Defender, rebounder, effecient scorer. He’s like a WP superstar.
Michael White - February 7, 2012
I’m guessing he sucks in the 4th quarter compared to Billups. I’ve no doubt we can replace Chauncey’s game production but I doubt we can replace his balls.
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
We have this Chris Paul guy…
And clearly Blake Griffin has fixed his free throw approach as he owned the free throw line yesterday. WGT
Michael White - February 7, 2012
Realistically we were a stretch to be contenders this year, but having a playoff backcourt of Chauncey/Paul gave it a shot. We could end up with second best record in the West but our playoff hopes took a dump with Billups.
Not complaining, this season will still own but anyone who thinks this does not hurt is kidding themselves.
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
If the NBA went back to the tighter short-shorts, it would be easier to get the balls readings on these guys.
David Young - February 7, 2012
#nolosho
OK, I’m done
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
The Curse of the Clippers XXVI
Xeifrank - February 7, 2012
whatever
Michael White - February 7, 2012
Old guy gets hurt… Clippers curse!!!!
Michael White - February 7, 2012
Billups sacrificed himself onto the Clipper Curse to save the young ones.
uschris0304 - February 7, 2012
I knew you would say that!
Xeifrank - February 7, 2012
what is worse then a troll?
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
Chris Paul’s tender knees?
Xeifrank - February 7, 2012
engineers
nolander - February 7, 2012
GFY!
;-)
David Young - February 7, 2012
without engineers, where would the trolls live?
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
down by the river
nolander - February 7, 2012
in a van
nolander - February 7, 2012
as far as the general populace concerned we are in the same tent
GFM!
nolander - February 7, 2012
Tent rolls.
Nolij - February 7, 2012
Bobcats
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
A college-age girl that is clearly destined to be a cougar?
David Young - February 7, 2012
Resides in Charlotte.
Houston Trolls.
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
Los Angeles Cougars as the new football team?
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
/EverySportsTalkRadioHostEver
fbihop - February 7, 2012
oh my god that must hurt so much
Maddz - February 7, 2012
Total win for the Dodgers
Even if Kershaw has any thoughts or feelings about not being sufficiently appreciated by the Dodgers…new ownership is around the corner!
latenite - February 7, 2012
I would be surprised to hear any
such thing from that young man
bhsportsguy - February 7, 2012
This is great news!
A 5+ year deal would have been even better, but its good to have him locked in and happy for the next two.
BFDC - February 7, 2012
Billups is done
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
Likely taking my fantasy season with him. Between him and Ginobili, I am not looking so good right now.
Nolij - February 7, 2012
What do your league standings look like right now?
Xeifrank - February 7, 2012
I’m #6/12. Things were looking up with Paul being healthy, but it’s not looking good anymore.
Nolij - February 7, 2012
Ok, good luck.
Xeifrank - February 7, 2012
You had Chauncey Billups on your fantasy team?
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
Yes, and now I have to replace him with Luke Ridnour probably. Bleah.
Nolij - February 7, 2012
Mo Williams?
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
Taken. Some jackass cut him a couple of weeks ago.
Nolij - February 7, 2012
Josh Smith?
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
Its JR Smith, not Josh Smith, unless Clips are trying to trade for the Hawks forward.
uschris0304 - February 7, 2012
or Earl Smith the 3rd if you really wanna get technical
uschris0304 - February 7, 2012
Right, still reeling from Wily
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
According to Wins Produced ( a composite metric), Ridnour is having a considerably better year than Billups anyway.
Michael White - February 7, 2012
I have no doubt, but my league inexplicably doesn’t use that as a category.
Nolij - February 7, 2012
Of course, but the inputs of the metric are things like points, FG%, rebounds, assists, etc. Can’t be too far off from the categories you use.
Michael White - February 7, 2012
They are pretty similar actually. I didn’t realize how much better Luke is in FG%
Nolij - February 7, 2012
Ridnour has been getting his minutes too since MIN quickly realized that the two best players in their backcourt were him and Rubio so they are playing both as much as possible.
Michael White - February 7, 2012
I assumed Nolij was in a single-category fantasy league, and that category is free throw percentage.
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
I was definitely going to make that joke. Free throws made count for 50% of the fantasy points!
Michael White - February 7, 2012
Wasn’t Billups averaging 15 points and 4 assists
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
Yes, and that still prompts the question.
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
Yeah, I’m not as screwed as I thought, mostly it’s just annoying to have to get a different dude.
Nolij - February 7, 2012
I wonder if Kmart would still have gone to Clips even with this happening. Besides money, I thought maybe playing with Billups was a key reason he chose Clippers. Also felt JR Smith would go to Clips as well to reunite with his Nugget buds….he still may go now anyways because he would start at SG and play an even bigger role now I think.
uschris0304 - February 7, 2012
JR seems like a money guy and we can’t match the Knicks for money. We will find out soon enough.
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
FWIW, He is currently owned in 86% of Yahoo leagues. I think it was 89% when I dropped him and probably even higher yesterday.
Nolij - February 7, 2012
Payroll worksheet is updated. Don’t anticipate too many big changes between now and opening day.
Dodgers have 18 players under contract in 2012 for $85.975 million.
Dead money is $22,262,432
Remaining seven 25-man roster slots, plus one more for Rubby on the DL, at $3,925,000
Total: $112,162,432
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
If anyone was wondering (and I’m sure you were), the payroll worksheet has 7,561 words in the post.
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
Half of those are Adam Kennedy incentive details.
kinbote - February 7, 2012
MLS releases no contract information. It’s frustrating. There was a press release I saw earlier in the season where the Clippers didn’t release contract information, but I don’t think that’s for all contracts, this was that D-League guy.
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
Is there a salary cap in MLS? Is there a limit to how many out of country players you can sign?
uschris0304 - February 7, 2012
correct me if i’m wrong, but I believe there is a very low salary cap but each team is allowed to have two players who don’t count towards the cap.
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
yeah, im reading about it now… the designated player rule, nicknamed the Beckham rule.
uschris0304 - February 7, 2012
Landon Donovan was grandfathered in
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
Because of his receding hairline?
fbihop - February 7, 2012
Awesome
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
Rec'd
Damn, I knew there was a joke there.
David Young - February 7, 2012
I just did a dance around my room
yes there is a salary cap in MLS, teams are given a budget of $2.6 million. You’re allowed three designated players, who you can pay out of pocket and only count for 335k against the budget.
A team is given 8 international spots, which can be traded, so some teams have 7, some 9
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
can only trade 1?
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
you can trade them all if you like, just trying to illustrate that 8 isn’t a fixed number
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
thats why i asked
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
The vast majority of teams in the big three/four/five pro sports don’t release any contract info.
Some teams do, sometimes. But it is rare.
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
Blue Jays and White Sox come to mind as teams that include contract info in their press releases, but it is not all the time. I think the Phillies official Twitter account tweeted one of their relievers signed for $1.15 million last week or so.
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
so the Dodgers are a rare bird? Are most sportswriters then like MLS writers who depend of the players union to release contract info?
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
The Dodgers never release contract info, other than the length of the deal.
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
ah see, we don’t even get that in our releases, we don’t know who’s out of contract until they start tweeting about it.
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
is there a MLSPA?
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
yup, almost went on strike a few years back over the tiny tiny salaries
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
to answer your question though
they release salary numbers twice a year, but no contract lengths
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
On the Juninho and Leonardo press release, it was announced Juninho is on loan for 2012 and that Leonardo “joined the club permanently on a free transfer.”
The Leonardo part is what you are talking about? A free transfer could be of any length?
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
yes they can
delias man - February 7, 2012
free transfer refers to the nature of acquisition, same thing as free agent, but across international lines. But for him, for any rookies drafted, any MLS players signed, we don’t know when their contract ends unless their Press Conference level like Beckham, where you can ask right there
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
Interesting
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
Maybe
Nolij - February 7, 2012
Kit
David Young - February 7, 2012
and even with Beckham, we were told two year deal, and when we asked if that’s two solid years or one year with an option Leiweke essentially said “wouldn’t you like to know”
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
Follow up being “seriously, we’re gonna find out in a couple hours, just tel us”
regfairfield - February 7, 2012
(sotto voce) “smug motherfucker”
David Young - February 7, 2012
To your second question, yes. Either through the players union or agents or team sources
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
so Dylan Hernandez hears Kershaw got a two year contract, and he’s on the horn trying to get dollar figures. Must be cool to have the LA Times nane to burst doors open for you.
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
I think being from the Times gets your phone call answered. Being a good dude like Dylan gets your questions answered.
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
Being an asshole also gets your questions answered, i dont’ see a correlation.
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
There’s got to be no less than a dozen news reporters asking that question. I don’t tell Simers.
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
You also don’t happen to hold the gate keys
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
Fezzik, tear his arms off.
Nolij - February 7, 2012
Or wait a few hours until everyone is updated, the instant gratification of information that will not change if you know it now or five hours from now is fascinating.
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
“as first reported by” has kept Ken Rosenthal employed
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
Only because you all care, the question is why?
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
Because Eric has spreadsheets to update!
David Young - February 7, 2012
and because no one reads the fifth article about Kershaw’s contract, they read the first
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
What players make has been a fascination since professional sports started.
Even back 100 years ago, Walter Johnson wrote an article about how unfair the Reserve Clause and on the other extreme, you had the $100,000 infield in Philadelphia.
Money is always an interesting topic.
bhsportsguy - February 7, 2012
especially since there’s that financial investment if you’re a fan. Same with following local politics, or companies you own stock in, it’s a matter of “how’s my money being spent”
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
What do boxing and the Golden Girls have in common?
kinbote - February 7, 2012
Big purses. Goodnight everybody!
kinbote - February 7, 2012
Both are dead.
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
and I used to watch and enjoy both in the late 1980s and early 1990s.
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
I’m not questioning the thirst for knowledge I’m just questioning why everyone is so concerned that they have to have the info instantly since it is not a dynamic situation but a static one. Once the contract is signed nothing is going to change. Knowing before Bob knows because they have 4G instead of 3G is whack a doodle.
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
Not that they have to break every story, but part of the beat writers’ jobs is to be an insider and (a) provide news that nobody else yet has; and (b) establish themselves as a trusted source of information, in both directions
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
Yes, that has never changed. Just seems pointless to me in today’s world. Instead of leaks the information can be disseminated by the organizations in charge of the information by simply Tweeting to everyone who gives a crap (followers) when the information is final. No need for middle people.
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
why would those in charge willingly spread information beyond the most basic facts?
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
Whatever eventually gets leaked might as well be controlled by those in control. Then the leakers lose their leverage and have to get their noses out of someone ass and do something productive.
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
Agreed on most news but its understandable why a team wouldn’t release financial info, at least not officially.
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
and as long as there are people who want that info, as well as game analysis, then an industry has a role
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
Because we want to make the first snarky comments.
David Young - February 7, 2012
Apparently
Simers was having lunch with Coach VDN when VDN got the text about BIllups.
bhsportsguy - February 7, 2012
HA
I’ve never heard of him being referred to as something that sounds like it requires a visit to the clinic.
ishXdavid - February 7, 2012
Better than Billups getting the text about VDN, you’re saying?
Nolij - February 7, 2012
VD is serious business
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
The guy who was the beat writer for the giants has moved on to csn to cover them, but someone snatched up the new twitter handle he was going to use and is trolling giant fans
Baggs CSN @BaggsCSN
Billyum - February 7, 2012
Haha
Michael White - February 7, 2012
a) That is pretty funny
b) Baggarly moved? That must have been very recently; I think I linked to a piece of his from the San Jose Mercury News from this weekend in the Giants’ review.
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
Yeah apparently he is just in the process of moving right now
Billyum - February 7, 2012
I saw it announced and confirmed on twitter today.
David Young - February 7, 2012
Isn't that Andrew "I gave an MVP vote to Jeremy Affeldt" Baggarly?
Or was it a Cy Young vote. Either way.
Ivdown - February 8, 2012
So my twitter really blew up today
With the [politics redacted] news, Kershaw signing, the “baseball boyfriend” kerfuffle, Billups medical report, there have been tweets galore.
David Young - February 7, 2012
take all that, add in Juninho resigning with the LA Galaxy and you have my twitter-splosion.
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
twitter invested in a whole new warehouse of server space to be able to handle the Juninho news.
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
Were you able to catch ManU-Chelsea in the midst of all the SB madness? What a freaking game! I’ve watched it twice already on my DVR.
ishXdavid - February 7, 2012
well it happened seven hours before the SB : ) Yeah it was amazing, as a United fan I let out a cheer with Chicharito’s equalizer
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
What the hell happened to Chelsea? It seems like yesterday they were the Miami Heat of the EPL =X
ishXdavid - February 7, 2012
Well Drogba’s in Africa for the Cup of Nations, and Anelka left for China
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
I had an indoor soccer game on Sunday. I left at halftime when it was 1-0, and the indoor place had a small TV with the game on and I saw Chelsea go up 3-0 before my game started.
Then, after my game, I was informed that it was 3-3.
Missed a terrific game, apparently.
fbihop - February 7, 2012
insofar as any soccer game could be called “terrific”.
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
go collect your troll toll troll
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
Who cares about Chelsea. How did you team do?
Xeifrank - February 7, 2012
Lost 5-1. My coed team is pretty terrible, I’m pretty sure there are only two of us who have played more than a year or two of soccer.
I scored a nice goal and had a couple more I should have scored but I’m just too damn out of shape.
fbihop - February 7, 2012
twitter free since 1993
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
You’re a “baseball boyfriend”? WTF???
KellyStephen - February 7, 2012
Baseball boyfriend
link. There were a lot of hilarious tweets in my timeline bashing this.
David Young - February 7, 2012
Were they mostly of the “Vicente Padilla sure is unattractive kekekekeke” ilk?
Nolij - February 7, 2012
No, I said they were hilarious.
David Young - February 7, 2012
I know the
fangraphs interview with Logan White came up in an earlier comments section, but this bit about Nathan Eovaldi caught me eye:
David Young - February 7, 2012
Notice he did not let him talk to Andre
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
Dre can't know any prospect
It’s so they don’t get a big head
Tommy Blackjack - February 7, 2012 via iPhone app
I just hope he took the how to find a girlfriend advice from Bills, the how to walk an icy staircase advice from Loney, and the how to drive a sports car advice from Kemp.
David Young - February 7, 2012
He busy doing zumba at the time.
ishXdavid - February 7, 2012
NTTAWWT
David Young - February 7, 2012
What’s the TBLA equivalent of this situation?
silverwidow - February 7, 2012
Not Chad
mleadman - February 7, 2012
Meeting Vin in the press room? (I have not had the good fortune yet.) No, that is better than the above.
Being treated nicely by the beat writers?
David Young - February 7, 2012
Obviously lvdown getting the “man talk” at the one TBLA game I attended.
kinbote - February 7, 2012
Yes!
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
In a story that only Josie and Mike may like
bhsportsguy - February 7, 2012
neat! Apparently there’s a similar story with Katy Perry trying to meet Tom Brady after the Super Bowl loss
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
TJ Simers went with the Clippers on this road trip. I’m guessing it was the first time the Lakers and Clippers were on the road at the same time and Simers was assigned to the Clippers.
Billups was lost for the year.
I think we can clearly blame TJ for this.
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
So Sweet!!!
that is all now back to work…..
MammothDodger - February 7, 2012
Hey Nolander
The Texans picked up Karl Dorrell to be the new QB coach? Good luck!
ishXdavid - February 7, 2012
Did a pretty good job with Matt Moore last year
really, in general, he has done a great job as an assistant everywhere he has gone. If Kubiak thinks he is the right fit he probably is.
nolander - February 7, 2012
He was a pretty good WR coach in Denver
though that was a long time ago. Wasn’t the greatest HC at UCLA but as QB coach should be solid.
underdog - February 7, 2012
Here's a correlation for you
No QB who led the regular season yardage category has ever won the Super Bowl
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
I think part of that is because
when a QB is throwing that much, either its because the defense or running game are poor, and you are either having to air it out to catch up or stay in front of the other team, or because you can’t use your running game to run down the clock.
nolander - February 7, 2012
Apparently Maria Menuonos lost a Super Bowl bet
involving her wearing a Patriots colored biking in Times Square in winter temperatures.

David Young - February 7, 2012
Hot damn
Always thought was incredible looking.
silverwidow - February 7, 2012
technically its giants colored isn't it?
but the teams have the same colors anyways so who can tell.
nolander - February 7, 2012
It is a Giants bikini
She is a Pats fan (and Celtics fan).
If one were to find and watch video of this, one might see a small NY Giants logo on the left side of the left breast of the bikini. You know, if one were to Google such a thing and find a video of this.
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
Yes, I got confused for some reason and said it backwards
David Young - February 7, 2012
… and if one were to magnify the video 100×...
David Young - February 7, 2012
If one had a conference room projector in their office….
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
There are a lot of those in Chatsworth.
David Young - February 7, 2012
Weird. The combination of “number” “x” “period” with no spaces caused that x to be vertically centered.
100x
100×.
100×...
x.
5×.
David Young - February 7, 2012
as in 5×3=18 : )
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
Well
5×3 makes sense, by why with a period instead of a number following the x ?
David Young - February 7, 2012
because the magical elves that make my words appear don’t know the difference between 3×5 and 4×.
Though apparently 4x? won’t work or 4x!
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
Because if you were multiplying by a decimal, you might write 4×.5 for instance.
Nolij - February 7, 2012
Lame. I would always write the zero: 4×0.5
David Young - February 8, 2012
so that when I say Chris Paul is 10000x the LA sports figure Kobe Bryant is right now, my trolling doesn’t get confused with poor math.
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
thanks, Dave
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
just post the david beckham ad
or pictures of The Todd. Gotta go nuclear on this.
nolander - February 7, 2012
Yeah, why pander to the 99.9% when the .01% are so clearly left out of the loop.
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
Everybody’s pandering, pandering. Da da da da dada da.
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
Wasn’t she pandering by making the bet in the first place? No one insisted that her end of a bet involve flashing her bod, nor did she have to take that bet.
But yeah, I’m pandering to some of the commenters here.
David Young - February 7, 2012
If we want to get into the layer behind the layer, yes a hot woman wearing a bikini in New York in winter knows exactly what she’s doing
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
Of course.
David Young - February 7, 2012
But does she have a baseball boyfriend?
David Young - February 7, 2012
typical engineer
nolander - February 7, 2012
I don’t get it.
David Young - February 7, 2012
I'm just being stupidly passive aggressive
nolander - February 7, 2012
Fuck that
LET’S THROW HANDS!
David Young - February 7, 2012
x
nolander - February 7, 2012
What about the other .09%?
It had to be done.
Nolij - February 7, 2012
I’m having a hard time telling if she is cold or not
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
it was Times Square in winter, she was cold.
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
It was around 48-50 degrees
and sunny yesterday afternoon in mid-town Manhattan.
bhsportsguy - February 7, 2012
So she was cold.
David Young - February 7, 2012
For us
that seems cold, for middle of winter in NY, it probably feels okay.
bhsportsguy - February 7, 2012
Every time I go out in a bikini in Hesperia (i.e., Thursdays) in that weather, I am not that cold. But I weigh a tad more than Ms. Menuonos.
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
she had a big fluffy robe she wore between takes, and she was never on camera more than fifteen seconds. In the video. Which is on the internet.
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
Probably not while one is nearly nude.
David Young - February 7, 2012
I for one am glad she lost.
Because fuck the Patriots.
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
Doesn’t look that cold to me
mleadman - February 7, 2012
Tripon’d
David Young - February 7, 2012
I had to work
mleadman - February 7, 2012
She loses a bet, and we all win!
ishXdavid - February 7, 2012
Honestly we could do better by walking the beaches of Hermosa and randomly selecting 20 girls in about 20 minutes. JMO
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
It wouldn’t come with AC Slater.
regfairfield - February 7, 2012
Even better.
fbihop - February 7, 2012
Are you this guy
regfairfield - February 7, 2012
she is noticeably underweight
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
hater
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
i dunno
she’s pretty tiny
Maddz - February 7, 2012
I figure no obviously visible rib cage, no foul.
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
I can make out ribs 9-11, but I see your point
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
you know what i mean. when a woman, or man for that matter, is too skinny the first noticeable thing is a protruding rib cage. She’s thin, but she’s not nicole richie.
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
Josie never forgets
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
Back in 2008, Maria
gave interviews on how back in college (she is now 33) she was a size 14 (at 5 foot 8), she described her workout plan and diet and for the last several years has been reportedly a size 4 (I have no idea how female sizes work).
bhsportsguy - February 7, 2012
she’s not a 0, wouldn’t have thought she was, but 4 is model size. In The Devil Wears Prada, there’s a whole subplot about how Anne Hathaway’s character is a six, and that’s SO HUGE for someone in the fashion industry.
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
In college v Now
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
also
I’m 5’9, and a few sizes down from her college weight (will not say exact number)
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
Your hair is a size 14 though.
David Young - February 7, 2012
Don’t understand the fascination with skeletons.
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
As some comedian once said, sleeping with her would be like lying on a pile of coat hangers.
David Young - February 7, 2012
I imagine in real life w/out the camera “adding 10 pounds”, I would agree wholeheartedly.
David Young - February 7, 2012
Ned acknowledges Prince bidding
link
silverwidow - February 7, 2012
Yes
Good job Ned and Frank.
Xeifrank - February 7, 2012
Basically Ned is saying its all his fault
l
nolander - February 7, 2012
I know these things are not that important, but I’m really curious what the plan for Loney would’ve been. Traded? LF? LOOGY?
kinbote - February 7, 2012
Brewer 1st baseman
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
Tonight (tonight), let it be Loneybrau.
David Young - February 7, 2012
Gurnick
also mentions that a four year plus an option deal was discussed.
Now that’s something I would have liked. Probably would have approached nine figures.
silverwidow - February 7, 2012
not when Felix and Verlander signed for 5/80 and 5/78. Why would Kershaw have gotten 20% more than them?
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
Probably 10% more, which is “approaching” :)
silverwidow - February 7, 2012
In case you wanted to hear the 911 call from one of the cars James Loney hit in November, TMZ has it.
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
Funny part was when the lady first kept trying to dial 4-6-3.
Xeifrank - February 7, 2012
Funniest thing you may ever have posted
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
Easy rec or easiest rec?
David Young - February 7, 2012
then later 0118 999 881 999 119 7253
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
Kareem and
Zooey: (click on pic for full size in new tab/window)

David Young - February 7, 2012
I almost retweeted a picture this morning of Kareem at The View with some snarky comment, but ended up not doing it.
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
So is paying Kershaw 8 this year with two deferred and 10.5 next year any different than 6.5 this year and 12.5 next year? I can’t even think of luxury tax loopholes.
regfairfield - February 7, 2012
It is when “oh my God I don’t have any money right now”
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
Poorly phrased it. Why say 8/10 million with 2 differed instead of just 6/12.
regfairfield - February 7, 2012
Sets the salary standard for future arbs differently. I assume MLBPA likes the former.
David Young - February 7, 2012
Makes sense to me.
regfairfield - February 7, 2012
There are almost 4000
comments posted on this story
bhsportsguy - February 7, 2012
Josie Signal
Does Everton have a chance?
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
so glad HJ isn't here
they’re 11th in the league table, so not likely to finish in the top 6 which would get them a European tour. They’re still in the FA Cup, and they have Blackpool next so they’ll likely make it to the Quarterfinals, then it’s all on who you draw. They won’t be relegated, that’s for sure.
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
I cannot believe I missed the hashtag subthread. I would submit one here, but for the last four hours, I have been screamed at by a sick baby. Four goddam hours straight of screaming baby. I am ready to kill myself.
Humma Kavula - February 7, 2012
That situation is the worst. Been there – it is so stressful.
David Young - February 7, 2012
at least you learned your lesson the first time
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
Well, not exactly. We ended up with only one child. That was not our preference.
David Young - February 7, 2012
The bright side is that she is still sick and the daycare has a 24-hour-symptoms free policy, which means I get to do it again tomorrow.
/killsselfforcingBridetotakecareofneworphan
Humma Kavula - February 7, 2012
Is there enough gin?
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
worded poorly
not enough gin to kill you, but enough gin so that you make it through
G.Scott - February 7, 2012
the only word Humma associates with gin is
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Tommy Blackjack - February 7, 2012 via iPhone app
You are doing good work. Parenting demands everything yet gives few rewards. I hearby give you an internet pat on the back. (I’ve also been enjoying your Pale Fire comments directed at me.)
kinbote - February 7, 2012
We have kinda exhausted my knowledge of Pale Fire. Zembla reference, Shade reference, that’s all I got.
Wait, I’ve got one more. I just thought of it. It’ll appear upthread!
Humma Kavula - February 7, 2012
If it makes you feel any better (and I hope it doesn’t), my 2.5 year old just held the entire household hostage for an hour while he stalled going poop and my 6 year old & I spent a while today arguing over throwing trash away. To top it off, my wife and I appear to be some sort of cold war. Looks like I picked the wrong month to quit drinking.
kinbote - February 7, 2012
is there a right month?
nolander - February 7, 2012 via Android app
The only month to even attempt such a maneuver is February, what with its fewer days.
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
I’m on a 31 day health kick (ending with the first spring training game March 5th). Moderation sucks.
kinbote - February 7, 2012
You’re gonna get so wasted on March 5th.
fbihop - February 7, 2012
I’m going to need to. We suck this year :)
kinbote - February 7, 2012
Actually, in my deepest delirium, I fantasize about Ethier/Kemp/Loney/Rivera emerging as a solid middle of the lineup. I still worry about the #2 spot in the lineup and much much more.
kinbote - February 7, 2012
Are you sure you’re not drunk now?
fbihop - February 7, 2012
You probably shouldn’t have built that retaining wall in the back yard. I can still hear Mrs. Kinbote from here:
“Kinbote, tear down that wall!”
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
I specialize in stupid mini-snaps (usually an implosion linked with some small self-destructive gesture like kicking a barbeque or punching a door.) About five minutes ago I ripped my zip-up sweatshirt.
kinbote - February 7, 2012
Oh, I totally picked a fight with Bride last night. We had to set aside our private conflict, though, as we re-engaged our war against our children.
Humma Kavula - February 7, 2012
You should be more careful; she could just hammer you into the ground with her fist.
David Young - February 7, 2012
Litters are so useful, when the young meerkats give us trouble we just put them outside the burrow and let Mr. Hawk handle the situation. You only have to do that once per litter and they round into shape fairly quickly after that.
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
TBLA favorite Dave Cameron lists the top ten transactions of the offseason (Carlos Beltran is #1)
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-10-best-transactions-of-the-winter/
kinbote - February 7, 2012
*SIGH*
David Young - February 7, 2012
[rips kinbote’s sweatshirt]
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
give me a sleeve
I must wipe away my tears
Tommy Blackjack - February 7, 2012 via iPhone app
Nothing lasts forever, even cold November rain.
kinbote - February 7, 2012
Purple rain, purple rain
Josie Becker - February 7, 2012
one of the all-time greats
never meant to cause you any sorrow
never meant to cause you any pain
(that songs kills me every time)
kinbote - February 7, 2012
x
Humma Kavula - February 7, 2012
Speaking of Blake, what young actor will kill his wife 30 years from now, 10 years after they stopped being relevant in the industry?
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
Giovanni Ribisi
Nolij - February 7, 2012
Was Ellis number two?
Phil Gurnee - February 7, 2012
Oh he’s number two all right.
Humma Kavula - February 7, 2012
That is why the child is crying
Phil Gurnee - February 7, 2012
It’s her diaper, let her change it.
Humma Kavula - February 7, 2012
That’s what I told the social worker
Phil Gurnee - February 7, 2012
With the signing of Jamey Wright, Josh Bard, and Adam Kennedy, one has to wonder if any other crappy ex – Mariners think the Dodgers are the best place to land for work in 2012.
meercatjohn - February 7, 2012
Monta Ellis has 30 points at halftime against OKC tonight
Eric Stephen - February 7, 2012
Never watched Baseball IQ before just now
But it was pretty impressive watching the guy from the HOF name all 16 MVPs from the 1980s.
Humma Kavula - February 7, 2012
There weren’t 20 ?
David Young - February 8, 2012
Multiple winners like Schmidt and Murphy shorten the total number.
Eric Stephen - February 9, 2012
Jump on in Mr. Soon-Shiong!
http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-0208-dodgers-soon-shiong-20120208,0,2638355.story
underdog - February 7, 2012
in case anyone missed it, new post
http://www.truebluela.com/2012/2/8/2781754/colorado-rockies-2012-offseason-review-national-league-west
Eric Stephen - February 8, 2012
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